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Psychomania question [LSJ]

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Nicx

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Aug 28, 2003, 7:11:00 AM8/28/03
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Hi,

Here the situation: Vamp A have 1 blood on him. Vamp A play a Forced
Awekening and block Vamp B. Vamp B play Psychomania superior...

Does Vamp A burn 1 blood for the fail block and go to torpor from the
1 damage of Psychomania? Thanks!

Nicolas Savard
Domain Saguenay

LSJ

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Aug 28, 2003, 7:51:20 AM8/28/03
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Nicx wrote:
> Here the situation: Vamp A have 1 blood on him. Vamp A play a Forced
> Awekening and block Vamp B. Vamp B play Psychomania superior...
>
> Does Vamp A burn 1 blood for the fail block and go to torpor from the
> 1 damage of Psychomania? Thanks!

Psychomachia can only be played if the block is successful, so FA's
non-blocking penalty won't be applied.

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Timlagor

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Aug 28, 2003, 9:26:30 AM8/28/03
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LSJ expounded:

> Nicx wrote:
> > Here the situation: Vamp A have 1 blood on him. Vamp A play a Forced
> > Awekening and block Vamp B. Vamp B play Psychomania superior...
> >
> > Does Vamp A burn 1 blood for the fail block and go to torpor from the
> > 1 damage of Psychomania? Thanks!
>
> Psychomachia can only be played if the block is successful, so FA's
> non-blocking penalty won't be applied.

ELDB card text is wrong.

Kevin M.

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Aug 28, 2003, 7:35:59 PM8/28/03
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No, it isn't. Maybe you don't have the latest version?

Kevin M., Prince of Henderson, NV (USA)
"Know your enemy, and know yourself; in one-thousand battles
you shall never be in peril." -- Sun Tzu, *The Art of War*
"Contentment... Complacency... Catastrophe!" -- Joseph Chevalier


Marc Gabriele

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Aug 28, 2003, 9:28:42 PM8/28/03
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On Thu, 28 Aug 2003, LSJ wrote:

> Psychomachia can only be played if the block is successful, so FA's
> non-blocking penalty won't be applied.

Is there any wiggle room in the timing between when the block is
initially declared successful and when Psychomachia is played to order any
other effects that may occur due to a successful block? For example, must
the blocking minion tap? Must Millicent Smith activate? Or is it up to the
acting player's discretion?

Marc G.

Timlagor

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Aug 29, 2003, 7:49:59 AM8/29/03
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Kevin M. expounded:

> Timlagor <Timlagor...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > LSJ expounded:
> >> Nicx wrote:
> >> > Here the situation: Vamp A have 1 blood on him. Vamp A play a
> >> > Forced Awekening and block Vamp B. Vamp B play Psychomania
> >> > superior...
> >> >
> >> > Does Vamp A burn 1 blood for the fail block and go to torpor from
> >> > the 1 damage of Psychomania? Thanks!
> >>
> >> Psychomachia can only be played if the block is successful, so FA's
> >> non-blocking penalty won't be applied.
> >
> > ELDB card text is wrong.
>
> No, it isn't. Maybe you don't have the latest version?

I downloaded the latest just the other day from the yahoo group. It
tells me that it is "only usable when an ally or younger vampire is
attempting to block". It should say something about a *successful*
block.

The Lasombra

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Aug 29, 2003, 8:19:16 AM8/29/03
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On Fri, 29 Aug 2003 12:49:59 +0100, Timlagor
<Timlagor...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>> >> > Here the situation: Vamp A have 1 blood on him. Vamp A play a
>> >> > Forced Awekening and block Vamp B. Vamp B play Psychomania
>> >> > superior...

>> >> > Does Vamp A burn 1 blood for the fail block and go to torpor from
>> >> > the 1 damage of Psychomania? Thanks!

>> >> Psychomachia can only be played if the block is successful, so FA's
>> >> non-blocking penalty won't be applied.

>> > ELDB card text is wrong.

>> No, it isn't. Maybe you don't have the latest version?

>I downloaded the latest just the other day from the yahoo group. It
>tells me that it is "only usable when an ally or younger vampire is
>attempting to block". It should say something about a *successful*
>block.

There is no file version there labeled "just the other day".

I recommend the version on the group labeled 8/28.


Carpe noctem.

Lasombra

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Timlagor

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Aug 29, 2003, 8:21:42 AM8/29/03
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The Lasombra expounded:
> >I downloaded the latest just the other day from the yahoo group. It
> >tells me that it is "only usable when an ally or younger vampire is
> >attempting to block". It should say something about a *successful*
> >block.
>
> There is no file version there labeled "just the other day".
>
> I recommend the version on the group labeled 8/28.

LOL
I'll try again :-)

LSJ

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Sep 2, 2003, 8:53:34 AM9/2/03
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Psychomachia is played before the blocking minion is tapped for the successful
block.

Millicent would activate before Psychomachia (or Change of Target or Obedience
or whatever) could be played.

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