Dark Elf Giant Spider
Robert McDonald
opponent has allowed me to field it with the following profile, if I can get
broad agreement on this chat line about the costs etc. So here it is for
your approval or otherwise.
Giant Spider
Move 6 , WSkill 4, BSk 0, Str 4, Tgh 4, Wnds 3, In 3, Lds 8
Cause Fear
Poison attacks
Cost 85pts and a special choice.
This is not to be confused with the giant spider swarms as listed in the
orc&goblin book which he has allowed me to use as is in the dark elf army.
Cheers
Rob
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P Bowles
<rob...@ozemail.com.au> writes:
>Giant Spider
>Move 6 , WSkill 4, BSk 0, Str 4, Tgh 4, Wnds 3, In 3, Lds 8
>Cause Fear
>Poison attacks
The old Gigantic Spider would be represented in v6 as follows:
M WS BS S T W I A Ld
5 3 0 5 4 4 1 2 7
Special: Ignores terrain penalties while moving. Poisoned attacks would also be
sensible, though there were no rules representing them in previous editions.
Back in those days, the cost for the creature was 50pts. Its statline doesn't
really justify any increase in that. Like other unridden monsters such as Great
Eagles and most Swarms, it should probably be a Rare choice.
Philip Bowles
aleph
at most.
RT Maitreya
> Giant Spider
> Move 6 , WSkill 4, BSk 0, Str 4, Tgh 4, Wnds 3, In 3, Lds 8
> Cause Fear
> Poison attacks
> Cost 85pts and a special choice.
Overcosted as is, slightly, and should be rare.
The bottom line is that I'd have NO problem
having you bring one in to a game, even without
asking my permission until right before the game.
Your attacks should be 4.
Don't increase ST higher than 4, that
value is perfect. The earlier versions
had a higher ST to reflect their poison.
> This is not to be confused with the giant spider swarms as listed in the
> orc&goblin book which he has allowed me to use as is in the dark elf army.
What a cool army! Do you have Driders or
spider riders in there as well?
RTM
Robert McDonald
I would love to have some driders. I have always loved them from D&D days.
(Being a cross between a dark elf and giant spider for those who don't
follow it).
Unfortunately I don't have any unusual dark elf figures except the inclusion
of the spider swarms and the single giant spider.
Cheers
Rob
Robert McDonald
Well there is agreement that it should be a rare choice, so I guess that
makes sence (cuts into my mercenaries, but that the way it goes).
I think STR 4 with poison attacks would be ok, and since it is probably like
the spider in Lord of the Rings, (but smaller) it would have poison fangs
and a poison sting, so all attacks could be considered poison attacks.
I hesitate to reduce the cost too much because spider swarms are 50pts so a
giant spider should a fair bit more. I also feel it should be able to defeat
a spider swarm in a straight fight, so WSK4 should be kept, hence the higher
point cost.
The new stat line is therefore something like this,
Giant Spider
Move 6 , WSkill 4, BSk 0, Str 4, Tgh 4, Wnds 3, Att 3, In 2, Lds 8
Cause Fear
Poison attacks
ignore difficult terrain (except swamps, rivers etc).
Cost 80pts and a RARE choice.
Please submit any objections or agreements with this profile.
Cheers
Rob
RT Maitreya
> I would love to have some driders. I have always loved them from D&D days.
> (Being a cross between a dark elf and giant spider for those who don't
> follow it).
> Unfortunately I don't have any unusual dark elf figures except the inclusion
> of the spider swarms and the single giant spider.
ALL things are possible with the release of DE plastics. . .
RTM
RT Maitreya
> Giant Spider
> Move 6 , WSkill 4, BSk 0, Str 4, Tgh 4, Wnds 3, Att 3, In 2, Lds 8
> Cause Fear
> Poison attacks
> ignore difficult terrain (except swamps, rivers etc).
> Cost 80pts and a RARE choice.
>
> Please submit any objections or agreements with this profile.
Sounds great, except I'd keep I3 to
strike at the same time as humans.
Spiders are FAST!
RTM
Jim M
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would work for a drider...hmmm I may have to check my bits box I feel a
conversion coming on...
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Jim M
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> ral partha made dridders.
> Steve
True enough, but Ral Partha is owned by Fasa, which is on the way bye-bye...
RT Maitreya
> True enough, but Ral Partha is owned by Fasa, which is on the way bye-bye...
But wiz kids have already expressed interest in
keeping open the foundry for the battletech
minis, as to the other ranges, we don't know.
Fantasy is unlikely to go, but expect to
see MK-style pewter collectible figs instead.
RTM
Jim M
can remember...
Robert McDonald
That sounds ok, does anyone else disagree on I3?
Jim M
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Angulion
<< I would love to have some driders. I have always loved them from D&D days.
(Being a cross between a dark elf and giant spider for those who don't
follow it).
Unfortunately I don't have any unusual dark elf figures except the inclusion
of the spider swarms and the single giant spider.>>
RAFM makes (made?) driders. I bought a handful in a temporary fit of insanity,
now they're collecting dust in a box in some dark corner of my miniatures room
(well, it's really a glorified closet....)
DD
RT Maitreya
> It seems to me that the torso from a Dark Eldar Warrior and a Spiders body,
> would work for a drider...hmmm I may have to check my bits box I feel a
> conversion coming on...
Got a great idea. . .
I was looking through my collections, and
found a bunch of vinyl spiders I was going
to use for spider riders. . . They are a
little smaller than horses, but take up
more real estate. . . Find a small-medium
vinyl spider source and kitbash your driders
from plastic DE models when they come out.
You may need a little green stuff to make
the seam come out well, but I've found that
green stuff and elastomeric patching compound
adhere well to vinyl beasties if you pin
the items together first.
RTM
RT Maitreya
> > That sounds ok, does anyone else disagree on I3?
> >
> I'm a bit shaky on why they should get 3 attacks...
To keep them competitive. They should have
three or four attacks, just like all larger
based monsters and infantry.
One or two attacks, and they become hideously
overcosted and under-effective.
RTM
DellCry
<rob...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
> > Robert McDonald wrote:
> I would love to have some driders. I have always loved them from D&D days.
> (Being a cross between a dark elf and giant spider for those who don't
> follow it).
> Unfortunately I don't have any unusual dark elf figures except the inclusion
> of the spider swarms and the single giant spider.
>
> Cheers
> Rob
RAFM used to make a really cool drider figure. I used to field one in my
dark elf army. We just ran it as a dark elf hero mounted on a giant
spider.
DellCry
<rob...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
The last edition of the army list has a gigantic spider in it. The stats were:
M5 WS3 BS0 S5 T4 W4 I1 A2 Ld7 50 pt.s
Causes fear, 4+ armor save, not slowed by difficult ground or obstacles.
Also was a bound monster, subject to the bound monster rules.
Doctor Faust
theme and here I thought I was being original. :( Besides converting
characters from the Salvatore books and making the cold ones a bit more
gecko like, they should be a perfect match for the Do' Urden clan.
Doctor Faust
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Robert McDonald
> >
> I'm a bit shaky on why they should get 3 attacks...
Sorry I didn't get back to you earlier.
The giant spider model is not the normal giant spider you have with goblin
riders. Its much larger. It only just fits on its base, with its body almost
5cm long and chunky.
Creatures of that size desirve more than 1 or even 2 attacks, and the point
cost is resonable.
Cheers
Rob