Hohner Gola 414
KEITH ANDERSON
getting various different opinions about its value ranging from $3,000
to $10,000 US dollars. It is about 25 years old. Can anyone give me an
approximate value?
Jeroen Nijhof
The Hohner Gola 414 is Hohner's top of the range instrument,
absolutely world class. In the German accordion newspaper Intermusik,
the asking price for 'as new' Gola 414-s seems to be DM22000 always,
which is about $13,000.
But if you are talking about that kind of figures, I would get an
independent valuation -- one hears horror stories of malicious
repairers that have replaced the Gola reeds by Morino reeds.
Still quite nice, but not as nice.
For instance the House of Musical Traditions and Ernst Deffner
will do appraisals, for $25 to $30 (based on physical inspection)
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Jeroen Nijhof J.H.B....@aston.ac.uk
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Robert Berta
end Hohners, the maintenance is a nightmare at times and often lousy
technicians can ruin the accordion. I understand that the reeds are specialy
designed to never need tuning (?) and that when they are tuned they are ruined.
Something about the type of metal and plating/surface treatment they receive.
Don't know if this is in fact but I would check into it....best recommendation
is to contact Helmi at the accordion repair school. She knows all about the
Gola and has one in her collection.
I have heard that the selling price for a Gola new is very expensive in the US
and the finest Italian accordions have a better reputation for cost vs. sound.
I am sure that the Hohner afficiandos on this NG will take me to task for this
but this is personal preferrence.
Bob Berta
Jeroen Nijhof <J.H.B....@aston.ac.uk> wrote in article
<1998111011...@penguin.aston.ac.uk>...
BobSmith4
Yes, indeed. I got an opportunity to play one a Helmi's school. It was very
nice. My only complaint was that the bass switches were not the same as
those standardized years ago. The "Alto" switch was missing (that is the
one in which the two highest registers of the bass section are activated.)
I imagine that if one were to order a new Gola, that one could specify
the switches. My ear is not good enough to determine the other switches
just by listening, so I cannot tell about them.
Bob
SNAV88
I have heard that the selling price for a Gola new is very expensive in the US
and the finest Italian accordions have a better reputation for cost vs. sound.
I am sure that the Hohner afficiandos on this NG will take me to task for this
but this is personal preferrence.
Bob Berta>>
Isn't it surprising that one does not find many pros using a Gola? I only
stumbled across two....Christian diMaggio, and Andy Arcari. Christian indicated
to me that they gave it to him for publicity. Christian requested Giulietti to
build him a similar instrument on that same basis.....free. Andy, on the other
hand, retailed Hohner, I believe, after leaving Excelsior.
If the highest paid accordionist...the great Magnante, didn't use a Gola, then
the question arises....why? That's quite an investment with little or no
return except self satisfaction.
Steve Navoyosky
jnatoli
> Isn't it surprising that one does not find many pros using a Gola? I only
> stumbled across two....Christian diMaggio, and Andy Arcari. Christian indicated
> to me that they gave it to him for publicity. Christian requested Giulietti to
> build him a similar instrument on that same basis.....free. Andy, on the other
> hand, retailed Hohner, I believe, after leaving Excelsior.
>
> If the highest paid accordionist...the great Magnante, didn't use a Gola, then
> the question arises....why? That's quite an investment with little or no
> return except self satisfaction.
>
> Steve Navoyosky
>
Steve,
The Gola is used a lot more frequently in Canada than in the US. Joe Petric and
most of my other colleagues used them. Also Stephen Hussoung uses a Gola (he
studied in Canada). The Gola is a good instrument (albeit expensive and
overpriced). Their reeds were always much stronger than the Giulietti. Never any
free bass choking of reeds when playing strongly as I have always been plauged with
on the Giulietti. It's a darn good accordion for the professional "Free Bass"
concert artist IMHO. I wouldn't see Magnante or any other artist needing this
instrument however if they don't play free bass. That's why Magnante never had one
most likely. Lots of other manufacturers seemed to have found the right formula
for strong reeds in the right hand, but other than the Hohner Gola and Titano, I've
never seen one (including Giulietti) who had ever found that same formula for a
strong free bass left hand.
Best,
Joe
Gary Blair
Message text written by SNAV88
>Isn't it surprising that one does not find many pros using a Gola? I only
stumbled across two....Christian diMaggio, and Andy Arcari. Christian
indicated
to me that they gave it to him for publicity. Christian requested Giulietti
to
build him a similar instrument on that same basis.....free. Andy, on the
other
hand, retailed Hohner, I believe, after leaving Excelsior.>>
We have quite a few Gola players in Scotland. There was gentleman who
collected
them and had 14 or so , in his collection. When he died his wife sold them
off and
they were quickly bought up. I personally don't rate them ( I have tried at
least 5)
nor do I rate Hohner's in general.
Sorry , but that's the way I feel.
Regards
Gary Blair (Scotland)
ps It was more to do with the action of the keyboard than anything else.
accl...@yahoo.ca
> I have a Hohner Gola 414 for sale in absolutely new condition.I am
> getting various different opinions about its value ranging from $3,000
> to $10,000 US dollars. It is about 25 years old. Can anyone give me an
> approximate value?
David
www.acclarion.ca
ciao_accordion
the only REAL source in the USA for a reed-repair on
a Gola is going to be Helmi Harrington, at the World of
Accordions museum and foundation, as she has many Gola's
in the collection, and probably some for parts
the true original Gola reed is quite special, nearly
unique in the accoridon world, and the technology
to make them is lost.
the reed uses a special Stainless Steel, yet is not brittle,
an amazing achievement, THEN Gola also crafted a treatment
method to "equalize" the volume of the different reed-blocks
and reed sizes... another totally lost art...
you shouldn't be having issues with Gola reeds, BTW,
so here's hoping you didn't buy one on ebay that
had the reeds switched out (it's happened a LOT)
there are no issues or problems when spot-tuning
his reeds, just remember tune the accordion to
ITSELF (as it was from the original Provino of Gola)
and not to a rigid, digitally perfect tuning
ciao
Ventura
yes i still have mine
thev...@gmail.com
DoN. Nichols
first have to ask -- is there clearance to the sides so the rod can
slide the bearing shaft straight out? If so, yes, just push it gently
-- perhaps a light tap to start it.
You might want to make another shaft of the same diameter, or
perhaps a little smaller to follow it, so all the other keys are held in
place, and you can pull the original shaft just far enough ahead of the
pusher to let the key be removed without a pile of other keys
accumulating. (And if there is a bevel on the ends of the shaft, it
might make it easier to slide through the keys, getting them centered.
Good Luck,
DoN.
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ciao_accordion
if you screw it up your $10,000 accordion will be worthless junk
period
pulling the action on a Gola is not a job for a beginner...
there are a LOT of things you can ruin, seriously, and you'll
never get it all fixed right again if you do
this is something you need to LEARN to do on a few crappy accordions first,
working your way up to the point you can do it FOR CERTAIN on a good one
the other point is, if ONE key needs repair and it's the pad in the
Tone Chamber (otherwise you wouldn't need to pull the action) then
you might as well re-pad the whole treble and be done with it... or
you'll be back doing it again and again on other keys who's pads
would have the same age and fatigue factors
there was also a period when Hohner tried the modern glue that was
briefly popular around the Accordion world, (until everyone realised
it breaks down and migrates through the pads to the surface) and if
this is the root cause of your current problem, again a complete
re-pad job is in order (as well as a serious re-furbishing of the plates)
ciao
Ventura
ike milligan
news:3596df8a-73e6-4259...@googlegroups.com:
onto a stick. Before tuning a reeds, ascertain why the reed is out of
tune. A lot of times it needs only to be very carefully cleaned and have
the right reed valve put on it, not too stiff. Also it can happen that
the reed-block gets slid a couple millimeters lengthwises even with
gola, and if that happens, the tuning changes. the holes in the block
have to be exactly over the holes in the fondo. Key valves not letting
enough air in will make the reed go flat in pitch. Loose reed or bad
reed valve can also change the pitch. A lot more could be said about
tuning, and the Gola should only be tuned by a very high quality
technician.
ike milligan
news:d3d25119-0367-4c21...@googlegroups.com:
Key spindles can get a bit corroded and not come out at all. then you have
to figure out another way. What does it mean you have to fix a key?
ciao_accordion
> have to be exactly over the holes in the fondo.
also, looks like you survived another Winter too, Ike,
good to hear from ya'
i'll try'n get up there and say Hi sometime this Spring
jane Fondo - maybe i'll remember it if i make that association