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Rive...@hotmail.com

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Jan 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/25/99
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Hiya, (or Greetings and Well Met, Fair Wanderers - or - Sup Doodz?)

Occaionally, I like to put running shoes on my characters and take them to
Hythloth. It's too much fun to spend oogles of time fleeing from hell hounds
or trying to walk around with my pants full of rats and snakes. It's like
trying to walk with a live ferret in each pant leg; but enough of my
social life. I've died enough times in there that I'm the only person ever to
get the fame rating of "poor bastard."

That being said: I like the place a lot. However, when I try and recount some
part of my latest adventure, I end up with my tongue stuck to the roof of my
mouth, like eating a thick peanutbutter sandwich then trying to whistle the
"Star Spangled Banner," complete with piccolo solo. So, how do you say,
Hythloth? Hith-Loth, or Hi-th-loth or Hide-The-Sloth? Any other tidbits of
lore would be greatly appreciated, such as what the name means or how the
dungeon got there or who is that ugly beast at the keyboard .... (oops)

Regards and Fair Travels to Thee

C U L8R Dood

Riven, Necromancer Mage on Chesapeake; Stormcloud, Fighting Bard on
Catskills; Either one of these guys wlll help you out with anything you need,
gold, armor, protection, healing, gating or just someone friendly to talk to.
Just Ask.

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Gresh

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Jan 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/25/99
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> That being said: I like the place a lot. However, when I try and recount some
>part of my latest adventure, I end up with my tongue stuck to the roof of my
>mouth, like eating a thick peanutbutter sandwich then trying to whistle the
>"Star Spangled Banner," complete with piccolo solo. So, how do you say,
>Hythloth? Hith-Loth, or Hi-th-loth or Hide-The-Sloth? Any other tidbits of
>lore would be greatly appreciated, such as what the name means or how the
>dungeon got there or who is that ugly beast at the keyboard .... (oops)

Mentally, I always called it "that place where my guildmates used to
go and die all the time and i had to go rezz them even if i was in the
middle of mining or something ..." but now that appellation belongs
to the terrathan keep so it's back to "hith-loth".

Gresh, Catskills

Lambert

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Jan 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/25/99
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In article <78idnd$ll$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>, Rive...@hotmail.com
writes

>Hiya, (or Greetings and Well Met, Fair Wanderers - or - Sup Doodz?)
>
> Occaionally, I like to put running shoes on my characters and take them to
>Hythloth. It's too much fun to spend oogles of time fleeing from hell hounds
>or trying to walk around with my pants full of rats and snakes. It's like
>trying to walk with a live ferret in each pant leg; but enough of my
>social life. I've died enough times in there that I'm the only person ever to
>get the fame rating of "poor bastard."
>
> That being said: I like the place a lot. However, when I try and recount some
>part of my latest adventure, I end up with my tongue stuck to the roof of my
>mouth, like eating a thick peanutbutter sandwich then trying to whistle the
>"Star Spangled Banner," complete with piccolo solo. So, how do you say,
>Hythloth? Hith-Loth, or Hi-th-loth or Hide-The-Sloth? Any other tidbits of
>lore would be greatly appreciated, such as what the name means or how the
>dungeon got there or who is that ugly beast at the keyboard .... (oops)
>
>
>

Personally I say Hith-loth.

Many months ago I remember reading a post by either Boomer or DD that
explained the origin of the name of hythloth.

In UO if you mark a rune in hythloth it actually names the rune hyloth.
This was because when Richard Garriet was naming the dungeons he decided
upon the name hythloth but for some reason someone misspelt it hyloth.

The name comes from old english language and does have a meaning but I
cant for the life of me remember what it is.

I tried a quick search on deja-news but it didnt help any. Perhaps
someone else who has been here a long time will remember. The post was
made sometime around january or febuary last year on this newsgroup.

Anyone?

Embassy
http://uoss.stratics.com

Dennis Francis Heffernan

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Jan 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/25/99
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On Mon, 25 Jan 1999 19:57:00 +0000, Lambert <s...@rford.demon.co.uk> wrote:

|In UO if you mark a rune in hythloth it actually names the rune hyloth.
|This was because when Richard Garriet was naming the dungeons he decided
|upon the name hythloth but for some reason someone misspelt it hyloth.

Other way around; he wanted Hyloth and got Hythloth, and IIRC made the
mistake himself.

|The name comes from old english language and does have a meaning but I
|cant for the life of me remember what it is.

It comes from the word hylotheism, an old word for materialism (the belief
that the universe is made up only of matter with no spiritual elements).
Dennis F. Heffernan UO: Venture (Catskills) dfra...@email.com
Montclair State U #include <disclaim.h> ICQ:9154048 CompSci/Philosophy
"And I say now these kittens, they do not get trained/As we did in the days
when Victoria reigned." -- T. S. Eliot, "Gus, the Theatre Cat"

Lambert

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Jan 26, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/26/99
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In article <36aceb76.283232610@news>, Dennis Francis Heffernan
<dfra...@email.com> writes

>On Mon, 25 Jan 1999 19:57:00 +0000, Lambert <s...@rford.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>|In UO if you mark a rune in hythloth it actually names the rune hyloth.
>|This was because when Richard Garriet was naming the dungeons he decided
>|upon the name hythloth but for some reason someone misspelt it hyloth.
>
> Other way around; he wanted Hyloth and got Hythloth, and IIRC made the
>mistake himself.
>
>|The name comes from old english language and does have a meaning but I
>|cant for the life of me remember what it is.
>
> It comes from the word hylotheism, an old word for materialism (the
>belief
>that the universe is made up only of matter with no spiritual elements).

Thanks Dennis, nice to see someone who pays more attention than I do :)

Embassy
http://uoss.stratics.com

Dennis Francis Heffernan

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Jan 26, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/26/99
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On Tue, 26 Jan 1999 00:03:38 +0000, Lambert <s...@rford.demon.co.uk> wrote:

|Thanks Dennis, nice to see someone who pays more attention than I do :)

The curse of an eidetic memory -- useless trivia sticks whether you want
it or not.

Driakos

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Jan 26, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/26/99
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Dennis Francis Heffernan wrote in

> The curse of an eidetic memory -- useless trivia sticks whether you want
>it or not.


If you haven't already you should read the Urth books by Gene Wolfe. The
main character Severian has a similar problem. I forget the original titles
but they can be bought in 2 book volumes now. Sword & Citadel, and Shadow &
Claw. I think Original titles were Claw of the Concilliator, Sword of the
Lichtor, and Citadel of the Autarch. I am sorry I cannot be more specific,
but I am not blessed/cursed with a precise memory. (reading them 5+ years
ago doesn't help either)

Driakos.

Otara Napa

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Jan 27, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/27/99
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The Torturer books I think?

Otara, Napa
(who was taught that eidetic memories dont really exist as such - some people
just have better memories than others).

The Philosopher Primus

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Jan 27, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/27/99
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Driakos wrote:

> Dennis Francis Heffernan wrote in
>
> > The curse of an eidetic memory -- useless trivia sticks whether you want
> >it or not.
>
> If you haven't already you should read the Urth books by Gene Wolfe. The
> main character Severian has a similar problem.

In my case, it isn't that I remember things with such detail and accuracy, but
that I feel those details are all that important. There were a lot of times
when I could not laugh at a Mr Spock or Data spew of trivia on Star Trek because
I had done the same thing so many times.

And never understood why people thought the truth was so unimportant.

Dennis Francis Heffernan

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Jan 27, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/27/99
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On Wed, 27 Jan 1999 19:53:06 GMT, sp...@spammity.com (Otara Napa) wrote:

|(who was taught that eidetic memories dont really exist as such - some people
|just have better memories than others).

Nah, untrue. John von Neumann was able to quote verbatim from any page of
any book he'd ever read, even if he hadn't seen it in years. Of course, he
was Brainiac's smarter brother.

Driakos

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Jan 27, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/27/99
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Otara Napa wrote in message

>The Torturer books I think?


Yeah Severian the Apprentice Torturer. Later on he became Journeyman and
then Grandmaster. You know he is a macro'er :) I did like how the books
used the old trade guild titles though. Good stuff.

Driakos.

Otara Napa

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Jan 28, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/28/99
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The original claim was there was somethng 'different' about such brains - the
general consensus now is that they are just people with far better memories than
most people - and that they arent always quite as perfect in their recall as the
stories suggest.

Otara, Napa

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