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[Ganesh J. Acharya]

Finding methods on making our life sinless. Please don't think about
less sin, need to find ideas where there will be NO-SIN. We can all
make this universe a Harmless, Happy to live abode. Don't worry even
if it sounds next to impossible. Just let know about it. There was a
day when we felt reaching the moon was impossible. But we made it.
Everything lies in a hope. Even if we cannot live in such a world,
lets make one for our future generation.

Definition of SIN: Something that harms others even for the slightest.

To start with... the follow thoughts come in the mind.
1. We should be able to eat food without having to kill another life.
2. Everyone should be able to live anywhere in the infinite universe.
Thus the fear of over populating should go away.
3. There should be no weapons in the entire universe.

Please help expand this list.

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When action harms ourselves is it sin or not?

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When an action harms us it is a SIN.

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Please correct if wrong:-
=================
When an action harms us it is a SIN. We need to try and find an action
that does not harm ourselves as well. Because if we act unjustified to
ourselves we might think, the same is justified with others. Then we
might act the same with others and collect a SIN.

On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 7:16 AM, Dr Chaya M.S. <cha...@hotmail.com> wrote:

[Ganesh J. Acharya]

Please correct if wrong:-
=================

1. When an action harms us it is a SIN. We need to try and find an action

that does not harm ourselves as well. Because if we act unjustified to
ourselves we might think, the same is justified with others. Then we
might act the same with others and collect a SIN.

2. When we say it is harming ourselves, then others watching us
harming ourselves might think it is justified and might follow that
trait. Then those wrong learned people might harm others. The person
who harms oneself might collect an indirect SIN as well.

From no angle it looks to me harming ourselves is appropriate.

On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 7:16 AM, Dr Chaya M.S. <cha...@hotmail.com> wrote:

[Dr D Bharadwaj]

Depends on what you mean by 'sin' in your mind.

Sin is word. A word that has different meaning for different people. 

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[Ganesh J. Acharya]

Sir, I think Sin word is very simple. It just means "to do wrong" "to harm others" "not to try appropriate"... in very simple terms "overriding the inner call", "our heart pains" but we overlook it. But, our subconscious does register these... when we are in a grave pain we recollect all these.

We may have 2 ways... 1. The right 2. The wrong

But because it is tougher to go by the right way to accept "the wrong" way is a sin.

It is alright to accept the wrong way when a problem comes at a survival point, but then not trying after the matter of survival into question ceases would also be a sin.

E.g. I might be passing by an accident, by not trying to save the people is a SIN. Here it is a lack of intent due to fear. (Mostly this is where lot of people stop)

Tomorrow we might be in the accident and might see others passing by the same way.

May be I am wrong, please correct.

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Getting rid of Malaria mosquitoes, using pesticides to remove cockroaches from living areas - are these sin too?

Sometime back in the temple of SriRangam, there are literally thousands of cockroaches in the Garba Griha. The priests considered them as "Lakshmi Poochi" (Lakshmi Insect) as it is in so love with the deity.... Nobody was able to enter the Garbha Griha at all.. it was stinking and cockroaches were flying everywhere...

Then sanity prevailed in the guise of wise Guru, who told even if you kill the cockroach its only going to SriVaikuntam :)... They got rid of all cockroaches and now the Garbha Griha is clean. 

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On Tuesday, July 3, 2012 10:39:52 AM UTC+5:30, Srikanth wrote:

Getting rid of Malaria mosquitoes, using pesticides to remove cockroaches from living areas - are these sin too?

Sir, our problem is "Malaria", "itching" and its "bite". Not mosquitoes. We are trying to use the method of annihilation for so many years, did we at-least attempt other wiser methods? Did we think in that direction?

Can you should me one research paper or even at attempt? I agree "Malaria", "itching" and its "bite" are a problem.

[Ganesh J. Acharya]

"It was stinking and cockroaches were flying everywhere...

Sir, its is stink for us, not for the cockroaches. 

We too may be stinking for the cockroaches? We too are pests and parasites for them. Should we continue to be pests and parasites?

[Ganesh J. Acharya]

We need to invent an Injection that does not pain. Need to learn the
way to talk that does not hurt. Don't know about words, but Mosquito
has such and injection at-least.

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We need to invent an Injection that does not pain. Need to learn the
way to talk that does not hurt. Don't know about words, but Mosquito

has such an injection at-least.
(We don't realize when it bites but it itches later)

On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 12:24 PM, Ganesh J. Acharya

[Ganesh J. Acharya]

If you say manufacturing such an Injection will be a very costly affair.

So many mosquitoes come Free of COST. So, obviously we still don't
know many things.

On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 12:25 PM, Ganesh J. Acharya

[Ganesh J. Acharya]

On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 12:32 PM, Ganesh J. Acharya

<ganeshj...@gmail.com> wrote:
> If you say manufacturing such an Injection will be a very costly affair.
>
> So many mosquitoes come Free of COST. So, obviously we still don't
> know many things.
>
> On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 12:25 PM, Ganesh J. Acharya
> <ganeshj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> We need to invent an Injection that does not pain. Need to learn the
>> way to talk that does not hurt. Don't know about words, but Mosquito
>> has such an injection at-least.
>> (We don't realize when it bites but it itches later)
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 12:24 PM, Ganesh J. Acharya
>> <ganeshj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> We need to invent an Injection that does not pain. Need to learn the
>>> way to talk that does not hurt. Don't know about words, but Mosquito
>>> has such and injection at-least.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 11:09 AM, Ganesh J. Acharya
>>> <ganeshj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> "It was stinking and cockroaches were flying everywhere...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sir, its is stink for us, not for the cockroaches.
>>>>
>>>> We too may be stinking for the cockroaches? We too are pests and parasites
>>>> for them. Should we continue to be pests and parasites?

While I was doing this exercise to identify the SINLESS way of living.
I think I successfully identified souls with the longest life. The
reason beyond any doubt, their ethical behavior and their living
answers most questions I was looking for.

The trees live on non-living matter, they don't trouble anyone. They
in their entire life just keep ****giving away****

Prometheus tree's Life = 4,844 years
Methuselah tree's life = 4843 year and still alive.

Pando also known as The Trembling Giant = estimated 80,000 years old
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_oldest_trees

It looks like there's lots to learn from them.

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[Ganesh J. Acharya]

Dear Gopi Krishna Paritala ji,

If I have gone wrong please help identify. From your comment it looks
like I did not rediscover anything new.

On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 3:53 PM, Gopi Krishna Paritala
<paritalag...@gmail.com> wrote:

[Gopalakrishnan]

 

When we are doing something, we can ask ourselves whether our God (who ever it may be) will like to see what we are doing (or what we are not) for that scenario. If the honest answer is yes, then what we are doing may not be a sin.

 

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Gopal, that's a good, easy, simple and unfailing check!!! 

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Sir, I agree what you is correct. Sir, just eager to know what does your GOD say about committing sin to ourselves?

[Ganesh J. Acharya]

Sir, I agree what you say is correct. Sir, just eager to know what does your GOD say about committing sin to ourselves?

GOD can come up with any definition and make that correct... GOD IS GOD.... I will be obliged to see a newer perception from you.

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GOD has his own version of what is sin for him and what not :)

 

And for human beings like us, he has created the Shastras. That is the first place to go - A Sin is something when we don't do what shatras says us to do; or do what the shastras say not to do.

 

Obviously, it may be difficult for many people (including me!) as we may not have the knowledge of them.

 

The next to look is to what our forefathers did (all elders may not be forefathers, only those who has set an example by his/her conduct are forefathers to me - To say it in Tamil, "Munnor" is different from "Muthiyavar".)

 

If that is not possible, just think what our mother did to us. Or what a mother is doing to her child (could be neighbours for example).

 

We can get answers from our inner-selves, but it depends upon how much tuned towards bhakti is that innerself is. For bhakti/spirtuality is the one which will give us clear answers to difficult situations. To always get honest answers, the innerself should always play the neutral role.

 

Warm Regards,
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[Ganesh J. Acharya]

Dear Sir,

I agree. I prostrate to the GOD in you. Thanks for the valuable explanation.

[Dr D Bharadwaj]

Ganesh,

Tell me, if this definition of sin is from a particular date in life due experience or whatever, whatever whatever other reason, logically speaking can the definition not change and get updated with the dawn of more or better wisdom?? Yes or no??

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Yes they can but they tend to keep moving towards perfection until there is 0 SIN. (My own definition)

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Thanks for making me realize this.

Now I understood why and how etc... it is not a SIN for the LION, TIGER etc, because they are not aware what they are doing is sin.

But, the question now, to the one who has realized what is sin... what should be their duty on seeing what the LION and TIGER are doing?

[Dr D Bharadwaj]

Therefore should you not wait for the total understanding of sin with each passing day and experience before you decide to plunge into sinless life???

Anything that changes is an anitya vastu - for example your own definition of sin. Ignore and take lightly whatever is anitya, Nityaaniyta vastu differentiation is viveka. 

Ignore sin. don;t waste the precious time of your limited life-energies on useless discussions on anitya vastus. Concentrate on the Feet of the Lord of the Lord, a nitya vastu - make your life dhanya. Strike a fresh new path.

[Ganesh J. Acharya]

Dear Sir,

I prostrate to the GOD in you. Thanks for taking pains on explaining. I really don't have any answers to your questions as of now. I think I have seen my limits.

On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 9:49 PM, Dr D Bharadwaj <dr.d.bh...@gmail.com> wrote:

Therefore should you not wait for the total understanding of sin with each passing day and experience before you decide to plunge into sinless life???

Anything that changes is an anitya vastu - for example your own definition of sin. Ignore and take lightly whatever is anitya, Nityaaniyta vastu differentiation is viveka. 

Ignore sin. don;t waste the precious time of your limited life-energies on useless discussions on anitya vastus. Concentrate on the Feet of the Lord of the Lord, a nitya vastu - make your life dhanya. Strike a fresh new path.

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sarvE santu nirAmayAH |

sarvE bhadrAni paSyantu | 

mA kaschit duHkha bhAg bhavEt || 

Sincerely,

On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 9:41 PM, Ganesh J. Acharya <ganeshj...@gmail.com> wrote:

Yes they can but they tend to keep moving towards perfection until there is 0 SIN. (My own definition)

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But it is also my duty to continue fixing things unless I know everything. So, I will try teaching people to fix quitting SINNED food habit. Until I know why I should not.

But again, I sincerely apologize to everyone who I called SINNERS 

[Aishwarya Vijayanand]

Dear Dr!

Do we read the message as "the guilt lies in the way we define sin in our mind"? Please clarify 

Pranams!

Aishwarya

[Ravi Lakshmipathy]

Dear Dr,

  Thanks for these wonderful lines of Wisdom.

    Ignore sin. don't waste the precious time of your limited life-energies on useless discussions on anitya vastus. Concentrate on the Feet of the Lord of the Lord, a nitya vastu - make your life dhanya. Strike a fresh new path.

 The Mind which made to do a sinful act at one point in life ... ( may or may not know it's a sin in that stage of life) and the same mind repents for the sinful action at a later time and takes into deep guilt / depression and rest of the life becomes miserable ....

 Instead of analyzing our actions as sinful or not .. wise thing is to focus on the Feet of the Lord and start a fresh new life ... what a simple and wonderful input Dr. Thanks very much.

With Love and Gratitude,
Ravi

[Aishwarya Vijayanand]

Dear Dr!

Do we read the message as "the guilt lies in the way we define sin in our mind"? Please clarify 

Pranams!

Aishwarya

[Ravishankar Gopal]

Radhe Krishna All, There is been many interactions to the subject of high importance and we are bound to understand which is the very reason for our existence and hence thought to share what our swamiji means to this subject... Every man has not sprung up all on a sudden as a man. The soul, right from the very first ushering into the world, continues to undergo the cycle of births and deaths not in tens, hundreds or thousands, but in lakhs. We actually carry the vasanas right from its very first birth up to the birth current, i.e., under enjoyment. The unenjoyed or residual karmas continue till they are completely fried in toto by Atma Jnana. The very forgetfulness of death by us, though we see countless deaths daily, indicates the nescience that has developed in us to avoid seeing the face of Truth. A day will certainly dawn in the life of every individual on this earth, not necessarily in this very birth itself, when whereby some rare merit, through Satsang with Mahatmas, devotion to Guru, or God's grace, tune in to the Ultimate by gradual evolution. The sinful deeds which we have committed are mainly due to our ignorance. When ignorance vanishes once and for all by performance of good and selfless deeds, Japa, etc., or by Guru's grace, the final goal ever remains in view and we shall reach the shore of eternal bliss........ Radhe Krishna Hare Rama Hare Rama Rama Rama Hare Hare Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Krishna Krishna Hare Hare ----------------------------- http://namadwaar.org/home.php -----------------------------

[Ganesh J. Acharya]

Dear Wise Soul,

Seeking Explanation.

I killed those "Bathroom Flies" out of a hypnotic effect which unfolded to me during my sleep the day before yesterday. There were TOY GUNs those are out in the Market were all around. The TV serials were constantly teaching us children how to AIM Arrows at objects. We children were fascinated at those objects we started hitting Targets. I hit objects irrespective of they been HUMANS, Bathroom Flies, or Frogs.  I did not know death, nor the pain of separation from family members of others, nor what was physical pain.

But there were *possible* divine interventions which I possibly ignored those times. 

But, those incidents are crystal clear today.

==================================================

When I started killing "Bathroom flies" my younger brother came and started scolding me to stop it. I told him the bathroom flies will infest disease so they are better killed.

When I started hitting "Frogs" inside a well, elderly people all passing by us children shouted at us who were throwing stones on the Frogs. I did not stop hearing those voices, then but I saw those frogs getting dead. I felt very bad only after that, I never passed by that well later.

==================================================

Why do I now these incidents in my life so crystal clear while there are so many other memories to remember??? These for years were not even known to me. But with time they unfolded making me repent though I was not entirely at fault. The environment around me was making me do things.?

[Dr D Bharadwaj]

My dear Ganesh,

You wanted to know "Why do I now these incidents in my life so crystal clear while there are so many other memories to remember???"

May i know why is it that you want to know "why do you now these incidents in your life so crystal clear while there are so many other memories to remember???"??????

[Ganesh J. Acharya]

Since, I do not still have a logical explanation if I "stop or continue" what I just started "NEED HELP trying a small exercise"

At one end my Karma started this "NEED HELP trying a small exercise", at other end you asked me questions those are impossible to answer at this moment. I do not know the answer to those questions well.

Why not to arouse the knowledge of precise definition of SIN in everybody so they stop committing them? Wasn't ignorance responsible for what I did?

[Ganesh J. Acharya]

Is it a duty to stop other accidents? Tough I very well now know very little help trying. But, in my learning there were many wise people who explained me, they told me what was wrong and why it was wrong.

Only then I started realizing the precise definition. Had they all kept quiet why would I realized it?

[Dr D Bharadwaj]

Ganesh,

"Why" is an mind's question for academic/research purposes. What and How are the questions of a practical mind. 

If we are not academicians and researches,( i.e., if we are not dealing with a problem on hand to solve) then

'why' is fine. 

If you are looking for a relief from a problem then 'why' an idle question - a waste of time. Look rather for what and how. instead. Our Sastras are full of various answers for what and how.

As of now ignore others. Take care of yourself.

Swayam Theerna Param Taarayati.  

[Ganesh J. Acharya]

Is it a duty to stop other accidents? I very well now know "After your explanation" and "Things unfolding during sleep" it will be of very little help trying to explain and investing energies as well. But, in my learning there were many wise people who explained me, they told me what was wrong and why it was wrong.

Only then I started realizing the precise definition. Had they all kept quiet why would I have realized it?

[Dr D Bharadwaj]

It is not because of those wise men. It is because of God, God, God, God, God.........from the beginning to the end.

Bhagavadarpanamastu

[Ganesh J. Acharya]

Dear Sir, 

Thankyou. Many thanks to the GOD in you and for all the efforts into HELPING me realize.

On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 8:50 AM, Dr D Bharadwaj <dr.d.bh...@gmail.com> wrote:

Only then I started realizing the precise definition. Had they all kept quiet why would I realized it?

Yes, of course. You would anyway have learnt as it was God's will. 

No human being carrying his identity with/as the body that is malamootramaya and anitya can be considered/acknowledged to be 'doing' anything worthwhile. It is the Divine that is actually 'doing'. 

Acknowledge this wholeheartedly. All duhkha will cease. 

All the best. Lets close it here.

  

Bhagavan Sree Ramanapaadakamalaarpanamastu

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sarvE santu nirAmayAH |

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Only then I started realizing the precise definition. Had they all kept quiet why would I realized it?

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[Ganesh J. Acharya]

Yes Sir, but they all tried and today you tried. So, it helped. BUT then GOD made them happen beyond any doubt. :)

[Dr D Bharadwaj]

"Beyond any doubt"  is the Truth. Sweet truth. 

[Dr D Bharadwaj]

Only then I started realizing the precise definition. Had they all kept quiet why would I realized it?

Yes, of course. You would anyway have learnt as it was God's will. 

No human being carrying his identity with/as the body that is malamootramaya and anitya can be considered/acknowledged to be 'doing' anything worthwhile. It is the Divine that is actually 'doing'. 

Acknowledge this wholeheartedly. All duhkha will cease. 

All the best. Lets close it here.

  

Bhagavan Sree Ramanapaadakamalaarpanamastu

[Dr D Bharadwaj]

Dear Sri Ravishankar Gopal,

This is a great message.

Thank you.

శ్రీరమణార్పణమస్తు 

Dr. D. Bharadwaj

http://drdbharadwaj.blogspot.in

Na guror adhikam thathwam, na guror adhikam thapaH,

Na guror adhikam jnanam, thasmai sri gurave namaH

sarvE bhavantu sukhinaH | 

sarvE santu nirAmayAH |

sarvE bhadrAni paSyantu | 

mA kaschit duHkha bhAg bhavEt || 

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