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HINDUS KNEW THE IMPORTANCE OF "CONSCIOUSNESS" MILLENNIUMS AHEAD OF
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http://www.atimes.com/why-india-will-supersede-china-part-2/

Why India will supersede China – Part 2

By Jan Krikke| December 5, 2018 11:44 PM (UTC+8)

Science has yet to define and fully understand consciousness, but the
debate has been given a new impetus by artificial intelligence, where
the issue centers on the question: Can AI develop its own consciousness?

The meaning of the European word consciousness as we understand it today
is often attributed to René Descartes (1596-1650), who used the word
“conscientia.” Others attribute the current notion of consciousness to
John Locke’s “Essay Concerning Human Understanding,” published in 1690.
Locke defined consciousness as “the perception of what passes in a man’s
own mind.” An 18th-century encyclopedia defined consciousness awkwardly
as “the opinion or internal feeling that we ourselves have from what we do.”

The growing interest in consciousness in Europe, as expressed by
Descartes’ “I think, therefore I am” has been explained as the
liberation of religious (Catholic) dogma that had Europe in its grip for
centuries. In China, the equivalence of consciousness was expressed by
the term “heart-mind” and had Confucian-ethical connotations concerning
how humans should act in society. The “seeking,” as opposed to
believing, was left to the Taoists.

Only the ancient Vedic-yogic tradition of India developed a
comprehensive framework for the study of consciousness. India has been
called the land of seekers without a religion but with millions of gods.
By some estimates, the yogic tradition that aimed to define and develop
consciousness goes back 10.000 years. The country has rich literature
and elaborate terminology related to consciousness and has a new
topicality. Subhash Kak, an Indian-American computer scientist,
explained in a recent article that the Indian notion of consciousness
could be crucial to the future of modern science. He writes:

“Scientific attitudes towards consciousness have changed due to the
recent advances in neurophysiology and because modern physics and
computer science are confronted with the question of the nature of the
observer. In many ways, the study of consciousness is center-stage in
the discussions of modern science. On the other hand, a considerable
part of Indian thought is devoted to the question of consciousness.”

He adds: “Note that there are intriguing parallels between the insights
of the early Vedic theory of consciousness and those of quantum
mechanics and neuroscience. In the Vedic theory, which dates back to at
least 2000 BC, one views awareness in terms of the reaction that the
hardware of the brain provides to an underlying illuminating or
awareness principle called the self. This approach allows one to
separate questions of the tools of awareness, such as vision, hearing
and the mind, from the person who obtains this awareness.”

Several pioneers of quantum physics were aware of the correlation
between quantum mechanics and the way the ancient Indians described
reality. Erwin Schrödinger’s work on quantum mechanics was partly
inspired by Vedic thought. His influential book What is Life? was
infused by Vedic thought. Theoretical physicist Eugene Wigner and other
students of Schrödinger’s work have since argued that advances in
physics would eventually require us to include consciousness in the
scientific framework. The seemingly curious notion in quantum mechanics
that “the act of observing subatomic particles changes their behavior”
can only be understood by understanding human consciousness.

The field of psychology has also struggled to understand consciousness.
The prominent Canadian psychologist Ronald Melzack recently wrote:

“The field of psychology is in a state of crisis. We are no closer now
to understanding the most fundamental problems of psychology than we
were when psychology became a science a hundred years ago. Each of us is
aware of being a unique ‘self’ different from other people and the world
around us. But the nature of the ‘self’, which is central to all
psychology, has no physiological basis in any contemporary theory and
continues to elude us. The concept of ‘mind’ is as perplexing as ever.”

Sadhguru

Jaggy Vasudev, popularly known as Sadhguru, is one of the modern
incarnations of India’s ancient yogi. Sadhguru is equally at home with
ancient yogic practices as with quantum physics. His book Inner
Engineering was an international bestseller. He has spoken at the United
Nations, MIT, and Stanford and has shared the stage with prominent
quantum physicists, economists, and social scientists throughout the
world. He also has 5 million volunteers for his Isha Foundation, an
international organization that is active in social outreach, education,
and environmental programs.

Sadhguru articulates the intricate yogic view of consciousness in a
language that resonates with people across all cultures. He explains
that in the yogic tradition, consciousness has 16 different dimensions
that are distilled in four main categories: buddhi (intellect), manas
(memory, both mental and physical), ahankara (identity, sometimes
referred to as ego), and chitta (cosmic consciousness).

Sadhguru compares the intellect to a knife. It is used to dissect and
analyze things. The intellect is controlled by memory, our personal
databases of stored knowledge and the accumulation of experience
throughout our lives. Identity is shaped by family, social and cultural
environment, education, media, etc.

Intellect evolved from instinct developed as survival skills. Memory and
identity explain why people use intellect in different ways even though
we all rely on the same natural and universal principles to survive.
Sadhguru explains our connectedness to the universe in terms even a
child can understand. We all depend on oxygen, which is produced by
trees, grasses and tiny ocean plants drifting with the ocean currents
(phytoplankton). Plants rely on the sun for photosynthesis, of which
oxygen is a byproduct. Just by holding our breath for one minute or
longer makes us aware that we are part of this universal process.

In recent history, industrialization and modernization have put
excessive focus on the intellect in education and society as a whole.
The trend started in the West, spread to East Asia as well as India.
Intellect played a key role in modernization but it is now showing its
limitations. Sadhguru explains that the intellect is a knife that helps
us to cut open a flower and study its inner parts, but the intellect
alone is not able to grasp the totality of its existence.

Sadhguru is living proof that striving for higher consciousness does not
have to be an aim in itself. It can spur us into action, born out of a
sense of connectedness with everything and everybody, from suffering
children to deforestation. The Isha Foundation’s Project Green Hands
mobilized two million volunteers to plant 30 million trees in India, the
largest ecological project ever undertaken in Asia. Sadhguru also
initiated the River Rally by traveling 9,000 km through India to raise
awareness of the plight of India’s rivers. His 5 million volunteers
around the world are active in education, healthcare and other social
programs not provided by governments.

The deity within

In the 20th century, power tools and robots relieved us of most physical
work. In the 21st century, AI will relieve us of most mental work. When
AI can do everything humans can but do it faster and better, it will
arguably be the last science we will ever need. AI will handle virtually
all tasks that require intellect and can be captured in mathematical
structures.

What AI will not be able to develop is human consciousness, if only
because we do not yet fully understand what it is and how it develops.
Consciousness will increasingly be the focus of AI, quantum physics,
psychology, and many other disciplines, including the social sciences.

The best AI can do is simulate consciousness, and Vedic knowledge of
consciousness offers a blueprint. Its view that consciousness consists
of four parts explains much of human behavior, among them the seemingly
inexplicable behavior of fanatics; their intellect has been hijacked by
their identity, whether based on nationality, ideology, or religious belief.

Vedic understanding of consciousness is attracting growing interest from
the neurosciences. Two years ago, Bala Subramaniaman, an anesthesia
specialist at Harvard Medical School, asked Sadhguru how anesthesia
makes one unconscious. Sadhguru responded by saying: “Anesthesia cannot
touch consciousness, it can only take away memory. What you are
referring to as consciousness is wakefulness. We do not consider
wakefulness as consciousness. Being wakeful and being conscious are two
different things… Consciousness means you went beyond your memory and
grasped the nature of reality as it is.”

Sadhguru and other yogic teachers are modern interpreters of India’s
ancient tradition. Their knowledge will play an increasingly important
role in the future of science, psychology and AI. When AI can handle
most mental tasks, people will wonder: What’s next?

While the world looked at the West for science and East Asia for
“application technology,” they will look at Vedic sciences to explore
the ultimate frontier of consciousness. It will put India center stage,
if not as an economic powerhouse but surely as a “spiritual superpower.”

Vedic science provides a manual for our consciousness and shows that the
same cosmic principle sustains all that exists and that the distinction
between human, god(s) and the universe is artificial. It explains why
India has 33 million deities, one for every conceivable phenomenon that
partakes in the reality of our existence. Transcend your identity and
your memory and you will see deities everywhere you look, only to
realize that one of them is you.

RH156RH

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Translation: Hindu society is based on a primitive religion with gods with too many arms and legs and a caste system which discriminates one the basis of caste... RH

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On 12/19/2018 5:49 AM, The Doctor wrote:
> In article <atoSD.51235$W_2....@fx05.iad>,
> FBInCIAnNSATerroristSlayer <FBInCIAnNSATe...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> HINDUS KNEW THE IMPORTANCE OF "CONSCIOUSNESS" MILLENNIUMS AHEAD OF
>> WESTERN CHRISTIANS
>>
>> http://www.atimes.com/why-india-will-supersede-china-part-2/
>>
>> Why India will supersede China – Part 2
>>
>> By Jan Krikke| December 5, 2018 11:44 PM (UTC+8)
>>
>> Science has yet to define and fully understand consciousness, but the
>> debate has been given a new impetus by artificial intelligence, where
>> the issue centers on the question: Can AI develop its own consciousness?
>>
>> The meaning of the European word consciousness as we understand it today
>> is often attributed to René Descartes (1596-1650), who used the word
>> “conscientia.†Others attribute the current notion of consciousness to
>> John Locke’s “Essay Concerning Human Understanding,†published in 1690.
>> Locke defined consciousness as “the perception of what passes in a man’s
>> own mind.†An 18th-century encyclopedia defined consciousness awkwardly
>> as “the opinion or internal feeling that we ourselves have from what we do.â€
>>
>> The growing interest in consciousness in Europe, as expressed by
>> Descartes’ “I think, therefore I am†has been explained as the
>> liberation of religious (Catholic) dogma that had Europe in its grip for
>> centuries. In China, the equivalence of consciousness was expressed by
>> the term “heart-mind†and had Confucian-ethical connotations concerning
>> how humans should act in society. The “seeking,†as opposed to
>> believing, was left to the Taoists.
>>
>> Only the ancient Vedic-yogic tradition of India developed a
>> comprehensive framework for the study of consciousness. India has been
>> called the land of seekers without a religion but with millions of gods.
>> By some estimates, the yogic tradition that aimed to define and develop
>> consciousness goes back 10.000 years. The country has rich literature
>> and elaborate terminology related to consciousness and has a new
>> topicality. Subhash Kak, an Indian-American computer scientist,
>> explained in a recent article that the Indian notion of consciousness
>> could be crucial to the future of modern science. He writes:
>>
>> “Scientific attitudes towards consciousness have changed due to the
>> recent advances in neurophysiology and because modern physics and
>> computer science are confronted with the question of the nature of the
>> observer. In many ways, the study of consciousness is center-stage in
>> the discussions of modern science. On the other hand, a considerable
>> part of Indian thought is devoted to the question of consciousness.â€
>>
>> He adds: “Note that there are intriguing parallels between the insights
>> of the early Vedic theory of consciousness and those of quantum
>> mechanics and neuroscience. In the Vedic theory, which dates back to at
>> least 2000 BC, one views awareness in terms of the reaction that the
>> hardware of the brain provides to an underlying illuminating or
>> awareness principle called the self. This approach allows one to
>> separate questions of the tools of awareness, such as vision, hearing
>> and the mind, from the person who obtains this awareness.â€
>>
>> Several pioneers of quantum physics were aware of the correlation
>> between quantum mechanics and the way the ancient Indians described
>> reality. Erwin Schrödinger’s work on quantum mechanics was partly
>> inspired by Vedic thought. His influential book What is Life? was
>> infused by Vedic thought. Theoretical physicist Eugene Wigner and other
>> students of Schrödinger’s work have since argued that advances in
>> physics would eventually require us to include consciousness in the
>> scientific framework. The seemingly curious notion in quantum mechanics
>> that “the act of observing subatomic particles changes their behaviorâ€
>> can only be understood by understanding human consciousness.
>>
>> The field of psychology has also struggled to understand consciousness.
>> The prominent Canadian psychologist Ronald Melzack recently wrote:
>>
>> “The field of psychology is in a state of crisis. We are no closer now
>> to understanding the most fundamental problems of psychology than we
>> were when psychology became a science a hundred years ago. Each of us is
>> aware of being a unique ‘self’ different from other people and the world
>> around us. But the nature of the ‘self’, which is central to all
>> psychology, has no physiological basis in any contemporary theory and
>> continues to elude us. The concept of ‘mind’ is as perplexing as ever.â€
>>
>> Sadhguru
>>
>> Jaggy Vasudev, popularly known as Sadhguru, is one of the modern
>> incarnations of India’s ancient yogi. Sadhguru is equally at home with
>> children to deforestation. The Isha Foundation’s Project Green Hands
>> mobilized two million volunteers to plant 30 million trees in India, the
>> largest ecological project ever undertaken in Asia. Sadhguru also
>> initiated the River Rally by traveling 9,000 km through India to raise
>> awareness of the plight of India’s rivers. His 5 million volunteers
>> around the world are active in education, healthcare and other social
>> programs not provided by governments.
>>
>> The deity within
>>
>> In the 20th century, power tools and robots relieved us of most physical
>> work. In the 21st century, AI will relieve us of most mental work. When
>> AI can do everything humans can but do it faster and better, it will
>> arguably be the last science we will ever need. AI will handle virtually
>> all tasks that require intellect and can be captured in mathematical
>> structures.
>>
>> What AI will not be able to develop is human consciousness, if only
>> because we do not yet fully understand what it is and how it develops.
>> Consciousness will increasingly be the focus of AI, quantum physics,
>> psychology, and many other disciplines, including the social sciences.
>>
>> The best AI can do is simulate consciousness, and Vedic knowledge of
>> consciousness offers a blueprint. Its view that consciousness consists
>> of four parts explains much of human behavior, among them the seemingly
>> inexplicable behavior of fanatics; their intellect has been hijacked by
>> their identity, whether based on nationality, ideology, or religious belief.
>>
>> Vedic understanding of consciousness is attracting growing interest from
>> the neurosciences. Two years ago, Bala Subramaniaman, an anesthesia
>> specialist at Harvard Medical School, asked Sadhguru how anesthesia
>> makes one unconscious. Sadhguru responded by saying: “Anesthesia cannot
>> touch consciousness, it can only take away memory. What you are
>> referring to as consciousness is wakefulness. We do not consider
>> wakefulness as consciousness. Being wakeful and being conscious are two
>> different things… Consciousness means you went beyond your memory and
>> grasped the nature of reality as it is.â€
>>
>> Sadhguru and other yogic teachers are modern interpreters of India’s
>> ancient tradition. Their knowledge will play an increasingly important
>> role in the future of science, psychology and AI. When AI can handle
>> most mental tasks, people will wonder: What’s next?
>>
>> While the world looked at the West for science and East Asia for
>> “application technology,†they will look at Vedic sciences to explore
>> the ultimate frontier of consciousness. It will put India center stage,
>> if not as an economic powerhouse but surely as a “spiritual superpower.â€
>>
>> Vedic science provides a manual for our consciousness and shows that the
>> same cosmic principle sustains all that exists and that the distinction
>> between human, god(s) and the universe is artificial. It explains why
>> India has 33 million deities, one for every conceivable phenomenon that
>> partakes in the reality of our existence. Transcend your identity and
>> your memory and you will see deities everywhere you look, only to
>> realize that one of them is you.
>
> Depends if the Chinese Military overruns India by tanks and air superiority.
>



This column is about "Spirituality" and "Consciousness".

FACT remains that my ancestor Hindus knew about the "IMPORTANCE of
CONSCIOUSNESS" when the western christians were still rolling in the mud.

You still think there will be winners and losers in a "nuclear war"?

Dr. Jai Maharaj

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> HINDUS KNEW THE IMPORTANCE OF "CONSCIOUSNESS" MILLENNIUMS
> AHEAD OF WESTERN CHRISTIANS
>
> http://www.atimes.com/why-india-will-supersede-china-part-2/
>
> Why India will supersede China -- Part 2
Dhanyavaad for posting the article.

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi Om Shanti
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