We have ZELDA, what about Playstation?
nos...@nospam.com
>with Zelda and I put aside the Game Boy Color for awhile. The local Best
>Buy put out two pallet displays last week. One with about 50 Playstations
>and the other with about 50 N64s. I went by today and the Playstation
>pallet looks about the same, but the Nintendo pallet is almost empty. I
>think this is a sign of the popularity of Zelda. Several people I know that
>are already Playstation owners are finally buying N64s this Christmas.
>Really it is the best of both worlds, you just miss out on too much if you
>don't own both.
>
>silver e wrote:
>
>> WE have Zelda! what do they have? Tombraider 3? Ha! If I didnt have a
>> N64 I'd probably kill myself! A lot of N64 haters r going to be sneaking
>> out getting one (and a funky purple controller) so they can experience
>> our joy of playing a PERFECT game. U can bet that kids r going to go
>> crazy if they preordered their cart and some stupid salesperson sales it
>> to someone else! I think ill just set up some video cameras to record
>> their agony. Next week on Springer: "They didnt have my gold Zelda cart
>> so I was forced to sleep with the store owners 3 daughters!" I LOVE
>> NINTENDO!!!!!! Im going to start my Christmas vacation on the 23rd
Ninja Cow
Playstation is better but I do enjoy it more. Playstation constantly had a
wide variety of games to choose from. I'd say in the last year and a half
they doubled their library. I know not all the games were great or decent
even but they were there. Variety. The N64 started out by putting out
games people already played on their PC's. All their RPG's are mario clones
with a twist. I'm not saying they suck because I wouldn't know, I have yet
to play them. If you think about it, the N64 seems to be tailored towards a
younger audience. Plain and simple, play what you like and don't put down
other people's preferences. Zelda does look fun though : )
Skye
otaku...@my-dejanews.com wrote in message
<72nr2q$6ha$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>...
>Um...PSX doesn't have Zelda, but then again it has every other game worth
>owning for longer than a month. Zelda looks to be THE game for the
N64...and
>I do mean THE game...Hope you enjoy it, then when yr done go the store &
buy
>a PSX to play some other worthwhile games, which unfortunately you'll never
>find on the N64.
Sad but true.
SKYE
Snappdad
>Um...PSX doesn't have Zelda, but then again it has every other game worth
>owning for longer than a month. Zelda looks to be THE game for the
N64...and
>I do mean THE game...Hope you enjoy it, then when yr done go the store &
buy
>a PSX to play some other worthwhile games, which unfortunately you'll never
>find on the N64.
>post.
wow are you bitter........................
otaku...@my-dejanews.com
Um...PSX doesn't have Zelda, but then again it has every other game worth
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>
> Don't forget Racing games.
As much as I'm personally interested in playing F-Zero X, I think
you've got to be incredibly biased toward Nintendo/against Sony
to suggest that the N64 is the system to have for racing games.
Sony has volumes of excellent racing games--many more quality
selections and variety on the PSX than N64--I really think
this is pretty difficult to argue against...
> In article <72nr2q$6ha$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>, otaku...@my-dejanews.com
chedder
> otaku...@my-dejanews.com wrote in message
> <72nr2q$6ha$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>...
> >Um...PSX doesn't have Zelda, but then again it has every other game
> worth
> >owning for longer than a month. Zelda looks to be THE game for the
> N64...and
> >I do mean THE game...Hope you enjoy it, then when yr done go the
> store &
> buy
> >a PSX to play some other worthwhile games, which unfortunately you'll
> never
> >find on the N64.
>
> Sad but true.
>
> SKYE
one thing the N64 can hold over PSX is that it is far better at
supporting 4 player games then PSX ever will be. (but i still prefer the
PSX)
have clue--will travel
>owning for longer than a month. Zelda looks to be THE game for the N64...and
>I do mean THE game...Hope you enjoy it, then when yr done go the store & buy
>a PSX to play some other worthwhile games, which unfortunately you'll never
>find on the N64.
>
>post.
And if you enjoy wrestling games, you want a Saturn anyway. ;)
jeff. Fire Pro Wrestling S: 6 Men Scramble.
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We now return you to your regularly scheduled
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I'm not gonna run out and buy an N64 for just 1 game. That's stupid. I'll
stick with MGS thank you very much.
In article <364f478...@news.atl.bellsouth.net>,
nos...@nospam.com wrote:
> >The Playstation has Xenogears, but I will probably play it after I am done
> >with Zelda and I put aside the Game Boy Color for awhile. The local Best
> >Buy put out two pallet displays last week. One with about 50 Playstations
> >and the other with about 50 N64s. I went by today and the Playstation
> >pallet looks about the same, but the Nintendo pallet is almost empty. I
> >think this is a sign of the popularity of Zelda. Several people I know that
> >are already Playstation owners are finally buying N64s this Christmas.
> >Really it is the best of both worlds, you just miss out on too much if you
> >don't own both.
> >
> >silver e wrote:
> >
> >> WE have Zelda! what do they have? Tombraider 3? Ha! If I didnt have a
> >> N64 I'd probably kill myself! A lot of N64 haters r going to be sneaking
> >> out getting one (and a funky purple controller) so they can experience
> >> our joy of playing a PERFECT game. U can bet that kids r going to go
> >> crazy if they preordered their cart and some stupid salesperson sales it
> >> to someone else! I think ill just set up some video cameras to record
> >> their agony. Next week on Springer: "They didnt have my gold Zelda cart
> >> so I was forced to sleep with the store owners 3 daughters!" I LOVE
> >> NINTENDO!!!!!! Im going to start my Christmas vacation on the 23rd
>
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D
bnrtbbf wrote:
> In article <72o409$2q3$1...@camel25.mindspring.com>, "Skye"
> <ken...@nospam.netscape.net> wrote:
>
> > otaku...@my-dejanews.com wrote in message
> > <72nr2q$6ha$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>...
> > >Um...PSX doesn't have Zelda, but then again it has every other game worth
> > >owning for longer than a month. Zelda looks to be THE game for the
> > N64...and
> > >I do mean THE game...Hope you enjoy it, then when yr done go the store &
> > buy
> > >a PSX to play some other worthwhile games, which unfortunately you'll never
> > >find on the N64.
> >
> >
> > Sad but true.
> >
> > SKYE
>
> When I went into a store "blind" to pick a game system, I asked the
> manager what his young employees bought - he told me that most of them got
> the N64. Then, most of them brought it back and got a Playstation.
>
> I got a Playstation.
Oh my God! Zelda is actually coming out? I didnt remember seeing the Jap
version coming out. US version coming out first? simultaneous release? not
likely.
I smell another 1 year delay.
If it comes out, well, I'll just "buy" the N64 again, play this Mario with a sword
game (at most 30 hours) return it, just like Mario.
Fun system for a few hours, but I just cant wait 2 years for a good game.
Remember their ad? Was it worth the wait? Definitely NO.
kwarlord
D wrote in message <3650EF52...@home.net>...
for who? I pre-ordered my copy at EB on 11/2/98. If I don't get my GOLD
cartridge, I swear I'll sue!
>If it comes out, well, I'll just "buy" the N64 again, play this Mario with
a sword
>game (at most 30 hours) return it, just like Mario.
>
>Fun system for a few hours, but I just cant wait 2 years for a good game.
>
>
>
>
>Remember their ad? Was it worth the wait? Definitely NO.
>
>
>
have you been living under a rock? The Zelda commercials are already out,
pre-orders are filled, and websites such as http://www.nintendo.com clearly
state it will be ready Nov. 23, 1998.
KAI
more years
to see what else can N64 come up with.
Believe me, Zelda is their LAST hope
jala...@kepler.poly.edu wrote in message
<72qe0v$dob$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>...
>Oh, damn you mean I have to go back to playin Metal Gear Solid...what a
shame.
>I'm not gonna run out and buy an N64 for just 1 game. That's stupid. I'll
>stick with MGS thank you very much.
>
>In article <364f478...@news.atl.bellsouth.net>,
> nos...@nospam.com wrote:
>> >The Playstation has Xenogears, but I will probably play it after I am
done
>> >with Zelda and I put aside the Game Boy Color for awhile. The local
Best
>> >Buy put out two pallet displays last week. One with about 50
Playstations
>> >and the other with about 50 N64s. I went by today and the Playstation
>> >pallet looks about the same, but the Nintendo pallet is almost empty. I
>> >think this is a sign of the popularity of Zelda. Several people I know
that
>> >are already Playstation owners are finally buying N64s this Christmas.
>> >Really it is the best of both worlds, you just miss out on too much if
you
>> >don't own both.
>> >
>> >silver e wrote:
>> >
>> >> WE have Zelda! what do they have? Tombraider 3? Ha! If I didnt have a
>> >> N64 I'd probably kill myself! A lot of N64 haters r going to be
Myojin Yahiko
bnrtbbf wrote in message ...
>In article <72o409$2q3$1...@camel25.mindspring.com>, "Skye"
><ken...@nospam.netscape.net> wrote:
>
>> otaku...@my-dejanews.com wrote in message
>> <72nr2q$6ha$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>...
>> >Um...PSX doesn't have Zelda, but then again it has every other game
worth
>> >owning for longer than a month. Zelda looks to be THE game for the
>> N64...and
>> >I do mean THE game...Hope you enjoy it, then when yr done go the store &
>> buy
never
>> >find on the N64.
>>
>>
>> Sad but true.
>>
>> SKYE
>
>When I went into a store "blind" to pick a game system, I asked the
>manager what his young employees bought - he told me that most of them got
>the N64. Then, most of them brought it back and got a Playstation.
>
>I got a Playstation.
Oh! I have been fooled! At first i got an N64 when it came out.. then i saw
all the cool Japanese anime games and RPG's, heck, even the fighting games.
Guess what i wanted then?? PSX thank you. Good thing my uncle came along
and gave me his with 10 kickin' games.
Including FF7.
bnrtbbf
otaku...@my-dejanews.com
"Snappdad" <zsm...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
> >Um...PSX doesn't have Zelda, but then again it has every other game worth
> >owning for longer than a month. Zelda looks to be THE game for the
> N64...and
> >I do mean THE game...Hope you enjoy it, then when yr done go the store &
> buy
> >a PSX to play some other worthwhile games, which unfortunately you'll never
> >find on the N64.
> >post.
>
>
Yeah I actually am bitter because I have both systems & only really use one of
them, which I'm sure will be the case once again when I'm done with
Zelda...I'll go back to the PSX & its plethora of RPGs & assorted games
designed for those older than K-6th grade. Right now the N64 is on the shelf
with my dead Tamagotchi...
Zik Zak
[Post knocking N-64 snipped]
> wow are you bitter........................
Actually, bitter describes exactly how I felt for a long time. I was a
huge Nintendo fan on the old 8 bit system. I loved Zelda, Metroid,
Castlevania2, the MegaMan series . . . lots more. When the SNES came out,
I was ecstatic! Super Metroid. Megaman X 1-3, Zelda; a Link to the Past.
Then the N-64 came out.
And I waited. And waited. And waited. Meanwhile, Megaman X4 and
Castlevania; Symphony of the Night came out for the PSX. Finally, I, a
longtime Nintendo fan, broke down and bought a playstation. Why? Because
the games were just not there for the N-64.
I was very bitter. Now, finally, Zelda 64 has come. A step in the
right direction, to be sure. But it's too little, too late. I will
probably buy a N-64 someday to play Zelda, but for now, I will stick with
the PSX and its substantial library of titles.
-Jim S.
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Zik Zak
> Oh my God! Zelda is actually coming out? I didnt remember seeing the Jap
> version coming out. US version coming out first? simultaneous release? not
> likely.
> I smell another 1 year delay.
Well, it is due out here in Japan on the 21st of November. There are adds
on tv for it and it's all over the gaming magazines. Heck, I even bought
64 Dream (a magazine) and got a nice sheet of Zelda stickers.
MorningSword
KAI wrote in message <_j942.2177$%X5.58...@newsgate.direct.ca>...
>All I can say is enjoy Zelda while it last...... and that's wait (mabye)
few
>more years
>to see what else can N64 come up with.
>
>Believe me, Zelda is their LAST hope
>
>
I guess you guys have never heard of Perfect Dark, Orge Battle 3, Earthbound
64, Castlevania 64, Jet Force Gemini, Donkey Kong. These are just a handful
of games that I'm looking forward to in 99. Zelda isn't their LAST hope but
just a beginning for better things to come. I say it gives the N64 a NEW
hope.
ALM
>Oh, damn you mean I have to go back to playin Metal Gear Solid...what a shame.
>I'm not gonna run out and buy an N64 for just 1 game. That's stupid. I'll
>stick with MGS thank you very much.
Well, when FFVII came out, there were plenty of idiots in this
newsgroup who said they boght a PSX just to play that game. So, if
SQUAREheads can do it, you sure can.
This post was brought to you by ALM!
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Morgan
waiting for zelda. I know, you n64ers will jump and say HA, see you bought
it for just one game. Which is not true, it was FF7 that broke the debate in
my mind. What does N64 really have? I hate sports games, so I only play
combat games or rpgs. Now I hear you screaming "Golden Eye". Well I played
it. On a friends system. I didn't like it at all. If I want to play a
shooter, I'll sit at my PC and play something REALLY good like Quake
II....Now back to Zelda. Yes. I've agonized over rushing out to get a system
JUST for one game. But after 72 hours and i've beaten Zelda. Then what? Tell
me, THEN WHAT?? So you'll have to excuse me, I'm off to play Xenogears, or
any of the spankin new Megaman's......enjoy your game.
Zik Zak wrote in message ...
>On Sun, 15 Nov 1998, Snappdad wrote:
>
>
>[Post knocking N-64 snipped]
>
>> wow are you bitter........................
>
>Actually, bitter describes exactly how I felt for a long time. I was a
>huge Nintendo fan on the old 8 bit system. I loved Zelda, Metroid,
>Castlevania2, the MegaMan series . . . lots more. When the SNES came out,
>I was ecstatic! Super Metroid. Megaman X 1-3, Zelda; a Link to the Past.
>Then the N-64 came out.
>
>And I waited. And waited. And waited. Meanwhile, Megaman X4 and
>Castlevania; Symphony of the Night came out for the PSX. Finally, I, a
>longtime Nintendo fan, broke down and bought a playstation. Why? Because
>the games were just not there for the N-64.
>
>I was very bitter. Now, finally, Zelda 64 has come. A step in the
>right direction, to be sure. But it's too little, too late. I will
>probably buy a N-64 someday to play Zelda, but for now, I will stick with
>the PSX and its substantial library of titles.
>
>
>
>
Rufus
(Its about the games!)
>>>
>>> SKYE
>>
>>When I went into a store "blind" to pick a game system, I asked the
>>manager what his young employees bought - he told me that most of them got
>>the N64. Then, most of them brought it back and got a Playstation.
>>
>>I got a Playstation.
>
>
Rufus
(Its about the games!)
Now tring to get the dreamcast,PSX2,&Nintendo128 will be expinsive.
(Then its about who's gonna get the most games!)
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co...@spamjmu.edu
Goldeneye when it first came out, but I didn't think it looked very good
(at the time I was an avid Quake player). I played it for a bit and
thought, "this is crap next to Quake ... the multiplayer is weak and it's
just too slow" But, then I played it a little more about a month or two
later and I started getting into the single-player. The two games are
really completely different. Nothing can match Quake (Quake II) in
multi-player, but Goldeneye is in a league of its own in single-player
missions. I'm still playing it and I got it about a year ago (just gotta
beat Aztec and Egyptian!).
Jimmi Alexander
> I do mean THE game...Hope you enjoy it, then when yr done go the store & buy
> a PSX to play some other worthwhile games, which unfortunately you'll never
> find on the N64.
>
> unless yr twelve & enjoy snowboarding/wrestling games...then disregard this
> post.
>
Oh yes, once I buy a Playstation I can buy all those games that are
really good and aren't all exactly the same as each other. Just imagine
how excellent it will be to spend my nights playing Apocalypse, Ninja,
Coolboarders 3, Wild 9, Assault, Crash Bandicoot, Tomb Raider.....I
can't wait. I'm off to the shops right now. See ya and thanks for the
advice.
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you have to pick from is a big pile of turds.
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Jimmi Alexander wrote in message <3651EC...@netcomuk.co.uk>...
Robert Chang
<cwmi...@uiuc.edu> wrote:
> Ah, the tried and false "all the games are crap" spiel.
>
> Jimmi Alexander wrote in message <3651EC...@netcomuk.co.uk>...
> >They may be cheap and there may be a choice but what is choice when all
> >you have to pick from is a big pile of turds.
> >--
I think we could use a FAQ for system bashing. At least that way, we could
avoid some of these more tired and pointless posts. ;)
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Matt Seidl
<7km42.1300$Ip6....@news13.ispnews.com>...
>Ah, the tried and false "all the games are crap" spiel.
Well if Deception 2 is "turd", just call me a dung beetle!
Morgan
me run right out and get that one. Seriously, I'd like someone to post 10
<non-sports> related N64 games, that are good.
Go ahead.
Try.
I'll match you game for game with PS stuff.
Matt Seidl wrote in message ...
Matt Seidl
>And of course, all N64 game are awesome. Like Dark
gods....hhhhoooboy....let
>me run right out and get that one. Seriously, I'd like someone to post 10
><non-sports> related N64 games, that are good.
>Go ahead.
>Try.
>I'll match you game for game with PS stuff.
Well, WCW/NWO World Tour and Revenge are definitely superior to any PSX
wrestling game (available in the US, anyway). I don't think you'll be able
to find anything to match Zelda either.
I just can't envision relying solely on a N64 for my gaming fix, that's all.
Joshua S Redford
system and will have others that we like to play after we are done with
Zelda.
Joshua S Redford
red...@acsu.buffalo.edu
W. Benjamin Fletcher
Jimmi Alexander wrote in message <3651EC...@netcomuk.co.uk>...
>They may be cheap and there may be a choice but what is choice when all
>you have to pick from is a big pile of turds.
>--
Ben
Joshua S Redford
> And of course, all N64 game are awesome. Like Dark gods....hhhhoooboy....let
> me run right out and get that one. Seriously, I'd like someone to post 10
> <non-sports> related N64 games, that are good.
> Go ahead.
> Try.
> I'll match you game for game with PS stuff.
Did you mean to say War Gods or is there another crappy N64 game with gods
in the title.
Josh Redford
Charles Miller Jr.
>I think we could use a FAQ for system bashing. At least that way, we could
>avoid some of these more tired and pointless posts. ;)
Oh man... you have a point. :)
I think we should just make an 'Eliza' that is a system basher rather than a
shrink. lol
Charles Miller Jr.
>>Ah, the tried and false "all the games are crap" spiel.
>Well if Deception 2 is "turd", just call me a dung beetle!
Lol, or like in that 'A Bug's Life' comercial. "Who had the Poo Poo
platter?"
Charles Miller Jr.
>Did you mean to say War Gods or is there another crappy N64 game with gods
>in the title.
WUR GAWDZ ROX!!!!!!!!!!
D
"W. Benjamin Fletcher" wrote:
No way, if he is, then he would have said... " a SMALL pile of turds."
Cmdr_Joe
ALM wrote in message <36518027...@news.pressroom.com>...
>Well, when FFVII came out, there were plenty of idiots in this
>newsgroup who said they boght a PSX just to play that game.
You know, I did just that. I bought a used PSX so I could own FF7. I rented
FF7 from blockbuster (7 day rental) and liked it. Liked it. I got to the
final battle between Sephiroth and Clouds party on the 6th day of the
rental. That was 3 months ago and I have rented 3 PSX titles since then. I
have rented about 10 N64 titles in that same 3 month period. Playstation
titles just don't seem to grab my attention as much as N64 titles. Just
recently I rented Metal Gear Solid (PSX). I loved it, I thought it was a
great game. I loved the AI and the levels and the interaction you had with
the enviroment. I right now have Twisted Metal 2 in my PSX and I enjoy it,
not quite love it, but I enjoy it.
Both the PSX and N64 have great titles on their side, the graphics are
comparable, the N64 does have the advantage (Though one can hardly compare
apples to oranges, in other words 64bit to 32bit). PSX has FMV, but who
really buys a game because it has FMV? Anyone out there? FMV is just a neat
add on. Like in Metal Gear Solid (PSX), with the A-Bomb footage. It was
neat, but had no direct impact on how I enjoyed the game itself.
So if we gamers could stop this useless N64 Vs. Playstation bitching, it
would be much appreciated. No matter how much you think whatever system
rules, you will never change anyone's opinion about anything. Buy whatever
system you like, please don't try and argue which is better, it is useless.
Each system has its ups and downs. If you can, own both systems and enjoy
each one to its potential.
If you read this far, good for you, this rant is over! Well, almost :)
FYI: I am not a 12 year old who enjoys cheesy Snow Boarding games or
wrestling games (No offense intended to fans of such titles). I got tired of
1080 within the first 3 hours of gameplay. I also don't think the N64 is a
childs system. It is a serious system with some serious potential. Though
that potential has been realized in only some games (Goldeneye, Forsaken,
and a few others.) I am sure owners of the N64 will be justified in their
purchase soon enough.
Okay, now this rant is truly over. If you read this whole thing, pat
yourself on the back.
Bye.
Tim
jala...@kepler.poly.edu wrote in message
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awag...@linknet.kitsap.lib.wa.us
> >Ah, the tried and false "all the games are crap" spiel.
>
> Well if Deception 2 is "turd", just call me a dung beetle!
Agreed. If Xenogears and Monster Rancher are crap, I'll be more than happy to
roll in filth.
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Jimmi Alexander <jim...@netcomuk.co.uk> wrote:
> Zelda looks to be THE game for the N64...and
> > I do mean THE game...Hope you enjoy it, then when yr done go the store & buy
> > a PSX to play some other worthwhile games, which unfortunately you'll never
> > find on the N64.
> >
> > unless yr twelve & enjoy snowboarding/wrestling games...then disregard this
> > post.
> >
>
> Oh yes, once I buy a Playstation I can buy all those games that are
> really good and aren't all exactly the same as each other. Just imagine
> how excellent it will be to spend my nights playing Apocalypse, Ninja,
> Coolboarders 3, Wild 9, Assault, Crash Bandicoot, Tomb Raider.....I
> can't wait. I'm off to the shops right now. See ya and thanks for the
> advice.
Well then, I guess Doom and Quake and GoldenEye aren't all exactly the same?
What kind of a moron are you, exactly? How is Coolboarders 3 anything like
Tomb Raider? And what about Mario64 and Banjo? Mario Kart 64 and Diddy Kong
Racing? Seems like Nintendo is a bigger perpetrator than Sony is, and a more
solid perpetrator, at that. Hell, I wanted to play Tomb Raider, but I already
have Wild 9, so why should I bother.
Jackass.
Zik Zak
> Both the PSX and N64 have great titles on their side, the graphics are
> comparable, the N64 does have the advantage (Though one can hardly compare
> apples to oranges, in other words 64bit to 32bit). PSX has FMV, but who
> really buys a game because it has FMV? Anyone out there? FMV is just a neat
> add on. Like in Metal Gear Solid (PSX), with the A-Bomb footage. It was
> neat, but had no direct impact on how I enjoyed the game itself.
A good point. FMV was nead, for example, in Megaman X4. BUt in general,
it's just a nice little extra. Not a selling point. SOmetimes, it can
even be too much.
> So if we gamers could stop this useless N64 Vs. Playstation bitching, it
> would be much appreciated. No matter how much you think whatever system
> rules, you will never change anyone's opinion about anything. Buy whatever
> system you like, please don't try and argue which is better, it is useless.
> Each system has its ups and downs. If you can, own both systems and enjoy
> each one to its potential.
Here here! Truer words were never spoken. (Well, truer words probably
were spoken, but not on this thread) Better is such a subjective term,
with a different meaning for each person. Some people value different
things. I suppose if you were just interested in japanese 'adult' games,
you'd have to say the Saturn was the 'best' system.
(A lone voice of readon . . . I bet it gets drowned out amid the ruckus)
Elric...@my-dejanews.com
> you have to pick from is a big pile of turds.
> --
>
Aeroguage, Clayfighters 33 1/3, Cruisin' USA, Shadows of the Empire, War
Gods,...Are those some of the turds your talking about ? I can keep going if
you like. True the psx has it's turds too, but with its larger library of
games, it can afford to have turds and still have plenty of gems too.
Nintendo can't afford to have turds, but seem to have more than its fair
share.
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Ray
awag...@linknet.kitsap.lib.wa.us wrote:
>Hell, I wanted to play Tomb Raider, but I already
>have Wild 9, so why should I bother.
You should bother. Those two games are nothing alike. Tomb Raider is a
third person adventure game, while Wild 9 is a side scrolling platform
game. They are two different categories entirely.
Rufus
but nintendo has more quality games(% wise) than the PS does. Hell I think the ps has a racing
game that scored a zero I think.
In article <72ue08$rif$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>, Elric...@my-dejanews.com says...
Morgan
WCW.....
Matt Seidl wrote in message
>Morgan wrote in message <72ssp9$hct$1...@eve.enteract.com>...
>>And of course, all N64 game are awesome. Like Dark
>gods....hhhhoooboy....let
>>me run right out and get that one. Seriously, I'd like someone to post 10
>><non-sports> related N64 games, that are good.
>>Go ahead.
>>Try.
>>I'll match you game for game with PS stuff.
>
>
simon
>They may be cheap and there may be a choice but what is choice when all
>you have to pick from is a big pile of turds.
are you referring to the playstation, it has many more amazing games than
the n64 has, and a lot of 'not bad' quick fix type games that you can play
when you have half an hour spare!
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Darien Allen
<jim...@netcomuk.co.uk> tried to run this line:
>Zelda looks to be THE game for the N64...and
>> I do mean THE game...Hope you enjoy it, then when yr done go the store & buy
>> a PSX to play some other worthwhile games, which unfortunately you'll never
>> find on the N64.
>>
>> unless yr twelve & enjoy snowboarding/wrestling games...then disregard this
>> post.
>>
>
>
>Oh yes, once I buy a Playstation I can buy all those games that are
>really good and aren't all exactly the same as each other. Just imagine
>how excellent it will be to spend my nights playing Apocalypse, Ninja,
>Coolboarders 3, Wild 9, Assault, Crash Bandicoot, Tomb Raider.....I
>can't wait. I'm off to the shops right now. See ya and thanks for the
>advice.
It must be hard being like this...tell me does your asshole hurt all
of time?
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Elric...@my-dejanews.com
bro...@intersatx.net (Rufus) wrote:
> I'm sorry the Playstation has a mountain high pile of turds for games and some diamonds in their
> but nintendo has more quality games(% wise) than the PS does. Hell I think the ps has a racing
> game that scored a zero I think.
>
gave Olympic hockey Nagano 98 a big fat 0.
Anyway, thats not what I want to say.
Not that it's going to stop the arguing here,
but I've done some math just to satisfy my
own curiosity and I thought you might find it
interesting.
I've averaged out all the review scores on the
IGN site for both N64 and the PSX.
( I used the IGN site 'cause they list their scores
alongside the game listings, so I wouldn't have
to go to each game review individually.)
Well here we go ( drum roll please...)
N64 average game score is 6.8
PSX average score is 6.5
Now I know this is based on just one sites
reviews, but it give you a good idea anyway.
So you see, we are all insulting and flaming
each other over 0.3 points. It seem to me that the
two consoles are both average.
Just trying to make some peace between the two
warring factions...
Thanx for your time
Elric Drake
Jimmi Alexander
>
> All I can say is enjoy Zelda while it last...... and that's wait (mabye) few
> more years
> to see what else can N64 come up with.
>
> Believe me, Zelda is their LAST hope
Well, MGS is the Playstations last hurrah.
To say Zelda is the last hope is a bit silly considering all the other
titles in development. Turok 2 is going to be big and bloody great.
Rogue Squadron, Banjo 2, all sports games, GT World Tour, Micro
Machines, V-Rally, WCW Revenge, South Park, Perfect Dark....there is a
long list now of really top games.
Kyle...just Kyle
Rufus wrote in message <72ulbn$eu3$2...@hornet.fibr.net>...
>I'm sorry the Playstation has a mountain high pile of turds for games and
some diamonds in their
>but nintendo has more quality games(% wise) than the PS does. Hell I think
the ps has a racing
>game that scored a zero I think.
It's easy to say that the Playstation has more percentage of crap, but can
you actually show how you arrived at that conclusion?
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Morgan wrote in message <72um4b$t21$1...@eve.enteract.com>...
>Wrestling was a sport....last time I check. Even if it's a fake one like
>WCW.....
No, it's sports entertainment.
Jimmi Alexander
>
> Well then, I guess Doom and Quake and GoldenEye aren't all exactly the same?
> What kind of a moron are you, exactly? How is Coolboarders 3 anything like
> Tomb Raider? And what about Mario64 and Banjo? Mario Kart 64 and Diddy Kong
> Racing? Seems like Nintendo is a bigger perpetrator than Sony is, and a more
> have Wild 9, so why should I bother.
>
er......you twat
tomb raider 3...... Cool Boarders 3....get it. F1-98 (version3), Crash
3. Tekken 3.
Then think of all those shit shoot-em ups. The list is endless.
What about Mario and Banjo? Similar games....all two of them. Forget the
fact they are both fantastic. Mario and Diddy all two of them again. So
if Nintendo is guilty of producing the same games because it has got two
of them then, fucking hell, Sony must be the antichrist then.
>
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>
> Look, this day Tue, 17 Nov 1998 21:36:10 +0000, Jimmi Alexander
> <jim...@netcomuk.co.uk> tried to run this line:
>
> >Zelda looks to be THE game for the N64...and
> >> I do mean THE game...Hope you enjoy it, then when yr done go the store & buy
> >> a PSX to play some other worthwhile games, which unfortunately you'll never
> >> find on the N64.
> >>
> >> unless yr twelve & enjoy snowboarding/wrestling games...then disregard this
> >> post.
> >>
> >
> >
> >Oh yes, once I buy a Playstation I can buy all those games that are
> >really good and aren't all exactly the same as each other. Just imagine
> >how excellent it will be to spend my nights playing Apocalypse, Ninja,
> >Coolboarders 3, Wild 9, Assault, Crash Bandicoot, Tomb Raider.....I
> >can't wait. I'm off to the shops right now. See ya and thanks for the
> >advice.
>
> It must be hard being like this...tell me does your asshole hurt all
> of time?
>
Yes it does actually how did you guess? You must be some kind of
psychic.
Matt Seidl
>fact they are both fantastic. Mario and Diddy all two of them again. So
>if Nintendo is guilty of producing the same games because it has got two
>of them then, fucking hell, Sony must be the antichrist then.
Mario, Banjo, Banjo 2, Conkers Quest, Glover, Buck Bumble...
Charles Miller Jr.
a sport.
Kyle...just Kyle wrote in message <72v8vh$p6d$1...@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu>...
Eric Chapin
>
> Well here we go ( drum roll please...)
>
> N64 average game score is 6.8
> PSX average score is 6.5
>
> Now I know this is based on just one sites
> reviews, but it give you a good idea anyway.
> So you see, we are all insulting and flaming
> each other over 0.3 points. It seem to me that the
> two consoles are both average.
> Just trying to make some peace between the two
> warring factions...
0.3 points isn't the problem. It's the troll thaty comes here and
starts a long thread like these that is the problem. If we could ban
troll here, then we wouldn't be arquing over .3 measly points.
Morgan
Jimmi Alexander wrote in message <365327...@netcomuk.co.uk>...
Kyle...just Kyle
Charles Miller Jr. wrote in message ...
>It's as much a sport as gymnastics, and last time I checked, gymnastics was
>a sport.
Gymnastics has an element of competition. As far as I know wrestling
doesn't.
Rufus
saying the playstion doesnt get decent games but they get horrible games way more times than the
N64 does. But i'm not saying my N64 collects dust also. It collects it from the lack of games.
In article <72v8uo$p69$1...@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu>, ky...@digital-ages.com says...
>
>
>Rufus wrote in message <72ulbn$eu3$2...@hornet.fibr.net>...
>>I'm sorry the Playstation has a mountain high pile of turds for games and
>some diamonds in their
>>but nintendo has more quality games(% wise) than the PS does. Hell I think
>the ps has a racing
>>game that scored a zero I think.
>
>
>It's easy to say that the Playstation has more percentage of crap, but can
>you actually show how you arrived at that conclusion?
>
B. Smith
Giving the average score for the games on each system may be a little
misleading here. Consider this (highly simplified) example...
Two games have been reviewed for each system and were given the following
scores:
N64:
game 1 - 5.0
game 2 - 5.0
average = 5.0
PSX:
game 1 - 1.0
game 2 - 9.0
average = 5.0
Both systems have the same average, but game 2 for the PSX is the highest
rated game. Now, what should we call a "quality" game? If a "quality"
game is one scoring a 5.0 or greater, then the N64 has more quality games.
On the other hand, if a "quality" game is one scoring a 7.5 or greater,
then the PSX has more quality games. I believe the argument is that one
system has _more_ quality games than the other. The average score can not
be used to settle this dispute.
What would be extremely interesting to see is this: Decide on a minimum
score a game must receive in order to be considered a quality game. I
would suggest something around 7.5. Then compare the _number_ of N64
games scoring 7.5 or better to the _number_ of PSX games scoring 7.5 or
better.
Just trying to put my statistics degree to some good use.
Skye
Rufus wrote in message <72vfee$sku$1...@hornet.fibr.net>...
>Because my playstation sometimes collect dust when game are being release
every month.
Actually, the reason is that you're an idiot.
Skye
Rufus
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otaku...@my-dejanews.com
"Cmdr_Joe" <cmdr...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> ALM wrote in message <36518027...@news.pressroom.com>...
> >Well, when FFVII came out, there were plenty of idiots in this
> >newsgroup who said they boght a PSX just to play that game.
>
> You know, I did just that. I bought a used PSX so I could own FF7. I rented
> FF7 from blockbuster (7 day rental) and liked it. Liked it. I got to the
> final battle between Sephiroth and Clouds party on the 6th day of the
> rental. That was 3 months ago and I have rented 3 PSX titles since then. I
> have rented about 10 N64 titles in that same 3 month period. Playstation
> titles just don't seem to grab my attention as much as N64 titles. Just
> recently I rented Metal Gear Solid (PSX). I loved it, I thought it was a
> great game. I loved the AI and the levels and the interaction you had with
> the enviroment. I right now have Twisted Metal 2 in my PSX and I enjoy it,
> not quite love it, but I enjoy it.
>
> Both the PSX and N64 have great titles on their side, the graphics are
> comparable, the N64 does have the advantage (Though one can hardly compare
> apples to oranges, in other words 64bit to 32bit). PSX has FMV, but who
> really buys a game because it has FMV? Anyone out there? FMV is just a neat
> add on. Like in Metal Gear Solid (PSX), with the A-Bomb footage. It was
> neat, but had no direct impact on how I enjoyed the game itself.
>
> would be much appreciated. No matter how much you think whatever system
> rules, you will never change anyone's opinion about anything. Buy whatever
> system you like, please don't try and argue which is better, it is useless.
> Each system has its ups and downs. If you can, own both systems and enjoy
> each one to its potential.
>
>
> FYI: I am not a 12 year old who enjoys cheesy Snow Boarding games or
> wrestling games (No offense intended to fans of such titles). I got tired of
> 1080 within the first 3 hours of gameplay. I also don't think the N64 is a
> childs system. It is a serious system with some serious potential. Though
> that potential has been realized in only some games (Goldeneye, Forsaken,
> and a few others.) I am sure owners of the N64 will be justified in their
> purchase soon enough.
>
> Okay, now this rant is truly over. If you read this whole thing, pat
> yourself on the back.
>
> Bye.
>
OK enough system bashing I guess...this thread is getting a little tedious (I
think it reached an all time low in the "turd" repartee a few days ago). I'm
just afraid I'm at a total loss when honestly trying to understand N64
fandom. I mean, I own the system & I've really tried to get my $$ worth out
of it but I can't help but feel let down, especially in the face of its
technical capabilities, which apparently Nintendo has seen fit to "squander"
(in my narrow point of view I guess) on titles I personally don't enjoy,
though it looks like quite a crowd does enjoy them. Its just unfortunate
that the system didn't expand its demographic to include freaks like me,
member of RPGamers Anonymous. I am somewhat excited about Zelda & am
patiently awaiting more games that fit my style, but until then I think my
PSX will get more wear-&- tear, especially with that PocketStation thingy
coming out...the concept of developing my characters stats while I'm at work
just seems so incredibly alluring.
A bow to the poster before me. I respect your argument.
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How is Glover and Buck Bumble like the rest of these?
Josh Redford
(especially Buck Bumble)
quirk999
or Blast Corps? One of the first game to come out on the N64 is still one of
the most original and fun-to-play games out there.
-quirk999
quirk999
Ya know, there is 22 RPGs in development for the N64 at the moment and more on
that way... does that suit your tastes?
-quirk999
quirk999
Jimmi Alexander wrote:
> KAI wrote:
> >
> > All I can say is enjoy Zelda while it last...... and that's wait (mabye) few
> > more years
> > to see what else can N64 come up with.
> >
> > Believe me, Zelda is their LAST hope
>
> Well, MGS is the Playstations last hurrah.
>
MGS is Playstations last hurrah? So much for saving the best for last... :)
-quirk999
>
> To say Zelda is the last hope is a bit silly considering all the other
> titles in development. Turok 2 is going to be big and bloody great.
> Rogue Squadron, Banjo 2, all sports games, GT World Tour, Micro
> Machines, V-Rally, WCW Revenge, South Park, Perfect Dark....there is a
> long list now of really top games.
>
quirk999
> Charles Miller Jr. wrote in message ...
> >It's as much a sport as gymnastics, and last time I checked, gymnastics was
> >a sport.
>
> Gymnastics has an element of competition. As far as I know wrestling
> doesn't.
>
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I think there is wrestling in the Olympics but besides that and high-school
wrestling... wrestling isn't a sport. It's an act, a show, just really
baddly-done stunts (I'm sorry if this comes as a shock to you...).
-quirk999
Kyle...just Kyle
quirk999 wrote in message <36536F57...@forfree.at>...
I found it innovative but entirely lacking in fun.
Kyle...just Kyle
quirk999 wrote in message <36537161...@forfree.at>...
>"Kyle...just Kyle" wrote:
>
>> Charles Miller Jr. wrote in message ...
>> >It's as much a sport as gymnastics, and last time I checked, gymnastics
was
>> >a sport.
>>
>> Gymnastics has an element of competition. As far as I know wrestling
>> doesn't.
>>
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>> ----- http://www.digital-ages.com
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>> ------------------------------
>
>wrestling... wrestling isn't a sport. It's an act, a show, just really
Some of those stunts require a high degree of skill and dexterity. I'm
impressed at their physical skills.
kl...@uswest.net
do have good taste, while your at it, I suggest you go purchase a copy Metal Gear
Solid and present yourself a REAL game.
Edward J. Pollard
awag...@linknet.kitsap.lib.wa.us wrote:
> In article <365325...@netcomuk.co.uk>,
> Jimmi Alexander <jim...@netcomuk.co.uk> wrote:
> > KAI wrote:
> > >
> > > All I can say is enjoy Zelda while it last...... and that's wait
(mabye) few
> > > more years
> > > to see what else can N64 come up with.
> > >
> > > Believe me, Zelda is their LAST hope
> >
> > Well, MGS is the Playstations last hurrah.
> >
>
> Yeah, you're right. Oh, wait. There's Final Fantasy 8, Oddworld: Abe's
> Exoddus, Global Domination, Bust-a-Groove, Daikatana, Legacy of Kain: Soul
> Reaver, Lunar, Master of Monsters, Shadow Madness, Silent Hill, Silhouette
> Mirage, StarCon, Tail Concerto and Tiny Tank to look forward to. So I guess
> MGS *isn't* the Playstation's (note apostrophe usage) last hurrah after all.
> Whaddya know?
One thing I have noticed about usenet, is that regardless of how good their
ideas may or may not be, anyone who is pretentious enough to comment on
grammar or punctuation is simply not worth listening too.
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"Kyle...just Kyle" <ky...@digital-ages.com> wrote:
>
> Charles Miller Jr. wrote in message ...
> >It's as much a sport as gymnastics, and last time I checked, gymnastics was
> >a sport.
>
> Gymnastics has an element of competition. As far as I know wrestling
> doesn't.
>
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>
>
Come on Kyle, of course wrestling has competition. These guys have to compete
with eachother to see who can over-act the most! ;)
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Jimmi Alexander <jim...@netcomuk.co.uk> wrote:
> KAI wrote:
> >
> > All I can say is enjoy Zelda while it last...... and that's wait (mabye) few
> > more years
> > to see what else can N64 come up with.
> >
> > Believe me, Zelda is their LAST hope
>
> Well, MGS is the Playstations last hurrah.
>
Yeah, you're right. Oh, wait. There's Final Fantasy 8, Oddworld: Abe's
Exoddus, Global Domination, Bust-a-Groove, Daikatana, Legacy of Kain: Soul
Reaver, Lunar, Master of Monsters, Shadow Madness, Silent Hill, Silhouette
Mirage, StarCon, Tail Concerto and Tiny Tank to look forward to. So I guess
MGS *isn't* the Playstation's (note apostrophe usage) last hurrah after all.
Whaddya know?
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Jimmi Alexander <jim...@netcomuk.co.uk> wrote:
> Darien Allen wrote:
> >
> > Look, this day Tue, 17 Nov 1998 21:36:10 +0000, Jimmi Alexander
> > <jim...@netcomuk.co.uk> tried to run this line:
> >
> > >Zelda looks to be THE game for the N64...and
> > >> I do mean THE game...Hope you enjoy it, then when yr done go the store & buy
> > >> a PSX to play some other worthwhile games, which unfortunately you'll never
> > >> find on the N64.
> > >>
> > >> unless yr twelve & enjoy snowboarding/wrestling games...then disregard this
> > >> post.
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >really good and aren't all exactly the same as each other. Just imagine
> > >how excellent it will be to spend my nights playing Apocalypse, Ninja,
> > >Coolboarders 3, Wild 9, Assault, Crash Bandicoot, Tomb Raider.....I
> > >can't wait. I'm off to the shops right now. See ya and thanks for the
> > >advice.
> >
> > of time?
> >
>
> Yes it does actually how did you guess? You must be some kind of
> psychic.
Maybe if you stopped talking out of it all the time, it might get a chance to
heal.
Matt Seidl
>Josh Redford
>(especially Buck Bumble)
Mario 64 with wings. :)
Rufus
When two companies compete like this bringing out more games I feel happy just owning both :-) So
on top of those games I'll be playing Turok2,Rogue Squadron,Superman64(dont know about this),
Nintendo smash brothers,Perfect dark,Ogre battle 3,Hybrid heaven,Winback,Pokemon stadium,Top gear
overdrive,Star wars: Pod racer,Castlvania64,Contra Spirits64,Earthbound64,Micromachine 64,Jet
force gemini,GT worldtour,Shadowman,Shadowgate,Survivor day one and who knows what else what
secret project is coming for either system. Happy gaming
>
>Yeah, you're right. Oh, wait. There's Final Fantasy 8, Oddworld: Abe's
>Exoddus, Global Domination, Bust-a-Groove, Daikatana, Legacy of Kain: Soul
>Reaver, Lunar, Master of Monsters, Shadow Madness, Silent Hill, Silhouette
>Mirage, StarCon, Tail Concerto and Tiny Tank to look forward to. So I guess
>MGS *isn't* the Playstation's (note apostrophe usage) last hurrah after all.
>Whaddya know?
>
Jake Kesinger
: Giving the average score for the games on each system may be a little
: misleading here. Consider this (highly simplified) example...
: Two games have been reviewed for each system and were given the following
: scores:
[Example deleted]
: What would be extremely interesting to see is this: Decide on a minimum
: score a game must receive in order to be considered a quality game. I
: would suggest something around 7.5. Then compare the _number_ of N64
: games scoring 7.5 or better to the _number_ of PSX games scoring 7.5 or
: better.
I'd also like to see the variance (standard error, standard deviation) of
the scores. Is a difference-in-means of 0.3 really signifigant? (I
personally doubt it).
: Just trying to put my statistics degree to some good use.
Hm. Stats degree, U of Iowa address. That's where Hogg[1] is from,
isn't it?
==Jake
[1] Co-author of a highly popular mathematical statistics text.
Joshua S Redford
But he shoots so wouldn't it be a Tomb Raider with wings :)
Josh Redford
otaku...@my-dejanews.com
"Kyle...just Kyle" <ky...@digital-ages.com> wrote:
>
> quirk999 wrote in message <36537161...@forfree.at>...
> >
> >> Charles Miller Jr. wrote in message ...
> >> >It's as much a sport as gymnastics, and last time I checked, gymnastics
> was
> >> >a sport.
> >>
> >> Gymnastics has an element of competition. As far as I know wrestling
> >> doesn't.
> >>
> >> ------------------------------
> >> Digital-Ages Dreamcast, N64, PSX, etc
> >> ----- http://www.digital-ages.com
> >> Currently being given away: N64 Buck Bumble stuff
> >> ------------------------------
> >
> >wrestling... wrestling isn't a sport. It's an act, a show, just really
>
> Some of those stunts require a high degree of skill and dexterity. I'm
> impressed at their physical skills.
>
may not be a sport, but it is an art form.
Nevertheless, I think it makes for pretty darn lame videogames. I'd rather
watch the pros.
otaku...@my-dejanews.com
quir...@email.com wrote:
> otaku...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
> > OK enough system bashing I guess...this thread is getting a little tedious
(I
> > think it reached an all time low in the "turd" repartee a few days ago).
I'm
> > just afraid I'm at a total loss when honestly trying to understand N64
> > fandom. I mean, I own the system & I've really tried to get my $$ worth out
> > of it but I can't help but feel let down, especially in the face of its
> > technical capabilities, which apparently Nintendo has seen fit to "squander"
> > (in my narrow point of view I guess) on titles I personally don't enjoy,
> > though it looks like quite a crowd does enjoy them. Its just unfortunate
> > that the system didn't expand its demographic to include freaks like me,
> > member of RPGamers Anonymous. I am somewhat excited about Zelda & am
> > patiently awaiting more games that fit my style, but until then I think my
> > PSX will get more wear-&- tear, especially with that PocketStation thingy
> > coming out...the concept of developing my characters stats while I'm at work
> > just seems so incredibly alluring.
> >
> > A bow to the poster before me. I respect your argument.
> >
> > http://www.dejanews.com/rg_mkgrp.xp Create Your Own Free Member Forum
>
> that way... does that suit your tastes?
>
> -quirk999
Actually...hell yeah. But when are they arriving? This is important because
when the Dreamcast is available, i'll be jumping on it like a fly on shit & I
might not have the $$ left for N64 games. Please provide info. I'm extremely
intoxicated right now so pardon the telegraphic language. STOP.
Kyle...just Kyle
Jimmi Alexander wrote in message <3651EC...@netcomuk.co.uk>...
>They may be cheap and there may be a choice but what is choice when all
>you have to pick from is a big pile of turds.
I don't know if it's just me, but I generally associate the usage of "turd"
with someone of limited intellect.
KAI
>> In article <365325...@netcomuk.co.uk>,
>> Jimmi Alexander <jim...@netcomuk.co.uk> wrote:
>> > KAI wrote:
>> > >
>> > > All I can say is enjoy Zelda while it last...... and that's wait
>(mabye) few
>> > > more years
>> > > to see what else can N64 come up with.
>> > >
>> > > Believe me, Zelda is their LAST hope
>> >
>> > Well, MGS is the Playstations last hurrah.
Well.. i don't know about US, but that's see....
Dragon Quest 7, Final Fantasy 8 (probably 9 as well),
Chrono Trigger 2, SaGa Frontier 2, Genso Suikoden 2,
Tomb Raider 3, Resident Evil 3, etc.. the BIG name
titles goes on and on... oh boy, i guess it will be
a very LONG hurrah don't you think ?? ^_^
KAI
Elric...@my-dejanews.com
"B. Smith" <bjs...@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu> wrote:
>
> Giving the average score for the games on each system may be a little
> misleading here. Consider this (highly simplified) example...
>
> Two games have been reviewed for each system and were given the following
> scores:
>
> game 1 - 5.0
> game 2 - 5.0
> average = 5.0
>
> PSX:
> game 1 - 1.0
> game 2 - 9.0
> average = 5.0
>
> Both systems have the same average, but game 2 for the PSX is the highest
> rated game. Now, what should we call a "quality" game? If a "quality"
> game is one scoring a 5.0 or greater, then the N64 has more quality games.
> On the other hand, if a "quality" game is one scoring a 7.5 or greater,
> then the PSX has more quality games. I believe the argument is that one
> system has _more_ quality games than the other. The average score can not
> be used to settle this dispute.
>
> score a game must receive in order to be considered a quality game. I
> would suggest something around 7.5. Then compare the _number_ of N64
> games scoring 7.5 or better to the _number_ of PSX games scoring 7.5 or
> better.
>
>
Ok, here you go. I did what you suggested, using 7.0 as a minimum score.
Here is how it looks:
Nintendo 57%
PSX 55%
That is not a big difference. The only thing is the volume of psx games over
N64 which give us a larger choice of games.
Here are my figure ( 'cause I'm poor at math :-) -now dont bitch at me, I
know that more games exist than this for both systems, but these were the one
they had reviews for.
N64 total - 102
N64 7.0 or greater - 53
PSX total - 313
PSX 7.0 or greater - 171
If my calculations are wrong, I'm sure someone will tell me :-)
Later.
--
"Blood & Souls for my Lord Arioch"
Elric...@my-dejanews.com
Elric...@my-dejanews.com
kesi...@math.ttu.edu (Jake Kesinger) wrote:
> B. Smith (bjs...@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu) wrote:
>
> : Giving the average score for the games on each system may be a little
> : misleading here. Consider this (highly simplified) example...
>
> : Two games have been reviewed for each system and were given the following
> : scores:
> : What would be extremely interesting to see is this: Decide on a minimum
> : score a game must receive in order to be considered a quality game. I
> : would suggest something around 7.5. Then compare the _number_ of N64
> : games scoring 7.5 or better to the _number_ of PSX games scoring 7.5 or
> : better.
>
> the scores. Is a difference-in-means of 0.3 really signifigant? (I
> personally doubt it).
>
> : Just trying to put my statistics degree to some good use.
>
> Hm. Stats degree, U of Iowa address. That's where Hogg[1] is from,
> isn't it?
>
> ==Jake
>
> [1] Co-author of a highly popular mathematical statistics text.
>
I doubt that a 0.3 is signifigant. Like I said, these scores were taken from
one site only. To be more precise I would have to go to all review sites and
find the average score for each game individually and thats too much work :-)
I did post percentages of games over 7.0 on this thread if your interested
though.
Thanx.
Snappdad
>Well.. i don't know about US, but that's see....
>Dragon Quest 7, Final Fantasy 8 (probably 9 as well),
>Chrono Trigger 2, SaGa Frontier 2, Genso Suikoden 2,
>Tomb Raider 3, Resident Evil 3, etc.. the BIG name
>titles goes on and on... oh boy, i guess it will be
>a very LONG hurrah don't you think ?? ^_^
not complaining or anything just making an observation..............ever
notice psx sequals are numbered and nintendos has a 64 behind
it..............weird
Darien Allen
tried to run this line:
>Because my playstation sometimes collect dust when game are being release every month.I'm not
>saying the playstion doesnt get decent games but they get horrible games way more times than the
>N64 does. But i'm not saying my N64 collects dust also. It collects it from the lack of games.
That proves nothing...just because games are getting released that YOU
don't want to play...does't mean that they are the genre that someone
else wants to play.
-----------------------------
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"I don't have an attitude problem. You have a perception problem."
Gotta remove stuff to reply to this via email.
Darien Allen
<patr...@forfree.at> tried to run this line:
>
>Ya know, there is 22 RPGs in development for the N64 at the moment and more on
>that way... does that suit your tastes?
Honestly? No, because development titles have a habit of s t r e t c
h i n g itself into a LONG time...or simply fading away.
Rufus
market DC dies in one blow from the PSN128's first generation games. MWHAHAHAHAHA
>N64 total - 102
>N64 7.0 or greater - 53
>
>PSX total - 313
>PSX 7.0 or greater - 171
>
>If my calculations are wrong, I'm sure someone will tell me :-)
>Later.
>
Rufus
him( I feel like ZFP).
In article <3656296f...@news.earthlink.net>, darie...@hotmailtakethisout.com says...
>
>Look, this day 18 Nov 1998 21:50:06 GMT, bro...@intersatx.net (Rufus)
>tried to run this line:
>
>>Because my playstation sometimes collect dust when game are being release every month.I'm not
>>saying the playstion doesnt get decent games but they get horrible games way more times than
the
>>N64 does. But i'm not saying my N64 collects dust also. It collects it from the lack of games.
>
>That proves nothing...just because games are getting released that YOU
>don't want to play...does't mean that they are the genre that someone
>else wants to play.
>
>
Ray
Rufus wrote:
>
> He asked me how I came up with that statment and the best judge of games is only myself so I told
> him( I feel like ZFP).
>
ZFP? Huh?
Darien Allen
tried to run this line:
>He asked me how I came up with that statment and the best judge of games is only myself so I told
>him( I feel like ZFP).
Oh, ok. <foot in mouth>
:)
Darien Allen
<zsm...@mindspring.com> tried to run this line:
Just like SNES games you to be "Super"....
B. Smith
Thanks for the data. Given your numbers below, the results are:
N64:
Percent = 100% * 53/102 = 52%
Standard Error = 100% * sqrt((53/102 * 50/102) / 102) = 5%
95% Confidence Interval = (42%, 61%)
PSX
Percent = 100% * 171/313 = 55%
Standard Error = 100% * sqrt((171/313 * 142/313) / 313) = 3%
95% Confidence Interval = (49%, 60%)
Elric is right. The difference between the percentages is not very large.
In fact the confidence intervals overlap, which suggests no significant
difference between the percentages of quality games for the two consoles.
However, I'm not sure that these percentages are of much practical use to
consumers. Back when I was deciding between the two consoles, it was the
greater number of quality games for the PSX that made me choose this
system. I am perfectly content with my PSX and there has never been a
shortage of quality games for me to play. I can only see the percentages
being important to those who pick their games by standing in front of the
display case with eyes shut and then randomly point at their next gaming
purchase. For those who have adopted this buying strategy, neither system
is the clear winner here. For myself the PSX had the edge due to the
greater number (171 vs. 53) of quality games.
But, to each his own. If you must side with one system, side with the one
that has the majority of games that you want to play. Peace.
P.S. Boss Hogg is still alive and kicking at the U of Iowa.
On Thu, 19 Nov 1998 Elric...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
>
> That is not a big difference. The only thing is the volume of psx games over
> N64 which give us a larger choice of games.
>
> Here are my figure ( 'cause I'm poor at math :-) -now dont bitch at me, I
> know that more games exist than this for both systems, but these were the one
> they had reviews for.
>
Jesse Dorland
>
>
>Rufus wrote:
>>
>> He asked me how I came up with that statment and the best judge of games is only myself so I told
>> him( I feel like ZFP).
>>
>
>ZFP? Huh?
The name of a person who posts in these groups.
-Jesse
====================================================
Jesse Dorland
jessedorland AT hotmail DOT com
====================================================
simon
====
>Well, MGS is the Playstations last hurrah.
i see that you said this purely as a response to the 'zelda is the last
hurrah' statement, both consoles still have a way to go
====
>To say Zelda is the last hope is a bit silly considering all the other
>titles in development. Turok 2 is going to be big and bloody great.
====
agreed, i am looking forward to turok 2
====
>Rogue Squadron
====
could be crap
====
Banjo 2
====
i hope its not more of the same, in fact i would rather just leave it at
banjo 1, the storyline is daft anyway and trying to extend the game would
only hurt it
====
all sports games
====
how can you EVERY sports game will be amazing?
====
GT World Tour
====
not even heard of it!
====
Micro Machines
====
been out on playstation for ages
====
V-Rally
====
been out on playstation for ages and there are better race games!
====
WCW Revenge
====
or a load of other wrestling games (wwf?)
====
South Park
====
looking forward to this one as well, i LOVE south park!
====
Perfect Dark
====
OVER a year away, i hate waiting this long for a game (not matter how good
it is) nintendo always let there games be previewed ages before they are
out, this pisses me off!
====
....there is a
>long list now of really top games.
====
no, you have a wish list of future (potentially) good games
face the truth, the playstation has more decent software than the n64, i
have an n64 as well, but i only bought it for nintendo exclusive
stuff.........with the price of them why not jut buy both?
--
From Simon Hutchinson
Email : ne...@s.mh.easynet.co.uk
ICQ : 11150055
simon
====
>>What about Mario and Banjo? Similar games....all two of them. Forget the
>>fact they are both fantastic. Mario and Diddy all two of them again. So
>>if Nintendo is guilty of producing the same games because it has got two
>>of them then, fucking hell, Sony must be the antichrist then.
>
>Mario, Banjo, Banjo 2, Conkers Quest, Glover, Buck Bumble...
====
the only alike thing in mario/banjo is the 3d aspect and the cute look, they
are structured differently and have different attacks........it is like
saying tekken is the same as virtua fighter..........