Unleashed hells fury and Block Fail
Marandamir
minion is important, I was curious how the block fail mechanic
interacted with the card. It seems that many block fail cards cause
the block to fail outright and then prohibit additional block
attempts. Many use the text "That minion cannot attempt to block this
action again". So some questions arises in how does this text
interact with the timing of when UHF is a minion and a non-minion.
Timing example:
Minion A takes a D action
UHF attempts to block and becomes a minion.
Minion A plays a block fail and UHF fails to block, reverting back to
a card.
Can UHF attempt to block again as it is not a minion when it declares
its block attempt?
Lets say it actually can bypass this restriction and can attempt to
block again. When it turns back into a minion what happens then?
Does the "That minion cannot attempt to block this action again" text
kick in and immediately fail the new attempt? Or does the text only
prohibit the initial declaration of a block attempt and UHF is free to
block as it is turns into a minion after this occurs?
YY
> It seems that the timing of when Unleashed hells Fury is a card vs a
> minion is important, I was curious how the block fail mechanic
> interacted with the card. It seems that many block fail cards cause
> the block to fail outright and then prohibit additional block
> attempts. Many use the text "That minion cannot attempt to block this
> action again". So some questions arises in how does this text
> interact with the timing of when UHF is a minion and a non-minion.
>
> Timing example:
>
> Minion A takes a D action
> UHF attempts to block and becomes a minion.
> Minion A plays a block fail and UHF fails to block, reverting back to
> a card.
>
> Can UHF attempt to block again as it is not a minion when it declares
> its block attempt?
No. It becomes the same vampire that is not allowed to block the
current action.
Ref: http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad/msg/a1f55342dd504ce9
>
> Lets say it actually can bypass this restriction and can attempt to
> block again. When it turns back into a minion what happens then?
> Does the "That minion cannot attempt to block this action again" text
> kick in and immediately fail the new attempt? Or does the text only
> prohibit the initial declaration of a block attempt and UHF is free to
> block as it is turns into a minion after this occurs?
Moot.
-YY
LSJ
> It seems that the timing of when Unleashed hells Fury is a card vs a
> minion is important, I was curious how the block fail mechanic
> interacted with the card. It seems that many block fail cards cause
> the block to fail outright and then prohibit additional block
> attempts. Many use the text "That minion cannot attempt to block this
> action again". So some questions arises in how does this text
> interact with the timing of when UHF is a minion and a non-minion.
The card is played. The minion that is UHF is the target. The UHF card
may or may not be able to block again, but it is moot, since if it can
block, then it finds itself to be a minion who is prohibited from
blocking and so the attempt immediately ends itself.
> Timing example:
>
> Minion A takes a D action
> UHF attempts to block and becomes a minion.
> Minion A plays a block fail and UHF fails to block, reverting back to
> a card.
>
> Can UHF attempt to block again as it is not a minion when it declares
> its block attempt?
Perhaps. If it does so, the block immediately ends as soon as it
begins (i.e., as soon as the UHF is a minion again).
> Lets say it actually can bypass this restriction and can attempt to
> block again. When it turns back into a minion what happens then?
> Does the "That minion cannot attempt to block this action again" text
> kick in and immediately fail the new attempt?
Yes.