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Daniel R. Reitman

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May 12, 2009, 10:23:12 PM5/12/09
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On Sat, 09 May 2009 20:47:16 -0400, Joy Beeson
<jbe...@invalid.net.invalid> wrote:

>Cheese, blended well
>into sauce B�chamel
>That's a Mornay!

Shouldn't this thread have been crossposted to r.m.f?

Dan, ad nauseam

Daniel R. Reitman

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May 12, 2009, 10:26:39 PM5/12/09
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On Sun, 10 May 2009 08:59:28 -0700, David Friedman
<dd...@daviddfriedman.nopsam.com> wrote:

>And if you're an earl who'd better worry
>That's a Moray

If the lady you're seen
With is named Mondegreen
That's Earl Murray.

Dan, ad nauseam

P.F. Bruns

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May 12, 2009, 10:50:51 PM5/12/09
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She does voice after voice
And cartoon fans rejoice
That's a Foray

Best,
Perry

-=-=-
... "Burn down every island in the Caribbean if you have to--but bring
me my bride...and MORE SLAW!"
--Zombie Pirate LeChuck (Earl Coen), "Escape From Monkey Island"
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Alan Kellogg

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May 13, 2009, 1:13:00 AM5/13/09
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When the law is so old
Its origins untold
That's a more.

Raj

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May 13, 2009, 8:50:06 AM5/13/09
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Black/white bird dives with ease
Through Canadian seas
That's a murre, eh.

When that H1N1
Curtails Mexican fun
That's a murrain.

Raj

Kip Williams

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May 13, 2009, 9:03:56 AM5/13/09
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When your sense of what's right
And what's wrong is too slight,
That's "amoral."


Kip W

Rich Brown

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May 13, 2009, 9:19:56 AM5/13/09
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> Black/white bird dives with ease
> Through Canadian seas
> That's a murre, eh.

Foo -- you beat me.

When you toast something sweet
At your camping retreat
That's s'more, eh?

--
Mmm, mmm! S'mores floating in maple syrup, part of MY balanced breakfast.
Rich Brown -- rab -- Song Assasin -- FreeMars.org

David Friedman

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May 13, 2009, 12:54:02 PM5/13/09
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In article
<33fb6cab-d852-479e...@e20g2000vbc.googlegroups.com>,
Raj <pasco...@yahoo.com> wrote:

When Toyota complains
That the work design pains
That's Muri.

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Author of
_Future Imperfect: Technology and Freedom in an Uncertain World_,
Cambridge University Press.

Kip Williams

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May 13, 2009, 3:57:55 PM5/13/09
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David Friedman wrote:

> When Toyota complains
> That the work design pains
> That's Muri.

When the gun lobby's here
And Chuck Heston is near,
That's NRA.

When Greek urns you detect
With twin grips and long neck,
They're amphorae.


Kip W

Rich Brown

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May 13, 2009, 5:27:11 PM5/13/09
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> That's NRA.
...groan...


When there's beautiful lights
through your boreal nights
they're aurorae.

--

David Friedman

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May 13, 2009, 5:49:01 PM5/13/09
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In article <gfCdnSOqhcqyppbX...@posted.visi>,
Rich Brown <rab...@freemars.org> wrote:

> > That's NRA.
> ...groan...
>
>
> When there's beautiful lights
> through your boreal nights
> they're aurorae.

When it's nothing to do with Murray or More
Or Moire or Murrey or Moray
Then it's thread drift.

Kip Williams

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May 13, 2009, 6:10:47 PM5/13/09
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David Friedman wrote:

> When it's nothing to do with Murray or More
> Or Moire or Murrey or Moray
> Then it's thread drift.

When a letter is seen,
Number one or thirteen,
That's M or A.


Kip W

P.F. Bruns

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May 13, 2009, 6:16:32 PM5/13/09
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Rich Brown wrote:
>> That's NRA.
> ...groan...
>
>
> When there's beautiful lights
> through your boreal nights
> they're aurorae.
>
>
>

When the food that you pack
Can stop bullets and flak
That's MRE

Best,
Perry


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Batman: The pictures help.
Catwoman (Gina Gershon) and Batman (Rino Romano), "The Batman: The Cat,
The Bat, and the Very Ugly"
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P.F. Bruns

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May 13, 2009, 6:29:00 PM5/13/09
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If "Iron Chef" fails to thrill
Watch "A Boy and his Grill"
That's some more Flay.

Sorry.
Perry

PT

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May 13, 2009, 9:18:40 PM5/13/09
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On May 12, 7:23 pm, Daniel R. Reitman <dreit...@spiritone.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 09 May 2009 20:47:16 -0400, Joy Beeson
>
> When you see men of blue
Point their feelers at you
They're Andorii

(or, "not Dorsai"?)

Pat

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Jeff Urs

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May 14, 2009, 2:13:19 AM5/14/09
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When the flat shark you try,
What's the next thing you cry?
That's "Some more ray!"

If it's zenite you crave,
Dig with this in a cave:
It's a mortae.

--
Jeff

Kip Williams

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May 14, 2009, 8:08:30 AM5/14/09
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When memento you crave
Of your impending grave,
That's a mori.


Kip W

Lee Gold

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May 14, 2009, 8:31:34 AM5/14/09
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Gary McGath wrote:
> It's one syllable long
> In the Japanese tongue:
> That's a mora.

Mora isn't in my Japanese dictionary meaning anything like "a syllable"
or even a kana sign. There is a "mora" (with long O) that means
"include, comprehend." The Japanese word for "syllable" is "onsetsu."

And I've found a rather strange webpage on Haiku
(http://thestarport.com/xeno/) which starts "Mora is Japanese rhythm.
Mora is called as "haku" in Japanese." And this meaning of "haku" isn't
in my Japanese=>English dictionary (smallish, but 1482 pages).

The Wikipedia article on "Mora (linguistics)" defines "mora" as "a unit
of sound used in phonology that determines syllable weight (which in
turn determines stress or timing) in some languages. Perhaps the most
succinct working definition was provided by the American linguist James
D. McCawley in 1968: a mora is 'Something of which a long syllable
consists of two and a short syllable consists of one.'"

Of course, Japanese has long and short vowels, but the long vowel is
written with two kana, each of which the Japanese think of as one
syllable -- and of course they also regard Terminal N as one syllable,
so that "kanji" is 3 syllables. The webpage cited above discusses this
stuff.

Why did you single out Japanese in your verse?


--Lee

blindlemm...@earthlink.net

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May 14, 2009, 8:39:02 AM5/14/09
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On May 12, 8:23 pm, Daniel R. Reitman <dreit...@spiritone.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 09 May 2009 20:47:16 -0400, Joy Beeson
>
> <jbee...@invalid.net.invalid> wrote:
> >Cheese, blended well  
> >into sauce Béchamel

> >That's a Mornay!
>
> Shouldn't this thread have been crossposted to r.m.f?
>
>                                                 Dan, ad nauseam

And there's one (of a series) I did about a million years ago:

When Rhodesia's the same,
It just changes its name
That's Zimbabwe.

David Goldfarb

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May 14, 2009, 4:52:27 PM5/14/09
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In article <guh33l$ne$1...@news.motzarella.org>,

Lee Gold <lee....@ca.rr.com> wrote:
>Gary McGath wrote:
>> It's one syllable long
>> In the Japanese tongue:
>> That's a mora.
>
>Mora isn't in my Japanese dictionary meaning anything like "a syllable"
>or even a kana sign. There is a "mora" (with long O) that means
>"include, comprehend." The Japanese word for "syllable" is "onsetsu."
[...]

>The Wikipedia article on "Mora (linguistics)" defines "mora" as "a unit
>of sound used in phonology that determines syllable weight (which in
>turn determines stress or timing) in some languages. Perhaps the most
>succinct working definition was provided by the American linguist James
>D. McCawley in 1968: a mora is 'Something of which a long syllable
>consists of two and a short syllable consists of one.'"

This word "mora" in fact comes from Latin; the literal meaning is
"delay", but by transference it's used here as "space of time".

--
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gold...@ocf.berkeley.edu |
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Kip Williams

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May 14, 2009, 8:54:32 PM5/14/09
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When of "Chloe" you sing
And think, 'Who wrote this thing?"
That's Neil Moret.

Kip W
(I have no actual idea if he pronounced it that way or not, but I always
have.)

Joe Kesselman

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May 14, 2009, 10:43:04 PM5/14/09
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When an eel in the sea
Rips your bathing suit free
That's a moray
When the cop hauls you in
'Cause you show too much skin
That's a more'
When you cop a plea:
"Critter in the sea
Took a bite of me
Pulled the fabric free --
Gee, I'm sawrry" <groan/>
And the judge thinks you're cute
In what's left of your suit
That's amore

Kip Williams

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May 14, 2009, 11:02:33 PM5/14/09
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Well, this is where I first came in.


Kip W

Karl Johanson

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May 15, 2009, 1:36:07 AM5/15/09
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"P.F. Bruns" <booms...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:gufgrn$23k$1...@news.motzarella.org...

> When the food that you pack
> Can stop bullets and flak
> That's MRE

The first rats I ate were IRPs (Individual Ration Packs). We found it
amusing to pronounce out the abbreviation: )

When we're having great times
then we run out of rhymes
that's a bore eh?


Karl Johanson
www.neo-opsis.ca
www.youtube.com/user/KarlJohanson42
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=48525080175


Philip Chee

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May 15, 2009, 5:16:54 AM5/15/09
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On Thu, 14 May 2009 05:31:34 -0700, Lee Gold wrote:

> Of course, Japanese has long and short vowels, but the long vowel is
> written with two kana, each of which the Japanese think of as one
> syllable -- and of course they also regard Terminal N as one syllable,

Actually a semi-vowel.

> so that "kanji" is 3 syllables. The webpage cited above discusses this
> stuff.

Three mora but two syllables.

Phil

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blindlemm...@earthlink.net

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May 15, 2009, 8:49:25 AM5/15/09
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I hope any future posts will be submitted in haiku form.

When the form of your
jive follows 5 - 7 -5
That is a haiku

Kip Williams

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May 15, 2009, 9:23:44 AM5/15/09
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No, that's just counting syllables.


Kip W

Rob Wynne

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May 15, 2009, 9:53:00 AM5/15/09
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Rob Wynne

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May 15, 2009, 9:58:00 AM5/15/09
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In rec.music.filk Rob Wynne <d...@america.net> wrote:
> In rec.music.filk Kip Williams <k...@rochester.rr.com> wrote:
>> blindlemm...@earthlink.net wrote:
>>> I hope any future posts will be submitted in haiku form.
>>>
>>> When the form of your
>>> jive follows 5 - 7 -5
>>> That is a haiku
>>
>> No, that's just counting syllables.
>>
>>
>> Kip W
>

I don't understand
Why these people are impressed
It's a parlour trick.

Joe Kesselman

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May 15, 2009, 12:02:52 PM5/15/09
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Rob Wynne wrote:
> I don't understand
> Why these people are impressed
> It's a parlour trick.

Proper haiku has other constraints, including subject matter.

Improper haiku is another matter entirely.

Kip Williams

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May 15, 2009, 12:59:19 PM5/15/09
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We should just call it lowku, to distinguish. It would throw pedants
like me out of work, but I'm sure I could find another line. Perhaps
something with apostrophe's...


Kip W

Rob Wynne

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May 15, 2009, 2:51:53 PM5/15/09
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But that was my point
Five seven five's not enough
to make a haiku

P.F. Bruns

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May 15, 2009, 6:16:10 PM5/15/09
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Kip Williams wrote:

> We should just call it lowku, to distinguish. It would throw pedants
> like me out of work, but I'm sure I could find another line. Perhaps
> something with apostrophe's...
>
>
> Kip W

It's not as catchy, but since "hai" can mean "yes" in Japanese, one
could call other 5-7-5 stuff "iie-ku."

Best,
Perry

ha...ha...ha...HAIKU
(Unsightly nasal discharge)
Uh, you want this cake?

Kip Williams

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May 15, 2009, 7:48:46 PM5/15/09
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Rob Wynne wrote:
> In rec.music.filk Joe Kesselman <keshlam.c...@verizon.net> wrote:
>> Rob Wynne wrote:
>>> I don't understand
>>> Why these people are impressed
>>> It's a parlour trick.
>> Proper haiku has other constraints, including subject matter.
>>
>> Improper haiku is another matter entirely.
>
> But that was my point
> Five seven five's not enough
> to make a haiku

And we agreed there. Just as you agreed with me, I agreed with you.


Kip W
egregious

Martin DeMello

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May 16, 2009, 1:05:30 PM5/16/09
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On Fri, 15 May 2009 12:59:19 -0400, Kip Williams wrote:
>
> We should just call it lowku, to distinguish. It would throw pedants
> like me out of work, but I'm sure I could find another line. Perhaps
> something with apostrophe's...

there's always 'senryu'

martin

mn...@cunyvm.cuny.edu

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May 17, 2009, 4:37:31 PM5/17/09
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On May 15, 7:48 pm, Kip Williams <k...@rochester.rr.com> wrote:
> Rob Wynne wrote:
> > In rec.music.filk Joe Kesselman <keshlam.cat.nos...@verizon.net> wrote:
> >> Rob Wynne wrote:
> >>> I don't understand
> >>> Why these people are impressed
> >>> It's a parlour trick.
> >> Proper haiku has other constraints, including subject matter.
>
> >> Improper haiku is another matter entirely.
>
> > But that was my point
> > Five seven five's not enough
> > to make a haiku
>
> And we agreed there. Just as you agreed with me, I agreed with you.

Nicely done.

***
Marty Helgesen
Mygmailuseridis mnhccatcunyvm
All syllogisms have three parts, therefore this is not a syllogism.


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