13 Balls
Scott Seltzer
-Scott
----== posted via www.jugglingdb.com ==----
Norbi
Yeah it must be about time one of the numbers gods managed it. Ben? Bruce?
Peter?..
-Nor
Sid84
I bet on Peter ;)
Sid
Peter Bone
> I was wondering if anyone has flashed 13 balls recently?
>
> -Scott
Well put it this was, my triceps are aching this morning, yet I have a
strange sense of contentment! Also, a mysterious record has appeared on
the JRDB
http://www.bogleg.com/records/lists.php?submit=Submit&tricka=307
Peter
Adam Chamberlain
>strange sense of contentment! Also, a mysterious record has appeared on
>the JRDB
>
>http://www.bogleg.com/records/lists.php?submit=Submit&tricka=307
>
>Peter
Congrats, much respect dude, well done,
Adam
Colin E.
>
> Well put it this was, my triceps are aching this morning, yet I have a
> strange sense of contentment! Also, a mysterious record has appeared on
> the JRDB
>
> http://www.bogleg.com/records/lists.php?submit=Submit&tricka=307
Peter, don't be such a tease! Tell us more ... How long have you been
working on 13? How clean was the flash?
and ...
Have you got it on video?
Finally, congratulations on making juggling history!
Colin E.
Joost Dessing
nice cross-pass, Scott!!!
and of course all the congrats to Peter!!!!
josti
shadow link
Wow! What now, you gonna try it again any time soon or have you made plans
to do something specific in your practice once you managed it.
Peter Bone
I've been working on 13 for about a year but not intensively at all. I
normally have about 2 sessions of trying it a week and a session normally
consists of 1 or 2 tries, since each try takes so much effort. I must have
actually tried to flash 13 balls only around 100 times. The closest I'd
come before last night was only 10 catches but there were a couple of
times where I felt like I could have caught them all with a bit of luck.
When I did it last night it was very clean - I didn't have to move to
catch them. The thing is that it has to be like that for there to be any
chance of catching them. I did it on about my 5th go. Recently I've been
practicing it for more like 5 tries even though I thought there would be
no chance of doing it after the second or third go. What I was thinking
just before launching them was to start low and fast and gradually
increase the height while trying to maintain the speed throughout. This is
the best technique for 2 reasons. Firslty, you're starting low when you
have the most weight in your hands and getting higher as the weight in the
hands decreases. Secondly, by increasing the height throughout the balls
seperate out in the air so that they come down with a lower frequency,
making them easier to catch. I've thought along these lines before but
it's never really payed off that much because the faster you start the
more chance there is of the balls going in the wrong directions. It's not
easy to release all those beanbags cleanly at high speed.
Two people (Joe Hague and Jacob Chadwick) kind of saw me catch them but
they have no way of knowing that I threw them all or that it was 13 balls
- I didn't think to show them the balls in my hands after. They believe me
though. Obviously I didn't video it (I hardly ever video myself) but if I
get it to the point where I think I'll have a good chance of doing it then
I'll try to film it.
Peter
Nick D
I was quite suprised to check that and find that you were at the same
university as me - I've never seen anyone juggling that many balls (or
anything), maybe you can show us all tomorrow? :)
xfirebladex
> Scott Seltzer wrote:
> > I was wondering if anyone has flashed 13 balls recently?
> >
> > -Scott
>
> Well put it this was, my triceps are aching this morning, yet I have a
> strange sense of contentment! Also, a mysterious record has appeared on
> the JRDB
>
> http://www.bogleg.com/records/lists.php?submit=Submit&tricka=307
>
> Peter
>
>
You've raised the bar again sir. Damn you... :D
I just can't imagine how you hold 13 beanbags and release them all
cleanly. I know there isn't much stock in flashes, but when it gets up
there, there's definitely alot to hit.
Another milestone in juggling history.
Chiok
Miika
Congratulations!! It's nice to hear something like this. Hope to see a
video someday too. Great job!
-Miika
--
(btw, tämä oli neljästoista viestini)
popstar_dave
Pete, that's amazing. Congratulations.
Can I ask what grip you used?
Dave
Peter Bone
> Can I ask what grip you used?
>
> Dave
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v424/peterbone/balls_hold2.jpg
I have 2 on top and hold the edge of the back one down with my thumb.
Joe Hague
Yes I was there!.....although I did not SEE the said event -(did it really
happen???)......I
did hear the dull thud of 13 or so tiny bags followed by a rather squeaky
yelp of joy.
Well done my boy it is a great feat.
I would just like to point out that although he has flashed 13 - I still
beat him on a seven
endurance (and he uses sissy balls!!!!)
Joe
popstar_dave
Well, I can't beat you at either of them. But I bet I can stand on one
leg and go "Schma-schmoogle-schmeegle-schma" for the longest.
Dave
popstar_dave
Cheers, thanks for that. Not that I'm planning on trying to flash 13 at
any stage in the near future. (I only flashed 8 a couple of days ago).
But it's always interesting to know how it's being done.
Dave
Joe Hague
Yeah... The second schma always gets me......
Joe
Luke Burrage
> Scott Seltzer wrote:
> > I was wondering if anyone has flashed 13 balls recently?
> >
> > -Scott
>
> Well put it this was, my triceps are aching this morning, yet I have a
> strange sense of contentment! Also, a mysterious record has appeared on
> the JRDB
>
> http://www.bogleg.com/records/lists.php?submit=Submit&tricka=307
>
> Peter
>
Congratulations Peter! We all knew you would do it.
Luke
(Meanwhile Luke Burrage, having juggled his beanbags just once since the
EJC, decides to spend the evening trying to break Peteræ„€ 12 ball
record...)
jellyman
Congratulations, Peter...
Can't wait for a video/ 11b qualify...
-Paul
popstar_dave
That's true for most beginners. There's only one thing for it: practice,
practice, PRACTICE.
Dave
Peter Bone
> > > leg and go "Schma-schmoogle-schmeegle-schma" for the longest.
> > > Dave
> >
> >
> > Yeah... The second schma always gets me......
> >
> > Joe
>
> That's true for most beginners. There's only one thing for it: practice,
> practice, PRACTICE.
> Dave
hehe, Joe's become a rec.juggler now. He got drawn into a pointless and
irrelevant discussion! Nice going Dave - he's one of us now.
Peter Bone
>
> Luke
>
> (Meanwhile Luke Burrage, having juggled his beanbags just once since the
> EJC, decides to spend the evening trying to break Peteræ„€ 12 ball
> record...)
You had to pick 12 balls just to completely ruin my 3 consecutive numbers
records! Just kidding - good luck.
Peter
Rory Tatum
> Well put it this was, my triceps are aching this morning, yet I have a
> strange sense of contentment! Also, a mysterious record has appeared on
> the JRDB
>
> http://www.bogleg.com/records/lists.php?submit=Submit&tricka=307
>
> Peter
>
>
>
> ----== posted via www.jugglingdb.com ==----
Well, I guess you can cross off one of your goals from the survey.
Congratulations Peter.
Adam
That's really weird of you to bring it up, did you wake up this morning
thinking "huh, I have the strangest sensation that someone somewhere
flashed 13 balls."
Congratulations Peter!
Adam
coleman
> Scott Seltzer wrote:
> > I was wondering if anyone has flashed 13 balls recently?
> >
> > -Scott
>
> Well put it this was, my triceps are aching this morning, yet I have a
> strange sense of contentment! Also, a mysterious record has appeared on
> the JRDB
>
> http://www.bogleg.com/records/lists.php?submit=Submit&tricka=307
>
> Peter
>
wow! truly amazing peter.
that's a superb achievement - massive congrqatulations to you :8)
cole. x
gum...@skasuj.epf.pl
pete...@hotmail.com.nospam (Peter Bone) wrote:
> Well put it this was, my triceps are aching this morning, yet I have a
> strange sense of contentment! Also, a mysterious record has appeared on
> the JRDB
>
> http://www.bogleg.com/records/lists.php?submit=Submit&tricka=307
Have you got video??
I want to see it.
Jason Quinn
> Well put it this was, my triceps are aching this morning, yet I have a
> strange sense of contentment! Also, a mysterious record has appeared on
> the JRDB
Wow! I mean wow! But then again, many of us rj'ers wondered not if but
when you'd do it. A big congrats!
Jason
jugglemad
magnificent feat.
mark
adremeaux
Peter Bone wrote:
> Scott Seltzer wrote:
> > I was wondering if anyone has flashed 13 balls recently?
> >
> > -Scott
>
> Well put it this was, my triceps are aching this morning, yet I have a
> strange sense of contentment! Also, a mysterious record has appeared on
> the JRDB
>
> http://www.bogleg.com/records/lists.php?submit=Submit&tricka=307
>
> Peter
Now's your chance to update your juggling survey accordingly ;)
Congrats!
But, of course, your accomplishments are never good enough. More, more,
more!
-andy
www.andydremeaux.com
Félix
> Peter Bone wrote:
> > Well put it this was, my triceps are aching this morning, yet I have a
> > strange sense of contentment! Also, a mysterious record has appeared on
> > the JRDB
>
> Wow! I mean wow! But then again, many of us rj'ers wondered not if but
> when you'd do it. A big congrats!
>
> Jason
Spot on, Jason! :)
Just seeing how easy and graceful it looked for Peter to flash 11 balls
and manage a pirouette before the eleventh catch left me no doubt that
he'd flash 13 eventually.
It still remains truly exceptionnal, though! Congratulation Peter!
Félix
Seerzy
> I was wondering if anyone has flashed 13 balls recently?
>
> -Scott
>
I, (Seerzy) will me the first person to ever flash 14 balls. Can't flash
odd numbers very well. Up to 10 at the moment. Giv it about 4 years or so
maybe.
Bok_sk
I'm cuious what you felt while doing that
and after the success.
As for me, Just a few times I tried to flash 7,
the sky was so blue and high, just watching
the balls up in the air made me feel so good.
Joost Dessing
> That's really weird of you to bring it up, did you wake up this morning
> thinking "huh, I have the strangest sensation that someone somewhere
> flashed 13 balls."
>
> Congratulations Peter!
>
> Adam
haha, and u also believe that the girl in the box really is sowed in two
pieces???
me being a magician for a tiny bit...I won't give away the clue..
:o)
Josti
popstar_dave
You're gonna have some competition in that. Good to have goals, though.
Dave
Peter Bone
> > odd numbers very well. Up to 10 at the moment. Giv it about 4 years or so
> > maybe.
> >
> > ----== posted via www.jugglingdb.com ==----
>
> You're gonna have some competition in that.
Well he won't have any competition from me. I can't flash even numbers
very well. I have to use asynch fountain and I think synch fountain is the
way to go with 14. I believe Sam Hartford was trying it though.
Good luck with that Seerzy, just take it slowly and do the right training
or you'll injure yourself.
Peter
popstar_dave
to flash 8 synch. And really, how much harder could those six extra balls
be?
Dave
Luke Burrage
> > Congratulations Peter! We all knew you would do it.
> >
> > Luke
> >
> > (Meanwhile Luke Burrage, having juggled his beanbags just once since the
> > EJC, decides to spend the evening trying to break Peteræ„€ 12 ball
> > record...)
>
> You had to pick 12 balls just to completely ruin my 3 consecutive numbers
> records! Just kidding - good luck.
It didn`t work though, and now I'm just aching all over with nothing to
show for it.
Luke
Norbi
*chuckles slightly*
erik_jernqvist
> Scott Seltzer wrote:
> > I was wondering if anyone has flashed 13 balls recently?
> >
> > -Scott
>
> strange sense of contentment! Also, a mysterious record has appeared on
> the JRDB
>
>
> Peter
4 consecutive non-qualified numbers. Both good and bad at the same time...
Albert doesn't have to feel alone now for flashing 13.
Adam
Hey, I'm not that stupid, I know she has a twin sister who doesn't get
cut in half and they show her at the end.
Adam
Adam
How many times have you flashed 10 so far? How is you 9 ball flash?
Just curious. Also, you say you started juggling 10 months ago does
that mean 10 months ago you couldn't juggle 3 balls or is that when you
started training "seriously."
Adam
Rory Parle
> Scott Seltzer wrote:
>
>>I was wondering if anyone has flashed 13 balls recently?
>>
>>-Scott
>
> strange sense of contentment! Also, a mysterious record has appeared on
> the JRDB
>
> http://www.bogleg.com/records/lists.php?submit=Submit&tricka=307
>
> Peter
Congratulations Peter. Your 13 ball record is now better than my six. I
can't even imagine what a 13 ball cascade looks like. How high is it?
--
Rory Parle
http://www.soylentred.net/
Seerzy
anyway. 10 months ago I learnt 3 balls. But I have been training seriously
ever since. I just can't go without practicing. the good thing is I learn't in
my school holidays.
Luke Burrage
> > > You had to pick 12 balls just to completely ruin my 3 consecutive numbers
> > > records! Just kidding - good luck.
> >
> > It didn`t work though, and now I'm just aching all over with nothing to
> > show for it.
> >
> > Luke
> >
>
Now most of my body is ok... but my triceps are killing me!
AAAARRRRGHGGHHHH!!!! I'm never going to try 12 balls again!
xfirebladex
Is flashing 12 the sort of things that requires push-ups as a cool down
exercise?
Chiok
www.gravityvomit.co.uk
(Doesn't even have 12 of the same balls to try)
popstar_dave
That's a good point. Although I do have 7 130g bean bags and 5 oddballs,
so I could try that. Not sure how I'd go catching 3 oddballs and three
beanbags in one hand. And if I wanted to try 13, I'd have to throw in a
football, or a cigarbox... or maybe the golf ball that smashed through our
back window last week (stupid neighbours)!
Dave
Daan Yperman
Great!
You're making history!
What about your aims now?
Daan
Peter Bone wrote:
> Scott Seltzer wrote:
> > I was wondering if anyone has flashed 13 balls recently?
> >
> > -Scott
>
> Well put it this was, my triceps are aching this morning, yet I have a
> strange sense of contentment! Also, a mysterious record has appeared on
> the JRDB
>
> http://www.bogleg.com/records/lists.php?submit=Submit&tricka=307
>
> Peter
>
>
>
Matt Hall
Congratulations!!! I was never a big ring fan so I'm stoked for the
ball record. A deep bow of respect.......
I'm coming to BJC this year so I'll see you there. Would you be so
kind as to lower yourself down from Mount Olympus and do some 5 ball
siteswap jamming with me? I've wanted to do that with you and Ben
since I saw y'all at Derby in 2004. You guys rock.
Again, congratulations!
Matt
PS Luke, I'm going to the Israeli festival also!!! Whoo hoo!! Your
diary inspired me...
sixsixone
>
> I've been working on 13 for about a year but not intensively at all. I
> normally have about 2 sessions of trying it a week and a session normally
> consists of 1 or 2 tries, since each try takes so much effort. I must have
> actually tried to flash 13 balls only around 100 times. The closest I'd
> come before last night was only 10 catches
I saw think I saw that. Did I? I'm sure I did.
> but there were a couple of
> times where I felt like I could have caught them all with a bit of luck.
>
> When I did it last night it was very clean - I didn't have to move to
> catch them. The thing is that it has to be like that for there to be any
> chance of catching them. I did it on about my 5th go. Recently I've been
> practicing it for more like 5 tries even though I thought there would be
> no chance of doing it after the second or third go. What I was thinking
> just before launching them was to start low and fast and gradually
> increase the height while trying to maintain the speed throughout. This is
> the best technique for 2 reasons. Firslty, you're starting low when you
> have the most weight in your hands and getting higher as the weight in the
> hands decreases. Secondly, by increasing the height throughout the balls
> seperate out in the air so that they come down with a lower frequency,
> making them easier to catch. I've thought along these lines before but
> it's never really payed off that much because the faster you start the
> more chance there is of the balls going in the wrong directions.
I just have to say that watching you spend ages carefully arranging
six beanbags in one hand and seven in the other, then another minute
or so in deep concentration as if you're about to do something actually
quite impressive, then seeing the first throw fly away about ten feet
behind your head is absolutely bloody hilarious. A top comedy moment. :-)
> It's not
> easy to release all those beanbags cleanly at high speed.
Indeed. But never mind all this talk of clever juggling techniques, what
we all really want to know is what track you had playing on your mp3 player
at the time. Perhaps we could all listen to it whilst practising and
see if it makes a discernable difference....
Tom
p.s. Oh yeah...congratulations and all that. :-)
Peter Bone
> Peter Bone wrote:
> >
> > I've been working on 13 for about a year but not intensively at all. I
> > normally have about 2 sessions of trying it a week and a session normally
> > consists of 1 or 2 tries, since each try takes so much effort. I must have
> > actually tried to flash 13 balls only around 100 times. The closest I'd
> > come before last night was only 10 catches
>
> I saw think I saw that. Did I? I'm sure I did.
Yeah probably, I did it on the level I think.
>
> > but there were a couple of
> > times where I felt like I could have caught them all with a bit of luck.
> >
> > When I did it last night it was very clean - I didn't have to move to
> > catch them. The thing is that it has to be like that for there to be any
> > chance of catching them. I did it on about my 5th go. Recently I've been
> > practicing it for more like 5 tries even though I thought there would be
> > no chance of doing it after the second or third go. What I was thinking
> > just before launching them was to start low and fast and gradually
> > increase the height while trying to maintain the speed throughout. This is
> > the best technique for 2 reasons. Firslty, you're starting low when you
> > have the most weight in your hands and getting higher as the weight in the
> > hands decreases. Secondly, by increasing the height throughout the balls
> > seperate out in the air so that they come down with a lower frequency,
> > making them easier to catch. I've thought along these lines before but
> > it's never really payed off that much because the faster you start the
> > more chance there is of the balls going in the wrong directions.
>
> I just have to say that watching you spend ages carefully arranging
> six beanbags in one hand and seven in the other, then another minute
> or so in deep concentration as if you're about to do something actually
> quite impressive, then seeing the first throw fly away about ten feet
> behind your head is absolutely bloody hilarious. A top comedy moment. :-)
hehe, I'm glad you find it ammusing. I think that saying I spend a minute
in deep concentration is stretching it a bit - more like a couple of
seconds.
> > It's not
> > easy to release all those beanbags cleanly at high speed.
>
> Indeed. But never mind all this talk of clever juggling techniques, what
> we all really want to know is what track you had playing on your mp3 player
> at the time. Perhaps we could all listen to it whilst practising and
> see if it makes a discernable difference....
>
> Tom
>
> p.s. Oh yeah...congratulations and all that. :-)
It's not music. It's a confidence track that I recorded. It says "you are
a good juggler, you can flash 13 balls easily, 13 balls is nothing, my
gran could flash 13 balls, ...". I also have a reverse psychology one that
I use sometimes that says "13 balls is impossible, you'll never flash 13
balls, it can't be done ...". ;-)
Peter
popstar_dave
Hahaha... That's brilliant! I had a fun five or so minutes thinking
about all the different tracks that famous jugglers would be using.
Jason Garfield: "You are the best jugger in the world. No one is better
than you. Not even that arrogant chump ..."
Ben Beever: "678294153234759618567183942..."
Michael Karas: "Elbow, neck, back of hand, underarm, knee, forehead, ..."
Eden Zak: "Boing, boing, boing, boing, boing, ..."
Jugglingeek: "Just because you can't see the balls, doesn't mean they're
not still there."
Dave Nager: "My name is NAY-gs. NAY-gs. Dee-NAY-gs. How hard can it
be?!"
Norbi: "Rings are good. Work through the pain. Don't listen to everyone
else."
Anthony Gatto: "Bah, I thought juggling was supposed to be hard."
Thomas Dietz: "Schni-Schna-Schnappi, Schnappi, Schnappi, Schnapp!"
Cheers,
Dave
xfirebladex
>
> Hahaha... That's brilliant! I had a fun five or so minutes thinking
> about all the different tracks that famous jugglers would be using.
>
> Jason Garfield: "You are the best jugger in the world. No one is better
> than you. Not even that arrogant chump ..."
>
> Ben Beever: "678294153234759618567183942..."
>
> Michael Karas: "Elbow, neck, back of hand, underarm, knee, forehead, ..."
>
> Eden Zak: "Boing, boing, boing, boing, boing, ..."
>
> Jugglingeek: "Just because you can't see the balls, doesn't mean they're
> not still there."
>
> Dave Nager: "My name is NAY-gs. NAY-gs. Dee-NAY-gs. How hard can it
> be?!"
>
> Norbi: "Rings are good. Work through the pain. Don't listen to everyone
> else."
>
> Anthony Gatto: "Bah, I thought juggling was supposed to be hard."
>
> Thomas Dietz: "Schni-Schna-Schnappi, Schnappi, Schnappi, Schnapp!"
>
>
>
> Cheers,
> Dave
>
Classic...
Chiok
erik_jernqvist
> It's not music. It's a confidence track that I recorded. It says "you are
> a good juggler, you can flash 13 balls easily, 13 balls is nothing, my
> gran could flash 13 balls, ...". I also have a reverse psychology one that
> I use sometimes that says "13 balls is impossible, you'll never flash 13
> balls, it can't be done ...". ;-)
It could be rather hard to pull that feat of if you at the last second
think "Hey! What the hell am I doing? I haven't even qualified 10!".