Q: Kiss of Lachesis + equipment cost reduction
Petri Wessman
Eccentric Billionaire to reduce the cost of equipment I retrieve from
my own ash heap via Kiss of Lachesis? Both say that they reduce the
cost of a card I play by one, so does Kiss of Lachesis count for that?
If yes to above, how does the reduction work? Is the original cost
reduced (and then halved by Lachesis) or is the halved cost reduced by
one?
//Petri
LSJ
> Two related questions: first off, can I use Powerbase Tswane or
> Eccentric Billionaire to reduce the cost of equipment I retrieve from
> my own ash heap via Kiss of Lachesis? Both say that they reduce the
> cost of a card I play by one, so does Kiss of Lachesis count for that?
Kiss counts that, yeah.
> If yes to above, how does the reduction work? Is the original cost
> reduced (and then halved by Lachesis) or is the halved cost reduced by
> one?
RTR 7/7/7:
All cost-affecting cards operate no matter how the card is played ("as normal"
or otherwise). All multiplication and division is handled first, followed by
addition and subtraction.
The Lasombra
>Two related questions: first off, can I use Powerbase Tswane or
>Eccentric Billionaire to reduce the cost of equipment I retrieve from
>my own ash heap via Kiss of Lachesis?
No.
>Both say that they reduce the
>cost of a card I play by one, so does Kiss of Lachesis count for that?
Kiss of Lachesis is the only card you are playing. Its blood cost can
be reduced, but not by either of those cards.
You aren't "playing" the equipment, you are moving it.
LSJ 10-25-06
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad/msg/6d4f0aef88e43532
http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/index.php?line=cardlist
Kiss of Lachesis [BL:C1, LoB:C]
Cardtype: Action
Cost: 1 blood
Discipline: Temporis/Serpentis
+1 stealth action.
[ser] (D) Burn a retainer or a non-unique equipment card.
[tem] (D) Burn a retainer, ally or non-unique equipment card.
[TEM] Move a non-unique equipment card from any Methuselah's ash heap
to this vampire. If the equipment card comes from your ash heap, pay
half the cost (round down), otherwise no cost is paid.
Artist: Dennis Calero
Powerbase: Tshwane [LoB:R]
Cardtype: Master
Master: unique location. Requires a ready Laibon.
Tap this location to reduce the cost of a card you play by 1 pool
(this location is not tapped if that card is canceled as it is
played). Any Laibon may steal this location for his or her controller
as a (D) action.
Artist: William O'Connor
Eccentric Billionaire [SoC:C]
Cardtype: Ally
Clan: Toreador antitribu
Cost: 3 pool
Mortal with 1 life. 0 strength, 2 bleed.
Billionaire may tap to reduce the cost of an equipment or location you
or any of your minions play by 1 pool. Only one Billionaire may be
used to reduce the cost of a given card.
Artist: Pat McEvoy
Petri Wessman
Ok. So just to be clear, if I use Kiss of Lachesis to fetch an Assault
Rifle from my own ash heap, and I use either Powerbase: Tshwane or
Eccentric Billionaire to reduce cost, the weapon costs me 1 pool?
(base cost of 5 is halved and rounded down by KoL, and the resulting
cost of 2 is reduced by one by PB:T or EB).
//Petri
LSJ
Right.
Kushiel
In that case, when do you tap Tshwane? When the Kiss is played, or
when it's successful and you're moving the Rifle to your vampire?
John Eno
LSJ
The latter
Kushiel
> Kushiel wrote:
> > In that case, when do you tap Tshwane? When the Kiss is played, or
> > when it's successful and you're moving the Rifle to your vampire?
>
> The latter
Okay, thanks.
John Eno