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Neat/Stupid/Odd things in U7.5 (and some in U7)

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Sadena Meti

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Dec 15, 1996, 3:00:00 AM12/15/96
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Here are a few things I've found and would like to see if anyone else
has, or things I don't understand and want to see if others do.

1.Stan and Frank(?)
He he he. The two dead automatons in Torrisso's lab. When revived, use
the cheat menu to change their "met" status to yes.

2.The small gong
This thing was in the cat's island cheat room. WTF is is for?!

3.Yellow Rock
This was in one of the chests in the "capital" of moonshade. WFT is IT
for?!

4.Cindy
This is the naked chick near where you go to the mad mage island. she
has a name, and is a "real" npc. yet does not talk or do anything. no
eggs near her either.

5.What's the damage on the Black Sword?
just curious

6.Created silver seed items
When you create items that are unique to the silver seed add on, they
do not disappear like other created items. kewl, no?

7.east and South of Furnace.
Teleport to the coastline east and south of the furnace. There are
eggs there. there is also a teleporter OUT. how do you get IN,
without cheating, and why? there's nothing there. no secrets either,
checked the whole mountain side.

8.Second dungeon on cat island
In the dungeon east of the cheat room there is a stairway leading to
the dream world. here's what you do. go there, get all the awesome
stuff, then give _EVERYTHING_ you have to a companion. then die.
hehehehe

9.Strange items.
What's the point of the:
wand of lifting keys
flaming scepter type thing
magic hair
spectral orb
orb of regeneration (can't find it without cheating)
magic compass (probably no point)
dead baby ("" "")

10. Things NOT to do.
create extra black swords (will crash at key points)
do an alt+4 on the usecode container (you're screwed, forever)

11. In the cheat mode. press `
WTF is this for?

12. f5 in cheat mode.
it says "spell (0-79) 79? there are only 0-71! haven't tried others

13. east of monitor
in the mountain east of monitor, west of furnace, there is a little
cave with a few weak monsters, some stairs, some medium treasure, but
NO way in or out. i checked. no eggs, at all. looks like they made
something and never attached it.

14. house of gold.
he he he. now here is something i think only i know of. but probably
not.
has anyone else ever seen the little shack like structure made of gold
bars? no? well, it's location has something to do with the location
of your friends after they are hit by lightning. go find it yourself.

15.IN u7, altar of humility, by black gate complex.
First, did you ever notice how those two statues that laugh at you are
"GUARDIAN statues?!" second, the scroll talks about setting up the
lenses, and there is usecode around there. i tried messing with the
lenses, tourches, etc. nothing worked. anyone else seen this?

16. Silver seed, riddles
Did you ever notice that the answer to the dragons final riddle should
be 13, not 14! it has to do with you need 5 cloths of same color,
there is a pile with 3 color, how many would you need to grab. it's
4+4+5.

17.books
in the cheat mode, create books/scrolls/signs. go through all the
qualities. you see a bunch that don't every show up in the game. lots
of wierd poetry too.

18.Map of brittania.
the hint book talks about your map of britania being switched with the
bottle of wine. When I started the game, i checked through our bags...
we never had a map of britania.

19.shamino's map
on shamino's map, it says "map 1" or something like that. is there a
map two ever?

20.weapons
Anyone ever found these weapons? they're listed in the hint book, but
i can't find them in the usecode item list nor the game:
worm hammer
zot wand

21.serpent daggers.
these things stack (sometimes). why?!

22.magic goblet.
HS! Never realized what this did. it's food! with the add-on, it's
use full, with the f key. other wise it takes forever, but way cool

23.crematorium
This thing is so fun. it destroys everything, and i mean EVERYTHING.
no exceptions. admittedly, somethings come back (walls, etc) but very
usefull for clearing way. use the hack mover and take the opening and
the lever.

Well that's about it. Hope this cool stuff redems myself for claiming
that other secret that apparently everyone knew about but no one ever
told me about.

Oh, and, where can I find a walkthrough/faq type thing for u7.5? can't
seem to find one anywhere.

Have fun, and thread away like an npc with "Sew" task.

Newly humble,
Sadena "i have too much free time and have basically ripped appart
serpent's isle with the hack mover" Dragon
--
David J. Emiley
djem...@students.wisc.edu
emi...@pop.cs.wisc.edu
dem...@nether.net
http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~emiley/emiley.html
http://www.uwm.edu/~emileysf/strug/strug.htm
"Trans In Ort Lor"


Winkler Devere Bond

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Dec 15, 1996, 3:00:00 AM12/15/96
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In <58vqk9$g...@news.doit.wisc.edu> sad...@nether.net (Sadena Meti)
writes:

>Have fun, and thread away like an npc with "Sew" task.

Here's a story I found out about from one of the programmers of SI:

"In the original design, Batlin's death didn't cause everyone to die.
But when the project fell behind schedule, management had the idea to
kill the people to save development time. But (as you've noticed) we
didn't really save much time, since the conversations had already been
written... (Also, killing everyone turned out to be hard to do.)"


"We were actually close to deadline, in computer game terms (a month
late?). The empty rooms might be used for basements and such. The only
dungeon cut from the game was the Isle of ??? (cats)."

You should try perusing the Gamedat files with a text editor, and read
all the conversations. Some of them never actually happen.....

They don't call me
-Ophidian Dragon
for nothing.

Sadena Meti

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Dec 15, 1996, 3:00:00 AM12/15/96
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In the article this is thread to, Winkler Devere Bond (dev...@ix.netcom.co)
wrote:

>
>In <58vqk9$g...@news.doit.wisc.edu> sad...@nether.net (Sadena Meti)
>writes:

>"We were actually close to deadline, in computer game terms (a month


>late?). The empty rooms might be used for basements and such. The only
>dungeon cut from the game was the Isle of ??? (cats)."

The isle of the cats was claw island i thought
Sadena Dragon


Kenneth Edward Whitten

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Dec 15, 1996, 3:00:00 AM12/15/96
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Sadena Meti wrote:
>
> Here are a few things I've found and would like to see if anyone else
> has, or things I don't understand and want to see if others do.
>
> 3.Yellow Rock
> This was in one of the chests in the "capital" of moonshade. WFT is IT
> for?!

Dunno, but in cheat mode, Item #330, frames 0 thru 7, you get various colored
stones -- in the 8 Virtue colors!

> 6.Created silver seed items
> When you create items that are unique to the silver seed add on, they
> do not disappear like other created items. kewl, no?

What are the Numbers (and frame #s, if applicable) to the Silver Seed Items?

> 8.Second dungeon on cat island
> In the dungeon east of the cheat room there is a stairway leading to
> the dream world. here's what you do. go there, get all the awesome
> stuff, then give _EVERYTHING_ you have to a companion. then die.
> hehehehe

How do you get to it?

> 12. f5 in cheat mode.
> it says "spell (0-79) 79? there are only 0-71! haven't tried others

Hmmmm... a tenth Circle? Now this IS intriguing.

> 13. east of monitor
> in the mountain east of monitor, west of furnace, there is a little
> cave with a few weak monsters, some stairs, some medium treasure, but
> NO way in or out. i checked. no eggs, at all. looks like they made
> something and never attached it.

Where is this cave? The only one I found east of Monitor was the Troll Cave
leading to Furnace.

> 14. house of gold.
> he he he. now here is something i think only i know of. but probably
> not.
> has anyone else ever seen the little shack like structure made of gold
> bars? no? well, it's location has something to do with the location
> of your friends after they are hit by lightning. go find it yourself.

Never heard of it. Where's it at?

> 16. Silver seed, riddles
> Did you ever notice that the answer to the dragons final riddle should
> be 13, not 14! it has to do with you need 5 cloths of same color,
> there is a pile with 3 color, how many would you need to grab. it's
> 4+4+5.

I, too, noticed one of Draxinar's riddles was off, but as it's been awhile
since I've played, I forgot which.

> 17.books
> in the cheat mode, create books/scrolls/signs. go through all the
> qualities. you see a bunch that don't every show up in the game. lots
> of wierd poetry too.

Indeed. Read Frigidazzi's letters to the Avatar (they are somewhere between
200 and 220).

> 18.Map of brittania.
> the hint book talks about your map of britania being switched with the
> bottle of wine. When I started the game, i checked through our bags...
> we never had a map of britania.

I thought that it switched with the torches. (By comparing the two lists, and
using what I knew about where each item went, the only item unaccounted for
was the torches, and the only item i couldn't mach to LB's list was the ice
wine.)

> 20.weapons
> Anyone ever found these weapons? they're listed in the hint book, but
> i can't find them in the usecode item list nor the game:
> worm hammer
> zot wand

The worm hammer is that wooden hammer you use to fight the Worms in the Test
of Purity. Dunno about the 'zot wand'. Then again, i have never heard of it
until now.

> 21.serpent daggers.
> these things stack (sometimes). why?!

No idea. For some reason, they just do.

> Oh, and, where can I find a walkthrough/faq type thing for u7.5? can't
> seem to find one anywhere.

Try http://www.student.uwa.edu.au/student/ayau/u7si/index.htm for
Sagacious Dragon's VERY, VERY GOOD U7SI Walkthru.

> Newly humble, Glad to hear it.

-Lumina Dragon

Sadena Meti

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In article <32B481...@indiana.edu>, on Sun, 15 Dec 1996 17:53:46 -0500,
Kenneth Edward Whitten (kewh...@indiana.edu) wrote:

>
>Sadena Meti wrote:
>> 6.Created silver seed items
>> When you create items that are unique to the silver seed add on, they
>> do not disappear like other created items. kewl, no?
>
>What are the Numbers (and frame #s, if applicable) to the Silver Seed
Items?
Well, I have made this granddaddy of a usecode list by compiling every other
list and going through brute force (btw, don't try frames at random. crash)
Here's some important SI one's
485 key ring
1013 helm o light
996 belt o strength (don't use this though, it messes things up sometimes)
649 frame 12 ring o shall
1001 gloves o quick
990 erinon's axe

>> 13. east of monitor
>> in the mountain east of monitor, west of furnace, there is a little
>> cave with a few weak monsters, some stairs, some medium treasure, but
>> NO way in or out. i checked. no eggs, at all. looks like they made
>> something and never attached it.
>
>Where is this cave? The only one I found east of Monitor was the Troll Cave
>leading to Furnace.

err, it's not a cave. go into etherial mode and walk through the mountain.

Sadena Dragon
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Sadena Meti
sad...@nether.net
"Trans In Ort Lor!"


Kees & David de Hoog

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Dec 20, 1996, 3:00:00 AM12/20/96
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>14. house of gold.
>he he he. now here is something i think only i know of. but probably
>not.
>has anyone else ever seen the little shack like structure made of gold
>bars? no? well, it's location has something to do with the location
>of your friends after they are hit by lightning. go find it yourself.

I have not heard or seen of any gold house. I opersonally do not
belive you and unless ytou give me/us some coardinates I will not
belive you.

David de Hoog
Doogy Dragon

_____________________________________________

kde...@cygnus.uwa.edu.au
Perth WA Australia


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