Which Ashtadhyayi shlok represents this highlighted Translation?

[ken p]

Sage Panini conceived fourteen very distinct sounds from God Shiv’s damru (small hand-drum which God Shiv holds in His hand) and created the entire Sanskrit grammar called Ashtadhyayi. 

http://www.thevedicfoundation.org/valuable_resources/Sanskrit-The_Mother_of_All_Languages_partII.htm

Please post the shlok.

[Sunder Hattangadi]

Shiv sutras originated from Shiva's Tandava dance.

 

नृत्तावसाने नटराजराजो ननाद ढक्कां नवपञ्चवारम्।

उद्धर्त्तुकामः सनकादिसिद्धादिनेतद्विमर्शे शिवसूत्रजालम्॥

 

( NṚattāvasāne naṭarājarājo nanāda ḍhakkā navapañcavāram. Uddharttukāmaḥ sanakādisiddhādinētadvimarśe śivasūtrajālam.)

 

At the end of His Cosmic Dance,

Shiva, the Lord of Dance,

with a view to bless the sages Sanaka and so on,

played on His Damaru fourteen times,

from which emerged the following fourteen Sutras,

popularly known as Shiva Sutras or Maheshwara Sutras.

nR^tta = dance

avasAna = end

naTarAja rAjaH = Lord of dance

nanAda = sounded

DakkAm = damaru

nava pancha = nine and five = fourteen

vAram = times

kAma = for the sake of / with the desire to

uddhartu = upliftment

sanakAdi = sanaka etc

siddhAn = sages

etat = this

jAlam = web (of)

 

also,

http://www.kamakoti.org/hindudharma/part7/chap2.htm

 

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[Nagaraj Paturi]

Ken P,

What you quoted is not a translation. So its source in Sanskrit can not be traced neither in Ashtadhyayi nor anywhere else.

Your highlighted sentence represents a legend. 

Sunder-ji's verse contains that legend. 

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BoS, MIT School of Vedic Sciences, Pune, Maharashtra

BoS, Chinmaya Vishwavidyapeeth, Veliyanad, Kerala

Former Senior Professor of Cultural Studies

 

FLAME School of Communication and FLAME School of  Liberal Education,

 

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[ken p]

Mr. Paturi,

Which shlok represents these divine sounds?

Those Divine sounds are:

[hnbhat]

The verse is found in नन्दिकेश्वरकाशिका which is available in Vikipedia

http://shiva.iiit.ac.in/SabdaSaarasvataSarvasvam/index.php/Vyakaran:Nandikeshvara_Kashika

It is a commentary only on the14  Maheshwara Sutras.

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[Sunder Hattangadi]

Some additional references:

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/bvparishat/o-uwmF_u3D4

Nandikesvara kasika- translation

Nandikesvara kasika- translation

[Advaita-l] maheshwara sUtrAs and shAkta vidya

[Advaita-l] maheshwara sUtrAs and shAkta vidya

On Thursday, October 5, 2017, 8:26:51 PM CDT, hnbhat <hnbh...@gmail.com> wrote:

The verse is found in nandikeshvarakaashikaa which is available in Vikipedia

[Nagaraj Paturi]

Sri Ken P,

Ashtaadhyaayee has no s'lokas in it. 

It is in the form of sutras. 

The portion quoted by you is also sutras only. 

You might have noticed that there is माहेश्वरासूत्राणि written on the top of what you quoted. 

You might have noticed that there are 14 different expressions listed under that title. 

What these expressions have is nothing but the phonemes of Sanskrit arranged into 14 groups. The phonemes are listed in a sequence in each of these sutras (briefest possible expressions/statements) as the last but one part. The last part of each of these sutras is not part of the intended list of phonemes. That last sound is just a code. 

 अ इ उ - ण् 

ऋ ऌ - क् 

ए ओ - ङ् 

and so on. 

Panini uses the code to further group the listed phonemes. For that he puts the first sound of a sutra followed by the code at the end of another sutra. 

For example, if you put अ followed by क् it forms into an expression अक्. This expression अक् indicates the group of phonemes अ इ उ and ऋ ऌ all put together. 

In the later portions of the book, when he gives sutras (briefest possible expressions/statements)  to describe a certain morphophenemic change , to list which phonemes change into which phonemes, he uses this kind of expressions like अक् . Thus, if he wants to say अ इ उ and ऋ ऌ respectively result through the morphophenemic change described in the sutra, he just says 'अक् results' in stead of saying 'अ इ उ and ऋ ऌ results'. 

This technique is called pratyaahaara. 

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Now, the question of why these sutras are being called 'divine' sounds?

Two reasons:

1. Those who studied the book Ashtadhyayi develop a great admiration for this amazing technique and use the expression 'divine' to express the admiration. 

2. When these 14 sutras are read out, the resulting sound is close to that of a damaru. This is how the legend that the sutras were discovered by Panini by hearing Maheswara's damaru came into existence. Since they are believed to be heard from a divine source, they are called 'divine'.  

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Where are these 'divine sounds' i.e., the 14 sutras found?

In the beginning of Ashtadhyayi. 

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[ken p]

Thanks to all.

May be these Damaru's divine sounds may inspire us to write vernacular languages in Naagari script! 

[Pramod Kulkarni]

Also in pANiniiya shikshA, I think

On 06-Oct-2017 6:56 AM, "hnbhat" <hnbh...@gmail.com> wrote:

The verse is found in नन्दिकेश्वरकाशिका which is available in Vikipedia

http://shiva.iiit.ac.in/SabdaSaarasvataSarvasvam/index.php/Vyakaran:Nandikeshvara_Kashika

It is a commentary only on the14  Maheshwara Sutras.

On 6 October 2017, at 02:26, ken p <drk...@gmail.com> wrote:

Mr. Paturi,

Which shlok represents these divine sounds?

Those Divine sounds are:

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