Whats the going price on AFM now days?

[James Lewis]

I have a Nice AFM along with a Mirco PF. I don't play it much because I
have had it quite a while but I have been reluctant to let it go because
if the high price they bring but I really think I want the Transformers
pin. About a year ago I pit a restored pf in it along with new plastics
and polished all the stainless. I also put a Pinbits strobe kit in it. I
bought the new Mirco PF because there is some miner ghosting around a
couple of the inserts and I'm anal. We don't know the price for the TF
LE but I'm wondering if I can get close to it with the AFM and Mirco PF.


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[CEllison]

$4500 - $5000 seems to be the "magical" number these days.
But are you SURE you want to let this go? There's a hell of a lot more
Transformer pins than there are AFM's especially ones in the shape
yours is supposed to be in.
Personally, I say don;t do it.

-=chris=-

[James Lewis]

Thats why I haven't sold it in the past but I don't play it. I have MM
and Spiderman and they are both kind of the same but better. The pics
of TF looks really cool and I would like to have one but my $ is going
to WOZ and I certainly cant buy both.

I sold my corvette last week and thought I might have some money for a
nice dive trip for the family but I took my daughter to the dentist and
ALL of that cash is going in her mouth. She needs a root canal, two caps
and braces. Cha ching, there goes the 15K I got for a car I had 60K in.
:(

I'm certainly going to play it first but I really think I'm going to
ditch the AFM and get TF LE if its as cool as it looks.

[hobs]

Yes,

1 k for the playfield and 4.5 k for the game if the playfield is as
nice as you say with only ghosting.. It would be an easy sell.

Hobbs

[Xerico]

Since I have seen your AFM in person, and I have some experience
selling restored AFM in the past, I will say that you could sell yours
for $7,500+.

I sold a restored AFM a few years back for $6,500. Now for most
titles, the significance of a few years could easily be dismissed,
But for premium A Title games like AFM, they are harder to find in
restored condition and they are significantly more expensive than they
were a few years ago.

I think if you priced it for $5,500 it would sell in minutes. But you
would have left a couple grand on the table.

I also agree with CEllison. An AFM of that caliber should be one of
the last things to go.

Your Spider-Man and LoTR could be sold and replaced for about the same
money.

Your AFM is super nice. It will be very hard to replace it in the
future.

But if you are confident that you are "done" with AFM, then by all
means sell it for something else.
Sitting in a gameroom as a show piece is no way for a top tier game
like AFM to live its life! ;-)

Marcus

[Mike D]

I bought a restored AFM about 2 years ago for 6.5k. That game had new
decals, playfield, ramps, plastics, saucer LED mod, etc. Basically, it
was a brand new game like what Chris or Bryan would do.

I'd wait to see the Transformers pin in action before I sold an AFM for
it. I think you'd probably regret that decision in the long run.
However, if you've got SM and MM as well, then maybe not.

Mike


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Mike D

[Slate]

I disagree. Few and far between would pay that much for an AFM. Yes
there is the clueless buyer with disposable cash who you may find if
you put it on Ebay for a few years.
The last AFM for $5500 that was going around was perfect and it did
not sell for quite some time.

Let's not join the greedy band wagon and try to get un-realistic
prices and over in-flate the pin market.

I really think these over inflated prices are ruining the hobby.

And you will always be able to find an AFM or MM as collectors move on
to other pins and people sell for cash needs, etc.

The blue book on AFM is $4200 and its pretty accurate as it puts MM at
$7000+.

[Simon]

http://www.pinballnews.com/games/transformers/index3.html

Prices etc of transformers

[Riles]

Sorry if I am hi-jacking the thread, but I am looking to get an AFM. I
would consider anything from a decent player (No major PF wear or hogged
out Stoke of Luck holes please) to CQ. Id prefer to avoid having to sell
a kidney though as I am Irish and might need both of them...
I am in NorCal. Please let me know.
-Riles


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Riles

[Xerico]

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James's AFM is not targeted towards those looking for a $4,200 "blue
book" AFM.
If James were selling an AFM with some wear, faded cabinet and minor
technical issues, then $4,200 would be a fair price.

However, James is looking to sell a restored AFM.

His target market is those collectors that want a pristine, near
perfect game. Active collectors in this demographic are typically
well funded and recognize that a $7,000 restored AFM is far cheaper
than buying a 'blue book" AFM and then restoring it. So, they will
give consideration to a pricier game if they feel that is meets their
requirements.

They are not clueless buyer's. They are picky buyers. There is a
significant difference.

Most are willing to pay a premuim for a game that meet's their
criteria.

It is not "joining the greed wagon" to expect a premium price for a
top tier game in premium condition.
The market for top tier restored games is significantly higher than
"blue book".

Just my 0.02.

Marcus

[bbarr2...@yahoo.com]

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James, Problem solved! Look no further! I will give you $5500 for your
restored AFM. PM me for details on shipping or PU.
Thanks!
Jeff

[Gerry]

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I definatley + 1 this statement !

No matter wheather it is an A,B,orC title...the condition is
everything, as far as the value of that game...

I got 1700 for my SST.....and i'm sure alot of you think that i was
crazy for asking tht and that the guy that bought it was crazy for
paying that.....

but the game was pristine, and the guy did not want a SHITTER........

i had the price police telling me to lower the asking price, and you
might sell it......NAH.....it was worth every penny !

higher end condition games are tough to find....you gotta pay up for
the quality....

not to mention that they are easier to sell, later on.....its hard to
push a TERD off on somebody, even if it is cheapish..

people always want a new car for used car money....thats just not the
way it works.....and the pin society seems to be the same, to a large
extent.....

Marcus is right !...a buyer that wants nice stuff will pay for
it.......I do !

[eagle68]

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Xerico is right on the money with his assesment! +1

[NM]

Xerico;1778408 Wrote:
>
>
> James's AFM is not targeted towards those looking for a $4,200 "blue
> book" AFM.
> If James were selling an AFM with some wear, faded cabinet and minor
> technical issues, then $4,200 would be a fair price.
>
> However, James is looking to sell a restored AFM.
>
> His target market is those collectors that want a pristine, near
> perfect game. Active collectors in this demographic are typically
> well funded and recognize that a $7,000 restored AFM is far cheaper
> than buying a 'blue book" AFM and then restoring it. So, they will
> give consideration to a pricier game if they feel that is meets their
> requirements.
>
> They are not clueless buyer's. They are picky buyers. There is a
> significant difference.
>
> Most are willing to pay a premuim for a game that meet's their
> criteria.
>
> It is not "joining the greed wagon" to expect a premium price for a
> top tier game in premium condition.
> The market for top tier restored games is significantly higher than
> "blue book".
>
> Just my 0.02.
>
>

Marcus' assessment of the AFM market is spot on and precisely on the
money.

What one feels a game should be worth has nothing to do with the actual
current market value of this highly desirable title.

The market is what it is.

I'd continuing to hold that fine example of yours James.

Regards,

Neil.

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NM

[pinstor]

Slate and CE.

I will gladly give you $200 finder's fee for evvery fully restored AFM
with new clearcoated playfields, plastics, etc.... that you find for
4200-4500.

Just putting an offer out there.
Thanks.

[James Lewis]

Can I see if I like TF first? You guys would really think I was a
dipshit if I sold the AFM and then was crying that I didnt like TF.

[Sam]

Why would you care what people think? Fact is you don't play AFM.
Whether you like TF or not doesn't change the fact that you don't play
AFM. If it turns out you don't like TF, then sell it and get
something else. Absolutely no point keeping a game that you don't
play. Let someone else enjoy it.

Sam

[ffr3064k]

For what it is worth, I was offered 6k for my AFM just earlier this
week. It is not restored but a HUO in very nice condition. Probably a
solid 9.5 all the way around with everything working 100%


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ffr3064k

[James Lewis]

SamW;1778552 Wrote:
> On Sep 9, 8:31*pm, James Lewis <zr11... (AT) sbcglobal (DOT) net>

> wrote:
> > Can I see if I like TF first? You guys would really think I was a
> > dipshit if I sold the AFM and then was crying that I didnt like TF.
> >
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> > James Lewis

> > This USENET post sent from *http://rgparchive.com

>
> Why would you care what people think? Fact is you don't play AFM.
> Whether you like TF or not doesn't change the fact that you don't play
> AFM. If it turns out you don't like TF, then sell it and get
> something else. Absolutely no point keeping a game that you don't
> play. Let someone else enjoy it.
>
> Sam

I am the last person to care what others think. I meant that I want to
make sure that I like TF enough to get rid of my AFM for it. That is the
first game that I restored and if I sold it to buy a game I hadn't
played and then didn't like said game I would be pissed at myself.

[Taylorva]

I own a restored AFM, and while I don't play it right now I will
probably never own as nice of an example as I do now. In lieu of that I
will not sell it. I know that I'll be back to it and would be kicking
myself if I had let it go.

I wouldn't even consider it until I had a chance to play a Transformers
or any pin I was thinking of dumping such a game for.


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Taylorva

[Pinhack]

Selling a top 5 Bally/Williams pin for the next Stern LE doesnt seem
like a good plan. Ive talked to quite a few people who have sold their
AFM's and all regret it. I've sold 2 Stern LE's and dont miss either.


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Pinhack