It seems like it's reasonable to make a "common sense" judgement on
most (if not all) of the current cards, but is there a hard and fast
rule? If I'm in combat and I play Drawing Out the Beast, that prevents
you from doing some stuff and gives you +1 hand damage. That affects
your vampire and you can play a reflex that cancels frenzy to stop it.
If I play Devil Channel: Hands to do agg damage, even though it affects
your vampire (adversely!), it doesn't *directly* affect him, and so I
believe it can only be cancelled by a Tranquility (or can be cancelled
by the methuselah that controls the Akunanse that's using DC:H).
But what about something like Devil Channel: Throat. This is a frenzy
card that cancels a blocking attempt and taps the blocking minion.
Using WoD logic, I believe this card is considered to be directly
affecting the acting minion, and only cancellable by him. Simply going
from card text, I think it's impossible to tell if it frenzies the
acting minion or frenzies the blocking minion. Could it be cancelled
by a reflex that cancels frenzy? More generally, is there an easy way
to tell when a card is "played on" an opposing/blocking minion, and
when it's "played on" the minion that's playing it?
> Apologies if this has been asked before, but I wasn't able to find
> anything on a google search. Several cards now have the ability to
> cancel a frenzy card played "on" a vampire. My question is, what
> constitutes "played on" a vampire?
>
> It seems like it's reasonable to make a "common sense" judgement on
> most (if not all) of the current cards, but is there a hard and fast
> rule? If I'm in combat and I play Drawing Out the Beast, that prevents
> you from doing some stuff and gives you +1 hand damage. That affects
> your vampire and you can play a reflex that cancels frenzy to stop it.
Correct.
> If I play Devil Channel: Hands to do agg damage, even though it affects
> your vampire (adversely!), it doesn't *directly* affect him, and so I
> believe it can only be cancelled by a Tranquility (or can be cancelled
> by the methuselah that controls the Akunanse that's using DC:H).
Correct. D-C: Hands does not affect the opposing minion.
> But what about something like Devil Channel: Throat. This is a frenzy
> card that cancels a blocking attempt and taps the blocking minion.
> Using WoD logic, I believe this card is considered to be directly
> affecting the acting minion, and only cancellable by him. Simply going
> from card text, I think it's impossible to tell if it frenzies the
> acting minion or frenzies the blocking minion. Could it be cancelled
?
For Devil-Channel: Throat, where the case is ambiguous as to
which minion it is being played on, the ambiguity is clarified
by explicit card text: "Frenzy (played on this acting vampire)."
> by a reflex that cancels frenzy? More generally, is there an easy way
> to tell when a card is "played on" an opposing/blocking minion, and
> when it's "played on" the minion that's playing it?
If the frenzy card targets/selects/chooses/affects the minion when
played, then it is being played on the minion. If explicit card text
specifies on which minion the card is played, use the explicit
card text.
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