Q: Timing of Blood to Water
Timlagor
as being between strike declaratino and strike resolution. I have seen
it played before strike declaration and been assured that this is also
legal (ie. the player can choose).
Can you play BtW before strikes are chosen (thus preventing your
opponent from playing a strike that he would have needed that blood to
pay for)?
Pepijn
Yes. It can be played anytime before strike resolution. So also
immediately after the round starts, so even before the Beofre rangge
is determined cards if you like.
LSJ
It can be played any time after range is determined and before
strikes resolve, and only if the range is close.
It cannot be played before range is determined (that is, it can
only be played if range is set to close).
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Pepijn
wrote:
>Pepijn wrote:
>> On Wed, 8 Oct 2003 16:52:23 +0100, Timlagor
>> <Timlagor...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Blood to Water says play "before strike resolution". I interpreted this
>>>as being between strike declaratino and strike resolution. I have seen
>>>it played before strike declaration and been assured that this is also
>>>legal (ie. the player can choose).
>>>
>>>Can you play BtW before strikes are chosen (thus preventing your
>>>opponent from playing a strike that he would have needed that blood to
>>>pay for)?
>>
>>
>> Yes. It can be played anytime before strike resolution. So also
>> immediately after the round starts, so even before the Beofre rangge
>> is determined cards if you like.
>>
>
>It can be played any time after range is determined and before
>strikes resolve, and only if the range is close.
>
>It cannot be played before range is determined (that is, it can
>only be played if range is set to close).
Ah yes.. forgot the part that it can only be played a short range...
*duh*
I stand corrected )
XZealot
"LSJ" <vte...@white-wolf.com> wrote in message
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> Pepijn wrote:
> > On Wed, 8 Oct 2003 16:52:23 +0100, Timlagor
> > <Timlagor...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Blood to Water says play "before strike resolution". I interpreted this
> >>as being between strike declaratino and strike resolution. I have seen
> >>it played before strike declaration and been assured that this is also
> >>legal (ie. the player can choose).
> >>
> >>Can you play BtW before strikes are chosen (thus preventing your
> >>opponent from playing a strike that he would have needed that blood to
> >>pay for)?
> >
> >
> > Yes. It can be played anytime before strike resolution. So also
> > immediately after the round starts, so even before the Beofre rangge
> > is determined cards if you like.
> >
>
> It can be played any time after range is determined and before
> strikes resolve, and only if the range is close.
>
> It cannot be played before range is determined (that is, it can
> only be played if range is set to close).
Just to clear this up before it happens. Can I play a Blood to Water after
strike declaration, even if it causes my opponent's strike to fizzle (i.e.
not being able to pay the one blood for Majesty)?
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XZealot
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Timlagor
> Just to clear this up before it happens. Can I play a Blood to Water after
> strike declaration, even if it causes my opponent's strike to fizzle (i.e.
> not being able to pay the one blood for Majesty)?
Yes
That was my question.
The Lasombra
<x_ze...@cox-internet.com> wrote:
>> It cannot be played before range is determined (that is, it can
>> only be played if range is set to close).
>Just to clear this up before it happens. Can I play a Blood to Water after
>strike declaration, even if it causes my opponent's strike to fizzle (i.e.
>not being able to pay the one blood for Majesty)?
No, because you pay for strikes when you announce them.
LSJ 05/07/2002
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3CD7C5C3.34F0228C%40white-wolf.com
Carpe noctem.
Lasombra
Timlagor
Durr. I'm going to have to start reading things three times :-/
You can play it but as Lasombra says that blood will already have gone.
OTOH if they have more than 5 blood (and you only have one BtW) you
might want to wait for them to play their strike so you can BtW them
down to 0 where tehy might not otherwise have played the expensive
strike... or something... anyone ever wanted to do this? -perhaps you
are planning to combine it with that other power-card: Wind Dance ;-D
John Flournoy
> > It can be played any time after range is determined and before
> > strikes resolve, and only if the range is close.
> >
> > It cannot be played before range is determined (that is, it can
> > only be played if range is set to close).
>
> Just to clear this up before it happens. Can I play a Blood to Water after
> strike declaration, even if it causes my opponent's strike to fizzle (i.e.
> not being able to pay the one blood for Majesty)?
You can play it after strike declaration. However, this won't cause a
foe's strike to fizzle - strike cards (like every card in the game
except for action cards) must be paid for as they are played, not when
they resolve. (Action cards get paid for only when the action is
successfully resolved, as specified by the rules). So if your opponent
has a blood and declares Majesty as his strike, he pays that
immediately, leaving him with zero blood should you choose to play
Blood to Water after strike declaration.
(Similarly, if you play a Pushing the Limit as your strike, and your
opponent plays Majesty, you still have already paid for the PtL even
though combat will end from Majesty before your strike resolves.)
-John Flournoy