"the words" or "the intent"

[Sathyanarayana K]

Namaskarams!

If a mantra is chanted without correct pronunciation, will the effect depend on "the words" or "the intent" of the chanter?

[ken p]

God is not going to punish chanters if vedic mantras written in lengthy words are not pronounce properly. See how ISKCON chanters chant in Roman script! Sometimes people try to finish a prescribed Mantra in a hurry to please guru or Ista Deva.

[Sunder Hattangadi]

All one wants to know about Mantras:

http://www.dlshq.org/books/es69.pdf

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On Monday, July 17, 2017, 4:03:08 PM CDT, ken p <drk...@gmail.com> wrote:

God is not going to punish chanters if vedic mantras written in lengthy words are not pronounce properly. See how ISKCON chanters chant in Roman script! Sometimes people try to finish a prescribed Mantra in a hurry to please guru or Ista Deva.

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[KN.Ramesh]

It depends more on the intent not on the words...

few examples:

1) A pandit mocked at an illiterate chanting mara prabhu: from vishnu sahasranama and circambulating the trees ( in tamil mara means tree) When asked about the meaning he replied: Lord of trees. Pandit laughed at him and he corrected it saying it is not mara prabhu: but amara prabhu:.

Illiterate felt very sad that day. Immediately the pandit had a dream who asked you to correct him, the matter / dealing is between him & me... Who are you to interfere?

Bhaavam  & bhakti is very much important  rather than the words.

Hearsay is that  this story related  with pandit to be bhattatri & the illiterate as poonthanam.

2) when i say शुभं भूयात् in a normal way the meaning is same. When I stress ( out of jealousy, burning with anger inside) and say शुभं भूयात् , the meaning is just the opposite.The intent is different

3) http://knramesh.blogspot.in/2009/10/wrong-intonation-of-mantras.html

[Sathyanarayana K]

In reference to  website http://knramesh.blogspot.in/2009/10/wrong-intonation-of-mantras.html

Things have happened as per the words of Thvashta, not as per his intentions.

On Monday, 17 July 2017 20:11:56 UTC+5:30, Sathyanarayana K wrote:

[Viswanath Bandaru]

If bhakti in desired quantity exists, no specific mantra is required. It however is not practically possible to find such bhakti. If one has such bhakti, he/she would not have desires, and know that they will be taken care of.

If mantra is employed for a specific purpose, it will yield results, but needs correct method to be followed. The correct method, here, includes right pronunciation.

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[Nagaraj Paturi]

Logical.

[Irene Galstian]

This is true. As my teacher said, I won't solve all your problems, but then, you won't know what a problem is.

[KN.Ramesh]

"मूर्खो वदति विष्णाय विद्वान् वदति विष्णवे।
उभयोः सदृशं पुण्यं भावग्राही जनार्दनः।।

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