The "code of conduct" is getting out of hand - please stop for 2 weeks.

[Dr. David Kirkby (Kirkby Microwave Ltd)]

Discussions on this are not going in a positive direction. The tone of
the discussions is far worst than anything I have seen on here in a
long time.

I think it would be best if everyone stopped discussing it for a
couple of weeks, and revisited it later (I propose Monday the 15th
December).

Maybe if people stop for a while, it will cool the discussions, and
perhaps they can more forward in a positive direction. Since at the
minute, the whole thing is getting quite nasty.

Dave

[John Cremona]

On 29 November 2014 at 11:58, Dr. David Kirkby (Kirkby Microwave Ltd)

<drki...@kirkbymicrowave.co.uk> wrote:
> Discussions on this are not going in a positive direction. The tone of
> the discussions is far worst than anything I have seen on here in a
> long time.

I entirely agree. This has been worse than anything which has been on
Sage-devel since I joined it in 2007. I have just downgraded to daily
email summaries. Anyone new considering to contribute to Sage who
read the content of sage-devel over the last 2 weeks would surely run
a mile.

John

>
> I think it would be best if everyone stopped discussing it for a
> couple of weeks, and revisited it later (I propose Monday the 15th
> December).
>
> Maybe if people stop for a while, it will cool the discussions, and
> perhaps they can more forward in a positive direction. Since at the
> minute, the whole thing is getting quite nasty.
>
> Dave
>

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[Simon King]

Hi David, hi John,

On 2014-11-29, John Cremona <john.c...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 29 November 2014 at 11:58, Dr. David Kirkby (Kirkby Microwave Ltd)
><drki...@kirkbymicrowave.co.uk> wrote:
>> Discussions on this are not going in a positive direction. The tone of
>> the discussions is far worst than anything I have seen on here in a
>> long time.
>
> I entirely agree. This has been worse than anything which has been on
> Sage-devel since I joined it in 2007.

I agree too (even though I guess I was one of the people keeping the
discussion running). I planned to not reply to any post till Monday
(making an exception now), thinking the whole thing was the worst happening
to Sage since William suggested to rewrite Sage in lisp (which fortunately
happened on April 1st).

See you not before Monday,
Simon

[Thierry]

Hi,

+1

Thanks for this proposition, i definitely agree with that (though i was
part of the mess), and i will not post on this subject on sage-devel for
the next two weeks. Mailing-list (which require quick response) seems not
the appropriate format to discuss such issues.

Ciao,
Thierry

[Jason Grout]

+1. While I've been reading the whole discussion, I've stayed out of it
because of the direction, emotion, and tone of it. I think this is the
first suggestion I wholeheartedly vote +1 on.

Thanks,

Jason

[maldun]

+1

As already said in an other thread: I don't understand this high waves of emotion, and I don't think it is healthy

for the community

[Tom Boothby]

The irony of this is staggering, if not surprising. +1

[Robert Dodier]

On 2014-11-29, Tom Boothby <tomas....@gmail.com> wrote:

> The irony of this is staggering, if not surprising. +1

"Gentlemen! You can't fight in here -- this is the War Room."

quotably,

Robert Dodier

[Nicolas M. Thiery]

On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 12:20:25PM +0000, John Cremona wrote:
> I entirely agree. This has been worse than anything which has been on
> Sage-devel since I joined it in 2007.

Well, I have witnessed what felt far worst. In particular when
comparing the level of emotion to the actual difficulty of what was
under discussion. I mean, there was real non trivial matter to discuss
here, and the discussion felt healthy to me in the sense that I
learned a lot about others feelings and needs on the matter. The only
thing is that this used up (wasted?) a lot of good developer time.
Well, maybe that's just because I was more involved in other
discussions.

Anyway, shutting up for a couple days can't harm. Will do!

Nicolas
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