Notebook file system oddities

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Theron Hitchman

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Jun 13, 2012, 8:30:06 PM6/13/12
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I have noticed a few oddities about the file system for the Sage Notebook. It is possible that these are "features" not bugs, but perhaps some small changes would make the end of semester cleaning process easier for instructors.

1) I would like it to be possible to "unfollow" a worksheet that has been shared with me. That is, I am not the owner, only a collaborator on worksheets created by my students. The semester is over and I no longer want to have that in my home list of active worksheets. There seems to no way to get rid of these, now.

2) Is it possible when a published worksheet is being deleted to have the notebook server ask if you also want the worksheet removed from the list of published worksheets? Right now, you have to remember to unpublish first, one at a time, then you can delete.

2b) while we are at it, could there be a "batch unpublish"

3) In general unpublishing can be tricky. right now, i think the "automatically republish when changes are made" checkbox is causing trouble. It seems that unpublishing a worksheet counts as a "change", so the worksheet is immediately republished. One has to first uncheck that box and save, then unpublish.

4) It seems that I cannot completely delete a worksheet that I shared with a student. When I tried to (2-step, fully) delete such a shared worksheet, it remained in my trash folder but with the student now listed as owner and my username removed. I then no longer had permission to work with the file, but it stayed in my trash.

Has anybody else dealt with these issues and found ways around them?

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kcrisman

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Jun 13, 2012, 9:14:16 PM6/13/12
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Wow, TJ, that is a VERY well-thought-out list of practical issues with the current notebook from a pedagogy perspective.  I wouldn't be surprised if you are the first person to have even noticed all of these and let a list know.

Maybe some of them would be easy for the notebook days folks to fix - at least the "Unpublish" ones.  # 3 in particular is a *slaps forehead* issue.

Jason or others, thoughts?  Maybe TJ should open a bunch of issues at the sagenb site...

- kcrisman

kcrisman

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Jun 13, 2012, 10:01:51 PM6/13/12
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On Wednesday, June 13, 2012 9:14:16 PM UTC-4, kcrisman wrote:


On Wednesday, June 13, 2012 8:30:06 PM UTC-4, TJ wrote:
I have noticed a few oddities about the file system for the Sage Notebook. It is possible that these are "features" not bugs, but perhaps some small changes would make the end of semester cleaning process easier for instructors.

1) I would like it to be possible to "unfollow" a worksheet that has been shared with me. That is, I am not the owner, only a collaborator on worksheets created by my students. The semester is over and I no longer want to have that in my home list of active worksheets. There seems to no way to get rid of these, now.

2) Is it possible when a published worksheet is being deleted to have the notebook server ask if you also want the worksheet removed from the list of published worksheets? Right now, you have to remember to unpublish first, one at a time, then you can delete.

2b) while we are at it, could there be a "batch unpublish"

3) In general unpublishing can be tricky. right now, i think the "automatically republish when changes are made" checkbox is causing trouble. It seems that unpublishing a worksheet counts as a "change", so the worksheet is immediately republished. One has to first uncheck that box and save, then unpublish.

4) It seems that I cannot completely delete a worksheet that I shared with a student. When I tried to (2-step, fully) delete such a shared worksheet, it remained in my trash folder but with the student now listed as owner and my username removed. I then no longer had permission to work with the file, but it stayed in my trash.



5) It seems that if I try to archive a worksheet that was shared by someone else with me, I can't do so.  It just stays in "active" - whether it was published or not.

Keshav Kini

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Jun 13, 2012, 11:34:23 PM6/13/12
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kcrisman <kcri...@gmail.com> writes:
> Wow, TJ, that is a VERY well-thought-out list of practical issues with the
> current notebook from a pedagogy perspective. I wouldn't be surprised if you
> are the first person to have even noticed all of these and let a list know.
>
> Maybe some of them would be easy for the notebook days folks to fix - at least
> the "Unpublish" ones. # 3 in particular is a *slaps forehead* issue.
>
> Jason or others, thoughts? Maybe TJ should open a bunch of issues at the
> sagenb site...

Just for the record, TJ is an Edu Days attendee and I think several of
us have seen his list. Thanks for writing them all out on sage-edu, TJ -
I've bookmarked this post :)

-Keshav

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