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Nico

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Jan 21, 2005, 4:54:02 PM1/21/05
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Redlist
Action
Requires a ready titled non-redlist vampire.
D: Choose a ready ally or younger vampire. The choosen minion becomes
Red List. That minion may not attempt to block this action.

So, if I understand correctly, a titled sabbat vampire can play a Redlist ???
That doesn't seem realistic afaik what is the Red List (enemies of the Camarilla)

Nico
Prince of Oye Plage

John Flournoy

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Jan 21, 2005, 5:11:29 PM1/21/05
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Nico wrote:
> Redlist
> Action
> Requires a ready titled non-redlist vampire.
> D: Choose a ready ally or younger vampire. The choosen minion becomes
> Red List. That minion may not attempt to block this action.
>
> So, if I understand correctly, a titled sabbat vampire can play a
Redlist ???

Correct.

> That doesn't seem realistic afaik what is the Red List (enemies of
the Camarilla)

No more or less so than letting Camarilla vampires vote on a Crusade or
letting all sects and clans vote on who should be the Ventrue Justicar.
It's a game balance issue.

> Nico
> Prince of Oye Plage

-John Flournoy

LSJ

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Jan 21, 2005, 6:59:22 PM1/21/05
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John Flournoy wrote:

> Nico wrote:
>>That doesn't seem realistic afaik what is the Red List (enemies of
>> the Camarilla)
>
> No more or less so than letting Camarilla vampires vote on a Crusade or
> letting all sects and clans vote on who should be the Ventrue Justicar.
> It's a game balance issue.

It's a design consideration, yes.

In VTES, the Red List is not a Camarilla tool.

It is a mark that designates that someone in a position of power
wants someone else eliminated. That's all. It has a great deal
over overlap with the pseudo-VTES-canon material (i.e., the
RPG source books :-), in that the same vampires marked for
destruction in one are marked for destruction in the other
and vice versa et cetera ad naseum. :-)

--
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Links to V:TES news, rules, cards, utilities, and tournament calendar:
http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/

Peter D Bakija

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Jan 22, 2005, 2:13:48 PM1/22/05
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Nico wrote:

> So, if I understand correctly, a titled sabbat vampire can play a Redlist ???
> That doesn't seem realistic afaik what is the Red List (enemies of the
> Camarilla)

VTES as a card game. V:TM is a role playing game. They share source
material, but often have differences.

Sometimes, the RPG "history" or whatever has to take a back seat so that the
game works better. Like in this particular case.


Peter D Bakija
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"How does this end?"
"In fire."
Emperor Turhan and Kosh

salem

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Jan 22, 2005, 10:34:40 PM1/22/05
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On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 14:13:48 -0500, Peter D Bakija
<pd...@lightlink.com> scrawled:

>Nico wrote:
>
>> So, if I understand correctly, a titled sabbat vampire can play a Redlist ???
>> That doesn't seem realistic afaik what is the Red List (enemies of the
>> Camarilla)
>
>VTES as a card game. V:TM is a role playing game. They share source
>material, but often have differences.
>
>Sometimes, the RPG "history" or whatever has to take a back seat so that the
>game works better. Like in this particular case.

and since the RPG is DEAD, we can make our own story!
Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay!

we, being the collective vtes community, or more specifically, lsj. :P

Hmmm.....i'd like to see mini comics come with starter decks. you
know, like you used to get with the original Masters of the Universe
(He-Man) action figures. they could be used to fill backstory, or just
be a neat little thing to spend 5 mins reading. if you had a different
one for each starter, or maybe a large number of them, and a random
one in each starter, then it might help increase sales of starters.
that added value Fred wanted, just not in a straight cards sort of
way.
that way we could still keep WoD "canon" ticking over, or whatever, or
at least just be interesting.

yeah, mini comics! woooo! just little B&W booklets like the rulebook.
perhaps excerpts from already published WW comics (although maybe
not....)

or maybe just short stories. don't need art then. you could even just
use fan submissions.

i want story!

and, perhaps some more coffee or sleep. i think i need at least one of
those.

salem
domain:canberra http://www.geocities.com/salem_christ.geo/vtes.htm
(replace "hotmail" with "yahoo" to email)

James Coupe

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Jan 23, 2005, 7:14:55 AM1/23/05
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In message <6g66v0lj6d34tl9ub...@4ax.com>, salem

<salem_ch...@hotmail.com> writes:
>and since the RPG is DEAD, we can make our own story!
>Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay!

If the story doesn't involve a pony with a robot outfit that shoots
LASERS, I want no part of it.

--
James 'Dave' Coupe
PGP Key: 0x5D623D5D Who's ever heard of that, though!
EBD690ECD7A1FB457CA2 Designing a deck that just calls votes.
13D7E668C3695D623D5D That's crazy talk, there.

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