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RavATwoFaces

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Jun 23, 2004, 10:07:57 AM6/23/04
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I've some questions... did you confirm my answers?

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* Caseless Rounds & magazine + guns *
*************************************
CASE 1)
Caseless Rounds & magazine + .44 magnum

I've a .44 magnum and I have played on it magazine + caseless rounds.

1.A) If I don't want to use the caseless effect I don't have to pay?
TRUE?
1.B) I can't cumulate blur + caseless...(2 sources of additional
strikes) TRUE?
1.C) Can I cumulate [CEL]quickness with 'caseless' effect?
I.E strike for 1 hand dmg, 'quickness' additional .44 magnum strike,
<before resolution> pay 1 pool and use caseless, solve the strike,
caseless additional strike, solve this additional. TRUE?
1.D) Can I declare a .44's strike and wait the declaration of an
opponent strike before using the 'caseless' option?
1.E) How if the opposing acting vampire decide to change his strike
via 'Primal Instincts' from a S:CE to 'any other strike you want'? Can
I declare now the use of a caseless round (if I've declared to use my
gun)? TRUE?

CASE 2)
Caseless Rounds & magazine + Combat Shotgun
2.A) It's legal t play Caseless Rounds & magazine on a Combat Shotgun?
TRUE?
2.B) Can I take advantage from a 'caseless rounds'? FALSE (because of
the limitation of that weapon)?

CASE 3)
Caseless Rounds & magazine + Sawed-Off Shotgun
3.A) It's legal t play Caseless Rounds & magazine on a Sawed-Off
Shotgun? TRUE?
3.B) Can I take advantage from a 'caseless rounds' and have an
additional 'shotgun' strike? FALSE?

**********
* Events *
**********
<<Event is a new type of library card. Once each discard phase, a
Methuselah may use a discard phase action to put an event card in
play. Each event can only be played once in a game. It is neither a
master card nor a minion card and is controlled by the Methuselah who
played it.>>

I can't play a second copy of an event. But how if an event is
cancelled or removed from the game by a card.
Can I play it again?
4.A) If someone removes an event via Black Hand Ritual? Can that event
be played again? FALSE?
4.B) How if the event is cancelled by Ian Pieterzoon ADV ability? Can
that event be played again? TRUE?
4.C) How if the event is cancelled by Emergency Preparations ADV
ability? Can that event be played again? TRUE?
4.D) If a player who controls an event is ousted can I play that event
again? FALSE?

I put here the card text for clarity.

.44 Magnum
2R damage each strike, with an optional maneuver each combat.

Black Hand Ritual
Untap a younger Black Hand vampire or (D) burn any Gehenna card in
play. Any "Do not replace until" directive on that card is ended (and
the controller draws to replace it, if it hadn't been replaced yet).

Caseless Rounds
Ammo. Only usable before resolution of a gun's strike. For the
remainder of combat, once each round when the bearer strikes with this
gun, the bearer gets an optional additional strike, only usable to
strike with this gun. No more than one ammo card can be used on a gun
card each combat.

Combat Shotgun
3R damage each strike, only usable once each round.

Emergency Preparations
Master out-of-turn. Burn 1 pool to cancel a Gehenna card as it is
played. Alternatively, if there are at least two Gehenna cards in
play, you may play this card during your minion phase to untap a
vampire with a capacity above 7.

Jan Pieterzoon
Advanced, Independent: Jan may burn 3 blood to cancel a Gehenna card
as it is played.

Magazine
Only usable before range is determined. Put this card on a gun on this
minion and put an ammo card from your hand on this card. When using
this gun, you may use the effect of the ammo card as if it were played
from your hand. Pay cost as normal.

Primal Instincts
[aus] Strike: dodge. [AUS] Only usable by the acting vampire after the
opposing minion has chosen his or her strike. Cancel this acting
vampire's strike and choose a new one.

Sawed-Off Shotgun
3R damage each strike. This weapon is only usable once each combat.

Thanks in advance for your help!

Best deranges,
RavATwoFaces

LSJ

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Jun 23, 2004, 10:18:40 AM6/23/04
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"RavATwoFaces" <RavATw...@vampirethemasquerade.com> wrote in message news:1701e7a4.04062...@posting.google.com...

> I've a .44 magnum and I have played on it magazine + caseless rounds.
> 1.A) If I don't want to use the caseless effect I don't have to pay?

Right.
Card text on Magazine: "you may use"

> 1.B) I can't cumulate blur + caseless...(2 sources of additional
> strikes) TRUE?

Right.
Only one additional strike gaining effect per round.

> 1.C) Can I cumulate [CEL]quickness with 'caseless' effect?

Yes, by card text on superior Quickness.

> 1.D) Can I declare a .44's strike and wait the declaration of an
> opponent strike before using the 'caseless' option?

Yes.

> 1.E) How if the opposing acting vampire decide to change his strike
> via 'Primal Instincts' from a S:CE to 'any other strike you want'? Can
> I declare now the use of a caseless round (if I've declared to use my
> gun)? TRUE?

Yes.



> Caseless Rounds & magazine + Combat Shotgun
> 2.A) It's legal t play Caseless Rounds & magazine on a Combat Shotgun?

Yes.

> 2.B) Can I take advantage from a 'caseless rounds'? FALSE (because of
> the limitation of that weapon)?

Correct. Even with Blur, Caseless Rounds, whatever other method of
gaining additional strikes you have, the Combat Shotgun can only
be used once each round.



> Caseless Rounds & magazine + Sawed-Off Shotgun
> 3.A) It's legal t play Caseless Rounds & magazine on a Sawed-Off
> Shotgun? TRUE?

Yes.

> 3.B) Can I take advantage from a 'caseless rounds' and have an
> additional 'shotgun' strike? FALSE?

Correct: you cannot.

> I can't play a second copy of an event. But how if an event is
> cancelled or removed from the game by a card.
> Can I play it again?

No. Each event can only be played once each game.

> 4.A) If someone removes an event via Black Hand Ritual? Can that event
> be played again? FALSE?

Correct.

> 4.B) How if the event is cancelled by Ian Pieterzoon ADV ability? Can
> that event be played again? TRUE?

No, it can only be played once.

> 4.C) How if the event is cancelled by Emergency Preparations ADV
> ability? Can that event be played again? TRUE?

No. It can only be played once.

> 4.D) If a player who controls an event is ousted can I play that event
> again? FALSE?

Correct.

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Jozxyqk

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Jun 23, 2004, 12:28:33 PM6/23/04
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..and remember, if you put Caseless Rounds in a Magazine, you have to pay
1 pool *every time* you generate the additional strike.

Tetragrammaton

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Jun 23, 2004, 3:40:32 PM6/23/04
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LSJ wrote:
> "RavATwoFaces" <RavATw...@vampirethemasquerade.com> wrote in
> message news:1701e7a4.04062...@posting.google.com...
>> I've a .44 magnum and I have played on it magazine + caseless rounds.
>> 1.A) If I don't want to use the caseless effect I don't have to pay?
>
> Right.
> Card text on Magazine: "you may use"
>
Does the magazine makes me to pay the pool each time
i use the caseless magazined round ?

thanks

Emiliano,v:ekn Prince of Rome


LSJ

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Jun 23, 2004, 3:39:09 PM6/23/04
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"Tetragrammaton" <no...@usa.com> wrote in message news:2ju44vF...@uni-berlin.de...

> Does the magazine makes me to pay the pool each time
> i use the caseless magazined round ?

Yes. Cost is paid as normal.

hawk_the_demon

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Jun 24, 2004, 8:15:10 AM6/24/04
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Jozxyqk wrote:
> ..and remember, if you put Caseless Rounds in a Magazine, you have to pay
> 1 pool *every time* you generate the additional strike.

I believe it is every _combat_ you use it, not every time you generate
_the_ additional strike.

Colin McGuigan

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Jun 24, 2004, 10:28:10 AM6/24/04
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hawk_the_demon wrote:
> I believe it is every _combat_ you use it, not every time you generate
> _the_ additional strike.

Correct. Once you've "used" the Caseless Rounds from the Magazine, it
applies for the entire combat.

--Colin McGuigan

RavATwoFaces

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Jun 25, 2004, 5:00:14 AM6/25/04
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"LSJ" <vte...@white-wolf.com> wrote in message news:<cbc3dh$6m5$1...@hartwell.cse.sc.edu>...

> "RavATwoFaces" <RavATw...@vampirethemasquerade.com> wrote in message news:1701e7a4.04062...@posting.google.com...

Thanks for the answers... I've another question:

If I recruit a Shadow Court Satyr and I put a 'caseless rounds' card on him...
Then he got a gun.
I've to pay the caseless effect created by the Satyr or not?
The Satyr's text states he has to pay only blood cost.

Best regards,
Andrea RAVERA

LSJ

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Jun 25, 2004, 6:47:26 AM6/25/04
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RavATwoFaces wrote:
> "LSJ" <vte...@white-wolf.com> wrote in message news:<cbc3dh$6m5$1...@hartwell.cse.sc.edu>...
>
>>"RavATwoFaces" <RavATw...@vampirethemasquerade.com> wrote in message news:1701e7a4.04062...@posting.google.com...
>
>
> Thanks for the answers... I've another question:
>
> If I recruit a Shadow Court Satyr and I put a 'caseless rounds' card on him...
> Then he got a gun.
> I've to pay the caseless effect created by the Satyr or not?

Of course.

> The Satyr's text states he has to pay only blood cost.

No. It says he can play cards that have cost by paying life.

He can't use life to pay for pool costs, though. Those still
come from your pool.

RavATwoFaces

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Jun 30, 2004, 3:59:00 AM6/30/04
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Another question... (why newby players don't trust me?) to quit all
the quarrelings in my group.

Can I have 2 magazine and 2 ammo on a single weapon?
I think it's ok, but I've to use a single ammo effect per combat.

True?

(thanks for the patience)

RavATwoFaces

LSJ

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Jun 30, 2004, 6:31:57 AM6/30/04
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RavATwoFaces wrote:

> Another question... (why newby players don't trust me?) to quit all
> the quarrelings in my group.
>
> Can I have 2 magazine and 2 ammo on a single weapon?

> I think it's ok, but I [can only] use a single ammo effect per combat.
>
> True?

True.

Ankur Gupta

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Jun 30, 2004, 10:01:43 AM6/30/04
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On Wed, 30 Jun 2004, LSJ wrote:

> True.

Look guys! It must be a new verison of LSJ! Probably version 2.0.

Ah, it's great to see progress. . . .

Ankur Gupta
Prince of West Lafayette, IN

Colin McGuigan

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Jun 30, 2004, 11:44:14 AM6/30/04
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Ankur Gupta wrote:
> Look guys! It must be a new verison of LSJ! Probably version 2.0.
>
> Ah, it's great to see progress. . . .

I'm glad to see they made this one more human-sounding. =)

--Colin McGuigan

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