A Small GK Q
Harish Suvarna
So far I could find reference to US in Hindi film songs only once.
Basically country name comes in that song. What is the song?
If you know the answer do not post it in NG until 4th June.
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I distictly remember at least two songs which have reference to US. One
of them carries the name of few cities and other just the name of the
country. By the way both are old hits.
Vishnu
Harish Suvarna (sundu) wrote:
: So far I could find reference to US in Hindi film songs only once.
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S.Jagadish
> I distictly remember at least two songs which have reference to US. One
> of them carries the name of few cities and other just the name of the
> country. By the way both are old hits.
I only remember Kishore Kumar singing "America mein shaadi hogi honeymoon
Africa" from Meri lottery lag jaane vaali hai !
One riot of a song, film Holi Aai Re
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umesh garg
In article <4oslt6$j...@usenet.rpi.edu> vkh...@unix.cie.rpi.edu (Vishnu Khemka)
writes (in response to a query by Harish Suvarna):
>I distictly remember at least two songs which have reference to US. One
>of them carries the name of few cities and other just the name of the
>country. By the way both are old hits.
>
One song with the names of US cities is from the film "Duniya Ki Sair"
(OR "Around the world") starring Raj Kapoor and Saira Bano. It goes like :
Duniyaa kee sair kar lo
Duniyaa kee sair kar lo
Insaa.n ke dost ban kar
Insaa.n se pyaar kar lo
.
.
.
Loa Angeles bhaDkeelaa
Yahaan Hollywood hai rangeelaa
Dekho Disneyland meiN aakar
Pariyo.n kaa desh dharatee par
.
.
It also had a stanza about New York (something like: New York shahar kaa melaa..); perhaps, someone remembers the rest of the song.
This was sung by Mukesh and Sharda to the music of Shankar Jaikishan. If I had
to guess, I would say the lyrics were by Hasrat Jaipuri.
-Umesh
Harish Suvarna
Alright. jagdeesh posted the song. That was in my mind. I did not
know of the other song mentioned by Vishnu and answered by Umesh Garg.
Neeraj deshmukh,Pritam Dutta sent me emails on KK's song.
Harish Suvarna
In goes another simple one..
We had a heavy argument over pronouncitaions of KK, Rafi LM etc on
Shikhwa/Shikwa, Qayamat/kayamat etc.. It was a big and interesting thread.
In the history of hindi film songs, the pronounciation is corrected
right in the song by a voice of the other voice. What is the song?
Vishnu Khemka
S.Jagadish (sf91...@gamma.ntu.ac.sg) wrote:
: > I distictly remember at least two songs which have reference to US. One
: > of them carries the name of few cities and other just the name of the
: > country. By the way both are old hits.
: I only remember Kishore Kumar singing "America mein shaadi hogi honeymoon
: Africa" from Meri lottery lag jaane vaali hai !
: One riot of a song, film Holi Aai Re
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The other song I was talking about is from the movie Around the World
starring Raj Kapoor. The song goes:
Duniya kee sair karlo ,
Duniya kee sair kar lo
Insaan ke dost bankar
Insaan se pyaar kar lo.
Around the world in eight dollars.
(The first stanza of the song goes )
Los Angeles bhadkeela
yehaan Hollywood hai rangeela
dekho disneyland mein aakar
Pariyon ka desh dhartee par.
(and the last two lines in the second stanza are)
Naheen tera koi hai saani
are waah re waah Miami.
Veena S Nayak
In article <4ovd1n$2...@fido.asd.sgi.com>, Harish Suvarna <sundu> wrote:
>In goes another simple one..
>right in the song by a voice of the other voice. What is the song?
"Saawan ka mahina, pawan kare sor" / Mukesh-Lata in Milan
Veena.
Rizwan M. Syed
>Shikhwa/Shikwa, Qayamat/kayamat etc.. It was a big and interesting thread.
>right in the song by a voice of the other voice. What is the song?
Ummm, 'saavan kaa maheena, pavan karay Soar..
' Arre baaba, Soar nahee.n, SHoar, Shoar...'
:)
later
Rizwan
S.Jagadish
> We had a heavy argument over pronouncitaions of KK, Rafi LM etc on
> Shikhwa/Shikwa, Qayamat/kayamat etc.. It was a big and interesting thread.
> In the history of hindi film songs, the pronounciation is corrected
> right in the song by a voice of the other voice. What is the song?
Dats easy, Saavan Ka Mahiina Pavan Kare Shor ... are shor nahin baba Sor Sor !
Mukesh and Lata, forgot the film.
Btw does the Mr India parody of this song also count ? (Sorry Didi ab hum nahin
karenge Sor, are sor nahin baba shor !)
I like dese GK Qs !
Harish Suvarna
That's correct dear friends.
sf91...@gamma.ntu.ac.sg (S.Jagadish) wrote:
>Btw does the Mr India parody of this song also count ? (Sorry Didi ab hum nahin
>karenge Sor, are sor nahin baba shor !)
I think the answer of 'saavan ka mahina' is original.
>
>I like dese GK Qs !
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Harish Suvarna
Alright friends.
Normally when we see a line of song we remember that tune and
we are tuned. It is very difficult to jump from that tune
to another tune. It happens especially when we are hearing
a classical peace and suddenly we know that 'aree there is a
song of this kind' and we will be in that damned loop.
But to our creative MDs this is not a problem at all.
Tell me the 'different' songs you know which begin with same line
in the mukhda. I know only one such set. There might be more.
S.Jagadish
> Tell me the 'different' songs you know which begin with same line
> in the mukhda. I know only one such set. There might be more.
Well I donno if my answer is rite, but I've noticed that the beginning of
Mukaala Muqable from Kaadalan/Humse hai Muqabla and Pyaar Hua Ikraar hua are
very similar to each other !
Kamlesh
Harish Suvarna wrote:
>
>> In the history of hindi film songs, the pronounciation is corrected
> right in the song by a voice of the other voice. What is the song?
> Is it Sawan ka mahina pavan kare sor, shor nahin baba sor, sor sooooooor.
Vishnu Khemka
Harish Suvarna (sundu) wrote:
: Alright friends.
: Normally when we see a line of song we remember that tune and
: we are tuned. It is very difficult to jump from that tune
: to another tune. It happens especially when we are hearing
: a classical peace and suddenly we know that 'aree there is a
: song of this kind' and we will be in that damned loop.
: But to our creative MDs this is not a problem at all.
: Tell me the 'different' songs you know which begin with same line
: in the mukhda. I know only one such set. There might be more.
I wonder if you are talking about the songs:
Main chali main chali piche piche jahaan - from the movie professor.
or
Main chali main chali dekho pyaar kee gali
koi roko na mujhe main chali main chali - from the movie Padosan.
Vishnu Khemka
Harish Suvarna
sf91...@omega.ntu.ac.sg (S.Jagadish) wrote:
>> Tell me the 'different' songs you know which begin with same line
>> in the mukhda. I know only one such set. There might be more.
>
>Mukaala Muqable from Kaadalan/Humse hai Muqabla and Pyaar Hua Ikraar hua are
>very similar to each other !
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What is the beginning of these songs?
What I have in mind is
song 1. "ABC DEF GHI JKL" (first line of mukhda)
song 2. "ABC DEF GHI JKL" (first line of Mukhda) or
"ABC DEF GHI" (first line of mukhda, being a subset)
Tunes are different.
We have songs like
choti si yeh zindaggani re chaar din ki
cho ti si yeh duniyaa batade ... kahin to milegi
But this is not the answer as the first lines of mukhdaa themselves
are different.
let us take Lata's two numbers 'Ja Ja re Ja .....Baalamuva' (Adalat MD MM)
'Ja Ja re Ja .....Saajan' (Basant Bahar SJ)
Even these two do not qualify as the mukhda lines themselves are different.
Today morning I listened to both versions, I can not sing the SJ version
now. MM version just corrupts and I just can't remember the second one.
If someone has both songs. Just play them while one version is coming
('ja ja re ja part) only, try to sing the other 'ja ja re ja'. You will
surely say 'damn it'.
This is a rare case. I hope at least 1 or two more cases come out.
S.Jagadish
>>Well I donno if my answer is rite, but I've noticed that the beginning of
>>Mukaala Muqable from Kaadalan/Humse hai Muqabla and Pyaar Hua Ikraar hua are
>>very similar to each other !
> What is the beginning of these songs?
> What I have in mind is
> song 1. "ABC DEF GHI JKL" (first line of mukhda)
> song 2. "ABC DEF GHI JKL" (first line of Mukhda) or
> "ABC DEF GHI" (first line of mukhda, being a subset)
Ya mean almost exact notes ? IIRC, Mukaala and Pyaar Hua differ in their first
line of the song because there are 2 notes for the 1st sound (ie Mu and Ka have
the same note) whereas in Pyaar Hua, the Pyaar is the same note.
Nitin Sharma
Rizwan M. Syed (riz...@sparco.com) wrote:
: >In goes another simple one..
: >We had a heavy argument over pronouncitaions of KK, Rafi LM etc on
: >Shikhwa/Shikwa, Qayamat/kayamat etc.. It was a big and interesting thread.
: >In the history of hindi film songs, the pronounciation is corrected
: >right in the song by a voice of the other voice. What is the song?
: Ummm, 'saavan kaa maheena, pavan karay Soar..
: ' Arre baaba, Soar nahee.n, SHoar, Shoar...'
Its "arre baba shor nahin, sor, sor !", as lots of others pointed.
Another example of such a song which seems to have been missed is
one from gharonda : "do deewane shehar men, raat men aur ..."
The relevant line is : "asmaani rang ki ankhoN men..."
"asmani ya aasmaani ?"
-nitin
Harish Suvarna
Oh yes Nitin, Great. Thanx. The female voice definitely says
'asmani ya aasmaani' and then corrects.
This is tough one to spot as it comes in the middle of the song.
Eise waali geet Aur bhi khazaana me hoga shaayad!.
Harish Suvarna
vkh...@unix.cie.rpi.edu (Vishnu Khemka) wrote:
>Harish Suvarna (sundu) wrote:
>: Alright friends.
>
>: Normally when we see a line of song we remember that tune and
>: we are tuned. It is very difficult to jump from that tune
>: to another tune. It happens especially when we are hearing
>: a classical peace and suddenly we know that 'aree there is a
>: song of this kind' and we will be in that damned loop.
>: But to our creative MDs this is not a problem at all.
>
>
>
>
>Main chali main chali piche piche jahaan - from the movie professor.
>or
>Main chali main chali dekho pyaar kee gali
>koi roko na mujhe main chali main chali - from the movie Padosan.
Yes Vishnu, this is a new one. I do not know song 2 mentioned by you.
But the first line of song 1 mukhda looks like used.
The one I know like this is
1)Tasveer Banata Hun
Tasveer nahin banti (talat-naushaad)
2) Tasveer Banata hun Teri
Khune jigar se... (Rafi-Diwana).
The 'teri' in song 2 I think is part of line 1 in the mukhda.
If it were'nt there I would have been totally satisfied.
Basically the beauty of such types is that
1) If someone says 'tasveer banata hun', very rarely for a hindi film
song I can ask the question 'which tasveer banata hun?'.
2) The starting of a song should be good, this too CAN decide the
fate of song. Normally I think, the brain of the lyricist
opposes to proceed further if it is already existing and Also for
the sake of not using other lyricist's words. Similarly, perhaps
the MD also gets affected to give a tune initially.
Always things like this generate interest. Thanx a lot for the answer.
Harish Suvarna
sf91...@gamma.ntu.ac.sg (S.Jagadish) wrote:
>>>Well I donno if my answer is rite, but I've noticed that the beginning of
>>>Mukaala Muqable from Kaadalan/Humse hai Muqabla and Pyaar Hua Ikraar hua are
>>>very similar to each other !
>
>> What is the beginning of these songs?
>> What I have in mind is
>> song 1. "ABC DEF GHI JKL" (first line of mukhda)
>> song 2. "ABC DEF GHI JKL" (first line of Mukhda) or
>> "ABC DEF GHI" (first line of mukhda, being a subset)
>
>Ya mean almost exact notes ? IIRC, Mukaala and Pyaar Hua differ in their first
>line of the song because there are 2 notes for the 1st sound (ie Mu and Ka have
>the same note) whereas in Pyaar Hua, the Pyaar is the same note.
>
Jagdeesh, I never heard Muqabala properly. But I was interested in just
lyrics of first line mathcing between two different songs. Since it is a
heavy kind of Q, does not generate much interest. So I posted my answer to
kill this.
Sorry to all, if it did'nt cause much joy. But if you come across any such
setc please post it in NG.
The other day
One music lover sang in to my answering machine 'dil vil pyaar vaar'.
Could'nt get his name. Thanx dear music lover.
--
Vishal Ailawadhi
>
>Dats easy, Saavan Ka Mahiina Pavan Kare Shor ... are shor nahin baba Sor Sor !
>
>Mukesh and Lata, forgot the film.
>
Movie: Milan
--Vishal Ailawadhi
Kuntal M. Daftary
Harish Suvarna wrote:
> choti si yeh zindaggani re chaar din ki
> choti si yeh duniyaa batade ... kahin to milegi
choti si yeh duniyaa aur pahechaane raaste hain
tum kahin to miloge, tum kabhi to miloge, to puchhenge haal...
> This is a rare case. I hope at least 1 or two more cases come out.
here is one more:
ae mere humsafar... ek zaraa intezaar... (from QSQT)
ae mere humsafar... ae meri janejaan... (from baazigar)
Harish Suvarna
.....No No No....Yes..errrrrrrr...No No No....
Slip of Tongue is sometimes beatiful.
There are no sweeter 'lafz' for a lover to hear than 'I like you very much'
from his 'jhonny'. But 'jhonny' is very careful in saying 'yes' to those
'lafz'.
So if the guy is smart, he can extract these 'lafz' from his 'jonny' using
Slip of Tongue. Well, one of our hindi film songs is fully like this. Guy is
smart. In the end he gets a 'yes' for the 'lafz'.
Do you all know the song? (eaaaazeeeeee...)
Neeraj Malhotra
: : Tell me the 'different' songs you know which begin with same line
: : in the mukhda. I know only one such set. There might be more.
: I wonder if you are talking about the songs:
: Main chali main chali piche piche jahaan - from the movie professor.
: or
: Main chali main chali dekho pyaar kee gali
: koi roko na mujhe main chali main chali - from the movie Padosan.
: Vishnu Khemka
You have made me very restless, because I had such a pair in mind
a few wks ago, thinking - that is interesting - now I am totally
blank.
Did come up with one more ( though not the one that was on my mind )
1. Ek do teen, char paanch che saat aath nau dus, gyaarah, baarah terah
2. Ek do teen, chaar aur paanch, che aur saat, aath aur no
WAHEEDA REHMAN on the screen - don't know the movie.
( Not your true 'same mukhaDa' but close )
If you consider only 'ek do teen' then we can add
3. ek do teen, aaja mausam hai rangeen
- Neeraj M.
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Neeraj Deshmukh - The Falcon
In article <4p4s1e$r...@fido.asd.sgi.com> Harish Suvarna <sundu> writes:
> .....No No No....Yes..errrrrrrr...No No No....
You *had* to do that on top of everything, right? ;-)
> Slip of Tongue is sometimes beatiful.
:-) Slip of keyboard often isn't... Caught between 'beatific'
and 'beautiful', huh? :-) Just picking... ;-)
> There are no sweeter 'lafz' for a lover to hear than 'I like you
> very much' from his 'jhonny'. But 'jhonny' is very careful in saying
> 'yes' to those 'lafz'.
> So if the guy is smart, he can extract these 'lafz' from his 'jonny'
> using Slip of Tongue. Well, one of our hindi film songs is fully
> like this. Guy is smart. In the end he gets a 'yes' for the 'lafz'.
> Do you all know the song? (eaaaazeeeeee...)
"Baagon mein bahaar hai...?" from 'Aaradhana'. But what's this
'jhonny' business all about?
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Mere humsafar geet haiN mere - Dharam-karam??
Mere humsafar meethi baateN yaad karo - Kishan-Kanhaiya
Mere jeevan sathi - old song
Mere jeevan sathi - ek duje ke liye
Mere nayna saavan bhado - Mehbooba
Mere nayna tere nayna - Some Anil-Meenakhshi movie
Mere nayna tere naynoN se - Sangeet??
Akele haiN chale aao -
Akele haiN to kya ghum hai - QSQT
The closest match can be found here, although not in first line of mukhDa :
doori na rahe koi aaj itne kareeb aao
maiN tum maiN samaa jaooN tum mujh maiN samaa jao
and
ye waqt na kho jaye bas aaj ye ho jaye
maiN tum maiN samaaaaaaaaaaaa jaooN tum mujh maiN samaa jao
( from Raste pyar ke )
--
Kuntal.
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| Tere jahaN maiN aisa nahiN ke pyar na ho
| jahaN ummeed ho is ki wahaN nahiN milta
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Harish Suvarna
desh...@isip01.isip.msstate.edu (Neeraj Deshmukh - The Falcon) wrote:
>In article <4p4s1e$r...@fido.asd.sgi.com> Harish Suvarna <sundu> writes:
>
>> .....No No No....Yes..errrrrrrr...No No No....
>
> You *had* to do that on top of everything, right? ;-)
Neeraj Miyaa, did not understand this. You mean to say one has to
definitely say at least 1 No before 1 Yes?
>
>> Slip of Tongue is sometimes beatiful.
>
> :-) Slip of keyboard often isn't... Caught between 'beatific'
>and 'beautiful', huh? :-) Just picking... ;-)
Tum to hasmukh hoga, deshmukh :-)
>
>> There are no sweeter 'lafz' for a lover to hear than 'I like you
>> very much' from his 'jhonny'. But 'jhonny' is very careful in saying
>> 'yes' to those 'lafz'.
>
>> So if the guy is smart, he can extract these 'lafz' from his 'jonny'
>> using Slip of Tongue. Well, one of our hindi film songs is fully
>> like this. Guy is smart. In the end he gets a 'yes' for the 'lafz'.
>
>> Do you all know the song? (eaaaazeeeeee...)
>
> "Baagon mein bahaar hai...?" from 'Aaradhana'. But what's this
>'jhonny' business all about?
>
Jhonny Nahin maalum?
(derived from hindi 'jaan') is general nickname
used for 'voh waali'.
Your guess is correct. But after Nitin's 'asmaani ya aasmaani' we might get
a different song too.
Neeraj Malhotra
Kuntal came up with quite a few ( The same MukhaDa )
Here is one more to add :
Teri duniya se, hoke majboor chala, main bahut door.....
Teri duniya se door, chala hoke majboor, humein yaad rakhna...
The first few words are essentially the same - just
placed differently.
- NM.
Kuntal Shah
>>>>> "Harish" == Harish Suvarna <sundu> writes:
Harish> .....No No No....Yes..errrrrrrr...No No No.... Slip of
Harish> Tongue is sometimes beatiful.
Harish> There are no sweeter 'lafz' for a lover to hear than 'I
Harish> like you very much' from his 'jhonny'. But 'jhonny' is
Harish> very careful in saying 'yes' to those 'lafz'. So if the
Harish> guy is smart, he can extract these 'lafz' from his 'jonny'
Harish> using Slip of Tongue. Well, one of our hindi film songs is
Harish> fully like this. Guy is smart. In the end he gets a 'yes'
Harish> for the 'lafz'.
Harish> Do you all know the song? (eaaaazeeeeee...)
Are, aaj to somvaar nahiN hai... :)
vipa
Vishnu Khemka wrote:
>
> Harish Suvarna (sundu) wrote:
> : Alright friends.
>
> : Tell me the 'different' songs you know which begin with same line
> : in the mukhda. I know only one such set. There might be more.
How about the song from Milan and Bobby which goes like:
Hum Tum, Yug yug se yeh geet milan ke.....
(Nutan and Sunil Dutt in Milan)
and
Hum Tum, Ek kamare mein bandh ho......
(Dimple and Rishi in Bobby)
Vipa
Ketan
On 6 Jun 1996, Neeraj Deshmukh - The Falcon wrote:
> In article <4p4s1e$r...@fido.asd.sgi.com> Harish Suvarna <sundu> writes:
>
> > There are no sweeter 'lafz' for a lover to hear than 'I like you
> > very much' from his 'jhonny'. But 'jhonny' is very careful in saying
> > 'yes' to those 'lafz'.
>
> > So if the guy is smart, he can extract these 'lafz' from his 'jonny'
> > using Slip of Tongue. Well, one of our hindi film songs is fully
> > like this. Guy is smart. In the end he gets a 'yes' for the 'lafz'.
>
> > Do you all know the song? (eaaaazeeeeee...)
>
> "Baagon mein bahaar hai...?" from 'Aaradhana'. But what's this
> 'jhonny' business all about?
Me thinks, he is talking about "Pal bhar ke liye koi hame pyaar kar le"
at the end of which the guy does get the gal. "Jhonny" might therefore
be Johny mera naam.
Ketan
A Dev-KK-Burman fan(atic)
NIsha
In <4p4s1e$r...@fido.asd.sgi.com> Harish Suvarna <sundu> writes:
>
>.....No No No....Yes..errrrrrrr...No No No....
>
>There are no sweeter 'lafz' for a lover to hear than 'I like you very
much'
>from his 'jhonny'. But 'jhonny' is very careful in saying 'yes' to
those
>'lafz'.
>So if the guy is smart, he can extract these 'lafz' from his 'jonny'
using
>Slip of Tongue. Well, one of our hindi film songs is fully like this.
Guy is
>smart. In the end he gets a 'yes' for the 'lafz'.
>
>Do you all know the song? (eaaaazeeeeee...)
>
DON'T KNOW IF THE ANSWER HAS BEEN POSTED my only recolection is Bagon
Me Bahar He.. from Aradhana
Sameet Agarwal
In article <4p6lts$2...@progress.bedford.progress.com>,
malh...@bedford.progress.com says...
Here is another pair of songs which have exactly the same words arranged
differently.
Dil diwaana bin sajana ke maane na (MPK)
Diwana dil bin sajana ke maane na maane na (Phool Aur Patthar (?))
Sameet
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rebala gopinath
In article <4p4t37$a...@progress.bedford.progress.com>,
Neeraj Malhotra <malh...@bedford.progress.com> wrote:
> 1. Ek do teen, char paanch che saat aath nau dus, gyaarah, baarah terah
> 2. Ek do teen, chaar aur paanch, che aur saat, aath aur no
> WAHEEDA REHMAN on the screen - don't know the movie.
This is from "Kagaz ke phool". Waheeda leaves films and goes to a village
and is teaching kids in this song.
Kalyan
Harish Suvarna
kun...@india.ti.com (Kuntal Shah) wrote:
>
>
> Mere humsafar geet haiN mere - Dharam-karam??
> Mere humsafar meethi baateN yaad karo - Kishan-Kanhaiya
>
sorry kuntal, dont lnow both these songs.
> Mere jeevan sathi - old song
> Mere jeevan sathi - ek duje ke liye
dont know the old song.
>
> Mere nayna saavan bhado - Mehbooba
> Mere nayna tere nayna - Some Anil-Meenakhshi movie
> Mere nayna tere naynoN se - Sangeet??
dont know the later two songs
>
> Akele haiN chale aao -
> Akele haiN to kya ghum hai - QSQT
Yes !!
>
>
>
> The closest match can be found here, although not in first line of mukhDa :
>
> doori na rahe koi aaj itne kareeb aao
> maiN tum maiN samaa jaooN tum mujh maiN samaa jao
>
> and
>
> ye waqt na kho jaye bas aaj ye ho jaye
> maiN tum maiN samaaaaaaaaaaaa jaooN tum mujh maiN samaa jao
> ( from Raste pyar ke )
This is interesting.
Thanx.
--
Kuntal M Daftary
mere mehboob qayamat hogi...
mere mehboob tujhe meri muhobbat ki kasam...
--
bye for now...
kuntal
yeh hamari badnaseebi jo nahin to aur kyaa hai
ke usi ke ho gaye hum jo na ho sakaa hamaraa...
Harish Suvarna
kun...@india.ti.com (Kuntal Shah) wrote:
>
> Harish> Do you all know the song? (eaaaazeeeeee...)
>
> Are, aaj to somvaar nahiN hai... :)
Accchhccha? :-)
S.Jagadish
> Your guess is correct. But after Nitin's 'asmaani ya aasmaani' we might get
> a different song too.
In the Do Diwaane song, there isnt exactly a correction by the 2nd singer. Its
more of a clarification ... wonder if it fits in with the qn !
Harish Suvarna
sf91...@gamma.ntu.ac.sg (S.Jagadish) wrote:
>> Your guess is correct. But after Nitin's 'asmaani ya aasmaani' we might get
>> a different song too.
>
>In the Do Diwaane song, there isnt exactly a correction by the 2nd singer. Its
>more of a clarification ... wonder if it fits in with the qn !
>
Does'nt one voice (female) correct explicitly? I remmeber so so. Don't have
the song now with me. That too it should happen twice, one each in
the antaraas. Is'nt it?
Pradeep Dubey
This is getting more and more interesting.
From three words (teri duniya se) now we are down
to two words (hum tum). Pretty soon, ISB will
let me participate too. For example, here are
the songs with "tere mere":
tere mere liye, tAro.n ke diye
tere mere milan kii ye rainaa, nayaa koI gul khila
tere mere sapane ab ek ra.ng hai.n
tere mere beech mein, kaisa hai ...
Pretty soon we will be down to one word :-)
Pradeep
|>
|> Vipa
Harish Suvarna
> Harish> sorry kuntal, dont know both these songs.
>
> First is quite wellknown - by Mukesh, I think.
Is it
Hum safar mere Hum safar
pankh tum aur parchain hum
zindagi ke....
>
> Second one appears in Kishen-Kanhaiya when Madhuri is tring to bring
> Anil's "yaddasht" back. She also does yodelling, "Andaaz" style.
I have seen kishan kanhayya. But can't remember the song at all.
Thanx for all the follow up Kuntal.
I wish there are songs having a
big start line as common, written by different lyricysts, sung by different singers
and composed by different MDs with different tunes, but filmed on same actor
in different films with different heroines in same location but different dresses,
and different dances and the film is released in different years and same song gets
the filmfare award both years ..............and after some years................
Tha damn thing will definitely originate a big thread in RMIM with the subject
heading being 'A Small Gk Q'.
:-)))
Mili
In article <4p0kfi$h...@fido.asd.sgi.com> Harish Suvarna <sundu> writes:
>From: Harish Suvarna <sundu>
>Subject: A Small GK Q
>Date: 4 Jun 1996 06:18:26 GMT
>Alright friends.
>Normally when we see a line of song we remember that tune and
>we are tuned. It is very difficult to jump from that tune
>to another tune. It happens especially when we are hearing
>a classical peace and suddenly we know that 'aree there is a
>song of this kind' and we will be in that damned loop.
>But to our creative MDs this is not a problem at all.
>Tell me the 'different' songs you know which begin with same line
>in the mukhda. I know only one such set. There might be more.
>--
>how about kaise mukhde se nazaren haataon...from EBDM?
Kuntal Shah
>>>>> "Harish" == Harish Suvarna <sundu> writes:
>> Mere humsafar geet haiN mere - Dharam-karam??
>> Mere humsafar meethi baateN yaad karo - Kishan-Kanhaiya
>>
Harish> sorry kuntal, dont know both these songs.
First is quite wellknown - by Mukesh, I think.
Second one appears in Kishen-Kanhaiya when Madhuri is tring to bring
Anil's "yaddasht" back. She also does yodelling, "Andaaz" style.
Nitin Sharma
Harish Suvarna (sundu) wrote:
: Is it
: Hum safar mere Hum safar
: pankh tum aur parchain hum
^^^^^^^^^
: zindagi ke....
: >
its parvaaz, not parchhain.
-nitin
Kuntal Shah
>>>>> "Harish" == Harish Suvarna <sundu> writes:
Harish> Is it Hum safar mere Hum safar pankh tum aur parchain
Harish> hum zindagi ke....
Nope. I meant :
Mere humsafar geet haiN mere
geet hi to jeevan meet haiN mere
( Not sure about the words though )
>> Second one appears in Kishen-Kanhaiya when Madhuri is tring to
>> bring Anil's "yaddasht" back. She also does yodelling, "Andaaz"
>> style.
Harish> I have seen kishan kanhayya. But can't remember the
That song has Madhuri at her best in the movie. It goes like this :
Mere humsafar
meethi baateN yaad karo
mulakateN yaad karo
jo saath gujare the
din raat wo yaad karo
humraaz hamare
kya hai dil maiN tumhare
are kuchh to yaad karo
mere humsafar.....
yodlei yodlei yoi yodlei yodlei yo ( Andaaz style )
Ashok
In article <4p9du2$m...@watnews1.watson.ibm.com>, pra...@watson.ibm.comf says...
>
>In article <31B707...@pwa.acusd.edu>, vipa <tvip...@pwa.acusd.edu> writes:
>|> Vishnu Khemka wrote:
>|> >
>|> > Harish Suvarna (sundu) wrote:
>|> > : in the mukhda. I know only one such set. There might be more.
>|> Hum Tum, Yug yug se yeh geet milan ke.....
>
>From three words (teri duniya se) now we are down
>to two words (hum tum).
>
>
>Pradeep
And then there were none!
Let us reverse the trend before it gets there! Take the following
as a quiz, folks. Develop the phrases into complete lines of the
mukhaDaa and/or provide P-stats.
1. A. dil DhooNDhataa hai ... ...
B. dil DhooNdhataa hai .. .. .... . .. ..
Hint: Pradeep will have to look earlier than he'd be inclined to.
'A.' is a Mukesh solo, composed by Dattaram.
2. A. jo mai.n jaanati .. . .. .. .. . ... ..
B. jo mai.n jaanati .... . ..
Hint: Sami will have to look earlier, as well as where he would be
reluctant to look!
Both Lata solos.
3. A. chhoTaa sa ghar ..
B. chhoTaa sa ghar ...
Hint: Pradeep will have to look ahead, but won't mind!
The later song is a Lata solo with RDB.
4. A. ham tum se mohabbat kar ke sanam ... . .. .. . ..
B. ham tum se mohabbat kar ke sanam ... . ... .. ..
Hint: Both Mukesh solos. One of them is composed by CR and the other
by S-J. One of them is superb the other is so so, not necessarily
in that order.
5. A. .. .., meri sapano.n ki rani
B. meri sapano.n ki rani .. ... ..
C. meri sapano.n ki rani .. .. ..
Hint: 'A.' is a duet with Saigal and Rafi.
6. A. ***** jee chaahataa hai choom lu.n tasaveer aap ki
B. jee chaahataa hai kheench lu.n tasaveer aap ki
C. . ... .. .. ... .. aap ki
jee chaahataa hai kheench lu.n tasaveer aap ki
Hint: Two are qawwaalis, one is a title song, sung by Rafi.
7. A. (prelude)
bahaare.n phir bhi aaengi, ... .. .. .. ..
B. ***** bahaare.n phir bhi aaengi
8. A. more nainaa saavan bhaado.n, .. ... ..
B. mere nainaa saavan bhaado.n. .. . .. .. ..
Hint: This just tests how carefully you read RMIM!
9. A. phir vohi chand vohi ham vohi tanahaayi hai, ***
B. phir vohi shaam vohi Gam vohi tanahaayi hai, ***
10. A. zindagi ke safar me.n ... . ..
B. zindagi ke safar me.n .. .. .
Hint: One is a Rafi solo, composed by Ravi.
11. A. aa jaa ri aa nindiyaa . .
B. aa jaa ri aa nindiyaa .. . .. . . .
Hints: Both are Lata solos.
12. A. .. . pardaa rukh-e-roshan se haTaana ..
B. pardaa rukh-e-roshan se haTaana ..,
Hints: 'A.' is a Talat-Asha and Asha tandem.
'B.' is a Lata solo.
13. A. man mor machaave shor .. .... .
B. man mor machaave shor
Hints: One is a Lata-Geeta duet.
14. A. meri laaj raakho giridhaari
B. meri path raakho giridhaari
C. ***** meri path raakho bhagawaan
Hints: Lata; Lata; and Hemant-Lata-chorus, respectively.
15. A. mere pyar me.n tujhe kya mila, .. .. ...
B. mere pyar me.n tujhe kya mila, .. .. . .. . .. ..
Hints: Perhaps Snehal and Chetan should trade notes.
16. A. ye kaun aayaa .
B. ye kaun aayaa
C. ye kaun aayaa ... . .. .... .. . .. .
Hints: KK fans, OPN fans, and Naushad fans are on line.
17. A. ghar aayaa mera paradesi, .. .. .. .... .
B. ghar aayaa mera paradesi, ... .. ..
18. A. sharm aati hai ... .. . ... ..
B. sharm aati hai .. ..
19. A. na jaane kyon
B. na jaane kyon
C. na jaane kyon
Hints: Rafi, Lata, Lata; OPN, RDB, SC.
20. A. o mere sanam, . .. ...
B. o mere sanam, .. .. ..
Hints: 'B.' is a Lata-KK duet.
21. A. mohammad shah rangeele
B. mohammad shah rangeele
Hints: One is a Rafi-Lata duet and the other, a Manna Dey solo.
22. A. aae na baalam, kaa karoo.n sajani
B. aae na baalam, kaa karoo.n sajani
Hint: One is a duet with Lata and Rafi.
23. A. laagi naahi chhooTe rama chaahe jiya jaae
B. laagi naahi chhooTe rama chaahe jiya jaae
Hints: Just give the male singer with Lata for each song.
24. A. kajaraa lagaa ke, gajaraa sajaa ke
B. kajaraa lagaa ke, bindiya sajaa ke
Hints: Both Lata solos.
25. A. *****, saavan ke jhoole paDe
B. saavan ke jhoole paDe
Hints: The earlier song is a Talat-Lata duet.
26. A. **** mehandi lagi mere hath
B. mehandi lagi mere hath
27. A. Thehar zaraa o jaanevaale
B. Thehar zaraa o jaanevaale
Hints: The earlier song is a Lata-Rafi duet.
28. A. chhoTi si ye duniyaa
B. chhoTi si ye duniyaa
Hints: The earlier one is a KK/Lata tandem, the later one is
a Gulzar song.
29. A. dil me.n kisi ke pyar ka
B. dil me.n kisi ke pyar ka
Hints: Sami seems to be the guy for the latter also, though it's a
Ravi song.
30. A. tum ko dekha to
B. tum ko dekha to
Hints: Both came at about the same time. The later one is perhaps
one of the last Sahir films, with music by L-P.
31. A. ye kaun aaj aaya ... ...
B. ye kaun aaj aaya .. .. ...
Hints: The later one is Lata and chorus singing, for RDB.
Ashok
rebala gopinath
Thanks Ashok for a great quiz. Perhaps the best I've seen in RMIM.
I wish you had mentioned a long enough time limit and no postings
on the ng (like RJGK's etc) and it would have been fun to hunt down
the songs. Here're some anyway.
In article <4pie04$i...@doc.zippo.com>, Ashok <ADhar...@WorldBank.Org> wrote:
>
>And then there were none!
>
>Let us reverse the trend before it gets there! Take the following
>as a quiz, folks. Develop the phrases into complete lines of the
>mukhaDaa and/or provide P-stats.
>
>3. A. chhoTaa sa ghar ..
> B. chhoTaa sa ghar ...
>
>Hint: Pradeep will have to look ahead, but won't mind!
> The later song is a Lata solo with RDB.
I think this is a Rekha-Vinod Khanna starrer which also has
the song "Aaj kal paon zameen par nahin padte mere". There is
also one in Darr with same beginning.
>
>5. A. .. .., meri sapano.n ki rani
> B. meri sapano.n ki rani .. ... ..
> C. meri sapano.n ki rani .. .. ..
>
>Hint: 'A.' is a duet with Saigal and Rafi.
That would be Saigal invoking "Roohi meri roohi" :-) Where was Rafi?
>
>
>9. A. phir vohi chand vohi ham vohi tanahaayi hai, ***
> B. phir vohi shaam vohi Gam vohi tanahaayi hai, ***
The first one is from CR's Baarish. Since both songs are by Rajendra
Krishan I guess it's ok. And the less popular one (A) came first
letting RK improvise :-)
>
>16. A. ye kaun aayaa .
> B. ye kaun aayaa
> C. ye kaun aayaa ... . .. .... .. . .. .
>
>Hints: KK fans, OPN fans, and Naushad fans are on line.
A is Lata-KK duet from KP's Ziddi. There's also one in Waqt.
>
>24. A. kajaraa lagaa ke, gajaraa sajaa ke
> B. kajaraa lagaa ke, bindiya sajaa ke
>
>Hints: Both Lata solos.
B is from LP's "Jal bin .....".
>
Maybe I'll avoid looking at the responses to this one.
Kalyan
Harish Suvarna
Wow, Wow, Wow Ashok.
It will be very very interesting for many of us to find what the
'other' songs are.
Thanx a lot.
-Harish
Pavan Kumar Desikan
Ashok (ADhar...@WorldBank.Org) wrote:
: Let us reverse the trend before it gets there! Take the following
: as a quiz, folks. Develop the phrases into complete lines of the
: mukhaDaa and/or provide P-stats.
: 2. A. jo mai.n jaanati .. . .. .. .. . ... ..
: B. jo mai.n jaanati .... . ..
: Hint: Sami will have to look earlier, as well as where he would be
: reluctant to look!
: Both Lata solos.
from Baiju Bawra(bhool gaye saanwariyaa)
and Aah - jo main jaanti unke liye
: 12. A. .. . pardaa rukh-e-roshan se haTaana ..
: B. pardaa rukh-e-roshan se haTaana ..,
: Hints: 'A.' is a Talat-Asha and Asha tandem.
Pyaas kuch aur bhi bhaDkaa kii jhalak
: 'B.' is a Lata solo.
: 16. A. ye kaun aayaa .
: B. ye kaun aayaa
: C. ye kaun aayaa ... . .. .... .. . .. .
: Hints: KK fans, OPN fans, and Naushad fans are on line.
A. ye kaun aaya raushan ho gayii - saathi
B. ye kaun aaya ki mere dil ki duniyaa mein - baazi
: 27. A. Thehar zaraa o jaanevaale
: B. Thehar zaraa o jaanevaale
: Hints: The earlier song is a Lata-Rafi duet.
from Awara and from Bootpolish?
: Ashok
--
Pavan Kumar Desikan
Department of Computer Science, Duke University, Durham, NC 27708-0129
Internet: p...@cs.duke.edu
HTTP : http://www.cs.duke.edu/~pkd
Nitin Sharma
great quiz!
a correction, pavan.
Pavan Kumar Desikan (p...@cs.duke.edu) wrote:
: : Let us reverse the trend before it gets there! Take the following
: : as a quiz, folks. Develop the phrases into complete lines of the
: : mukhaDaa and/or provide P-stats.
: : 2. A. jo mai.n jaanati .. . .. .. .. . ... ..
: : B. jo mai.n jaanati .... . ..
: : Hint: Sami will have to look earlier, as well as where he would be
: : reluctant to look!
: : Both Lata solos.
: from Baiju Bawra(bhool gaye saanwariyaa)
: and Aah - jo main jaanti unke liye
The one from baiju bawra starts off as "jo maiN *aisa* jaanti, ki
preet ki ye... " So, probably this doesnt qualify.
The song (i think) Ashok is looking for is another Naushad gem (from shabab?),
jo maiN jaanati bisarat haiN saiNyyAN, ghungtaa men..."
-nitin
Harish Suvarna
Let me identify at least few A's friends. This is really great Quiz.
ADhar...@WorldBank.Org (Ashok) wrote:
>1. A. dil DhooNDhataa hai ... ...
> B. dil DhooNdhataa hai .. .. .... . .. ..
One is by Bhupinder or Suresh waadkar and the other is by LM I think. One is
definitely by jayadev.
dil dhhondtha hai fursat se raat din..
>4. A. ham tum se mohabbat kar ke sanam ... . .. .. . ..
> B. ham tum se mohabbat kar ke sanam ... . ... .. ..
>
>Hint: Both Mukesh solos. One of them is composed by CR and the other
> by S-J. One of them is superb the other is so so, not necessarily
> in that order.
ofcourse awwara.
>6. A. ***** jee chaahataa hai choom lu.n tasaveer aap ki
> B. jee chaahataa hai kheench lu.n tasaveer aap ki
> C. . ... .. .. ... .. aap ki
> jee chaahataa hai kheench lu.n tasaveer aap ki
>
Ashok , how about CR's
jee chaahata hai ab to .. by LM?
>9. A. phir vohi chand vohi ham vohi tanahaayi hai, ***
> B. phir vohi shaam vohi Gam vohi tanahaayi hai, ***
B by Talat in Jahan aara
>14. A. meri laaj raakho giridhaari
> B. meri path raakho giridhaari
> C. ***** meri path raakho bhagawaan
>Hints: Lata; Lata; and Hemant-Lata-chorus, respectively.
>
At least one version must be from a film of Mahabharat !! :-)
>15. A. mere pyar me.n tujhe kya mila, .. .. ...
> B. mere pyar me.n tujhe kya mila, .. .. . .. .
..... aalam guzar gaya... Mukesh. is it ?
>19. A. na jaane kyon
> B. na jaane kyon
> C. na jaane kyon
>Hints: Rafi, Lata, Lata; OPN, RDB, SC.
..... hota hai ye zindagi me eisa.. achaanak.... Must be of SC.
>
>20. A. o mere sanam, . .. ...
> B. o mere sanam, .. .. ..
>
>Hints: 'B.' is a Lata-KK duet.
ek dil hai hum do jaan hai... Lata solo??
>22. A. aae na baalam, kaa karoo.n sajani
> B. aae na baalam, kaa karoo.n sajani
>Hint: One is a duet with Lata and Rafi.
The other is by Yesudaas.
>27. A. Thehar zaraa o jaanevaale
> B. Thehar zaraa o jaanevaale
Is one from Mother India?
.......Maata bula rahin hai tumhe haath jodkar...
>28. A. chhoTi si ye duniyaa
> B. chhoTi si ye duniyaa
>
KK/lata tandem: ..kahin to milegi kabhi to milegi ...
>
>30. A. tum ko dekha to
> B. tum ko dekha to
>
.. yeh khayaal aaya zindagi dhup aur tum ghana saaya..
The other could be SPB song
'.. milne ki tamanna hai aur ye iraada hai'
DB is totally mixing friends. What is the other song
'... eisaaaaaaan laga ...' one female version
-harish
NIsha
And then there were none!
Let us reverse the trend before it gets there! Take the following
as a quiz, folks. Develop the phrases into complete lines of the
mukhaDaa and/or provide P-stats.
1. A. dil DhooNDhataa hai ... ...
B. dil DhooNdhataa hai .. .. .... . .. ..
dIL dhoondhatta hai fursat
2. A. jo mai.n jaanati .. . .. .. .. . ... ..
B. jo mai.n jaanati .... . ..
I thought it was mohe bhul gaye savaria...
3. A. chhoTaa sa ghar ..
B. chhoTaa sa ghar ...
chootaa sa ghar hai yeh magar... Darr
5. A. .. .., meri sapano.n ki rani
B. meri sapano.n ki rani .. ... ..
C. meri sapano.n ki rani .. .. ..
kab aye ge tu, bete jaye zindgani kab aye gi tu: aradhana
8. A. more nainaa saavan bhaado.n, .. ... ..
B. mere nainaa saavan bhaado.n. .. . .. .. ..
b. mere nainaa saavan bhaado.n, phir bhi mera man pyasa
10. A. zindagi ke safar me.n ... . ..
B. zindagi ke safar me.n .. .. .
a. ... guzar jate hei jo makam, voh phir nahin ate... app ki kasam
16. A. ye kaun aayaa .
B. ye kaun aayaa
C. ye kaun aayaa ... . .. .... .. . .. .
ye kaun aayaa, roshan ho gai mehfil jis ke naam se... Saathi
Hints: KK fans, OPN fans, and Naushad fans are on line.
17. A. ghar aayaa mera paradesi, .. .. .. .... .
B. ghar aayaa mera paradesi, ... .. ..
.... aasa bhuji mere akhiyan kii... nagin?
18. A. sharm aati hai ... .. . ... ..
B. sharm aati hai .. ..
..... magar aaj yeh kehna ho ga, ab hame aaap ke kadamo.n hi meh rehna
hoga
19. A. na jaane kyon
B. na jaane kyon
C. na jaane kyon
Hints: Rafi, Lata, Lata; OPN, RDB, SC.
..hota yeh zindagi ki sath, achnak ... Choti si baat
20. A. o mere sanam, . .. ...
B. o mere sanam, .. .. ..
.... do jism magar ik jaan hey ham, ik dil ke do arman hey ham..
Hints: 'B.' is a Lata-KK duet.
22. A. aae na baalam, kaa karoo.n sajani
B. aae na baalam, kaa karoo.n sajani
Hint: One is a duet with Lata and Rafi.
isn’t the other by yesudas...shabana azmi, in the movie, good movie
25. A. *****, saavan ke jhoole paDe
B. saavan ke jhoole paDe
.... tum chale aao, tum chale aoo, anchal na chade mera, pagal hoi hey
pavan
Hints: The earlier song is a Talat-Lata duet.
28. A. chhoTi si ye duniyaa
B. chhoTi si ye duniyaa
pehchane raste hai tum kahin to milo ge, to puche ge hal
29. A. dil me.n kisi ke pyar ka
B. dil me.n kisi ke pyar ka
jalta hua diya-- duniya ki andhiyo se bhala yeh bhuje ga kya: ek mahal
ho sapano ka
here is my guess
Nisha
Kuntal Shah
>>>>> "Harish" == Harish Suvarna <sundu> writes:
>> 20. A. o mere sanam, . .. ...
>> B. o mere sanam, .. .. ..
>>
>> Hints: 'B.' is a Lata-KK duet.
There is one more "O mere sanam", which I am sure is not considered here
by Ashok, (as) it has music by Anu Malik.
Any takers ?
Harish Suvarna
ni...@cs.washington.edu (Nitin Sharma) wrote:
> great quiz!
>
> a correction, pavan.
>
>Pavan Kumar Desikan (p...@cs.duke.edu) wrote:
>
>
>: : as a quiz, folks. Develop the phrases into complete lines of the
>: : mukhaDaa and/or provide P-stats.
>
>: : B. jo mai.n jaanati .... . ..
>
>: : Hint: Sami will have to look earlier, as well as where he would be
>: : reluctant to look!
>: : Both Lata solos.
>: and Aah - jo main jaanti unke liye
>
> The one from baiju bawra starts off as "jo maiN *aisa* jaanti, ki
>preet ki ye... " So, probably this doesnt qualify.
>
> The song (i think) Ashok is looking for is another Naushad gem (from shabab?),
>
> jo maiN jaanati bisarat haiN saiNyyAN, ghungtaa men..."
>
> -nitin
Yes, There is one in shabab Naushad, Lata. It is there in the casset
Magic Moments of lata.
NBhatnagar
Or
Ek do teen chaar, Bhaiya bano hoshiyar
Sab ka hai kehna, anpadh na rehna
jaao guruji ke dwaar
Sung by Lata - don't remember any other details
Vishnu Khemka
: 23. A. laagi naahi chhooTe rama chaahe jiya jaae
: B. laagi naahi chhooTe rama chaahe jiya jaae
: Hints: Just give the male singer with Lata for each song.
I wonder if you are refering to the song:
Laagi choote na, aab to sanam, chahe jaaye jiyaaa, teri kasam.
: 28. A. chhoTi si ye duniyaa
: B. chhoTi si ye duniyaa
: Hints: The earlier one is a KK/Lata tandem, the later one is
: a Gulzar song.
chhoTi si ye duniya pehchaane raate hain, tum kahin to miloge,
kabhee to miloge, to puchchenge haal.
: 29. A. dil me.n kisi ke pyar ka
: B. dil me.n kisi ke pyar ka
: Hints: Sami seems to be the guy for the latter also, though it's a
: Ravi song.
By any chance, are you refering to the song:
Dil mein chhupa ke pyaar ka tufan le chale, aaj hum apni maut ka saaman
le chale ...., maut ka saaman le chale.
--
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Preetham Gopalaswamy
Harish Suvarna <su...@cc.gatech.edu> writes :
>
> We had a big thread on 'More Women Songs'. Lots of songs
> in which two or 3 singers sang together came out. There were
> songs of Lata/Asha, Lata/Usha, Asha/Usha etc.
>
> Is there a song where 3 or 4 Mangeshkars sang? Which One ?
> It can be chorus too.
>
> (I know only one song by 3)
I don't know if there are several, but there is certainly atleast 3 for sure
that I can remember off the top of my head.
1] Song : Duniya me ham aaye haiN to jeena hi paDega
Film : Mother India
*ring : Nargis, Sunil Dutt, Rajendra Kumar, Raj Kumar
Music : Naushad
2] Song : Cannot remember off the top of my head
Film : Teen BahuraniaN
*ring : Sowcar Janaki, Jayanti, Shashikala,
: Ramesh Deo, Agha, Prithviraj Kapoor
Music : Kalyanji - Anandji
3] Song : Dulhan maike chali
Film : Manoranjan
*ring : Zeenat Aman, Sanjeev Kumar
Music : R. D. Burman
There are other examples of such songs, but these are the first to come to
mind.
P
Harish Suvarna
We had a big thread on 'More Women Songs'. Lots of songs
in which two or 3 singers sang together came out. There were
songs of Lata/Asha, Lata/Usha, Asha/Usha etc.
Is there a song where 3 or 4 Mangeshkars sang? Which One ?
It can be chorus too.
(I know only one song by 3)
-Harish
Deepa Karemungikar
Harish Suvarna wrote:
> .....No No No....Yes..errrrrrrr...No No No....
> Slip of Tongue is sometimes beatiful.
> There are no sweeter 'lafz' for a lover to hear than 'I like you very
> much' from his 'jhonny'. But 'jhonny' is very careful in saying 'yes'
> to those 'lafz'.
> Do you all know the song? (eaaaazeeeeee...)
BUT Of Course, Rajesh Khanna and Farida Jalal (forgot the movie name)
And the song excerpts :
R: Aaj somwaar hai ...
F: Hai
Shyam Uttarwar
The song you are talking about is "Bagon mein bahar hai..." from Aradhana.
- Shyam
Shetty
>Harish Suvarna <sundu> wrote:
>-Harish
How about
" Hasta hua noorani chehra, kaali zulphein rang sunehra
meri jawaani tauba tauba re...dilrubaaaaa dirubaaaa "
Me thinks it sung by Lata/Asha/Usha....
-Naveen
Vandana
In article <4pmr81$b...@ka.worldbank.org>, NBhatnagar says...
Missed the earlier postings in this thread, hence do not know the context.
But thought I would share the details of this song, which struck me as a
very unusual Lata composition by LP the first time I heard it. Lata's voice
is very young and crisp. It must be a very early Lata-LP combo and I haven't
heard many in that category, maybe that's why I find this unusual.
Here are the details anyway:
Song: Ek do teen char bhaiya bano hoshiyaar
Movie: Sant Gyaneshwar
Music: Laxmikant Pyarelal
Lyrics: Bharat Vyas
Vandana Venkatesan.
Pradeep Dubey
In article <1996061401...@sangeet.connectinc.com>, Preetham Gopalaswamy <pree...@connectinc.com> writes:
|> Harish Suvarna <su...@cc.gatech.edu> writes :
|> >
|> > We had a big thread on 'More Women Songs'. Lots of songs
|> > in which two or 3 singers sang together came out. There were
|> > songs of Lata/Asha, Lata/Usha, Asha/Usha etc.
|> >
|> > Is there a song where 3 or 4 Mangeshkars sang? Which One ?
|> > It can be chorus too.
|> >
|> > (I know only one song by 3)
|>
|> that I can remember off the top of my head.
|>
|> 1] Song : Duniya me ham aaye haiN to jeena hi paDega
|> Film : Mother India
|> *ring : Nargis, Sunil Dutt, Rajendra Kumar, Raj Kumar
|> Music : Naushad
|>
|> 2] Song : Cannot remember off the top of my head
|> Film : Teen BahuraniaN
|> *ring : Sowcar Janaki, Jayanti, Shashikala,
|> : Ramesh Deo, Agha, Prithviraj Kapoor
|> Music : Kalyanji - Anandji
This may be the first time this movie got mentioned
on RMIM. Thanks Preetham, I have known this movie
only in the context of the following song, now I even know
who all acted in it! So is this the song you had in mind:
aamdani athanni kharchaa rupaiyaa
?? bhaiyaa na poochho na poochho haal
nateeja Than Than gopal
Pradeep
Ashok
In article <4q9usi$14...@watnews1.watson.ibm.com>, pra...@watson.ibm.com says...
>
>In article <1996061401...@sangeet.connectinc.com>, Preetham Gopalaswamy
<pree...@connectinc.com> writes:
>|> Harish Suvarna <su...@cc.gatech.edu> writes :
>|> >
>|> > It can be chorus too.
>|> >
>|> > (I know only one song by 3)
>|>
>|> I don't know if there are several, but there is certainly atleast 3 for sure
>|> that I can remember off the top of my head.
>|>
>|>
>|> Film : Teen BahuraniaN
>|> *ring : Sowcar Janaki, Jayanti, Shashikala,
>|> : Ramesh Deo, Agha, Prithviraj Kapoor
>|> Music : Kalyanji - Anandji
>
>This may be the first time this movie got mentioned
>on RMIM. Thanks Preetham, I have known this movie
>only in the context of the following song, now I even know
>who all acted in it! So is this the song you had in mind:
>
>aamdani athanni kharchaa rupaiyaa
>?? bhaiyaa na poochho na poochho haal
>nateeja Than Than gopal
>
>Pradeep
Pradeep: Right number, but wrong person. :)) The 'Than Than gopal' earsore
is indeed from 'Teen Bahuraniyan,' but it is not a three-sisters song. It is
sung by Asha, Mahendra Kapoor, and Kamal Baarot. (Some might say it *is* sung
by three sissies :)) I think the song sung by Lata, Asha, and Usha is
"hamre aangan bagiyaa, bagiyaa mein do panchhi" something like that.
Wasn't Shashikala the 'saas' in this film? I think the third 'bahuraani' was
also a Telugu actress, Kanchana.
Ashok
Ashok
In article <4q479l$s...@doc.zippo.com>, vven...@pcocd2.intel.com says...
The thread was about songs tat start with similar words. This was one of
the songs to have the opening words 123.
Lata's voice sounding incredibly young was deliberate I think. I remember
hearing from frieds who have seen the film that the song is picturized on
a very young girl, trying to motivate her brother to "jaao guruji ke dwaar."
Lata adopted a somewhat similar sound for the 'Main Chup Rahungi' song,
"tumhi ho mata, pita tumhi ho." That was picturized on a very young boy!
Ashok
Harish Suvarna
We have many types of Duet Songs in our Hindi Films.
Some duets stand out like
Tu Jo Mere Sur Me Sur Milaaye Sang ... To Zindagi Ho Jayee Safal..
Tere Mere Milan Ke yeh Rainaa...
In these songs, the two voices (male/female) sing alternately and
in the last antara or in between BOTH of them sing TOGETHER. It is
very nice to see Hero and Heroine BOTH singing TOGETHER suddenly.
Both love each other,then one sings for the other and then sing
together for themselves. They indicate to us that they are
going to live together for the rest of their life LOVIE-DOVIE.
But, it is rare for a duet in which both voices START TOGETHER.
Can you tell me some?
Harish
Neeraj Deshmukh - The Falcon
In article <4qhf3b$l...@fido.asd.sgi.com> Harish Suvarna <sundu>
writes:
> In these songs, the two voices (male/female) sing alternately and in
> the last antara or in between BOTH of them sing TOGETHER. It is very
> nice to see Hero and Heroine BOTH singing TOGETHER suddenly. Both
> love each other,then one sings for the other and then sing together
> for themselves. They indicate to us that they are going to live
> together for the rest of their life LOVIE-DOVIE.
> But, it is rare for a duet in which both voices START TOGETHER.
Nice observation, Harish... The kinds of really lovie-dovie
duets I find adorable are when the male and female voices alternate
every word or couple of words in the mukhaDa... For instance ---
1. suno
kaho
are kahaa
suna
kuchh hua kya?
abhi to nahii.n, kuchh bhi nahii.n...
2. a.nkhiyo.n hi
a.nkhiyo.n mein
teri meri
baat chali
baat yahaa.n tak pahu.nchii, maine tere bina jiina nahii.n soch liya...
(As most of you can easily guess, each line is sung by alternate
singers).
Ciao,
ND
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Shyam Uttarwar
>The thread was about songs tat start with similar words. This was one of
>the songs to have the opening words 123.
>
>Lata's voice sounding incredibly young was deliberate I think. I remember
>hearing from frieds who have seen the film that the song is picturized on
>a very young girl, trying to motivate her brother to "jaao guruji ke dwaar."
>
I have seen this movies some 20 years back. The song is sung on the screen
by Sant Gnaneshwar's younger sister ( 10 - 12 years) , Muktabai, addressed to
her brother. And it is "jaao guruji ke paas", if I recollect
correctly.
>Lata adopted a somewhat similar sound for the 'Main Chup Rahungi'
song,
>"tumhi ho mata, pita tumhi ho." That was picturized on a very young
boy!
>
>
There are numerous songs that Lata and Asha have sung for young
boy/girl.
In fact, in old movies most of the songs picturized on child
artists were
sung by female singers. For example:
- Phoolonka taronka sabaka kahena hai - Hare Rama Hare Krishna
sung by Lata for a young boy.
There are many more such songs. I will recollect them and post the
list later. Can anyone else do the same???
There are some notable exceptions where the song picturized on
young
boy(s)/girl(s), is actually sung by child singer(s). Here is the
list:
Nani teri morani ko mor legaya - Masoom (old)
sung by Ranu Mukharjee ( Hemant's daughter); MD : Hemant
Nanha munha rahi huan des ka sipahi huan - Son of India
sung by Shanti Mathur; MD : Naushad
Lakdi ki kaathi, kathi pe ghoda - Masoom
sung by Vanita Mishra, Gurpreet Kaur, Gauri Bapat; MD : RDB
Can some one add more in this list??
- Shyam
Shyam Uttarwar
>
> There are some notable exceptions where the song picturized on
> young boy(s)/girl(s), is actually sung by child singer(s).
> Here is the list:
>
> Nani teri morani ko mor legaya - Masoom (old)
> sung by Ranu Mukharjee ( Hemant's daughter); MD : Hemant
> Nanha munha rahi huan des ka sipahi huan - Son of India
> sung by Shanti Mathur; MD : Naushad
> Lakdi ki kaathi, kathi pe ghoda - Masoom
> sung by Vanita Mishra, Gurpreet Kaur, Gauri Bapat; MD : RDB
>
> Can some one add more in this list??
>
> - Shyam
I remembered one more:
- Dadi amma dadi amma man ja,
chhodo to ye gussa jara haske dikhana
Anyone know the pstat of this song??
- Shyam
Harish Suvarna
hi falcon,
The 1st one is not a song but a musical conversation!!!
2nd one I donot know.
-harish
Neeraj Deshmukh - The Falcon
In article <4qmq4t$d...@fido.asd.sgi.com> Harish Suvarna <sundu> writes:
> >1. suno
> > kaho
> > are kahaa
> > suna
> > kuchh hua kya?
> > abhi to nahii.n, kuchh bhi nahii.n...
> The 1st one is not a song but a musical conversation!!!
Please elaborate, Sundu --- what is the difference? IMO this
is a song all the way, even beyond the mukhaDa it continues in the
same vein ---
aha chalii
hawaa
jhukii
ghaTaa
kuchh hua kya...
Now what would you call 'baago.n me.n bahar hai' from
"Aradhana" --- a musical conversation or a song?
> 2nd one I donot know.
It is from "doosra aadmi", if I am not mistaken. Can and will
confirm...
Ashok
In article <4qimdr$m...@dfw-ixnews8.ix.netcom.com>, shy...@ix.netcom.co says...
>Song: Ek do teen char bhaiya bano hoshiyaar
>Movie: Sant Gyaneshwar
>Music: Laxmikant Pyarelal
>Lyrics: Bharat Vyas
>
>Vandana Venkatesan.
>>
>>Lata's voice sounding incredibly young was deliberate I think. I remember
>>hearing from frieds who have seen the film that the song is picturized on
>>a very young girl, trying to motivate her brother to "jaao guruji ke dwaar."
>
> I have seen this movies some 20 years back. The song is sung on the screen
> by Sant Gnaneshwar's younger sister ( 10 - 12 years) , Muktabai, addressed to
> her brother. And it is "jaao guruji ke paas", if I recollect correctly.
^^^^
Don't remember. Just thought that the lyricist might have used 'dvaar' so as to
rhyme with 'chaar' and 'hoshiyaar.'
> There are some notable exceptions where the song picturized on
>young
> boy(s)/girl(s), is actually sung by child singer(s). Here is the
>list:
>
> Nani teri morani ko mor legaya - Masoom (old)
> sung by Ranu Mukharjee ( Hemant's daughter); MD : Hemant
> Nanha munha rahi huan des ka sipahi huan - Son of India
> sung by Shanti Mathur; MD : Naushad
> Lakdi ki kaathi, kathi pe ghoda - Masoom
> sung by Vanita Mishra, Gurpreet Kaur, Gauri Bapat; MD : RDB
>
> Can some one add more in this list??
>
> - Shyam
Ashok
PS: BTW, "daadiyamma daadiyamma maan jaao" if from 'Gharana,' sung by Asha
and Kamal Baarot.
Kuntal M Daftary
i like udit narayan's son pretty good...
and i remember one girl who had sung "baagaan main..."
from lahme (i think) in some film award nite or something
similar a yr back or so... does anyone remember who
was that girl?
i also remember a classical song sung by a kiddo...
very very excellently sung... cant remember the song...
will check out and post... it was a teacher teacing
a kid classical singing...
as for others, who sung "nanna munna raahi hun"?
--
bye for now...
kuntal
zindagi to bewafaa hai, ek din thukarayegi
maut mehbooba hai apne, saath apne le jaayegi
Neeraj Deshmukh - The Falcon
In article <4qnh0r$9...@fido.asd.sgi.com> Harish Suvarna <sundu>
writes:
> I will call some "songs" not songs but musical conversations if
>
> 1) the "song" has alternate questions/answers
> 2) the lines are nothing but day to day sentences from our
> conversations
> 3) the lines are short.
>
> we have some more in our rich hindi films
Then I guess I'll modify my very first statement that started
this whole discussion to --- "I like / love songs (duets) that come
across as musical conversations".
> Did I express well, Falcon?
Quite succinctly too, Sundu... Thanks.
But then, we have two subclasses in this category. I now think
of all those qawwali jugalbandis (where there is the one-up(wo)manship
and sawaal-jawaab and all that fun stuff) also as musical
conversations (and in this case they *actually* are conversations),
but not quite the same as the aforementioned (by both of us)
lovey-dovey duets.
Harish Suvarna
there must be one in film jaagriti. can't remember.
-harish
Harish Suvarna
>
>> >1. suno
>> > kaho
>> > are kahaa
>> > suna
>> > kuchh hua kya?
>> > abhi to nahii.n, kuchh bhi nahii.n...
>
>> The 1st one is not a song but a musical conversation!!!
>
> Please elaborate, Sundu --- what is the difference? IMO this
>is a song all the way, even beyond the mukhaDa it continues in the
>same vein ---
> Now what would you call 'baago.n me.n bahar hai' from
>"Aradhana" --- a musical conversation or a song?
When I said musical conversation, it _just_ means that it is different
from song. Ofcourse there is no formal definition for song.
The song 1) is short question/statement and the answer is short statement
alternately by two voices.
It sounds talking to me but 'musically'. Some languages are music to ears we say.
This particular mukhda sounds like that to me.
I will call some "songs" not songs but musical conversations if
1) the "song" has alternate questions/answers
2) the lines are nothing but day to day sentences from our conversations
3) the lines are short.
we have some more in our rich hindi films
1) mujhe kuch kahana hai
mujhe bhi kuch kahana hai
pahale tum pahale tum
2) woh kyaa hai?
woh parbat hai
us parbat pe
ek mandir hai
us mandir me
ek muurat hai
yeh muurat kaisa hota hai
teri surat jaisaa hoti hai..
tere nainon ka mi deep jalaaoonga..
3) acha to hum chalte hai
phir kab miloge?
There must be some more..
Did I express well, Falcon?
-Harish
S.Jagadish
> as for others, who sung "nanna munna raahi hun"?
Shanti Mathur
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Ashok
In article <4qhf3b$l...@fido.asd.sgi.com>, sundu says...
>
>But, it is rare for a duet in which both voices START TOGETHER.
>
>
>Harish
>
Here are a few:
. saa.nwre salone aae din bahaar ke
(Hemant,Lata;'Ek Hi Rasta'; Majrooh; Hemant)
. rang de re, jeevan ki chunariyaa (title song)
(Manna Dey, Asha, chorus; 'Navrang'; Bharat Vyas; CR)
. jhoole me.n pavan ki aai bahaar
(Rafi,Lata; 'Baiju Bawra'; Shakeel; Naushad)
. koi pyar ki dekhe jaadugari
("; 'Kohinoor'; " ")
. Not sure of this one:
bhool jaae saare Gam, Doob jaae pyar me.n
(Rafi, Lata; 'Naushervan-E-Adil'; Parvez Shamshi; CR)
Ashok
Harish Suvarna
>>
>> 1) the "song" has alternate questions/answers
>> 2) the lines are nothing but day to day sentences from our
>> conversations
>> 3) the lines are short.
>>
>> we have some more in our rich hindi films
>
>this whole discussion to --- "I like / love songs (duets) that come
>across as musical conversations".
>
Neeraj Bhai, I am looking for duets that START with both voices. Then as
always,
one discussion always creates another interesting discussion. I like this one
too.
> Quite succinctly too, Sundu... Thanks.
>
> But then, we have two subclasses in this category. I now think
>of all those qawwali jugalbandis (where there is the one-up(wo)manship
>and sawaal-jawaab and all that fun stuff) also as musical
>conversations (and in this case they *actually* are conversations),
>but not quite the same as the aforementioned (by both of us)
>lovey-dovey duets.
>
Qawwalis are usually long lines. Is'nt it? Yes,
they ar also sawaal-jawaab (that praan qawwali..to a lady where he is
'achcha-chor_raatme' and 'achcha-seth_din_me'))
challenge-throwing (hum kissi se kum nahin, pardaa hai parada)
The other thing we have to
notice is that we hummed and will hum all these lovie-dovies till we die.
But did you ever hum
'suno' 'kaho' 'kuch sunaa' 'kuch kahaa' types? I dont think. Because
they are caught as conversations by brain . (thoda theory maar diyaa
yaar. bhaari tho nahi haina?)
-harish
Harish Suvarna
You are our Britannica Walking Dictionary, Ashok!!.
Btw,
Saanware salone ai --> I think there is a pretty new song starting
with this line in the recent years. May be Kuntal or Falcon can
find this one. This falls under Ashok's big Quiz of same lines starting
songs.
When I posted the Small GK Q, the songs in my mind were
1)Jhoolene de pawan ki aai bahaar 2) Yu to aapas me.. (Naushaad, will give
pstats tomorrow.). I thought the technique is patented by Naushaad. But
not sure now. CR is there.
Bhool jaaye saare gum...
Vvvvvvva,Vvvvva,Vvvva,Vvvaa Kyaa gaana yaad dilaye!!
Jiyo Ashok Jiyo.
(If we are in India, somewhere some radio station
plays some songs which are sweet,great and are'nt there in our cassets. Here
we are totally dependent on the collection we have. Suddenly some one
reminds you the song you heard years before. I think it is compressed and stored
safely somewhere in our memory. When one taps that storage with a 'cue',
there is no other go except to say 'vvvvaaa jiyo..' :-)))
I remember two voices singing together but is it started by both? I thhhhhink
it starts like that.
-harish
U.V. Ravindra
In article <4qpbo8$n...@fido.asd.sgi.com> Harish Suvarna <sundu> writes:
=> The other thing we have to
=> notice is that we hummed and will hum all these lovie-dovies till we die.
=> But did you ever hum
=>
=> 'suno' 'kaho' 'kuch sunaa' 'kuch kahaa' types? I dont think. Because
=> they are caught as conversations by brain . (thoda theory maar diyaa
=> yaar. bhaari tho nahi haina?)
=>
=> -harish
=>
You wouldn't believe it, Harish, but I do often hum the
'suniye-kahiye-kahiye-suniye-kahte, sunte baatoN baatoN meiN pyaar ho
jaayegaa' song from BaatoN BaatoN MeiN.
;-)
Ravindra.
VikasBha
Also,
Ik chameli ke mandwe tale.. Rafi-Asha (ChaChaCha)
Ciao,
Vikas
email address:- Vika...@aol.com
Pittsburgh, PA
(412)299-0219
Neeraj Deshmukh - The Falcon
In article <4qq1cb$r...@fido.asd.sgi.com> Harish Suvarna <sundu> writes:
> What do you do when in a song like
> 'aap ke kamare me koi rahata hain.........'
>
> hey you!! kyaa naam hai aapka?
> sunita.
> will you sing with me?
> mujhe gaana nahin aata (hyderabaadi hun yaar. no genders in our
> hindi)
> I will give you a start.
>
> 'agar ....'
> theek hai na?
> from yaadon ki baaraat. You say all this?
Now I think we are coming quite far from our own definitions
--- this is a proper conversation in the middle of a song, not a
'musical conversation' even by the definition that Sundu himself came
up with. So the illustration stands incorrect.
And I agree with UVR's 'suniye, kahiye' part... That is
eminently hummable...
Neeraj Deshmukh - The Falcon
In article <4qpmo4$n...@fido.asd.sgi.com> Harish Suvarna <sundu>
writes:
> >. saa.nwre salone aae din bahaar ke
> > (Hemant,Lata;'Ek Hi Rasta'; Majrooh; Hemant)
> Saanware salone ai --> I think there is a pretty new song starting
> with this line in the recent years. May be Kuntal or Falcon can find
> this one. This falls under Ashok's big Quiz of same lines starting
> songs.
The song Ashok mentions is from pretty old times (60s). You
are probably thinking of 'saa.nwali saloni si...' from 'Hum sab chor
hai' (a very apt name as the song has been plagiarized by Bappi Lahiri
from a Vital Signs song by the same title) that came out earlier this
year.
Vital Signs is a pop Urdu/Hindi group from Pakistan, just in
case you didn't know.
Harish Suvarna
What do you do when in a song like
'aap ke kamare me koi rahata hain.........'
hey you!! kyaa naam hai aapka?
sunita.
will you sing with me?
mujhe gaana nahin aata (hyderabaadi hun yaar. no genders in our hindi)
I will give you a start.
'agar ....'
theek hai na?
from yaadon ki baaraat. You say all this?
-Harish.
Kishore Krshna
In article <ufpw6os...@isip01.isip.msstate.edu>, desh...@isip01.isip.msstate.edu
says...
>In article <4qnh0r$9...@fido.asd.sgi.com> Harish Suvarna <sundu>
>writes:
>> I will call some "songs" not songs but musical conversations if
>> 1) the "song" has alternate questions/answers
>> 2) the lines are nothing but day to day sentences from our
>> conversations
>> 3) the lines are short.
>this whole discussion to --- "I like / love songs (duets) that come
>across as musical conversations".
> But then, we have two subclasses in this category. I now think
>of all those qawwali jugalbandis (where there is the one-up(wo)manship
>and sawaal-jawaab and all that fun stuff) also as musical
>conversations (and in this case they *actually* are conversations),
>but not quite the same as the aforementioned (by both of us)
>lovey-dovey duets.
Is it so clear cut? How would you classify "Acchaji mein haari chalo maan jao naa"
(Kala Pani, SDB, Asha & Rafi) & "Tere pyar ka aasra chahtha hoon" (Dhool
Ka Phool, N Dutta, Lata & M. Kapoor)? They're lovey-dovey:-) & musical
conversations - conversations don't have to be short. I think a lot of Majrooh's
duets for SDB fall in this grey region - it may actually be his innovation.
--
Kishore Krshna
kis...@mail.utexas.edu
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Kuntal Shah
>>>>> "Harish" == Harish Suvarna <sundu> writes:
Harish> Btw, Saanware salone ai --> I think there is a pretty new
Harish> song starting with this line in the recent years. May be
Harish> Kuntal or Falcon can find this one. This falls under
Harish> Ashok's big Quiz of same lines starting songs.
You are reffering to
"SaaNwali saloni teri zeel si aankheN
in meN na jane kahaN kho gaya hai mera dil"
from "Hum sub chor haiN" ; MD : Bappi Lahiri.
Is the name of the movie meant for the MD ? :-)
--
-Kuntal.
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| tumhiN ne ghum ki daulat di baDa ehsaan farmaaya
| zamaane bhar ke aage haath failaane kahaaN jaate
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Harish Suvarna
>
>> 'aap ke kamare me koi rahata hain.........'
>>
>> hey you!! kyaa naam hai aapka?
>> sunita.
>> will you sing with me?
>> mujhe gaana nahin aata (hyderabaadi hun yaar. no genders in our
>> hindi)
>> I will give you a start.
>>
>> 'agar ....'
>> theek hai na?
>
>> from yaadon ki baaraat. You say all this?
>
>--- this is a proper conversation in the middle of a song, not a
>'musical conversation' even by the definition that Sundu himself came
>up with. So the illustration stands incorrect.
>
> And I agree with UVR's 'suniye, kahiye' part... That is
>eminently hummable...
>
No change in definitions. I was just wondering when you hear this song,
along with the song you say these dialogues also. This is just conversation
not musical conversation. I asked just out of curiosity.
-Harish
Harish Suvarna
Yes, conversations need not be short. But when it comes to songs,
if the line is long, it does'nt sound to us as though they are 'talking' like
suno
kuch kahaa
kuch sunaa (ref: neeraj)
or
suniye kahiye baato baaton me pyaar ho jaayega.. (ref: uvr).
(the lyrics/tune is very apt. Baath se shuru karte like suniye kahiye etc etc
aur baato baato me hi pyaar ho jaata hai.)
In these songs it starts as though they (the singers) are talking and then
get into the song. Also these are like day to day conversations.
'tere pyaar ka aasra chhahta hoon wafa kar raha hoon wafa chhahta hhon'
(my lyrics not perfect)
is like 'shaayari' rather than
common conversation. The key is the length of line. If it is short there is more
scope for musical talking.
As Neeraj says, the khawwalis are the other type. Lots of sawal/jawaabs,
statements/counter_statements. May be Tere Pyaar ka aasra goes in this one
(dont remember even full mukhda). The other song mentioned by you also
is out of my database. Sorry.
I will try to observe Majrooh for SDB.
Any idea the songs we discussed all are written by Majrooh?
-Harish
Harish Suvarna
Thanx. Falcon and Kuntal. The copy is a pretty catchy tune.
I did not know about Vital Signs, Falcon.
--
Harish Suvarna
su...@mti.sgi.com
Neeraj Malhotra
Ashok (ADhar...@WorldBank.Org) wrote:
: >
: >But, it is rare for a duet in which both voices START TOGETHER.
: Here are a few:
: . Not sure of this one:
: bhool jaae saare Gam, Doob jaae pyar me.n
: (Rafi, Lata; 'Naushervan-E-Adil'; Parvez Shamshi; CR)
This one does not start together.
Lata : Bhool jaayen saare gham
doob jaayen pyaar mein
Rafi joins in with Lata without a break in the line..
Lata
&
Rafi : baj rahii hai dhun ye hi
raat ke sitaar mein
- Neeraj M.
Kesav Kaliyaperumal
Harish Suvarna wrote:
>
> Yes, conversations need not be short. But when it comes to songs,
> if the line is long, it does'nt sound to us as though they are 'talking' like
>
> suno
> kuch kahaa
> kuch sunaa (ref: neeraj)
>
> or
>
> suniye kahiye baato baaton me pyaar ho jaayega.. (ref: uvr).
> (the lyrics/tune is very apt. Baath se shuru karte like suniye kahiye etc etc
> aur baato baato me hi pyaar ho jaata hai.)
>
> In these songs it starts as though they (the singers) are talking and then
> get into the song. Also these are like day to day conversations.
> 'tere pyaar ka aasra chhahta hoon wafa kar raha hoon wafa chhahta hhon'
> (my lyrics not perfect)
> is like 'shaayari' rather than
> common conversation. The key is the length of line. If it is short there is more
> scope for musical talking.
Would "aap yahan aaye kisliye? aapne bulaya isliye" come under this
category. It would seem that one of the singers is singing and asking
questions while the other is just plain answering ,in each antara.
(BTW, it's been a very long time since I heard this song fully. The
copy I have ends with the first antara. If I remember right there is a
long interlude followed by the second antara when Asha does the
questioning and Kishore replies. I checked with the ISB, the song isn't
complete there too )
Kesav
--
Kesav Kaliyaperumal
kesa...@umich.edu
U.V. Ravindra
In article <4qqm7u$a...@fido.asd.sgi.com> Harish Suvarna <sundu> writes:
=> >> What do you do when in a song like
=> >
=> >> 'aap ke kamare me koi rahata hain.........'
=> >>
=> >> hey you!! kyaa naam hai aapka?
=> >> sunita.
=> >> will you sing with me?
=> >> mujhe gaana nahin aata (hyderabaadi hun yaar. no genders in our
=> >> hindi)
=> >> I will give you a start.
=> >>
=> >> 'agar ....'
=> >> theek hai na?
=> >
=> >> from yaadon ki baaraat. You say all this?
=> >
=> > Now I think we are coming quite far from our own definitions
=> >--- this is a proper conversation in the middle of a song, not a
=> >'musical conversation' even by the definition that Sundu himself came
=> >up with. So the illustration stands incorrect.
=> >
=> > And I agree with UVR's 'suniye, kahiye' part... That is
=> >eminently hummable...
=> >
=>
=> No change in definitions. I was just wondering when you hear this song,
=> along with the song you say these dialogues also. This is just conversation
=> not musical conversation. I asked just out of curiosity.
=>
Firstly, as NDFalcon says, I don't care too much for actual
conversations between songs (unless I am in a very freaky mood and
listening to freaky film songs, which is very rare, because I'd prefer
a serene GHazal anyday). Infact, I don't even care much for the
'locquations' of the singer himself in the song: they tend to spoil
the beauty of the song if not done well. Take an example:
'hum pe kyoN is qadar bigaD.ti ho?
chheD.ne waale tumheiN *AUR* hi the!'
says Hemant Kumar, in 'zara nazroN se kah do ji'. Now, I really love
this song and all that sort of thing, but I find this particular
gutturalization of HK very disgusting, to say the least. It's devoid
of all beauty to my ears. It's unmusical, for one, and HK's clearly
guilty of mispronunciation (he says 'is kadar'). But the worst part
is when he says "aur hi the". The way he says it, it seems like he's
trying to project some kind of cuteness/naughtiness/sly smile kinda
feeling, but his attempts fall miserably flat.
We digress from conversational duets, however. There *is* one song
that I hum very often, is a duet, and is conversational too, according
to your definition (it might not possess the short-sentences
feature, but I guess that's not so stringent a requirement anyway). I
am referring to "You are sixteen going on seventeen ..." from The
Sound of Music. A similar song exists in Hindi filmdom too: "tu kitne
baras ki?-tu kitne baras kaa?" by KK-Lata from a film whose name
escapes my volatile memory now. I do hum that one too, sometimes,
though not as often as 'You are 16'.
So, I guess your statement that people don't really hum/sing these
songs to themselves should be taken with a pinch of salt/pepper, or
whatever that spice is that people take things with a pinch of.
I *will* give HK credit for one thing in the 'zara nazroN se kah do'
song, however. At the particular place I have mentioned, he does
sound as despicable as Biswajit's face looks. This would perhaps be
rank among the few places in the history of Indian films that Hemant
Kumar sounded and felt exactly like the guy on the screen! ;-)
Ravindra.
Sanjeev Ramabhadran
>In article <4qhf3b$l...@fido.asd.sgi.com>, sundu says...
>>
>>
>>
>>Harish
>>
>
>
>
>. saa.nwre salone aae din bahaar ke
> (Hemant,Lata;'Ek Hi Rasta'; Majrooh; Hemant)
>
> (Manna Dey, Asha, chorus; 'Navrang'; Bharat Vyas; CR)
>
>. jhoole me.n pavan ki aai bahaar
> (Rafi,Lata; 'Baiju Bawra'; Shakeel; Naushad)
>
>. koi pyar ki dekhe jaadugari
> ("; 'Kohinoor'; " ")
>
> bhool jaae saare Gam, Doob jaae pyar me.n
> (Rafi, Lata; 'Naushervan-E-Adil'; Parvez Shamshi; CR)
>
How about "Bhula Nahin Dena" from Bara Dari (Rafi & Lata for NASHAD, not
Naushad, lyrics by Khumar Barabankvi (?))
And (I'm not sure about this one) "Aaha Rimjhim Ke Yeh Pyaare-Pyaare
Geet Liye" from Usne Kaha Tha by Lata and Talat.
I think "Dekho Bijli Dole" from Phir Wohi Dil Laya Hoon would qualify as
would "Tu Hai Mera Prem Devta" from Kalpana (both O.P. Nayyar
compositions - well actually, the second is purportedly taken from
Sudhir Phadke - who was it that had noted that? Please help).
more are there, but not THAT many probably.
Sanjeev
>
>
Kuntal Shah
UVR> You wouldn't believe it, Harish, but I do often hum the
UVR> 'suniye-kahiye-kahiye-suniye-kahte, sunte baatoN baatoN meiN
UVR> pyaar ho jaayegaa' song from BaatoN BaatoN MeiN.
Me too !!
And I also hum the guitar piece that comes just before the words "pyar
ho jayega" when they get repeated.
suniye-kahiye-kahiye-suniye-kahte, sunte
baatoN baatoN meiN pyaar ho jaayegaa
<that guitar part> pyaar ho jaayegaa
--
-Kuntal.
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| ro ro ke tumheN khat likhti hooN
| aur khud padhkar ro leti hooN
| -Amrita Pritam
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bano azra
>desh...@isip01.isip.msstate.edu (Neeraj Deshmukh - The Falcon) wrote:
>>In article <4qhf3b$l...@fido.asd.sgi.com> Harish Suvarna <sundu>
>>writes:
>>
>>> In these songs, the two voices (male/female) sing alternately and in
>>> the last antara or in between BOTH of them sing TOGETHER. It is very
>>> nice to see Hero and Heroine BOTH singing TOGETHER suddenly. Both
>>> love each other,then one sings for the other and then sing together
>>> for themselves. They indicate to us that they are going to live
>>> together for the rest of their life LOVIE-DOVIE.
Reminds me of this song from "Gateway of India", Madhubala and Bharat
Bhushan,
"Do ghadi woh jo paas aa baithe, hum zamaane se door ja baithe.."
It's just too cute. I haven't seen the movie, just the song in one of
the song collection videotapes, "Down Memory Lane" I think, but it looks
like the two are passing each other these cute love-notes, and what one
writes, the other sings...Madhubala is all so coy and BharatBhushan is
all shy, exchanging eloquent looks nevertheless :),the two of them are
in a room by themselves, the table looks like a grad-student's desk,
if I remember right, and Madhubala even sharpens her pencil on it very
endearingly..:) I've always enjoyed listening to the song, but I enjoyed
watching it too, in spite of our fav Mr SorryFace :).
Now do I have to apologise for shooting off on another tangent, or am I
excused Madhubala ke naam pe? :)
.............................................
Maara zamaane ne Asadullah Khan tumhe
Woh valvaley kahaan, woh jawaani kidhar gayi
.............................................
azra
bano azra
>U.V. Ravindra (u...@vnet.ibm.com) wrote:
>: Take an example:
>: 'hum pe kyoN is qadar bigaD.ti ho?
>: chheD.ne waale tumheiN *AUR* hi the!'
>: says Hemant Kumar, in 'zara nazroN se kah do ji'. Now, I really love
>What does cheDne waale tumheN aur hi the, mean here?? Isn't it cheDnewale
>tumko aur cheDenge instead?
Well, as far as I remember, that is "Chhedne waale tumhe aur bhi
hain..", logically followed by "hawaaoN par karo gussa, ulajhti hain jo
saaNsoN?? se, ghataaoN pe karo ghussa jo takraati hain zulfoN se.." or
something to that effect..he does stress on the 'hum' bit, ke bhai sirf
hum hi pe kyun bigadti ho type of thing..or so I thought..tho' the same
argument would fit in with the lines UVR mentioned as well..we'll just
have to go back and check, I guess..
>Secondly, I didn't find it disgusting. Kinda cute, mHo. Btw, to say that
>Biswajeet's and HK's voice go together is really gross! ;) He simply could
>not have had such a heavenly deep voice. :)
On the first point, about the disgusting bit, yeah, I cudn't get myself
to use that epithet on HK, but it takes some getting used to, that bit
of the song..The second point, about HK and Biswajeet's voices going
together [NOT!], aap ki raai se hum sau feesad sehmat hain..:)
There's another song where I don't quite like the singer saying the line
before he sings it, somewhere in the middle of the song..the song is
"Chalo ek baar phir se ajnabi ban jaayein hum donoN.."
but I don't remember where exactly and what line he 'says'..
Another musical conversation my roomie has been chanting endlessly to
our despair is
Naam kya hai?
Pyar ka maara
Ghar ka pataa do!
Dil hai tumhaara
Kya karte ho? [or something..]
Tumse pyar
Iska nateeja?
Kuchh bhi, yaar!
And back full circle..is there anymore to this song? Please? :)
azra
Ikram Ahmed Khan
bano azra (ba...@cs.sc.edu) wrote:
: There's another song where I don't quite like the singer saying the line
: before he sings it, somewhere in the middle of the song..the song is
: "Chalo ek baar phir se ajnabi ban jaayein hum donoN.."
: but I don't remember where exactly and what line he 'says'..
: Another musical conversation my roomie has been chanting endlessly to
: our despair is
: Naam kya hai?
: Pyar ka maara
: Ghar ka pataa do!
: Dil hai tumhaara
: Kya karte ho? [or something..]
: Tumse pyar
: Iska nateeja?
: Kuchh bhi, yaar!
: And back full circle..is there anymore to this song? Please? :)
And continuing on by changing the definition of musical conversation (It
changed around 6 times, didn't it? :) ), a rather delightful song by that
dream combination - Geeta Dutt and M. Rafi
chupke se mile, pyaase pyaase kuchh hum kuchh tum,
kya ho jo ghata khul ke barse, rum-jhum rum-jhum
Geeta kinda recites the words througuout the song, whereas Rafi gets to sing
it in tune. Movie is Manzil (I think, *ing Dev and Nutan?). The song
fulfills at least one definition of musical conversation (or conversation to
music, for the netpickers :) ).
Btw, quite a few of the earlier era songs had the singers sing the stanza in
a reciting/spoken kinda way. Would those qualify as well??
Later,
Ikram.
: azra
Chetan
In article <4rc3v1$i...@news.tamu.edu>,
iak...@eesun2.tamu.edu (Ikram Ahmed Khan) wrote:
>And continuing on by changing the definition of musical conversation (It
>changed around 6 times, didn't it? :) ), a rather delightful song by that
>dream combination - Geeta Dutt and M. Rafi
>
> chupke se mile, pyaase pyaase kuchh hum kuchh tum,
> kya ho jo ghata khul ke barse, rum-jhum rum-jhum
>
>Geeta kinda recites the words througuout the song, whereas Rafi gets to sing
>it in tune. Movie is Manzil (I think, *ing Dev and Nutan?).
Yes. Music is by SDB. Another lovely song in this category is 'saawan ki
raato.n mei.n aisaa bhi hota hai...'. While Talat just recites the lines in
the beginning, Lata sings them *beautifully* ! Of course, Talat does sing the
lines in the second half of the song.
C