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Blooded Sand

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Oct 17, 2006, 11:36:27 PM10/17/06
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Cannot seem any reason why not, but before I am overcome by a fit of
the giggles, can someone please confirm for me:
Does this card stack?

Cos if it does, I have some truly horrible ideas brewing in my head
right now....

Multi master phase deck, 3 FR in play, fame, TitR, Dragonbound, With
Votes
Obviously this is going to be Bru\!Bru, for votability, or Nos\!Nos

Smack many minions, gain pool, prey lose pool. Call perpetual care.
Ouch....
Probably Bru as 2nd trad for keeping the buggers in Torpor is very
useful

XZealot

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Oct 17, 2006, 11:43:34 PM10/17/06
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Blooded Sand wrote:
> Cannot seem any reason why not, but before I am overcome by a fit of
> the giggles, can someone please confirm for me:
> Does this card stack?

Sure, good luck lining that up.

Comments Welcome,
Norman S. Brown, Jr
XZealot
Archon of the Swamp

Blooded Sand

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Oct 17, 2006, 11:47:22 PM10/17/06
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Thanks for the sarcasm, however, my question is still: Does this card
stack?

XZealot

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Oct 18, 2006, 1:09:13 AM10/18/06
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You're Welcome, there's plenty where that came from. :)

I believe they stack as there is no card text nor rulings to indicate
that they don't

Jeroen Rombouts

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Oct 18, 2006, 3:08:55 AM10/18/06
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"Blooded Sand" <sand...@gmail.com> schreef in bericht
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> Cannot seem any reason why not, but before I am overcome by a fit of
> the giggles, can someone please confirm for me:
> Does this card stack?

yup. And for NRA purposes the rush actions are different too, i think.

>
> Multi master phase deck, 3 FR in play, fame, TitR, Dragonbound, With
> Votes
> Obviously this is going to be Bru\!Bru, for votability, or Nos\!Nos
>
> Smack many minions, gain pool, prey lose pool. Call perpetual care.
> Ouch....
> Probably Bru as 2nd trad for keeping the buggers in Torpor is very
> useful

err. lot of moving parts. Probably better with the nos princes of group 1
with for. better intercept and they can play freak drive and attack again.

That's probably the best use for Frontal Assault: to add it in an intercept
combat deck. Or maybe an Edged Illusion deck, because the card doesn't
specify how your prey's vampires must go to torpor/get burned.


LSJ

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Oct 18, 2006, 8:14:10 AM10/18/06
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XZealot wrote:
> Blooded Sand wrote:
>> Cannot seem any reason why not, but before I am overcome by a fit of
>> the giggles, can someone please confirm for me:
>> Does this card stack?
>
> Sure,

Correct.

Gregory Stuart Pettigrew

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Oct 19, 2006, 10:22:10 AM10/19/06
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Frontal Assault [Third:U]
Cardtype: Master
Master.
Put this card in play. Each ready minion you control may enter combat
with any minion controlled by your prey as a (D) action. You gain 1
pool each time a ready minion controlled by your prey is burned or sent
to torpor. During your influence phase, burn this card and burn 1 pool
for each ready minion controlled by your prey.
Artist: David Day

Jeroen Rombouts wrote:
> That's probably the best use for Frontal Assault: to add it in an intercept
> combat deck. Or maybe an Edged Illusion deck, because the card doesn't
> specify how your prey's vampires must go to torpor/get burned.

How does an Intercept Combat deck put its prey's minions into torpor
during its own Minion phase? By giving up on the "Intercept" part?

--
- Gregory Stuart Pettigrew

Jeroen

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Oct 19, 2006, 10:41:23 AM10/19/06
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Gregory Stuart Pettigrew schreef:

by combat of course :-) By not diluting your deck with rushes (always
nice in an intercept combat deck, to clear you hand of combat cards)
but adding 4 (or so) FA in a deck. Not usable if you're playing a
rotschreck deck, but, for ex, an animalism intercept deck could use it.


And because, you're playing intercept, the vamps you put in torpor
never come out again, unless rescued cross table.

Rob Grau

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Oct 19, 2006, 1:30:40 PM10/19/06
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Jeroen wrote:
> Gregory Stuart Pettigrew schreef:

> > Jeroen Rombouts wrote:
> > > That's probably the best use for Frontal Assault: to add it in an intercept
> > > combat deck. Or maybe an Edged Illusion deck, because the card doesn't
> > > specify how your prey's vampires must go to torpor/get burned.
> >
> > How does an Intercept Combat deck put its prey's minions into torpor
> > during its own Minion phase? By giving up on the "Intercept" part?
>
> by combat of course :-) By not diluting your deck with rushes (always
> nice in an intercept combat deck, to clear you hand of combat cards)
> but adding 4 (or so) FA in a deck. Not usable if you're playing a
> rotschreck deck, but, for ex, an animalism intercept deck could use it.
>
> And because, you're playing intercept, the vamps you put in torpor
> never come out again, unless rescued cross table.

If I understood Gregory's post correctly, the issue was that your
intercept combat deck is already blocking your prey's actions and
sending the vampires to torpor, so why would you include Frontal
Assault?

If you're using intercept to get into combat, your deck isn't diluted
with rush actions to start with.

Rob Grau
rfg...@eos.ncsu.edu

Gregory Stuart Pettigrew

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Oct 19, 2006, 1:38:45 PM10/19/06
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Rob Grau wrote:
> > > How does an Intercept Combat deck put its prey's minions into torpor
> > > during its own Minion phase? By giving up on the "Intercept" part?
> >
>
> If I understood Gregory's post correctly, the issue was that your
> intercept combat deck is already blocking your prey's actions and
> sending the vampires to torpor, so why would you include Frontal
> Assault?
>
> If you're using intercept to get into combat, your deck isn't diluted
> with rush actions to start with.
>

I was mostly checking to see if he was misreading the card. It's
possible he (like some others) misinterpreted when Frontal Assault did
its damage. An Intercept Combat deck could make a great deal of use out
of FA: Having blocked all of its prey's actions and weakened all of its
prey's minions, it plays FA during its Master Phase, rushing and
torporizing many of its prey's minions. It then plays Dragonbound
during its Discard Phase as the coup de grace.

Jeroen Rombouts

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Oct 20, 2006, 5:18:25 AM10/20/06
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"Gregory Stuart Pettigrew" <gpett...@gmail.com> schreef in bericht
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> Rob Grau wrote:
>>
>
> I was mostly checking to see if he was misreading the card. It's
> possible he (like some others) misinterpreted when Frontal Assault did
> its damage. An Intercept Combat deck could make a great deal of use out
> of FA: Having blocked all of its prey's actions and weakened all of its
> prey's minions, it plays FA during its Master Phase, rushing and
> torporizing many of its prey's minions. It then plays Dragonbound
> during its Discard Phase as the coup de grace.
>
yes. That was what I meant :-)

But maybe, it can help those decks that don't have acces to eagle sight-like
effects.


Jeroen Rombouts

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Oct 20, 2006, 5:21:06 AM10/20/06
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"Rob Grau" <rfg...@eos.ncsu.edu> schreef in bericht
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On the rare occasion that I play intercept combat, I usually add a couple of
rush actions. Helps to clear your hand of combat cards, when people stop
acting. Or helps to draw the next eagle sight when they only do D-actions.


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