(LSJ) Questions about a directed action
floppyzedolfin
Here's a question about directed actions.
Suppose I control a Warsaw Station an untapped Rabbat in torpor. My
prey declares an action to diablerize my Rabbat in torpor.
I decide to burn the Warsaw Station to move Rabbat back from torpor to
my ready region before declaring a block attempt.
Is the action still a diablerie action?
Is the action a directed action against ready Rabbat?
Is the action still a directed action against me?
Can ready Rabbat attempt to block it? (the answer to this one should
be the same as the answer to the second one)
Thanks
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Rabbat, The Sewer Goddess
Cardtype: Vampire
Clan: Nosferatu
Group: 4
Capacity: 7
Discipline: pot ANI FOR OBF
Independent. Red List: Rabbat may send a vampire to torpor or burn an
ally as a strike. If she hunts, you may move 1 of the blood she gains
to your pool. She cannot take (D) actions or block actions that aren't
directed at her or at a card on her.
Warsaw Station
Cardtype: Master
Clan: Nosferatu
Cost: 2 pool
Master: unique location.
You may tap this card when a Nosferatu announces an undirected action.
If that action is successful, the acting Nosferatu untaps. You may
burn this card (even if it is tapped) to move a Nosferatu in torpor to
the ready region.
floppyzedolfin
> Is the action still a diablerie action?
> Is the action a directed action against ready Rabbat?
> Is the action still a directed action against me?
> Can ready Rabbat attempt to block it? (the answer to this one should
> be the same as the answer to the second one)
My guesses are:
Yes. No. No. No.
I'm adding this one:
Since my prey is performing the action and I am the one who can
declare a block attempt, if I pass, will any other player receive the
opportunity to declare a block attempt ?
Darby Keeney
At the significant risk of being wrong yet again, my thought processes
on this are....
> > Is the action still a diablerie action?
Yes, the action was properly announced and is attempted diablerie.
> > Is the action a directed action against ready Rabbat?
Yes, until it reaches resolution at which point it fizzles due to
having no valid target on which to resolve. But until that point, the
action is valid. Search Harass + untap and look at the 2nd tradition
example for precedents.
> > Is the action still a directed action against me?
Yes, until it fails to resolve - which includes all of the block
declaration window.
> > Can ready Rabbat attempt to block it? (the answer to this one should
> > be the same as the answer to the second one)
Yes, again, see the Harass + 2nd Tradition example, in which the
responding Prince is forced to block (by card text) in response to
untapping in an attempt to avoid the Harass target availability.
> I'm adding this one:
> Since my prey is performing the action and I am the one who can
> declare a block attempt, if I pass, will any other player receive the
> opportunity to declare a block attempt ?
Yes, but only in specific cases which allow those players to attempt
to block D actions after the target player has passed (Eagle's Sight,
Falcon's Eye and Anneke).
YY
> On 9 oct, 17:04, floppyzedolfin <floppyzedol...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Is the action still a diablerie action?
> > Is the action a directed action against ready Rabbat?
> > Is the action still a directed action against me?
> > Can ready Rabbat attempt to block it? (the answer to this one should
> > be the same as the answer to the second one)
>
> My guesses are:
> Yes. No. No. No.
My guesses are:
Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes.
I think, also, that the action will "fizzle" upon resolution since it
no longer has a legal target.
Reference: http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad/msg/433e336369c14d25
-YY
floppyzedolfin
Thanks for these, they're probably correct. For some reason, I was
trying to compare with the case of a bleed against a player who is
ousted before resolution, but the big difference is that, in that
case, the target player was precisely ousted, and not in the game any
more to try to declare stuff.
LSJ
Correct.