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Codex of the Damned, anyone use this for anything?

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Pullen

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Jun 22, 2010, 1:34:59 PM6/22/10
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Codex of the Damned
Type: Equipment
Unique equipment.
While the bearer has Thaumaturgy [tha], he or she is considered to
have superior Thaumaturgy. Each time the bearer with Thaumaturgy
commits diablerie, each other ready vampire you control gains 1 blood,
and each one younger than the victim may receive a master: Discipline
card from your ash heap, hand, or library (shuffle afterward).

Seems that a Trophy: Progeny deck could abuse this with Tribute to the
Master to gain pool, anyone got successes or failures that they could
share?

Peter D Bakija

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Jun 22, 2010, 1:42:31 PM6/22/10
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On Jun 22, 1:34 pm, Pullen <mattp3...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Codex of the Damned
> Type: Equipment
> Unique equipment.
> While the bearer has Thaumaturgy [tha], he or she is considered to
> have superior Thaumaturgy. Each time the bearer with Thaumaturgy
> commits diablerie, each other ready vampire you control gains 1 blood,
> and each one younger than the victim may receive a master: Discipline
> card from your ash heap, hand, or library (shuffle afterward).

You could probably make a pretty solid pool gain engine out of that.
Titled Tremere make 3rd Tradition kids. Each turn, one of the 3rd kids
plays Rutor's Hand to end up in torpor. One of the big ones (with the
book and also a Rutor's Hand so he can take multiple actions a turn)
eats him. You win the blood hunt vote due to your cleverly set up vote
lock (Ha!). All the little 3rds gain a blood and maybe a skill card.
Tribute. Lather, rinse, repeat.

Might work?

-Peter

Jeff Kuta

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Jun 22, 2010, 2:00:40 PM6/22/10
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Muaziz, Cardano, Ulugh Beg. Hut, hut, hike!

Ruben Feldman

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Jun 22, 2010, 2:23:14 PM6/22/10
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You only get trophies if you burn a red list as a D action or in
combat. Diablerizing your own vamp is neither...

Peter D Bakija

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Jun 22, 2010, 2:25:25 PM6/22/10
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On Jun 22, 2:23 pm, Ruben Feldman <frub...@gmail.com> wrote:
> You only get trophies if you burn a red list as a D action or in
> combat. Diablerizing your own vamp is neither...

Trophies? I don't care about stinking trophies. I just like the
"diablerize your own guys to get blood on everyone 'cause you are
holding the Codex of the Damned" plan.

Trophies are for lunatics. Well, and Norm.

-Peter

Peter D Bakija

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Jun 22, 2010, 2:26:08 PM6/22/10
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On Jun 22, 2:00 pm, Jeff Kuta <jeff.k...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Muaziz, Cardano, Ulugh Beg. Hut, hut, hike!

Sweet mother of Awesome! I love this plan! How can it *not* work!

-Peter

Wedge

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Jun 22, 2010, 2:41:15 PM6/22/10
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Funny, just last week I was talking with Denis about building a deck
with the Codex. I will have to overcome the moving parts, but it could
be fun (for me).

premise

Tyler the depraved Imperator
Lasombra Baltimore Purge


Matt
moving parts, moving parts, moving parts

Jozxyqk

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Jun 22, 2010, 2:42:14 PM6/22/10
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Pullen <matt...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Codex of the Damned
> Type: Equipment
> Unique equipment.
> While the bearer has Thaumaturgy [tha], he or she is considered to
> have superior Thaumaturgy. Each time the bearer with Thaumaturgy
> commits diablerie, each other ready vampire you control gains 1 blood,
> and each one younger than the victim may receive a master: Discipline
> card from your ash heap, hand, or library (shuffle afterward).

Tyler + Archon + thaumaturgy skillcard + Codex.

Mictlantecuhtli + Codex to give each of your vampires 2 blood and a skillcard whenever he diablerizes.

Meej

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Jun 22, 2010, 3:21:49 PM6/22/10
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On Jun 22, 2:42 pm, Jozxyqk <jfeue...@eecs.tufts.edu> wrote:

> Mictlantecuhtli + Codex to give each of your vampires 2 blood and a skillcard whenever he diablerizes.

+ skill card (since you've got 'em) and Fueled By Heart's Blood for no-
risk diablerie.
+ Talbot's Chainsaw, since he's immune to weapon damage.
+ tons of fun.

Wow, I may need to build that. That sounds like a blast.

Pullen

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Jun 22, 2010, 3:47:14 PM6/22/10
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Threw this together

Deck Name: Violence Makes Mic Horny

6x Mictlantecuhtli ANI FOR POT THA pre pro 10 Gangrel:5
1x Beatrice "Oracle171" Tr inn ven 3 Imbued:4
1x Calvin Cleaver for pro 3 Gangrel:4
1x Neel Ramanathan ani for 3 Ravnos:4
1x T.J. cel for 3 Gangrel:4
1x Jayne Jonestown PRE 2 Brujah antitribu:4
1x Afifa, The Herald dom 1 Caitiff:4
1x Andy for 1 Caitiff:4
1x Johan Wrede tha 1 Caitiff:4

Library [90 cards]

Master [22]
4x Dominate
3x Fortschritt Library
1x Giant's Blood
2x Information Highway
1x Pentex(TM) Subversion
6x Tribute to the Master
2x Villein
3x Wider View

Action [19]
3x Abactor
7x Embrace, The
6x Magic of the Smith
3x Rutor's Hand

Action Modifier [14]
9x Freak Drive
4x Mirror Walk

Equipment [6]
1x Codex of the Damned
1x Codex of the Edenic Groundskeepers
1x Eye of Hazimel
1x Joumlon's Axe
1x Rowan Ring
1x Talbot's Chainsaw

Event [7]
1x Absimiliard's Army
1x Anthelios, The Red Star
1x Blood Trade
1x Dragonbound
3x Fueled by Heart's Blood

Retainer [3]
3x Dog Pack

Combat [20]
7x Amaranth
7x Drawing Out the Beast
4x Rolling with the Punches
2x Skin of Steel

Juggernaut1981

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Jun 22, 2010, 5:53:44 PM6/22/10
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I'm seeing two options...

Hamster Ariadne (first she makes many babies, then consumes her own
young)

Bamba-riffic (Jibade uses his "make vamps cheap" text to churn out
Bamba's that you then throw under the Codex of the Damned Bus as it
rolls on past... Who cares if Bamba X burns, use Ashur Tablets to
recycle them all into your library again and continue the Bamba-riffic
Machine... Swarm Bleed for the kill...)

Pullen

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Jun 23, 2010, 12:02:18 AM6/23/10
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They don't have Thuam so they would need skill cards, but yeah.

Kevin M.

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Jun 23, 2010, 1:47:57 AM6/23/10
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Jeff Kuta wrote:
> Peter D Bakija wrote:

>> Pullen wrote:
>>> Codex of the Damned
>>> Type: Equipment
>>> Unique equipment.
>>> While the bearer has Thaumaturgy [tha], he or she is considered to
>>> have superior Thaumaturgy. Each time the bearer with Thaumaturgy
>>> commits diablerie, each other ready vampire you control gains 1
>>> blood, and each one younger than the victim may receive a master:
>>> Discipline card from your ash heap, hand, or library (shuffle
>>> afterward).
>>
>> You could probably make a pretty solid pool gain engine out of that.
>> Titled Tremere make 3rd Tradition kids. Each turn, one of the 3rd
>> kids plays Rutor's Hand to end up in torpor. One of the big ones
>> (with the book and also a Rutor's Hand so he can take multiple
>> actions a turn) eats him. You win the blood hunt vote due to your
>> cleverly set up vote lock (Ha!). All the little 3rds gain a blood
>> and maybe a skill card. Tribute. Lather, rinse, repeat.
>>
>> Might work?
>
> Muaziz, Cardano, Ulugh Beg. Hut, hut, hike!

Where O Where is Xian when he is needed? ;)


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Dasein

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Jun 23, 2010, 3:38:51 AM6/23/10
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If this ever worked, it would be the funnest deck ever.
Pretty good. However, NEEDS MOAR MONSTAR.
Once Mict has a Chainsaw and Eye and Monster, he can destroy two
minions a turn without playing a card.
Sadly, once he has a Chainsaw he can no longer play Abactor ("bearer
cannot hunt").

Janne Hägglund

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Jun 23, 2010, 11:57:05 AM6/23/10
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Pullen <matt...@yahoo.com> writes:

> On Jun 22, 3:21 pm, Meej <djchag...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Jun 22, 2:42 pm, Jozxyqk <jfeue...@eecs.tufts.edu> wrote:
> >
> > > Mictlantecuhtli + Codex to give each of your vampires 2 blood and a skillcard whenever he diablerizes.
> >
> > + skill card (since you've got 'em) and Fueled By Heart's Blood for no-
> > risk diablerie.
> > + Talbot's Chainsaw, since he's immune to weapon damage.
> > + tons of fun.
> >
> > Wow, I may need to build that.  That sounds like a blast.
>
> Threw this together
>
> Deck Name: Violence Makes Mic Horny
>
> 6x Mictlantecuhtli ANI FOR POT THA pre pro 10 Gangrel:5
> 1x Beatrice "Oracle171" Tr inn ven 3 Imbued:4
> 1x Calvin Cleaver for pro 3 Gangrel:4
> 1x Neel Ramanathan ani for 3 Ravnos:4
> 1x T.J. cel for 3 Gangrel:4
> 1x Jayne Jonestown PRE 2 Brujah antitribu:4
> 1x Afifa, The Herald dom 1 Caitiff:4
> 1x Andy for 1 Caitiff:4
> 1x Johan Wrede tha 1 Caitiff:4


> 3x Abactor

> 3x Fueled by Heart's Blood

Did you realize that Fueled by Heart's Blood does not protect from blood hunts
called by playing Abactor?


Abactor [Promo-20090401]
Cardtype: Action
+1 stealth hunt action.
Gain 5 blood. After successful resolution, a referendum is called to call a
blood hunt on this vampire (independent of the action, just as if he or she
had committed diablerie).


Fueled by Heart's Blood [Gehenna:R]
Cardtype: Event
Gehenna. Do not replace until a vampire commits diablerie.
Put 10 counters on this card. Remove one counter each time another Gehenna
card is put in play. A blood hunt cannot be called on a vampire whose
capacity is greater than the number of counters on this card when he or she
diablerizes a younger vampire.

HG

Seirhune

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Jun 23, 2010, 4:33:15 PM6/23/10
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Way back I had built a deck that used Codex of the Damned with
Muaziz. She was backed up by (dom) 2 caps. The deck had equipment
needed for Muaziz to go murdering....embraces, create gargoyles and a
pile of bleed and dominate skill cards.

Muaziz rushes, eats a guy....the hordes of weenies get superior
dominate and then the table freaks out at all the DOM.

It worked not too badly, apart from being Public Enemy #1 when it
worked.

wumpus

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Jun 23, 2010, 5:41:45 PM6/23/10
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Howdy,

On Jun 23, 8:57 am, h...@iki.fi (Janne Hägglund) wrote:

> Did you realize that Fueled by Heart's Blood does not protect from blood hunts
> called by playing Abactor?

I don't think that's true. I'm certainly not seeing it in the card
text.

> Abactor [Promo-20090401]
> Cardtype:       Action
> +1 stealth hunt action.
> Gain 5 blood. After successful resolution, a referendum is called to call a
> blood hunt on this vampire (independent of the action, just as if he or she
> had committed diablerie).
>
> Fueled by Heart's Blood [Gehenna:R]
> Cardtype:       Event
> Gehenna. Do not replace until a vampire commits diablerie.
> Put 10 counters on this card. Remove one counter each time another Gehenna
> card is put in play. A blood hunt cannot be called on a vampire whose
> capacity is greater than the number of counters on this card when he or she
> diablerizes a younger vampire.

Abactor requires that a referendum be conducted to 'call a blood hunt
on this vampire'. So the referendum must be conducted. But even if
it is successful, Fueled will protect the qualifying vampire from
having the blood hunt be called, right? If not, why not?

Oh, wait. I guess there's no 'younger vampire' with Abactor...
Scratch what I said above. Fueled doesn't protect you.

Hope that helps (someone other than me as well),
Alex

Blooded Sand

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Jun 24, 2010, 7:42:29 AM6/24/10
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On Jun 23, 11:41 pm, wumpus <wump...@comcast.net> wrote:

> I don't think that's true.  I'm certainly not seeing it in the card
> text.

pay close attention to the card text between asterisks....

> > Fueled by Heart's Blood [Gehenna:R]
> > Cardtype:       Event
> > Gehenna. Do not replace until a vampire commits diablerie.
> > Put 10 counters on this card. Remove one counter each time another Gehenna
> > card is put in play. A blood hunt cannot be called on a vampire whose

> > capacity is greater than the number of counters on this card **************when he or she
> > diablerizes a younger vampire************

No, there is no diablerie, that is why fueled does not work,. it
directly requires diablerie. abactor has no diablerie. see truncated
quoted text of fueled for exact phrase

Robert Scythe

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Jun 24, 2010, 5:46:03 PM6/24/10
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Hey, man, he corrected himself or did you not pay close attention to
the text in the last sentence of his reply:

************"Oh, wait. I guess there's no 'younger vampire' with
Abactor...
Scratch what I said above. Fueled doesn't protect you."************

Blooded Sand

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Jun 26, 2010, 8:30:24 AM6/26/10
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I did, he stated that there is no younger vampire. the problem is that
there is no diablerie, not a younger vampire. But yeah, the younger
vampire is a secondary problem.

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