LSJ: Rules Questions
davey! hathorn
If I use an action modifier such as Lost in Crowds to give a vampire +1
stealth on, say, an 'equip' action, and then untap that vampire using
Freak Drive, and then perform a Bleed action, does the vampire still
have +1 stealth?
Similarly, if my opponent plays a reaction card for +1 intercept, such
as Enhanced Senses, attempts to block my equip action, and fails, does
the vampire with enhanced senses still have +1 intercept for the rest of
the turn?
-davey!
James Hamblin
>
> Can I use superior Bonding to give a non-bleed action +1 stealth?
No, since you can't give +1 bleed to a non-bleed action.
> If I use an action modifier such as Lost in Crowds to give a vampire +1
> stealth on, say, an 'equip' action, and then untap that vampire using
> Freak Drive, and then perform a Bleed action, does the vampire still
> have +1 stealth?
No. The first action ends before the second action starts, and all
action modifiers played on one action discontinue their effects when
that action ends.
> Similarly, if my opponent plays a reaction card for +1 intercept, such
> as Enhanced Senses, attempts to block my equip action, and fails, does
> the vampire with enhanced senses still have +1 intercept for the rest of
> the turn?
No, for the same reason as above. Bonuses gained from reaction cards
and action modifier cards only last for the current action.
James
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Jasper Phillips
James Hamblin <ham...@math.wisc.edu> wrote:
>davey! hathorn wrote:
>>
>> Can I use superior Bonding to give a non-bleed action +1 stealth?
>
>No, since you can't give +1 bleed to a non-bleed action.
D'oh! Really? I thought it simply increased the base bleed of the given
vampire, not the action itself...
And anyway, is there somewhere in the rules it actually says you can't
give +1 bleed to a non-bleed action?
Certainly changes the way we've been playing around here, although
strangely I've never made any decks with bonding.
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Lupus Australis
> Can I use superior Bonding to give a non-bleed action +1 stealth?
No.
> If I use an action modifier such as Lost in Crowds to give a vampire +1
> stealth on, say, an 'equip' action, and then untap that vampire using
> Freak Drive, and then perform a Bleed action, does the vampire still
> have +1 stealth?
No. Action modidifiers modify the current action, not the vampire. Even
if the acting vampire changes, via Mask of 1000 Faces, the action modifier
will remain in effect.
> Similarly, if my opponent plays a reaction card for +1 intercept, such
> as Enhanced Senses, attempts to block my equip action, and fails, does
> the vampire with enhanced senses still have +1 intercept for the rest of
> the turn?
No. Reaction cards modify the current action of another minion.
Lupus Australis
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James Hamblin
>
> In article <35DEDB40...@math.wisc.edu>,
> James Hamblin <ham...@math.wisc.edu> wrote:
> >>
> >> Can I use superior Bonding to give a non-bleed action +1 stealth?
> >
>
> D'oh! Really? I thought it simply increased the base bleed of the given
> vampire, not the action itself...
>
> And anyway, is there somewhere in the rules it actually says you can't
> give +1 bleed to a non-bleed action?
>
> Certainly changes the way we've been playing around here, although
> strangely I've never made any decks with bonding.
Well, I am 100% certain that this is the correct rule, but poking around
in LSJ's site, I couldn't find it. LSJ?
In any case, after confirmation from LSJ, I'll put this in the FAQ,
since this question seems to come up periodically.
Lupus Australis
> Jasper Phillips wrote:
> >
> > And anyway, is there somewhere in the rules it actually says you can't
> > give +1 bleed to a non-bleed action?
>
> Well, I am 100% certain that this is the correct rule, but poking around
> in LSJ's site, I couldn't find it. LSJ?
Find the Rules Outline (V:tES Complete Rules Reference (Version 2.12)).
At the end of Section III (How to Perform Actions):
"Only Action Modifiers appropriate to the Action may be played. eg., you
may not use Bonding on a non-Bleed Action. [RTR]"
Jasper Phillips
Lupus Australis <jbwh...@dorsai.org> wrote:
>On Sat, 22 Aug 1998, James Hamblin wrote:
>
>> Jasper Phillips wrote:
>> >
>> > And anyway, is there somewhere in the rules it actually says you can't
>> > give +1 bleed to a non-bleed action?
>>
>> Well, I am 100% certain that this is the correct rule, but poking around
>> in LSJ's site, I couldn't find it. LSJ?
>
>Find the Rules Outline (V:tES Complete Rules Reference (Version 2.12)).
>
>At the end of Section III (How to Perform Actions):
>
>"Only Action Modifiers appropriate to the Action may be played. eg., you
>may not use Bonding on a non-Bleed Action. [RTR]"
Well, if it's ruled upon specifically, that's rather hard to argue.
Still, we'd just always assumed that it _was_ appropiate if you
need more stealth.
LSJ
>
> Can I use superior Bonding to give a non-bleed action +1 stealth?
No. You cannot play bleed modifiers on non-bleed actions.
> If I use an action modifier such as Lost in Crowds to give a vampire +1
> stealth on, say, an 'equip' action, and then untap that vampire using
> Freak Drive, and then perform a Bleed action, does the vampire still
> have +1 stealth?
No. Action modifiers apply to the current action only.
> Similarly, if my opponent plays a reaction card for +1 intercept, such
> as Enhanced Senses, attempts to block my equip action, and fails, does
> the vampire with enhanced senses still have +1 intercept for the rest of
> the turn?
No. Reaction cards apply to the current action only.
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