Powerbase: Tshwane questions
Marc Gabriele
cost, can I tap Powerbase: Tshwane to cancel Lorrie's added pool cost?
Similarly, can I tap Powerbase: Tshwane to cancel the pool cost for
playing a free master on a vampire with a Secure Haven?
Marc G.
LSJ
> If Lorrie Dunsirn takes a carded action with no intrinsic pool
> cost, can I tap Powerbase: Tshwane to cancel Lorrie's added pool cost?
Yes. Lorrie's added pool cost is part of the cost of the action.
> Similarly, can I tap Powerbase: Tshwane to cancel the pool cost for
> playing a free master on a vampire with a Secure Haven?
No. That is not cost.
Cut
i don't remember the name, but there is in play the gehenna event that
increases by 1 the blood cost of any discipline card.
i'm playing lasombra and there is in play the path of night.
i suppose obtenebration cards still cost as noted on the cards.
am i right?
LSJ
> i don't remember the name, but there is in play the gehenna event that
> increases by 1 the blood cost of any discipline card.
> i'm playing lasombra and there is in play the path of night.
> i suppose obtenebration cards still cost as noted on the cards.
> am i right?
Increasing the cost by one and then paying one less has a net
effect of zero, yes.
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Sten During
> Cut wrote:
>
>> i don't remember the name, but there is in play the gehenna event that
>> increases by 1 the blood cost of any discipline card.
>> i'm playing lasombra and there is in play the path of night.
>> i suppose obtenebration cards still cost as noted on the cards.
>> am i right?
>
>
> Increasing the cost by one and then paying one less has a net
> effect of zero, yes.
>
And I can conceal out a Sub Machine Gun?
Sten During
LSJ
> And I can conceal out a Sub Machine Gun?
SMG costs 4 pool.
Sten During
> Sten During wrote:
>
>> And I can conceal out a Sub Machine Gun?
>
>
> SMG costs 4 pool.
>
And I'm too quick as ususal :) Black Cat, I meant :)
Sten During
LSJ
Black Cat's SMG would cost 3 pool, so still out of
Concealing range.
PB: Tshwane can't be brought in, since the concealed
card is not being played "as normal" -- that is, for
the same reason the Concealed weapon cannot be DI'ed.
You could DI the CW card itself (or tap Tshwane to
reduce the cost of CW).
Marc Gabriele
> Marc Gabriele wrote:
>> If Lorrie Dunsirn takes a carded action with no intrinsic pool
>> cost, can I tap Powerbase: Tshwane to cancel Lorrie's added pool cost?
>
> Yes. Lorrie's added pool cost is part of the cost of the action.
To follow up, must I tap the powerbase when the action is declared, or can
I wait until just before the cost for the action is to be paid?
Marc G.
LSJ
> To follow up, must I tap the powerbase when the action is declared, or
> can I wait until just before the cost for the action is to be paid?
Tap it when the card is played.
salem
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>Marc Gabriele wrote:
>> To follow up, must I tap the powerbase when the action is declared, or
>> can I wait until just before the cost for the action is to be paid?
>
>Tap it when the card is played.
Same with burning Soul of the Earth? so it could be 'wasted' if the
recruit ally or employ retainer action is blocked?
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ira...@gmail.com
> Marc Gabriele wrote:
> > To follow up, must I tap the powerbase when the action is declared, or
> > can I wait until just before the cost for the action is to be paid?
>
> Tap it when the card is played.
Do you tap the PB:T before or after the window for DI?
Thanks,
Ira
LSJ
salem wrote:
> On Tue, 29 Nov 2005 11:27:46 GMT, LSJ <vtesr...@TRAPwhite-wolf.com>
> scrawled:
>
> >Marc Gabriele wrote:
> >> To follow up, must I tap the powerbase when the action is declared, or
> >> can I wait until just before the cost for the action is to be paid?
> >
> >Tap it when the card is played.
>
> Same with burning Soul of the Earth?
No. SotE doesn't use the same "play" template that is used no PB:T
LSJ
Card text indicates it doesn't matter, but before is correct.
ira...@gmail.com
Oops. :) Sorry!
Then again, know the right way is still helpful, since it might affect
whether or not I want to DI.
Thanks for the help, as always!
Ira
John Flournoy
The timing does matter, just not for the original card - but if you
have to tap it before DI is played, it's not available to use on a
second pool-costing card later because DI won't untap the Powerbase as
part of cancelling the action.
(This by extention also matters to Gualtiero Ghilberti; since you can
apparently still DI a necromancy action after he declares his special,
the GG player can't wait to see if you DI it before using his 'once per
turn' ability up.)
Thanks for the clarification.
-John Flournoy
LSJ
> LSJ wrote:
>
>>ira...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>>LSJ wrote:
>>>
>>>>Marc Gabriele wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>To follow up, must I tap the powerbase when the action is declared, or
>>>>>can I wait until just before the cost for the action is to be paid?
>>>>
>>>>Tap it when the card is played.
>>>
>>>Do you tap the PB:T before or after the window for DI?
>>
>>Card text indicates it doesn't matter, but before is correct.
>
> The timing does matter, just not for the original card - but if you
> have to tap it before DI is played, it's not available to use on a
> second pool-costing card later because DI won't untap the Powerbase as
> part of cancelling the action.
Yes it will, by card text on PB:T.
That's what I meant by "card text indicates it doesn't matter".
John Flournoy
> >
> > The timing does matter, just not for the original card - but if you
> > have to tap it before DI is played, it's not available to use on a
> > second pool-costing card later because DI won't untap the Powerbase as
> > part of cancelling the action.
>
> Yes it will, by card text on PB:T.
> That's what I meant by "card text indicates it doesn't matter".
Huh. It's almost like this issue was considered in advance! :P
(For whatever dumb reason, I was thinking 'card text indicates' was
referring to the DI card text; it didn't even cross my mind that PB:T
covered it explicitly. Ooops.)
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