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DLE

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Apr 14, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/14/97
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Is this true that all it takes to qualify for greybeardom is a year in the
group?
Caitlin Dragon
-={UDIC}=-
FBC Queen
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MadHatter:"If that's what you believe you have another
think coming. Want to take it now?"
Alice:"Take what?"
MadHatter:"A THINK! You have one coming you know."

M. Wiselius

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*Scratches his beard and looks slightly disturbed*
What are you talking about?

The White Lotus Dragon
http://huizen.dds.nl/~marcwise

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Strother

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On 14 Apr 1997 00:33:18 GMT, "DLE" <the...@swbell.net> wrote:

>Is this true that all it takes to qualify for greybeardom is a year in the
>group?
>Caitlin Dragon
>-={UDIC}=-
>FBC Queen
>--

Heck, Caitlin, tackling Ultima in, what, 1985?, should qualify us for
something....

Louise Dragon

Billy D. Cruise

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Strother wrote:
>
> On 14 Apr 1997 00:33:18 GMT, "DLE" <the...@swbell.net> wrote:
>
> >Is this true that all it takes to qualify for greybeardom is a year in the
> >group?

> Heck, Caitlin, tackling Ultima in, what, 1985?, should qualify us for
> something....

I shudder to think what that would make me then...pardon
me while I hobble off to the Shady Grove Home for Ultimaniacs. <g>
(hmm, isn't that up near Yew somewhere?)
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Most Violent Dragon

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Henryk Bochmann wrote:
>
> DLE <the...@swbell.net> wrote:
> > Is this true that all it takes to qualify for greybeardom is a year in the
> > group?
>
> An active year in the group. And you must be appointed.
>
> --
> F-15 Dragon

Appointed? By whom?
Do I see some kind of ranking here??? <g>

I am within the club since Jan. 1996, and although
I don`t have a beard, me think that it would be grey! :)

Greetings
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DLE

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> > Heck, Caitlin, tackling Ultima in, what, 1985?, should qualify us for
> > something....
> >

> > Louise Dragon
>
> Louise you SHOULD qualify for greybeardom. Dear, it was the year after
you
> moved to Belton and it was 1984. In fact it was the summer of '84 and the
> computer we played it on was an Amiga 500. :)


> Caitlin Dragon
> -={UDIC}=-
> FBC Queen

OOPS! Now *I* qualify for greybeardom! The computer was an Atari ST! :) I
don't think it even had 64k of memory. I remember sitting in your kitchen
and talking about how in ten years (!) they'd have computers on the market
with 1 meg of memory and being impressed!

Paul Counts

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It is true that a year in the UDIC qualifies you to become a Greybeard.
What does one get for being a Greybeard? Well, you have the opportunity
to add the official Greybeard to your UDIC badge. Each additional year
qualifies you to add another chevron to your beard. What else do you get?
The official sanction of the UDICGB to grouse about how the club was so
much better in the 'good old days'. (=

~Geo

g...@geocities.com http://www.inficad.com/~geo/
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Excalibur Dragon

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On Mon, 14 Apr 1997 14:54:20 +0200, Most Violent Dragon
<T.Ne...@tu-bs.de> wrote:

>I am within the club since Jan. 1996, and although
>I don`t have a beard, me think that it would be grey! :)

Heck, I've been in the club since Feb. '95, and my '95-'96 year was
pretty darn active (my '97 isn't starting out all that active, but...)
AND... I DO have a beard. Not grey, though. :)

- Rich (Would need paint for that.)


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DLE

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1. Who determines if your level of activity is high enough?
2. Appointed by WHO???!!!!
This does NOT sound like the UDIC I know. Something smells VERY fishy here.

Caitlin Dragon
-={UDIC}=-
FBC QUEEN
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DLE

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--


Strother <jls...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in article
<3351d83f...@nntp.ix.netcom.com>...


> On 14 Apr 1997 00:33:18 GMT, "DLE" <the...@swbell.net> wrote:
>
> >Is this true that all it takes to qualify for greybeardom is a year in
the
> >group?

> >Caitlin Dragon
> >-={UDIC}=-

> >FBC Queen
> >--

>
> Heck, Caitlin, tackling Ultima in, what, 1985?, should qualify us for
> something....
>
> Louise Dragon

Louise you SHOULD qualify for greybeardom. Dear, it was the year after you
moved to Belton and it was 1984. In fact it was the summer of '84 and the
computer we played it on was an Amiga 500. :)

Caitlin Dragon
-={UDIC}=-

FBC Queen


Christopher A. Tew

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On Mon, 14 Apr 1997 14:54:20 +0200, Most Violent Dragon
<T.Ne...@tu-bs.de> wrote:

>Henryk Bochmann wrote:
>>
>> DLE <the...@swbell.net> wrote:
>> > Is this true that all it takes to qualify for greybeardom is a year in the
>> > group?
>>

>> An active year in the group. And you must be appointed.
>>
>> --
>> F-15 Dragon
>

>Appointed? By whom?
>Do I see some kind of ranking here??? <g>

IST GVT! IST GVT! IST GVT! AGGGGGGH! :P


;-)

TDFKAA


*
Ain't it dead yet?
*

Gazza

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On 14 Apr 1997, DLE wrote:

> 1. Who determines if your level of activity is high enough?
> 2. Appointed by WHO???!!!!
> This does NOT sound like the UDIC I know. Something smells VERY fishy here.

> Caitlin Dragon
> -={UDIC}=-

> FBC QUEEN

Must be the dolphins;-)

Gazza Dragon
-==(UDIC)==-


Paul Counts

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DLE <the...@swbell.net> wrote:
> 1. Who determines if your level of activity is high enough?
> 2. Appointed by WHO???!!!!
> This does NOT sound like the UDIC I know. Something smells VERY fishy here.
> Caitlin Dragon

1) Do you have a pulse? Have you had a pulse for the last 365 days?
2) The great, almighty prophet of jello(tm). Or a big halibut.
The halibut is the fishy smell. (=
Now, to get into the EGBOTUDIC, you need to talk to F15.

Hint: quoting material *before* your response makes it much more likely
that others will read your post. It has something to do with linear
thought-processes inherant in the english language...

~Geo

Edward Franks

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My glass typewriter shows DLE saying...

> Is this true that all it takes to qualify for greybeardom is a year in the
> group?

Perhaps we should all create an award and award it to everyone
else. <grin> We could have an feeding frenzy of mutual (and mutually
meaningless) awards. <chuckle>

On the other hand, Greybearddom does seem to violate the
principles of UDIC in that it creates a set of haves and have-nots.

Fortran

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devere1

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Paul Counts <g...@user2.inficad.com> wrote in article
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> DLE <the...@swbell.net> wrote:


> Hint: quoting material *before* your response makes it much more likely
> that others will read your post. It has something to do with linear
> thought-processes inherant in the english language...


But it's more fun with nonlinear thought proccesses and multiple endings.
Multiplayer is a nice addition, too.....

-Ophidian Dragon

devere1

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DLE <the...@swbell.net> wrote in article

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> moved to Belton and it was 1984. In fact it was the summer of '84 and the
> computer we played it on was an Amiga 500. :)

Isn't there a song called the "Summer of '84?" :-)

-Ophidian Dragon

Strother

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On 14 Apr 1997 18:19:05 GMT, "DLE" <the...@swbell.net> wrote:

>
>--
>
>
>Strother <jls...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in article
><3351d83f...@nntp.ix.netcom.com>...
>>

>> Heck, Caitlin, tackling Ultima in, what, 1985?, should qualify us for
>> something....
>>
>> Louise Dragon
>
>Louise you SHOULD qualify for greybeardom. Dear, it was the year after you

>moved to Belton and it was 1984. In fact it was the summer of '84 and the
>computer we played it on was an Amiga 500. :)

>Caitlin Dragon
>-={UDIC}=-

>FBC Queen
>
Hmmmm. We're so old and grey that the memory is going. We never had
an Amiga. It was an Atari 800, then we got the 1050e. And we used to
try to hunt people up on bulletin boards in an attempt to find a few
clues! But we solved III with no help from anyone (No cheating).

Lousie Dragon

Stephen Tjasink

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In <5isc3u$o...@irz401.inf.tu-dresden.de> Henryk Bochmann <boch...@TUDURZ.urz.tu-dresden.de> writes:

>DLE <the...@swbell.net> wrote:
>> Is this true that all it takes to qualify for greybeardom is a year in the
>> group?

>An active year in the group. And you must be appointed.

Hrm... what's the exchange rate between active years and inactive years? ;)

VD

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DLE

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Gazza <nbr...@gl.umbc.edu> wrote in article
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> On 14 Apr 1997, DLE wrote:
>
> > 1. Who determines if your level of activity is high enough?
> > 2. Appointed by WHO???!!!!
> > This does NOT sound like the UDIC I know. Something smells VERY fishy
here.

> > Caitlin Dragon
> > -={UDIC}=-

> > FBC QUEEN
>
> Must be the dolphins;-)
>
> Gazza Dragon
> -==(UDIC)==-

ROFLMAO
WHEN are you people going to learn to give warning?
Caitlin Dragon (Wiping coffee off of her monitor)

Michael Carmack

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Strother (jls...@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
: Hmmmm. We're so old and grey that the memory is going. We never had

: an Amiga. It was an Atari 800, then we got the 1050e. And we used to
: try to hunt people up on bulletin boards in an attempt to find a few
: clues! But we solved III with no help from anyone (No cheating).

Ech, you people are mere whelps. I was playing Akalabeth on a slide rule
in 1969 on my way to Woodstock.
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KNOCK OFF ALL THAT EVIL!" | Vulcan Dragon -==(UDIC)==-
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Christopher A. Tew

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On Mon, 14 Apr 1997 15:55:32 -0500, xy...@ponyexpress.net (Edward
Franks) wrote:

>My glass typewriter shows DLE saying...

>> Is this true that all it takes to qualify for greybeardom is a year in the
>> group?
>

> Perhaps we should all create an award and award it to everyone
>else. <grin> We could have an feeding frenzy of mutual (and mutually
>meaningless) awards. <chuckle>

We could be like Hollywood and the American music industry! Wooha.
Er.

Fiki-fiki oogly oogly....SAY IT NOW!

Paul Counts

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Henryk Bochmann <boch...@TUDURZ.urz.tu-dresden.de> wrote:
> Well, with the sudden interest I guess Geo needs to invent the
> UDIC Blackbeards (2 years membership minimum) :)

<lol> Hey, I like that...

~Geo

Mark Maurer

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Michael Carmack (mcar...@freenet.columbus.oh.us) wrote:

: Strother (jls...@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
: : Hmmmm. We're so old and grey that the memory is going. We never had
: : an Amiga. It was an Atari 800, then we got the 1050e. And we used to
: : try to hunt people up on bulletin boards in an attempt to find a few
: : clues! But we solved III with no help from anyone (No cheating).
:
: Ech, you people are mere whelps. I was playing Akalabeth on a slide rule
: in 1969 on my way to Woodstock.

Hehehe....From the age you have given in previous posts, you didn't even know
what the hell Woodstock was....*grin*
--
Mark Maurer mwma...@mtu.edu mwma...@colossus.csl.mtu.edu
Undergraduate, Computer Science Michigan Technological University
Exanter Dragon ---==[UDIC]==--- http://www.csl.mtu.edu/~mwmaurer
"No witty saying at this time...."

Paul Counts

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Edward Franks <xy...@ponyexpress.net> wrote:
> Perhaps we should all create an award and award it to everyone
> else. <grin> We could have an feeding frenzy of mutual (and mutually
> meaningless) awards. <chuckle>

Erraticus already did that... :P

> On the other hand, Greybearddom does seem to violate the
> principles of UDIC in that it creates a set of haves and have-nots.

Ah, but the Greybeard ribbon is not 'Official'. And no one takes it
seriously anyway... <chuckle>

~Geo

Carolyn Poulter

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Michael Carmack wrote:

> Actually I was born almost four months before the Woodstock. I *did* make
> it to Woodstock '94, but of course I forgot my darn slide-rule version of
> Akalabeth! (There was no room anyway...too much beer in the van.)


> --
> ========================================================================
> "Villains, I say to you now: | Mike Carmack
> KNOCK OFF ALL THAT EVIL!" | Vulcan Dragon -==(UDIC)==-

OH god I am old old old old ................


I was abit too young for Woodstock ...I am a kind of latter-day-hippie
almost the right age but not quite.

typical..I am always too early or too late for most events!

Unicorn
Carolyn Poulter
http://www.cool.mb.ca/~carolyn/

Edward Franks

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My glass typewriter shows Paul Counts saying...

> > On the other hand, Greybearddom does seem to violate the
> > principles of UDIC in that it creates a set of haves and have-nots.
>
> Ah, but the Greybeard ribbon is not 'Official'. And no one takes it
> seriously anyway... <chuckle>

<chuckle> Neither do I, but have you noticed the effect that
these awards and lists have on people? Quite interesting in a group
that is generally determinedly anarchaic.

I first noticed this in private emails concerning 'Phids Dragon
Directory. Several people told me that they wanted to be on the list.
Notice how 'Phid's most posts list affected some Dragons.

In a group that has a very high quotient of intelligent people
I'm surprised these thing matter so much. I don't know whether people
want the praise or if they have some deep-seated need to know where
they stand in some ranking. What do all of you Dragons think?

Fortran

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Edward Franks

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My glass typewriter shows Strother saying...
> On Tue, 15 Apr 1997 18:39:53 -0500, xy...@ponyexpress.net (Edward
> Franks) wrote:
>
> >My glass typewriter shows Michael Carmack saying...

> >> Strother (jls...@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
> >> : Hmmmm. We're so old and grey that the memory is going. We never had
> >> : an Amiga. It was an Atari 800, then we got the 1050e. And we used to
> >> : try to hunt people up on bulletin boards in an attempt to find a few
> >> : clues! But we solved III with no help from anyone (No cheating).
> >>
> >> Ech, you people are mere whelps. I was playing Akalabeth on a slide rule
> >> in 1969 on my way to Woodstock.
> >
> > Don't forget the graph paper. <grin>
> >
> Ooooooo! Now THAT'S the way I LIKE it! Talk graph paper to me, baby!

Pencils. Rule books. Late night pizza. <grin>

Gary McHugh

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mcar...@freenet.columbus.oh.us (Michael Carmack) wrote:

>Mark Maurer (mwma...@mtu.edu) wrote:
>: Michael Carmack (mcar...@freenet.columbus.oh.us) wrote:
>
>: : Ech, you people are mere whelps. I was playing Akalabeth on a slide rule


>: : in 1969 on my way to Woodstock.
>

>: Hehehe....From the age you have given in previous posts, you didn't even know


>: what the hell Woodstock was....*grin*
>

>Actually I was born almost four months before the Woodstock. I *did* make
>it to Woodstock '94, but of course I forgot my darn slide-rule version of
>Akalabeth! (There was no room anyway...too much beer in the van.)
>--
>========================================================================
>"Villains, I say to you now: | Mike Carmack
> KNOCK OFF ALL THAT EVIL!" | Vulcan Dragon -==(UDIC)==-

> S P O O N !!!! - The Tick | mcar...@freenet.columbus.oh.us

Woodstock? !Beer!?

Octal Dragon


Edward Franks

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My glass typewriter shows Michael Carmack saying...
> Strother (jls...@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
> : Hmmmm. We're so old and grey that the memory is going. We never had
> : an Amiga. It was an Atari 800, then we got the 1050e. And we used to
> : try to hunt people up on bulletin boards in an attempt to find a few
> : clues! But we solved III with no help from anyone (No cheating).
>
> Ech, you people are mere whelps. I was playing Akalabeth on a slide rule
> in 1969 on my way to Woodstock.

Don't forget the graph paper. <grin>

Fortran

Michael Carmack

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Mark Maurer (mwma...@mtu.edu) wrote:
: Michael Carmack (mcar...@freenet.columbus.oh.us) wrote:

: : Ech, you people are mere whelps. I was playing Akalabeth on a slide rule


: : in 1969 on my way to Woodstock.

: Hehehe....From the age you have given in previous posts, you didn't even know

Strother

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On 15 Apr 1997 08:31:05 -0400, mcar...@freenet.columbus.oh.us
(Michael Carmack) wrote:

>Strother (jls...@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
>: Hmmmm. We're so old and grey that the memory is going. We never had
>: an Amiga. It was an Atari 800, then we got the 1050e. And we used to
>: try to hunt people up on bulletin boards in an attempt to find a few
>: clues! But we solved III with no help from anyone (No cheating).
>

>Ech, you people are mere whelps. I was playing Akalabeth on a slide rule
>in 1969 on my way to Woodstock.

>--

Ohhh! And you probably studied programming from Grace Murray Hopper,
too! Well, I admit that I didn't attend Woodstock, but my DH did (for
real, man).

Louise Dragon

Strother

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On Tue, 15 Apr 1997 18:39:53 -0500, xy...@ponyexpress.net (Edward
Franks) wrote:

>My glass typewriter shows Michael Carmack saying...

>> Strother (jls...@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
>> : Hmmmm. We're so old and grey that the memory is going. We never had
>> : an Amiga. It was an Atari 800, then we got the 1050e. And we used to
>> : try to hunt people up on bulletin boards in an attempt to find a few
>> : clues! But we solved III with no help from anyone (No cheating).
>>
>> Ech, you people are mere whelps. I was playing Akalabeth on a slide rule
>> in 1969 on my way to Woodstock.
>

> Don't forget the graph paper. <grin>
>
>Fortran

Ooooooo! Now THAT'S the way I LIKE it! Talk graph paper to me, baby!

Louise Dragon

Andrew D. Charlton

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Paul Counts <g...@user2.inficad.com> wrote:
>Hint: quoting material *before* your response makes it much more likely
>that others will read your post. It has something to do with linear
>thought-processes inherant in the english language...

But it's more fun with nonlinear thought proccesses and multiple endings.
Multiplayer is a nice addition, too.....

--
____/\___ Erraticus
___/__\__) -==(UDIC)==-
(__/ \__ \\//
/ \ \/

Daermonestroer Dragon

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On Tue, 15 Apr 1997 22:35:51 -0500, xy...@ponyexpress.net (Edward Franks)
wrote:

>My glass typewriter shows Paul Counts saying...

Both ;)

<Daer points out that he not once attempted to participate in the posting-
quantity race, nor has he ever inquired into greybearddom -- he is probably
not grumpy enough for that, anyway>
--
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http://anytime.cs.umass.edu/~danilche/DaerInfo.html
o
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Strother

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On Tue, 15 Apr 1997 22:29:49 -0500, xy...@ponyexpress.net (Edward
Franks) wrote:

>My glass typewriter shows Strother saying...


>> On Tue, 15 Apr 1997 18:39:53 -0500, xy...@ponyexpress.net (Edward
>> Franks) wrote:
>>
>> >My glass typewriter shows Michael Carmack saying...
>> >> Strother (jls...@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
>> >> : Hmmmm. We're so old and grey that the memory is going. We never had
>> >> : an Amiga. It was an Atari 800, then we got the 1050e. And we used to
>> >> : try to hunt people up on bulletin boards in an attempt to find a few
>> >> : clues! But we solved III with no help from anyone (No cheating).
>> >>
>> >> Ech, you people are mere whelps. I was playing Akalabeth on a slide rule
>> >> in 1969 on my way to Woodstock.
>> >
>> > Don't forget the graph paper. <grin>
>> >

>> Ooooooo! Now THAT'S the way I LIKE it! Talk graph paper to me, baby!
>

> Pencils. Rule books. Late night pizza. <grin>
>
>Fortran
>

.....Now, don't go forgetting the dice ...

Louise

Billy D. Cruise

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Michael Cecil wrote:

> That reminds me of the older computer games. Does anyone remember
> mapping out the Deathtraps in the dungeons of Bard's Tale 2? Geez...I
> haven't mapped out a game by hand in a couple of years at least.

Oh, yes...<g> Especially the 'Rote Snare' that required performing
the same procedure over and over about twenty times before the party
could escape. That coupled with some of those huge dark rooms filled
with spinners and traps (and of course they were no magic zones) drove
me completely crazy!
I still have those old maps, although some of the portions that
contain the mad scamblings (and scribblings) while I tried to solve
the puzzles before the timer ran out are a bit convoluted...<g>
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DLE

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Edward Franks <xy...@ponyexpress.net> wrote in article
<MPG.dbe38c0e...@news.ponyexpress.net>...

+ Don't forget the graph paper. <grin>
++ Ooooooo! Now THAT'S the way I LIKE it! Talk graph paper to me, baby!
+++ Pencils. Rule books. Late night pizza. <grin>
++++.....Now, don't go forgetting the dice ...
+++++ Oh yes. The dice. Did you ever have a person in your groups
+++++ that rattled their dice in their hands for about a minute before
+++++ actually rolling them on the table?
+++++ Or someone who believed their dice were 'lucky' and wouldn't let
+++++ you touch their dice?
+++++ Of course there was the one guy who got pissed and threw a
+++++ twenty-sided *through* the carbon DM's screen...
+++++ Fortran
+++++ (No, it wasn't me <grin>)


Did you ever go and spend whole Saturday afternoons at the comic book store
just hanging out and looking at the new modules that were out and fingering
all of the dice just LOOKING for that special one to spend your 50 cents
(or maybe a dollar if it was REAL fancy) on? If you were lucky they might
even have had a game going in the back room. (Geez, sounds like a pool hall
with an illegal poker game going.)
Caitlin

Edward Franks

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My glass typewriter shows Strother saying...
> >> >> Ech, you people are mere whelps. I was playing Akalabeth on a slide rule
> >> >> in 1969 on my way to Woodstock.
> >> >
> >> > Don't forget the graph paper. <grin>
> >> >
> >> Ooooooo! Now THAT'S the way I LIKE it! Talk graph paper to me, baby!
> >
> > Pencils. Rule books. Late night pizza. <grin>
> >
>
> .....Now, don't go forgetting the dice ...
>

Oh yes. The dice. Did you ever have a person in your groups

that rattled their dice in their hands for about a minute before

actually rolling them on the table?

Or someone who believed their dice were 'lucky' and wouldn't let
you touch their dice?

Of course there was the one guy who got pissed and threw a

twenty-sided *through* the carbon DM's screen...

Fortran


(No, it wasn't me <grin>)

--

Michael Cecil

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On Tue, 15 Apr 1997 22:29:49 -0500, xy...@ponyexpress.net (Edward
Franks) wrote:
>> >
>> > Don't forget the graph paper. <grin>
>> >
>> Ooooooo! Now THAT'S the way I LIKE it! Talk graph paper to me, baby!
>
> Pencils. Rule books. Late night pizza. <grin>
>
>Fortran

>
That reminds me of the older computer games. Does anyone remember
mapping out the Deathtraps in the dungeons of Bard's Tale 2? Geez...I
haven't mapped out a game by hand in a couple of years at least.

Michael Cecil
mce...@cyberramp.net
The Polychromic Dragon of the -=[UDIC]=-

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Strother <jls...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in article

<33545cc7...@nntp.ix.netcom.com>...

> >> >> Ech, you people are mere whelps. I was playing Akalabeth on a
slide rule
> >> >> in 1969 on my way to Woodstock.
> >> >

> >> > Don't forget the graph paper. <grin>
> >> >
> >> Ooooooo! Now THAT'S the way I LIKE it! Talk graph paper to me, baby!
> >
> > Pencils. Rule books. Late night pizza. <grin>
> >
> >Fortran
> >
>

> .....Now, don't go forgetting the dice ...
>

> Louise
Or the little Crown Royal bag you kept them in. Or the flourescent yellow
highliters.
(Gee we were worse then little old ladies with Bingo bags :) Caitlin gets
out her old D&D notebook and lovingly turns the pages looking at all the
old maps and notes and characters from past campaigns. So many memories!
Did you ever RPG on the fly? Like on long car trips with no dice or paper
or ANYTHING? We did.
Caitlin


Michael Cecil

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On Wed, 16 Apr 1997 02:16:21 -0500, xy...@ponyexpress.net (Edward
Franks) wrote:
> Oh yes. The dice. Did you ever have a person in your groups
>that rattled their dice in their hands for about a minute before
>actually rolling them on the table?
>
> Or someone who believed their dice were 'lucky' and wouldn't let
>you touch their dice?
>
> Of course there was the one guy who got pissed and threw a
>twenty-sided *through* the carbon DM's screen...
>
>Fortran
>(No, it wasn't me <grin>)
>

No, but I had a 100-sided die that was too spherical and kept rolling
forever and had a penchant for rolling off the table and across the
room at the most crucial times.

ES Grey

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> On Tue, 15 Apr 1997 22:35:51 -0500, xy...@ponyexpress.net (Edward Franks)
> wrote:
>
> >My glass typewriter shows Paul Counts saying...
> >> > On the other hand, Greybearddom does seem to violate the
> >> > principles of UDIC in that it creates a set of haves and have-nots.
> >>
> >> Ah, but the Greybeard ribbon is not 'Official'. And no one takes it
> >> seriously anyway... <chuckle>
> >
> > <chuckle> Neither do I, but have you noticed the effect that
> >these awards and lists have on people? Quite interesting in a group
> >that is generally determinedly anarchaic.
> >
> > I first noticed this in private emails concerning 'Phids Dragon
> >Directory. Several people told me that they wanted to be on the list.
> >Notice how 'Phid's most posts list affected some Dragons.
> >
> > In a group that has a very high quotient of intelligent people
> >I'm surprised these thing matter so much. I don't know whether people
> >want the praise or if they have some deep-seated need to know where
> >they stand in some ranking. What do all of you Dragons think?
>

I never 'tried' to be on the list, although I did think it would be nice,
as a newbie, to have my name in lights. As for the Greybeards, fine for
them, but to hell with them too-- I never was a joiner. In fact, I was
considering having a big fancy sig, but the only group I belong to is
the UDIC. Well, besides being an American.

If someone wanted me to be a Greybeard someday, fine, if not, better.

Kaleb Dragon
-==(UDIC)==-

DLE

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ES Grey

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On Tue, 15 Apr 1997, Edward Franks wrote:

> My glass typewriter shows Strother saying...
> > On Tue, 15 Apr 1997 18:39:53 -0500, xy...@ponyexpress.net (Edward
> > Franks) wrote:
> >
> > >My glass typewriter shows Michael Carmack saying...


> > >
> > > Don't forget the graph paper. <grin>
> > >
> > Ooooooo! Now THAT'S the way I LIKE it! Talk graph paper to me, baby!
>
> Pencils. Rule books. Late night pizza. <grin>
>
> Fortran
>

Late night pizza, hell, how many times was it ALL night pizza? I've only
played half of all the Ultimas, and I've been up all night, oh, I don't
know, maybe, two or three weeks, all totalled because of Ultima.

Kaleb Dragon
-==(UDIC)==-


ES Grey

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On Wed, 16 Apr 1997, ES Grey wrote:

> > > > Don't forget the graph paper. <grin>
> > > >
> > > Ooooooo! Now THAT'S the way I LIKE it! Talk graph paper to me, baby!
> >
> > Pencils. Rule books. Late night pizza. <grin>
> >
> > Fortran
> >
>
> Late night pizza, hell, how many times was it ALL night pizza? I've only
> played half of all the Ultimas, and I've been up all night, oh, I don't
> know, maybe, two or three weeks, all totalled because of Ultima.
>
> Kaleb Dragon
> -==(UDIC)==-

WWHHOOOOOSHHH! The fact that you were referring to REAL RPG's flew right
over my stupid head, my bad. I'm a proven idiot, don't let anyone disuade
you. :)

kaleb dragon
|udic|

Michael Carmack

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Edward Franks (xy...@ponyexpress.net) wrote:
: In a group that has a very high quotient of intelligent people
: I'm surprised these thing matter so much. I don't know whether people
: want the praise or if they have some deep-seated need to know where
: they stand in some ranking. What do all of you Dragons think?

For some people (myself included), the need to stand out is important.
Being just a face in the crowd is rather unappealing. Perhaps in a
generally faceless forum such as this, concepts like Greybeards, lists,
Dragon Directories, UDIC entrance tests, etc. all provide that method for
standing out.

Ugh...it's too early in the morning for me to be thinking. Somebody ask
me a programming question so I can turn my brain back off.

sky...@imap2.asu.edu

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On Tue, 15 Apr 1997, Edward Franks wrote:

> In a group that has a very high quotient of intelligent people
> I'm surprised these thing matter so much. I don't know whether people
> want the praise or if they have some deep-seated need to know where
> they stand in some ranking. What do all of you Dragons think?

I think it leads us to that age old Virtue debate:

A person puts out a lists of top posters, and you notice that your name
has been excluded even though you are sure you belong on there do you:

a) Honesty step forward and make the currection

or

b) Humbly stand back and let others take the credit.

It seems many dragons choose "A" in this case and we'll probalbe never
know which ones, if any, picked "B" . If they picked "B" they don't
care if we know or not anyway.

Origin-al Dragon
Lord Denin(In Britannia)

-A Protector of Virtue
and Lord British-(PVLB)

chrisk

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sky...@imap2.asu.edu wrote:
>
> On Tue, 15 Apr 1997, Edward Franks wrote:
>
> > In a group that has a very high quotient of intelligent people
> > I'm surprised these thing matter so much. I don't know whether people
> > want the praise or if they have some deep-seated need to know where
> > they stand in some ranking. What do all of you Dragons think?
>
> I think it leads us to that age old Virtue debate:
>
> A person puts out a lists of top posters, and you notice that your name
> has been excluded even though you are sure you belong on there do you:
>
> a) Honesty step forward and make the currection
>
> or
>
> b) Humbly stand back and let others take the credit.
>
> It seems many dragons choose "A" in this case and we'll probalbe never
> know which ones, if any, picked "B" . If they picked "B" they don't
> care if we know or not anyway.

hey, being the best there is you want to know people about the fact that
you ARE the best there is (except if you're the best there is at
humility) (and i'm definitely not him). it's in the genes.

--
Christopher Koppler
University of Art and
Industrial Design, Linz
--------------------------
Granny Weatherwax's Dragon
-==(UDIC)==-

GSkip

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In <5j2ggv$e...@login.freenet.columbus.oh.us> mcar...@freenet.columbus.oh.us

(Michael Carmack) writes:
>
>For some people (myself included), the need to stand out is important.
>Being just a face in the crowd is rather unappealing. Perhaps in a
>generally faceless forum such as this, concepts like Greybeards, lists,
>Dragon Directories, UDIC entrance tests, etc. all provide that method for
>standing out.

Thats an incredibly honest answer - but to me lists are just that. Names on a
list mean nothing. What a person says, their humor, whatever are the
things that stand out in my mind. Plus I am not thrilled woth
competitiveness - so number one on the list is always suspect to me.

Honestly, Exanter, it is what you say that makes you stand out from
the crowd.

Mdme Disoriented (who was called Psuedo for the longest time)
-==(UDIC)==-
***(IWTFF)***


chrisk

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it should have been:
> hey, being the best there is you want to LET people KNOW about the fact that

> you ARE the best there is (except if you're the best there is at
> humility) (and i'm definitely not him). it's in the genes.
i'm not the best there is at writing grammatically and semantically
correct when in a hurry ;-)

chrisk

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Most Violent Dragon wrote:
>
>
> > Fortran

> >
> > --
> >
> > -=={MDLAM}==- | Garbage In,
> > NRA Endowment Member | Gospel Out
>
> New sig.??? Where did Microsoft go today??? <g>
>

hmm... maybe microsoft went down the drain. finally. <bg>
or maybe fortran just realized that advertising to be a microsoft cert.
prod. spec. isn't THAT good an idea here (what with all those problems
with u7 and win95...)

Most Violent Dragon

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Edward Franks wrote:

> I first noticed this in private emails concerning 'Phids Dragon
> Directory. Several people told me that they wanted to be on the list.
> Notice how 'Phid's most posts list affected some Dragons.

I remember a special person who wanted to be removed from that list.
And it wasn`t me, because I wasn`t on it. But I didn't care.
If I am on a list, that`s OK unless it`s called Most Mindless
Dragon-Names.
If I am not on a list, that`s OK, too, unless it`s called Most Violent
Dragons!

> Fortran
>
> --
>
> -=={MDLAM}==- | Garbage In,
> NRA Endowment Member | Gospel Out

New sig.??? Where did Microsoft go today??? <g>

Greetings
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| \/ | \ \ / / | \ --=(UDIC)=--
| |\/| | \ V / | |) | Tomas Neumann
|_| |_|ost \_/iolent|___/ragon T.Ne...@tu-bs.de
http://land.geod.bau.tu-bs.de:8080/~Neumann/index.html

Edward Franks

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My glass typewriter shows Strother saying...
> Ohhh! And you probably studied programming from Grace Murray Hopper,
> too! Well, I admit that I didn't attend Woodstock, but my DH did (for
> real, man).
>

I was at one of her talks and I still have one of her
nanoseconds. Does that count? <grin>

Mark Maurer

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GSkip (gs...@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
: In <5j2s3o$d...@pacemaker.cts> mwma...@mtu.edu (Mark Maurer) writes:
:
:
: >: Honestly, Exanter, it is what you say that makes you stand out
: >:from the crowd.
: >
: >Exsqueeeeze me here, Dis, but I ain't in the conversation....:) I
: >believe that you would be talking to Vulcan....:) (OTOH, Dis is
: >acting like her old self....*grin*)
:
: Mmmhmmm. I forgot the little smiley face. And the comment beside my
: sig.?
:
: Mdme Disoriented
: -==(UDIC)==-
: ***(IWTFF)***

Ahh, now I be really confused.....
--
Mark Maurer mwma...@mtu.edu mwma...@colossus.csl.mtu.edu
Undergraduate, Computer Science Michigan Technological University
Exanter Dragon ---==[UDIC]==--- http://www.csl.mtu.edu/~mwmaurer
"You can use it to send email, even over the internet!" -- AOL commercial.

Mark Maurer

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GSkip (gs...@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
: In <5j2ggv$e...@login.freenet.columbus.oh.us> mcar...@freenet.columbus.oh.us

: (Michael Carmack) writes:
: >
: >For some people (myself included), the need to stand out is important.
: >Being just a face in the crowd is rather unappealing. Perhaps in a
: >generally faceless forum such as this, concepts like Greybeards, lists,
: >Dragon Directories, UDIC entrance tests, etc. all provide that method for
: >standing out.
:
: Thats an incredibly honest answer - but to me lists are just that. Names on a
: list mean nothing. What a person says, their humor, whatever are the
: things that stand out in my mind. Plus I am not thrilled woth
: competitiveness - so number one on the list is always suspect to me.
:
: Honestly, Exanter, it is what you say that makes you stand out from
: the crowd.

Exsqueeeeze me here, Dis, but I ain't in the conversation....:) I believe
that you would be talking to Vulcan....:) (OTOH, Dis is acting like her old
self....*grin*)

Erinn

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DLE <the...@swbell.net> wrote in article
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Ahhh, the memories:) How 'bout the excitement of starting a new character
and searching through the miniatures for the perfect figure? I'd spend
hours going through all those blister packs. Then to paint it! What
colors does my character favour and why the heck to all the female figures
have size double F boobs (not to mention armour unsuitable for even a
Sunday picnic)!?!

--
Erinnyes Dragon -==(UDIC)==- If I can't screw it up,
System Trashing Specialist *no* one can!
http://fly.HiWAAY.net/~ssweargn/

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On Wed, 16 Apr 1997 10:11:23 GMT, mce...@cyberramp.net (Michael Cecil)
wrote:

>>
>No, but I had a 100-sided die that was too spherical and kept rolling
>forever and had a penchant for rolling off the table and across the
>room at the most crucial times.
>

Oh, Yes! That's why we sometimes went with 2 50's (or a 10 and
multiplied, but that wasn't always fair enough, so we'd go 2 tosses
and pick the best) Just about anything to avoid that 100!

Louise Dragon

GSkip

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In <5j2s3o$d...@pacemaker.cts> mwma...@mtu.edu (Mark Maurer) writes:


>: Thats an incredibly honest answer - but to me lists are just that.
Names on a
>: list mean nothing. What a person says, their humor, whatever are the
>: things that stand out in my mind. Plus I am not thrilled woth
>: competitiveness - so number one on the list is always suspect to me

>: Honestly, Exanter, it is what you say that makes you stand out
>:from the crowd.
>
>Exsqueeeeze me here, Dis, but I ain't in the conversation....:) I
>believe that you would be talking to Vulcan....:) (OTOH, Dis is
>acting like her old self....*grin*)

Mmmhmmm. I forgot the little smiley face. And the comment beside my
sig.?

Mdme Disoriented
-==(UDIC)==-
***(IWTFF)***

>--


Edward Franks

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My glass typewriter shows Erinn saying...

> Ahhh, the memories:) How 'bout the excitement of starting a new character
> and searching through the miniatures for the perfect figure? I'd spend
> hours going through all those blister packs. Then to paint it! What
> colors does my character favour and why the heck to all the female figures
> have size double F boobs (not to mention armour unsuitable for even a
> Sunday picnic)!?!

Phil and Dixie!

Edward Franks

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My glass typewriter shows Most Violent Dragon saying...

>
> Edward Franks wrote:
>
> > I first noticed this in private emails concerning 'Phids Dragon
> > Directory. Several people told me that they wanted to be on the list.
> > Notice how 'Phid's most posts list affected some Dragons.
> I remember a special person who wanted to be removed from that list.
> And it wasn`t me, because I wasn`t on it. But I didn't care.

Yes, F-15 did want to be removed. I also asked to be removed
since 'Phid wasn't willing to honor removal requests. I felt the
principle was important. (Again, I thank all those who liked me
enough to nominate me. I hope you understood the whys of my reason.)

> If I am on a list, that`s OK unless it`s called Most Mindless
> Dragon-Names.
> If I am not on a list, that`s OK, too, unless it`s called Most Violent
> Dragons!

[Snip]


> New sig.??? Where did Microsoft go today??? <g>

Variety is the spice of life. I'm trying out a simple sig for
now.
Don't worry, Microsoft will be back <grin>. After Whisper's
inept minions tried to attack my sig all the feature therein will be
around in one form or another.

Edward Franks

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My glass typewriter shows chrisk saying...

> hmm... maybe microsoft went down the drain. finally. <bg>
> or maybe fortran just realized that advertising to be a microsoft cert.
> prod. spec. isn't THAT good an idea here (what with all those problems
> with u7 and win95...)

Maybe Fortran likes to change his sig now and then. A little
variety is nice.

By the way, the problems with U7 aren't Microsoft's fault. They
are Origin's fault for rolling their own memory manager. You can't
run any memory manager (even under DOS 6.22 and below) and U7.

Fortran

Mark Maurer

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Mark Maurer (mwma...@mtu.edu) wrote:
: GSkip (gs...@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
: : In <5j2s3o$d...@pacemaker.cts> mwma...@mtu.edu (Mark Maurer) writes:
: :
: : >: Honestly, Exanter, it is what you say that makes you stand out

: : >:from the crowd.
: : >
: : >Exsqueeeeze me here, Dis, but I ain't in the conversation....:) I
: : >believe that you would be talking to Vulcan....:) (OTOH, Dis is
: : >acting like her old self....*grin*)
: :
: : Mmmhmmm. I forgot the little smiley face. And the comment beside my
: : sig.?
: :
: : Mdme Disoriented
: : -==(UDIC)==-
: : ***(IWTFF)***
:
: Ahh, now I be really confused.....

Never mind. I responded to that post 10 minutes after I dragged my tail out
of bed...still a little hazy. I now get what you were driving at. But yeah,
a smiley would have helped...;) (might have cut through the morning fog...)

Edward Franks

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My glass typewriter shows Michael Cecil saying...

> No, but I had a 100-sided die that was too spherical and kept rolling
> forever and had a penchant for rolling off the table and across the
> room at the most crucial times.

Cool! I have one of those. They are fun to play with, but are
too slow for actual use. I also like the fact that some real math had
to go into making them.

ES Grey

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On Wed, 16 Apr 1997, Edward Franks wrote:

> My glass typewriter shows Strother saying...

> > >> >> Ech, you people are mere whelps. I was playing Akalabeth on a slide rule
> > >> >> in 1969 on my way to Woodstock.
> > >> >

> > >> > Don't forget the graph paper. <grin>
> > >> >

> > >> Ooooooo! Now THAT'S the way I LIKE it! Talk graph paper to me, baby!
> > >

> > > Pencils. Rule books. Late night pizza. <grin>
> > >
> >

> > .....Now, don't go forgetting the dice ...
> >
>

> Oh yes. The dice. Did you ever have a person in your groups

> that rattled their dice in their hands for about a minute before

> actually rolling them on the table?
>

> Or someone who believed their dice were 'lucky' and wouldn't let

> you touch their dice?


>
> Of course there was the one guy who got pissed and threw a

> twenty-sided *through* the carbon DM's screen...
>

> Fortran


> (No, it wasn't me <grin>)
>

> --
>
> -=={MDLAM}==- | Garbage In,
> NRA Endowment Member | Gospel Out
>
>
>


I always thought it was fun to play outside. Anyone else?

(except that wind!)

!! HEY! is this a person with a black eye?: !(

kaleb dragon
-==(UDIC)==-


GSkip

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In <5j3031$1...@pacemaker.cts> mwma...@mtu.edu (Mark Maurer) writes:
>Ahh, now I be really confused.....
>
>Never mind. I responded to that post 10 minutes after I dragged my
>tail out of bed...still a little hazy. I now get what you were
>driving at. But yeah, a smiley would have helped...;) (might have cut
>through the morning fog...)

And I haven't even heard from Vulcan yet. :) No wonder I get on
lists!

Mdme Disoriented
-==(UDIC)==-
***(IWTFF)***


GSkip

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In <01bc4a6d$d5c54fe0$LocalHost@dominiks> "SilverSurfer Dragon"
<dsm...@metronet.de> writes:

>
>What does Greybearddom mean anyway?

>------->SilverSurfer Dragon

You know, there IS something else you can do beside posting to this
newsgroup. Its reading the other posts.

Disoriented Dragon
-==(UDIC)==-
***(IWTFF)****

Strother

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On 16 Apr 1997 16:00:18 GMT, "Erinn" <sswe...@HiWAAY.net> wrote:

>Ahhh, the memories:) How 'bout the excitement of starting a new character
>and searching through the miniatures for the perfect figure? I'd spend
>hours going through all those blister packs. Then to paint it! What
>colors does my character favour and why the heck to all the female figures
>have size double F boobs (not to mention armour unsuitable for even a
>Sunday picnic)!?!
>

>--
Oh NO!! Now you've done it! I've got to go out to the garage and find
that box with all my painted figures! Haven't touched that in years!
Ahhh. We need a year of a good ol' D&D game! Yep, we still have
everything, including acrylic sheets with embedded hex. Somewhere.
In the garage.....

Louise Dragon

Strother

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On 16 Apr 1997 08:21:16 GMT, "DLE" <the...@swbell.net> wrote:

>Did you ever go and spend whole Saturday afternoons at the comic book store
>just hanging out and looking at the new modules that were out and fingering
>all of the dice just LOOKING for that special one to spend your 50 cents
>(or maybe a dollar if it was REAL fancy) on? If you were lucky they might
>even have had a game going in the back room. (Geez, sounds like a pool hall
>with an illegal poker game going.)

>Caitlin

... <sigh>... yes, those were the good old days. Long weekends, smelly
smoky rooms, empty Coke cans and empty pizza boxes (when you were
close enough to the fat side of payday), trying to get your flippin'
theif out of the hands of the Spider King... <sigh>

Louise Dragon

Strother

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On 16 Apr 1997 08:10:15 GMT, "DLE" <the...@swbell.net> wrote:

>
>
>Strother <jls...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in article
><33545cc7...@nntp.ix.netcom.com>...


>
>>
>> .....Now, don't go forgetting the dice ...
>>

>> Louise
>Or the little Crown Royal bag you kept them in. Or the flourescent yellow
>highliters.
>(Gee we were worse then little old ladies with Bingo bags :) Caitlin gets
>out her old D&D notebook and lovingly turns the pages looking at all the
>old maps and notes and characters from past campaigns. So many memories!
>Did you ever RPG on the fly? Like on long car trips with no dice or paper
>or ANYTHING? We did.
> Caitlin
>

You bet! Let's see, if the next hill reveals an odd number of cars
coming our direction then the answer is.....
Louise

Strother

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On Wed, 16 Apr 1997 11:50:45 -0500, xy...@ponyexpress.net (Edward
Franks) wrote:

>My glass typewriter shows Strother saying...

>> Ohhh! And you probably studied programming from Grace Murray Hopper,
>> too! Well, I admit that I didn't attend Woodstock, but my DH did (for
>> real, man).
>>
>
> I was at one of her talks and I still have one of her
>nanoseconds. Does that count? <grin>
>
>Fortran
>

Well, *I'M* impressed. Most people wouldn't know who the heck I was
talking about. Yes, I have a nanosecond too. Somewhere in a box in
the garage. Same box with a program drawer (heavy sucker) with the
hardcoded wires for a Medical AR system patient account listing.
Should we go on to talk 'tubes'? I started on a Univac 9200, all tube
machine with 4k! It couldn't run Fortran - didn't have a compiler
card box for it. Just good ol' BAL (Assembler). No screens, either.

But, enough of who's older or started first (well, I owe you one last
volley). Still, I am impressed that you know Captain Hopper (well,
she was a Captain when I met her, I know she got several promotions
afterwards).

Louise Dragon


Gazza

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On Tue, 15 Apr 1997, Edward Franks wrote:

> <chuckle> Neither do I, but have you noticed the effect that
> these awards and lists have on people? Quite interesting in a group
> that is generally determinedly anarchaic.


>
> I first noticed this in private emails concerning 'Phids Dragon
> Directory. Several people told me that they wanted to be on the list.
> Notice how 'Phid's most posts list affected some Dragons.
>

> In a group that has a very high quotient of intelligent people
> I'm surprised these thing matter so much. I don't know whether people
> want the praise or if they have some deep-seated need to know where
> they stand in some ranking. What do all of you Dragons think?

I think the latter may be more correct. Many people get a simple *thrill*
out of seeing their name posted for others to see. In a group this large,
it can also provide one with a sense of, shall we say, false arrogance. I
know this to be true because it is how I *almost* felt on the matter. When
I first saw the highest post list, I thought it would be a sign of my
activeness in the group and a way of gaining some semblance of respect,
especially for a dragon who's fairly new to the group, to appear on the
list. However, I began to read the posts that followed about being on the
list and witnessed people write completely stupid things in attempt to be
on the list and I have to put up with having 400 posts each day I check
now. That changed my mind a bit. I've gone from being a giddy wannabe
heavy poster to an old disgruntled fire-breather who oftentimes sees it
almost a chore to read this newsgroup. But alas, I do enjoy it and
continue to read and post, and someday I may make a list, however
meaningless that fact is, but I certainly think something as simple as a
most frequent poster list is nothing to jump up and down and do flips
over. I guess Ultima fans need something to hold them over til U9 or UO
(whichever comes first, if at all >:() and being on this list provides
them with a goal. Ah well. I've said my piece...

Gazza Dragon
-==(UDIC)==-


Edward Franks

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My glass typewriter shows ES Grey saying...


> On Wed, 16 Apr 1997, ES Grey wrote:
>
> > > > > Don't forget the graph paper. <grin>
> > > > >
> > > > Ooooooo! Now THAT'S the way I LIKE it! Talk graph paper to me, baby!
> > >
> > > Pencils. Rule books. Late night pizza. <grin>
> > >

> > > Fortran
> > >
> >
> > Late night pizza, hell, how many times was it ALL night pizza? I've only
> > played half of all the Ultimas, and I've been up all night, oh, I don't
> > know, maybe, two or three weeks, all totalled because of Ultima.
> >
> > Kaleb Dragon
> > -==(UDIC)==-
>
> WWHHOOOOOSHHH! The fact that you were referring to REAL RPG's flew right
> over my stupid head, my bad. I'm a proven idiot, don't let anyone disuade
> you. :)
>

<chuckle> That's ok. It is the spirit that counts...

Fortran

SilverSurfer Dragon

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Daermonestroer Dragon <min...@ix.netcom.com> schrieb im Beitrag
<33545d34...@nntp.ix.netcom.com>...


> <Daer points out that he not once attempted to participate in the
posting-
> quantity race, nor has he ever inquired into greybearddom -- he is
probably
> not grumpy enough for that, anyway>

What does Greybearddom mean anyway?


------->SilverSurfer Dragon
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/"One Ring to rule them all"\
/ "One Ring to find them" \
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Robert Kennedy

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> Ahhh, the memories:) How 'bout the excitement of starting a new character
> and searching through the miniatures for the perfect figure? I'd spend
> hours going through all those blister packs. Then to paint it! What
> colors does my character favour and why the heck to all the female figures
> have size double F boobs (not to mention armour unsuitable for even a
> Sunday picnic)!?!

I never did play D&D when I was growing up (wanted to but there was not
any one else that did too), but I do paint the figures. You can still
buy the fugures though. The best company I think is Ral Partha.
They've got actually sculptured pieces along with the gaming figures.
Their address is: http://www.ralpartha.com/ if anyone is interested.

Robert Kennedy

Christopher A. Tew

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On 15 Apr 1997 21:02:17 -0400, mcar...@freenet.columbus.oh.us
(Michael Carmack) wrote:

>Mark Maurer (mwma...@mtu.edu) wrote:
>: Michael Carmack (mcar...@freenet.columbus.oh.us) wrote:
>
>: : Ech, you people are mere whelps. I was playing Akalabeth on a slide rule


>: : in 1969 on my way to Woodstock.
>

>: Hehehe....From the age you have given in previous posts, you didn't even know
>: what the hell Woodstock was....*grin*
>
>Actually I was born almost four months before the Woodstock. I *did* make
>it to Woodstock '94, but of course I forgot my darn slide-rule version of
>Akalabeth! (There was no room anyway...too much beer in the van.)

The original Woodstock was all about peace, and the sequel should've
been, but when the Reznor unit started to scream, "I want to fuck you
like an animal," the whole peace vibe was just destroyed. Also, when
that dud got up on the stage to warn us about the "Bad Latte," we all
knew that it was all too damn 90s... ;-)

TDFKAA


*
Ain't it dead yet?
*

Clayton Russell Hollowell

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<5j18ep$s...@login.freenet.columbus.oh.us> <3359488e...@news.primenet.com>
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology
Distribution:

Gary McHugh (gmc...@primenet.com) wrote:
: mcar...@freenet.columbus.oh.us (Michael Carmack) wrote:

: >Mark Maurer (mwma...@mtu.edu) wrote:
: >: Michael Carmack (mcar...@freenet.columbus.oh.us) wrote:
: >
>: : Ech, you people are mere whelps. I was playing Akalabeth on a slide rule
: >: : in 1969 on my way to Woodstock.
: >
:> Hehehe....From the age you have given in previous posts, you didn't even know
: >: what the hell Woodstock was....*grin*
: >
: >Actually I was born almost four months before the Woodstock. I *did* make
: >it to Woodstock '94, but of course I forgot my darn slide-rule version of
: >Akalabeth! (There was no room anyway...too much beer in the van.)

: Woodstock? !Beer!?

Mmmm, beer... HICK!

--
Clayton Hollowell
gt2...@prism.gatech.edu
Tanatalus


Paul Counts

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Edward Franks <xy...@ponyexpress.net> wrote:
> In a group that has a very high quotient of intelligent people
> I'm surprised these thing matter so much. I don't know whether people
> want the praise or if they have some deep-seated need to know where
> they stand in some ranking. What do all of you Dragons think?

I think that in any society structures will develop. Even in an anarchy.
It is just human nature. People tend to draw lines around themselves to
define who they are. These lines include some others people, and exclude
others. Look at the whole active v inactive debate.
Early on in the club there was a *P v non*P division. For a while,
there was an agud v rgcu-d dichotomy. There was quite a furor over the
relative merits of the MOO v IRC.
The longer an institution exists, the more structure will infiltrate it.
As long as the structure remains grass-roots (does not become Officially
Recognized), I don't see a problem with it.

~Geo

Edward Franks

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My glass typewriter shows Strother saying...
[Snip]

> Well, *I'M* impressed. Most people wouldn't know who the heck I was
> talking about. Yes, I have a nanosecond too. Somewhere in a box in
> the garage. Same box with a program drawer (heavy sucker) with the
> hardcoded wires for a Medical AR system patient account listing.
> Should we go on to talk 'tubes'? I started on a Univac 9200, all tube
> machine with 4k! It couldn't run Fortran - didn't have a compiler
> card box for it. Just good ol' BAL (Assembler). No screens, either.

Core memory. (Real ferrite core memory, not that Trek crap.)
Magnetic drums. Hardwired (literally) programs. Of course that was
all before my time. <chuckle>

I was lucky. My university had thrown out all of its IBM
mainframe crap and had invested in good DEC PDPs and Vaxen.

BAL. EBCDIC. JCL. Yuck. I can remember doing that by RJE to
an Amdahl at MU running some sort of 370 VM (MVS?) emulator.



> But, enough of who's older or started first (well, I owe you one last
> volley). Still, I am impressed that you know Captain Hopper (well,
> she was a Captain when I met her, I know she got several promotions
> afterwards).

She retired a Rear Admiral (for a day anyway), I believe.

Edward Franks

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My glass typewriter shows DLE saying...
[Snip]

> Did you ever go and spend whole Saturday afternoons at the comic book store
> just hanging out and looking at the new modules that were out and fingering
> all of the dice just LOOKING for that special one to spend your 50 cents
> (or maybe a dollar if it was REAL fancy) on? If you were lucky they might
> even have had a game going in the back room. (Geez, sounds like a pool hall
> with an illegal poker game going.)

I still have the first two dice I ever bought. <grin> They are
a pair of ten-siders. One is a red crystal die and the other one a
clear crystal die.

Does anyone else still put their dice in an old black calculator
carrying case?

Edward Franks

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My glass typewriter shows DLE saying...
> Or the little Crown Royal bag you kept them in. Or the flourescent yellow
> highliters.

Yep. Though I used a Texas Instruments calculator bag. I also
had my mom make me up some crimson velvet bags.

> (Gee we were worse then little old ladies with Bingo bags :) Caitlin gets
> out her old D&D notebook and lovingly turns the pages looking at all the
> old maps and notes and characters from past campaigns. So many memories!
> Did you ever RPG on the fly? Like on long car trips with no dice or paper
> or ANYTHING? We did.

Did you ever sit around and use the Random Dungeon tables and
adventure that way? We'd split up the chores (and alternated them
every so often) and just went dungeon crawling. That was great during
the Christmas break at the university. Enough critical people had
went home that we couldn't play in our regular campaigns, but we still
managed to have fun.

Edward Franks

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My glass typewriter shows Mark Maurer saying...
> GSkip (gs...@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
> : In <5j2ggv$e...@login.freenet.columbus.oh.us> mcar...@freenet.columbus.oh.us
> : (Michael Carmack) writes:
> : >
> : >For some people (myself included), the need to stand out is important.
> : >Being just a face in the crowd is rather unappealing. Perhaps in a
> : >generally faceless forum such as this, concepts like Greybeards, lists,
> : >Dragon Directories, UDIC entrance tests, etc. all provide that method for
> : >standing out.
> :
> : Thats an incredibly honest answer - but to me lists are just that. Names on a
> : list mean nothing. What a person says, their humor, whatever are the
> : things that stand out in my mind. Plus I am not thrilled woth
> : competitiveness - so number one on the list is always suspect to me.

> :
> : Honestly, Exanter, it is what you say that makes you stand out from
> : the crowd.
>
> Exsqueeeeze me here, Dis, but I ain't in the conversation....:) I believe
> that you would be talking to Vulcan....:) (OTOH, Dis is acting like her old
> self....*grin*)

Or perhaps she's making a subtle point about lists and what you
do being more important. Or perhaps not. One never knows what
Disoriented is going to do. <grin>

Gazza

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On Wed, 16 Apr 1997, chrisk wrote:

> sky...@imap2.asu.edu wrote:


> >
> > On Tue, 15 Apr 1997, Edward Franks wrote:
> >
> > > In a group that has a very high quotient of intelligent people
> > > I'm surprised these thing matter so much. I don't know whether people
> > > want the praise or if they have some deep-seated need to know where
> > > they stand in some ranking. What do all of you Dragons think?
> >

> > I think it leads us to that age old Virtue debate:
> >
> > A person puts out a lists of top posters, and you notice that your name
> > has been excluded even though you are sure you belong on there do you:
> >
> > a) Honesty step forward and make the currection
> >
> > or
> >
> > b) Humbly stand back and let others take the credit.
> >
> > It seems many dragons choose "A" in this case and we'll probalbe never
> > know which ones, if any, picked "B" . If they picked "B" they don't
> > care if we know or not anyway.
>
> hey, being the best there is you want to know people about the fact that
> you ARE the best there is (except if you're the best there is at
> humility) (and i'm definitely not him). it's in the genes.

The best at what?

Gazza Dragon
-==(UDIC)==-


bout...@med.wcc.govt.nz

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In article <01bc4a3f$fb6c38e0$d702...@thegang.swbell.net>, "DLE" <the...@swbell.net> writes:
>
>
> Did you ever go and spend whole Saturday afternoons at the comic book store
> just hanging out and looking at the new modules that were out and fingering
> all of the dice just LOOKING for that special one to spend your 50 cents
> (or maybe a dollar if it was REAL fancy) on? If you were lucky they might
> even have had a game going in the back room. (Geez, sounds like a pool hall
> with an illegal poker game going.)

> Caitlin

Or the weird dutch guy, with the cockatoos on his shoulder, who would watch you
with his one beady eye in case you accidentally got a fingerprint on the
shrinkwrap of said module without paying for it first. The sound of someone
saying "Thes es not a labary" still fills me with an unnameable dread.

DragonSpawn
-==[UDIC]==-


bout...@med.wcc.govt.nz

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In article <5itt6m$lu6$2...@news.inficad.com>, Paul Counts <g...@user2.inficad.com> writes:
> What else do you get?
> The official sanction of the UDICGB to grouse about how the club was so
> much better in the 'good old days'. (=
>
> ~Geo
>
> g...@geocities.com http://www.inficad.com/~geo/
> -==(UDIC)==-
> \/
> \/

Of course, if you live in the southern hemisphere, it looks like this:

/\
/\
-==(UDIC)==-

DragonSpawn
-==[UDIC]==-

Andrew Toth

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chrisk <kop...@khsa.khs-linz.ac.at> wrote:

Well that depends on why you put forth the effort to be the best there
is. Was it for the glory, or merely personal satisfaction?

Beyowulf
Beyo...@pipeline.com
Steely Blue Dragon Of The -==UDIC==-
\/
Awarded the HNTC Award For Valor During The Battle Of Hallifax


Lost Dragon

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>and pick the best) Just about anything to avoid that 100!

Hrm. The old "golf ball" die eh? Next time you play with that
beast, get a bowl with a flat bottom. Let people roll it in that.
Works rather well, even if I doth say so mineself.


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Paul Counts

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> My glass typewriter shows Michael Cecil saying...
> > No, but I had a 100-sided die that was too spherical and kept rolling
> > forever and had a penchant for rolling off the table and across the
> > room at the most crucial times.

I bought one of those as well. Of course, it was more for the novelty
than for anything else... How many 30 dice did/do you own?

~Geo

Paul Counts

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SilverSurfer Dragon <dsm...@metronet.de> wrote:
> What does Greybearddom mean anyway?

Well, it depends on how you look at it. (= Officially, absolutely
nothing. Unofficially? Absolutely nothing. <g> In general, it means
that you have been a member for longer than a year. Then, the longer the
beard, the longer the membership. But there isn't any notification system
for when a member qualifies. And there is no censure if someone claims
the ribbon who hasn't been a member of the UDIC for more than a year.

~Geo

Paul Counts

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> Oh NO!! Now you've done it! I've got to go out to the garage and find
> that box with all my painted figures! Haven't touched that in years!

Y'know... I still have a couple of Shadowrun dragons (oriental and
occidental) that I bought years ago and never got around to painting. I
think they are still in the closet at my parents' house where I left most
of my books...

~Geo

Paul Counts

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bout...@med.wcc.govt.nz wrote:
> Of course, if you live in the southern hemisphere, it looks like this:

> /\
> /\
> -==(UDIC)==-

<LOL!> Another priceless gem from the DragonSpawn. I *knew* there was
a reason I look forward to reading his posts. <g>

~Geo

Paul Counts

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Strother <jls...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> You bet! Let's see, if the next hill reveals an odd number of cars
> coming our direction then the answer is.....

How about grabbing staves and swords made from discarded yardsticks and
heading down the street after dark to battle the parked cars that became
trolls, the trees that attacked with dexterous branches, and hopping the
fences into neighbors' yards to avoid the hellhounds that barked all night
long? Oh, you didn't do that? Oh. Did anyone besides me and my friends?
oh.

~Geo <who creeps quietly back into his padded cell> (=

Michael Cecil

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On Wed, 16 Apr 1997 13:26:13 -0500, xy...@ponyexpress.net (Edward
Franks) wrote:

>My glass typewriter shows Michael Cecil saying...
>> No, but I had a 100-sided die that was too spherical and kept rolling
>> forever and had a penchant for rolling off the table and across the
>> room at the most crucial times.
>

> Cool! I have one of those. They are fun to play with, but are
>too slow for actual use. I also like the fact that some real math had
>to go into making them.
>
Yeah, I just brought it out to wow the players into submission. (I
most often GM'd the games I was involved in.)

Michael Cecil
mce...@cyberramp.net
The Polychromic Dragon of the -=[UDIC]=-

devere1

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Paul Counts <g...@user2.inficad.com> wrote in article
<5j40mp$tr$1...@news.inficad.com>...


> SilverSurfer Dragon <dsm...@metronet.de> wrote:
> > What does Greybearddom mean anyway?

>. And there is no censure if someone claims


> the ribbon who hasn't been a member of the UDIC for more than a year.

<Ophidian drops his axe and wanders off, muttering>

-Ophidian Dragon

Michael Cecil

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On Wed, 16 Apr 1997 13:37:59 -0500, xy...@ponyexpress.net (Edward
Franks) wrote:

>My glass typewriter shows chrisk saying...
>> hmm... maybe microsoft went down the drain. finally. <bg>
>> or maybe fortran just realized that advertising to be a microsoft cert.
>> prod. spec. isn't THAT good an idea here (what with all those problems
>> with u7 and win95...)
>
> Maybe Fortran likes to change his sig now and then. A little
>variety is nice.
>
> By the way, the problems with U7 aren't Microsoft's fault. They
>are Origin's fault for rolling their own memory manager. You can't
>run any memory manager (even under DOS 6.22 and below) and U7.
>
>Fortran
>
What's wrong with Voodoo DOS? I run Win97 on top of it just fine.
And the shutdown screen with the Voodoo skull is really nice.
Hmmmn...just gave myself an idea. Where's ScreenThief...

Michael Cecil

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On 17 Apr 1997 02:10:19 GMT, Paul Counts <g...@user2.inficad.com>
wrote:

>> My glass typewriter shows Michael Cecil saying...


>> > No, but I had a 100-sided die that was too spherical and kept rolling
>> > forever and had a penchant for rolling off the table and across the
>> > room at the most crucial times.
>

> I bought one of those as well. Of course, it was more for the novelty
>than for anything else... How many 30 dice did/do you own?
>
>~Geo

Taking the old, rotting leather bag down from the wall I find:
2 4-sided, 8 6-sided, 4 8-sided, 3 10-sided, 1 12-sided, 4 20-sided,
and 1 100-sided die.

No 30-sided ones. Didn't some games come out specifically for that
type? I never could figure out what advantage having 30 sides gave
them.

Lost Dragon

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>fences into neighbors' yards to avoid the hellhounds that barked all night
>long? Oh, you didn't do that? Oh. Did anyone besides me and my friends?

My backyard was a forest. I had an endless supply of "stick" swords
that my cousins and I would use to fight countless mock battles. We
even went so far as to craft armor from some planks of wood (hmm,
wooden armor - only good against wooden swords I guess). We'd run
up and down paths, jumping off of rocks, into gorges, and through
small creeks. Thinking back, I'm surprised none of us were killed :).

Billy D. Cruise

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Christopher A. Tew wrote:

> The original Woodstock was all about peace, and the sequel should've
> been, but when the Reznor unit started to scream, "I want to fuck you
> like an animal," the whole peace vibe was just destroyed. Also, when
> that dud got up on the stage to warn us about the "Bad Latte," we all
> knew that it was all too damn 90s... ;-)

ROFL!!! Yes, it was a dead giveaway that things had
changed when all the people wandering around naked were
more concerned over the quality of their SPF than the
purity of their LSD...and I can't quite fathom what
Country Joe and the Fish would find to sing about
these days...<g>

> *
> Ain't it dead yet?
> *

According to Don Maclean it died quite some time
ago...(sorry, I just had to get one more '60s reference
in there somewhere...now to dig out my old yellow wire
frame glasses that are shaped like hearts and my glittering
red love beads and I'll be ready to scare small children
again...) <g>
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Strother

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On 17 Apr 1997 02:25:02 GMT, Paul Counts <g...@user2.inficad.com>
wrote:

>Strother <jls...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:


>> You bet! Let's see, if the next hill reveals an odd number of cars
>> coming our direction then the answer is.....
>
> How about grabbing staves and swords made from discarded yardsticks and
>heading down the street after dark to battle the parked cars that became
>trolls, the trees that attacked with dexterous branches, and hopping the

>fences into neighbors' yards to avoid the hellhounds that barked all night
>long? Oh, you didn't do that? Oh. Did anyone besides me and my friends?

>oh.
>
>~Geo <who creeps quietly back into his padded cell> (=

No, Geo, it's JUST you.......
<g> sort of....
Louise Dragon

Kender Dragon

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In article <01bc4a3f$fb6c38e0$d702...@thegang.swbell.net>,
the...@swbell.net says...
>
> Edward Franks <xy...@ponyexpress.net> wrote in article
> <MPG.dbe38c0e...@news.ponyexpress.net>...
>
> + Don't forget the graph paper. <grin>
> ++ Ooooooo! Now THAT'S the way I LIKE it! Talk graph paper to me, baby!
> +++ Pencils. Rule books. Late night pizza. <grin>
> ++++.....Now, don't go forgetting the dice ...

> +++++ Oh yes. The dice. Did you ever have a person in your groups
> +++++ that rattled their dice in their hands for about a minute before
> +++++ actually rolling them on the table?

Dave!

> +++++ Or someone who believed their dice were 'lucky' and wouldn't let
> +++++ you touch their dice?

Sam!

> +++++ Of course there was the one guy who got pissed and threw a
> +++++ twenty-sided *through* the carbon DM's screen...

Er, that was me, I'm afraid ...

> Did you ever go and spend whole Saturday afternoons at the comic book store
> just hanging out and looking at the new modules that were out and fingering
> all of the dice just LOOKING for that special one to spend your 50 cents
> (or maybe a dollar if it was REAL fancy) on? If you were lucky they might
> even have had a game going in the back room. (Geez, sounds like a pool hall
> with an illegal poker game going.)

Hell, I STILL do that, but I usually end up walking out with two
supplements, one hardcover, two packages of blank counters, a miniature,
a handful of dice, ten packs of collectible card games, and the latest
Strangers in Paradise ... once a year add a $40 Cerebus phonebook, a
phone card, a TSR calendar and three T-shirts to that!

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Kender Dragon

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In article <33545d34...@nntp.ix.netcom.com>, min...@ix.netcom.com
says...

> On Tue, 15 Apr 1997 22:35:51 -0500, xy...@ponyexpress.net (Edward Franks)
> wrote:

> > <chuckle> Neither do I, but have you noticed the effect that
> >these awards and lists have on people? Quite interesting in a group
> >that is generally determinedly anarchaic.

Oh, it's nothing unusual. I've found that the people who are the most
Chaotic Neutral in outlook are the ones who carry DayTimers and proofread
postcards they send, while many people who are great admirers of Law live
like Oscar Madison.

Of course, I personally am an anarchist AND a slob, but that's besides
the point.

> > In a group that has a very high quotient of intelligent people
> >I'm surprised these thing matter so much. I don't know whether people
> >want the praise or if they have some deep-seated need to know where
> >they stand in some ranking. What do all of you Dragons think?
>

> <Daer points out that he not once attempted to participate in the posting-
> quantity race, nor has he ever inquired into greybearddom -- he is probably
> not grumpy enough for that, anyway>

I'd be interested to know how a reptile can have a beard at all,
especially if said reptile is female. It's also a bit disturbing in its
timing; I found my first gray hair this very week. This is very
frightening for a 21-year-old.

I find the posting-quantity lists on so many groups very distasteful; in
some groups, the ones who post the most have the least to say. Here that
doesn't seem to be the case, but I would say that ... certain specific
threads ... might have influenced that tally slightly.

Now, if the list was for Most Good Jokes, or Most Bad Puns, or Most
Newbie Questions Answered Correctly, then it would definitely be
worthwhile. But who could judge it, if we're all in contention (pun
intended)?

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