COVID 19 update

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Joseph Huang

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Mar 13, 2020, 10:57:03 AM3/13/20
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Due to the COVID 19 pandemic, I will no longer call the game on.

If someone else wants to call the game on or have a head count, that's fine with me, but please include full location name (like Welsh park or Rock Terrace elementary) for new players.
To avoid a past issue, if you are running a headcount please do not call the game off unless it is 3 hours or less before the game time to give people time to respond.

Stay safe,
Joseph

Marc Sorini

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Mar 13, 2020, 11:04:51 AM3/13/20
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I personally would accept the risk and enjoy a game.

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Katie Schwarz

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Mar 13, 2020, 11:07:25 AM3/13/20
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It's been fun.  See everyone in awhile, once this clears up

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michael sewell

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Mar 13, 2020, 11:17:43 AM3/13/20
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Yeah I feel like joes lawyer advised him to write that last email 

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hasan dossal

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Mar 13, 2020, 11:47:04 AM3/13/20
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I plan on playing Saturday.  

Hasan

Marc Sorini

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Mar 13, 2020, 11:48:14 AM3/13/20
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William Davis

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Mar 13, 2020, 12:13:42 PM3/13/20
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samey
will be there

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Subject: Re: [RUlti] COVID 19 update
 

Dylan Brown

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Mar 13, 2020, 12:44:54 PM3/13/20
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Hi all,

New to the group and very much looking to play and maybe bring a friend or two.  Is this for the park by the rockville metro on Saturday?  10ish?

Thanks!

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Charles Yu

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Mar 13, 2020, 1:12:52 PM3/13/20
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Sorta? It’s a mile and a half or so to the metro from where we normally play.

Welsh Park (upper is at the pin, lower is south across the lot)

Will

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Mar 13, 2020, 2:09:54 PM3/13/20
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Not to be a party pooper (I want to play too), but just so people are aware from a Public Health standpoint:


"Those experiments found that at least some coronavirus can potentially remain viable — capable of infecting a person — for up to 24 hours on cardboard and up to three days on plastic and stainless steel.  When aerosolized into fine, floating particles, the virus remained viable for three hours. On a copper surface, it was four hours, the study found. The median length of viability for the virus on stainless steel was 13 hours, and 16 hours on polypropylene, a common type of plastic."

Be safe out in public and sanitize, sanitize, sanitize!

John Vetrano

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Mar 13, 2020, 3:47:11 PM3/13/20
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A good excuse to wear those Friction Gloves!

Cheers,
JV

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Charles Yu

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Mar 13, 2020, 4:10:25 PM3/13/20
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Gloves don’t help.

Montgomery County closed the rec centers and schools for...what...2+ weeks starting Monday? I suspect it’ll go longer than that, especially since we haven’t gone full China in our quarantine/isolation measures.

Ultimate players are dumb with our penchant for playing through injuries. during dangerous weather, and bad field conditions. 

Unless you plan to hold your breath for the whole 2 hours, let’s consider holding off for a bit. No one’s gonna stop anyone from playing but...I’d prefer to see most of you healthy.

hasan dossal

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Mar 13, 2020, 4:20:46 PM3/13/20
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We can wipe the disc down between points if that is a concern 

Hasan 

Charles Yu

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Mar 13, 2020, 5:56:44 PM3/13/20
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So...some perspective from a friend who runs pickup down in NC...tl;dr is that you can do your thing but think and be smart about it. There’s more to it than just wiping the disc down (besides...if we’re worried about the disc, shouldn’t we be worried about the people handling it, too? It’s not gonna pick up the virus from scraping the ground):

“In light of...disc associations around the country suspending their respective leagues, USA Ultimate, AUDL, PUL, WUL suspending their respective programming, and numerous schools closing or reverting to online classes, I think it is sensible we do not hold...pickup for at least the next few weeks. I can't force anyone to not play, but I think it would be irresponsible to do so at this time. I understand different people may feel differently about this, but please read this before commenting.

Here are two links which I strongly recommend reading before forming any conclusions about this, and gave me good perspective while I was forming my own opinions:



The term which repeatedly comes up in these resources and others is: social distancing. Even if we replace high fives with fist bumps, sanitize the disc in between points, and wash hands thoroughly before and after pickup, by nature of the sport there is still extensive contact in the stack, in the endzone, playing person defense, etc. It is not at all unreasonable to think that the virus could be amongst frisbee players currently and could spread through pickup. Social distancing, ie. limiting non-essential contact with other people, can help reduce the chances of that occurring.

One of the main push backs I've seen regarding whether pickup should be cancelled or not is, "How long can this go on? We can't stay at home forever." With the current state of the virus moving past the containment stage and into the delay or mitigation stage, it is very important that we do what we can right now to delay the virus's impact on hospitals and ensure individuals who need important care can receive it. We may not be able to  eliminate the virus until the vaccine comes out (at best), but our actions as a community during these next few weeks or months are critical to ensure the spread of the virus is slowed as much as possible. Surely we can go without frisbee for that amount of time.

Another common counter I've seen is "The majority of cases are mild, people are overreacting and panicking." While it is true that there is unnecessary panic going around (ie. no need to hoard on toilet paper), it is also true that this virus is more dangerous and infectious than other viruses of the past, so it's not just your average cold. Additionally, while most cases do tend to be mild, certain demographics have very different risk levels than that of young, healthy adults. As such, the young, healthy adults who might not be personally affected still bear some responsibility to avoid carrying the virus to individuals facing more risk.

Therefore, my thoughts are that we should align ourselves with other frisbee organizations...and shelve pickup until at least those organizations begin playing again. That said, if you choose to play anyway, may I strongly encourage taking the following steps:

• Commit yourself to washing hands vigorously immediately before and after pickup. There is a restroom on Hooker and water spigot on Finley (bring your own soap for Finley).

• Sanitize the disc with wipes or spray every few points.

• Replace high fives with forearm or elbow bumps or air high fives.

• Limit unnecessary contact (maybe just throw around? or play zone instead of person, etc).”

Matt Dingerdissen

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Mar 13, 2020, 6:03:25 PM3/13/20
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For what it's worth, I agree with Chuck. It sucks, but I think skipping a few weekends (at least) is the way to go. 

Matt

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Lawrence Howe

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Mar 13, 2020, 8:55:15 PM3/13/20
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An alternative suggestion: HIIT aka High Intensity Interval Training. I'm like a lot of people in that I don't like (OK totally hate) going running. HIIT works like this: run as fast as you can for 30 seconds, then walk/jog for 60 seconds. Repeat this for 20 minutes. The good part about this is you don't get that "I'm about to die" shortness of breath feeling. Also, 20 minutes of HIIT is as good as 60 minutes of jogging AND the metabolism increase lasts all day. Google that shit if you don't believe me.

Biggie.

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Mar 13, 2020, 11:02:52 PM3/13/20
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Rules to Double Disc Court linked below.  It has pretty good built-in social distancing, assuming hand and disc sanitizing etc. 


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Joseph Huang

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Mar 13, 2020, 11:40:39 PM3/13/20
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There is a pretty good disc golf course at Seneca Creek State Park.

Will

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Mar 13, 2020, 11:41:10 PM3/13/20
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Well said Chuck.  Very similar to the points made in this article, which really hit hard for me:

'Young and Unafraid of the Coronavirus Pandemic? Good for You. Now Stop Killing People'

It's here, it's spreading undetected, and it's up to all of us to Flatten the Curve before it overwhelms our healthcare systems.

Dylan Brown

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Mar 14, 2020, 9:30:45 AM3/14/20
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Welp!  Rightly feeling shamed for selfishness, which I think is a great way to be pushed into better and more socially responsible behavior.

Hope to see you all in a few weeks!

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Jeremy

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Mar 14, 2020, 9:56:20 AM3/14/20
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I love double disc court.  I'm going over at 10:30 and we can figure it out.   We'll need many sets of cones so being whatever you have.

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Mar 14, 2020, 10:38:10 AM3/14/20
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I’m still at the tail end of my self-imposed rehab. After plantar fasciitis, hamstring etc last summer/fall, I kept coming back too soon and getting reinjured. So I took months off, and between that and covid, no DDC for me today. But I have been running, and hope to see y’all soon!

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Jeremy

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Mar 14, 2020, 11:05:33 AM3/14/20
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A couple of us are at Woodley 



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