This is why Dutch hates Canada

[BillB]

Dutch HATES this legal reality, as do all hardcore bigots. He even went so far as to explicitly state he wants to discriminate against Muslims and "prevent the importation of Islam". Dutch belongs either in prison or in a re-education camp.


Preamble to the Canadian Multiculturalism Act:

WHEREAS the Constitution of Canada provides that every individual is equal before and under the law and has the right to the equal protection and benefit of the law without discrimination and that everyone has the freedom of conscience, religion, thought, belief, opinion, expression, peaceful assembly and association and guarantees those rights and freedoms equally to male and female persons;

AND WHEREAS the Constitution of Canada recognizes the importance of preserving and enhancing the multicultural heritage of Canadians;

AND WHEREAS the Constitution of Canada recognizes rights of the aboriginal peoples of Canada;

AND WHEREAS the Constitution of Canada and the Official Languages Act provide that English and French are the official languages of Canada and neither abrogates nor derogates from any rights or privileges acquired or enjoyed with respect to any other language;

AND WHEREAS the Citizenship Act provides that all Canadians, whether by birth or by choice, enjoy equal status, are entitled to the same rights, powers and privileges and are subject to the same obligations, duties and liabilities;

AND WHEREAS the Canadian Human Rights Act provides that every individual should have an equal opportunity with other individuals to make the life that the individual is able and wishes to have, consistent with the duties and obligations of that individual as a member of society, and, in order to secure that opportunity, establishes the Canadian Human Rights Commission to redress any proscribed discrimination, including discrimination on the basis of race, national or ethnic origin or colour;

AND WHEREAS Canada is a party to the International Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Racial Discrimination, which Convention recognizes that all human beings are equal before the law and are entitled to equal protection of the law against any discrimination and against any incitement to discrimination, and to the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights, which Covenant provides that persons belonging to ethnic, religious or linguistic minorities shall not be denied the right to enjoy their own culture, to profess and practise their own religion or to use their own language;

AND WHEREAS the Government of Canada recognizes the diversity of Canadians as regards race, national or ethnic origin, colour and religion as a fundamental characteristic of Canadian society and is committed to a policy of multiculturalism designed to preserve and enhance the multicultural heritage of Canadians while working to achieve the equality of all Canadians in the economic, social, cultural and political life of Canada;

NOW, THEREFORE, Her Majesty, by and with the advice and consent of the Senate and House of Commons of Canada, enacts as follows:


...


3 (1) It is hereby declared to be the policy of the Government of Canada to

(a) recognize and promote the understanding that multiculturalism reflects the cultural and racial diversity of Canadian society and acknowledges the freedom of all members of Canadian society to preserve, enhance and share their cultural heritage;

(b) recognize and promote the understanding that multiculturalism is a fundamental characteristic of the Canadian heritage and identity and that it provides an invaluable resource in the shaping of Canada’s future;

(c) promote the full and equitable participation of individuals and communities of all origins in the continuing evolution and shaping of all aspects of Canadian society and assist them in the elimination of any barrier to that participation;

(d) recognize the existence of communities whose members share a common origin and their historic contribution to Canadian society, and enhance their development;

(e) ensure that all individuals receive equal treatment and equal protection under the law, while respecting and valuing their diversity;

(f) encourage and assist the social, cultural, economic and political institutions of Canada to be both respectful and inclusive of Canada’s multicultural character;

(g) promote the understanding and creativity that arise from the interaction between individuals and communities of different origins;

(h) foster the recognition and appreciation of the diverse cultures of Canadian society and promote the reflection and the evolving expressions of those cultures;

(i) preserve and enhance the use of languages other than English and French, while strengthening the status and use of the official languages of Canada; and

(j) advance multiculturalism throughout Canada in harmony with the national commitment to the official languages of Canada.

[Dutch]

On 2/6/2018 4:52 PM, BillB wrote:
> Preamble to the Canadian Multiculturalism Act:
>
> WHEREAS the Constitution of Canada provides that every individual is equal before and under the law and has the right to the equal protection and benefit of the law without discrimination

That already existed before that was written. It's redundant.

[BillB]

But Canadians felt the need to spell it all out AS LAW for the benefit of bigots like you who like to discriminate on the basis of culture.

For one obvious example, you said you don't want to import Islam (i.e. Muslims) into Canada. That means you want to explicitly discriminate against Muslims, and ignore our many laws promoting human rights and multiculturalism, including our Constitution.

Why do you hate Canadian values? Why do you hate multiculturalism?

Just the way you said Canadians "tolerate" other cultures suggests to me that you think YOUR culture (whatever that may...your culture is certainly nothing like mine) is somehow superior or paramount to all others. It's not, in fact or by law. Get that idiotic idea out of your head.

[Bill Vanek]

That's what the "whereas's" mean. They all refer to already existing
principles. They are supposed to list what gives them the right to do
whatever comes below, and the purpose of it. Everything below is
supposed to be something new, a new policy or more detailed policy or
more whatever, but as always is nothing but political drivel by poof
politicians.

I don't blame you for hating Canada. Its leaders clearly aren't
serious people. They could have distilled all those words to,
"everyone *will* be nice to everyone else. Dammit". Kind of like
kindergarten.

[Dutch]

On 2/6/2018 5:15 PM, BillB wrote:
> On Tuesday, February 6, 2018 at 5:02:55 PM UTC-8, Dutch wrote:
>> On 2/6/2018 4:52 PM, BillB wrote:
>>> Preamble to the Canadian Multiculturalism Act:
>>>
>>> WHEREAS the Constitution of Canada provides that every individual is equal before and under the law and has the right to the equal protection and benefit of the law without discrimination
>> That already existed before that was written. It's redundant.
> But Canadians felt the need to spell it all out

Everything was already spelled out in the law. Nothing in Canadian law
allows the government to treat anyone differently based on their
"culture", whatever you take that to mean.

Enshrining a redundant pseudo-principle like "Multiculturalism" is
patronizing finger-wagging, an insult to Canadians and a waste of
taxpayers money.

[Dutch]

On 2/6/2018 6:39 PM, Bill Vanek wrote:
> On Tue, 6 Feb 2018 17:02:52 -0800, Dutch <n...@email.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2/6/2018 4:52 PM, BillB wrote:
>>> Preamble to the Canadian Multiculturalism Act:
>>>
>>> WHEREAS the Constitution of Canada provides that every individual is equal before and under the law and has the right to the equal protection and benefit of the law without discrimination
>>
>> That already existed before that was written. It's redundant.
>
> That's what the "whereas's" mean. They all refer to already existing
> principles. They are supposed to list what gives them the right to do
> whatever comes below, and the purpose of it. Everything below is
> supposed to be something new, a new policy or more detailed policy or
> more whatever, but as always is nothing but political drivel by poof
> politicians.
>
> I don't blame you for hating Canada.

I don't hate Canada at all. It's the best country in the world. Virtual
signalling dipshits like BillB and Trudeau are in the minority.

> Its leaders clearly aren't
> serious people. They could have distilled all those words to,
> "everyone *will* be nice to everyone else. Dammit". Kind of like
> kindergarten.

Canadians are already the nicest people in the world. Pricks like BillB
are also in the minority. He's in two minorities.

[Bill Vanek]

That's because he thinks being in a minority, any minority, makes him
a contributor to multiculturalism. What kind of diversity would *that*
be if everyone were nice?

[Dutch]

On 2/6/2018 5:15 PM, BillB wrote:

This is just more of your drivel. How do you define "culture" in the
word "Multiculturalism"? Spoken language? People can speak any language
they want, I don't care. Religious beliefs? I don't care about that
either. It's none of my business. Canada has all the protections any
citizen needs to enjoy all the freedom our country has to offer.
Multiculturalism adds nothing.

What about customs? Lets say hypothetically that it is a custom in a
certain "culture" for a husband to use corporal punishment against a
wife if he believes she has been disrespectful to him. I don't respect
that custom, it goes against Canadian laws and values. Am I violating
"Multiculturalism"? Or what if *hypothetically* in another culture it is
a mainstream belief that homosexuals belong in prison. If I oppose that
belief am I violating "Multiculturalism"? What does "Multiculturalism"
require of me that Canadian laws and values don't already demand?

[BillB]

Why is multiculturalism a "pseudo-principle"? You really don't know what multiculturalism means?? It seems when confronted by any word that interferes with your bigoted inclinations, you suddenly have problems understanding what it means (Islamophobia, multiculturalism, etc.). What a strange coincidence!

And how is the Canadian Multiculturalism Act "redundant". Take s.3(1)(j), for example. What other document DIRECTS the Government of Canada, with the force of law, to harmonize the promotion of multiculturalism with the commitment to our two official languages, and gives remedies to private citizens if the government fails to discharge that legal obligation? Can you point me to the other statute that does that? You don't think THIS section gives a court guidance on Parliament's legislative intent in the event of a language dispute?

You don't like the statute because you don't want Canada to be multicultural. You reject fundamental Canadian values, which helps explain your Islamophobia. Islamophobia is not at all consistent or compatible with Canada's multicultural values.

[Dutch]

On 2/6/2018 7:12 PM, BillB wrote:
> On Tuesday, February 6, 2018 at 6:49:23 PM UTC-8, Dutch wrote:
>> On 2/6/2018 5:15 PM, BillB wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, February 6, 2018 at 5:02:55 PM UTC-8, Dutch wrote:
>>>> On 2/6/2018 4:52 PM, BillB wrote:
>>>>> Preamble to the Canadian Multiculturalism Act:
>>>>>
>>>>> WHEREAS the Constitution of Canada provides that every individual is equal before and under the law and has the right to the equal protection and benefit of the law without discrimination
>>>> That already existed before that was written. It's redundant.
>>> But Canadians felt the need to spell it all out
>>
>> Everything was already spelled out in the law. Nothing in Canadian law
>> allows the government to treat anyone differently based on their
>> "culture", whatever you take that to mean.
>>
>> Enshrining a redundant pseudo-principle like "Multiculturalism" is
>> patronizing finger-wagging, an insult to Canadians and a waste of
>> taxpayers money.
>
>
> Why is multiculturalism a "pseudo-principle"? You really don't know what multiculturalism means?? It seems when confronted by any word that interferes with your bigoted inclinations, you suddenly have problems understanding what it means (Islamophobia, multiculturalism, etc.). What a strange coincidence!
>
> And how is the Canadian Multiculturalism Act "redundant". Take s.3(1)(j), for example. What other document DIRECTS the Government of Canada, with the force of law, to harmonize the promotion of multiculturalism with the commitment to our two official languages, and gives remedies to private citizens if the government fails to discharge that legal obligation? Can you point me to the other statute that does that? You don't think THIS section gives a court guidance on Parliament's legislative intent in the event of a language dispute?

Wow, you had to dig deep to find one tiny subsection that makes any
difference to anything.

> You don't like the statute because you don't want Canada to be multicultural. You reject fundamental Canadian values, which helps explain your Islamophobia. Islamophobia is not at all consistent or compatible with Canada's multicultural values.

I do not like multiculturalism for the reasons I have already given and
because I reject the idea of government trying to dictate how people
must think. It's liberal totalitarianism and it, and you, can get
fucked. It was on full display to day with virtue-signallling Trudeau
and his rude "peoplekind" comment.
https://globalnews.ca/news/4009843/justin-trudeau-peoplekind-piers-morgan/

[fffurken]

On Wednesday, 7 February 2018 03:25:08 UTC, Dutch wrote:

> I do not like multiculturalism for the reasons I have already given and
> because I reject the idea of government trying to dictate how people
> must think. It's liberal totalitarianism and it, and you, can get
> fucked. It was on full display to day with virtue-signallling Trudeau
> and his rude "peoplekind" comment.
> https://globalnews.ca/news/4009843/justin-trudeau-peoplekind-piers-morgan/

lol Annnnnd again.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=auqbsMca7N0

[Dutch]

I apologize to the rest of the world on behalf of all Canadians for this
absurd idiot. At least BillB is an anonymous dipshit.

[BillB]

He meant to say humankind. I don't see the big deal. He was half-joking anyway. You try being filmed 18 hours a day and see if you can go gaffe-free. Let's face reality here, Dutch. He's the Prime Minister of Canada. You're the dipshit in this conversation.

He's right, though...."mankind" is a thoroughly outdated term. You wouldn't appreciate it if you were referred to as part of womenkind, would you? No, you wouldn't. So why should women have to put up with it?

Geez...stop being such a hypocrite. You can't even stand be called an Islamophobe, and you actually are one.

[Dutch]

On 2/6/2018 9:53 PM, BillB wrote:
>> I apologize to the rest of the world on behalf of all Canadians for this
>> absurd idiot. At least BillB is an anonymous dipshit.
> He meant to say humankind.

He should have listened politely to the woman make her point, not
interrupt and try to "educate" her on politically correct speech. The
guy is an arrogant virtue-signalling assclown.

[fffurken]

On Wednesday, 7 February 2018 05:54:02 UTC, BillB wrote:

> Let's face reality here, Dutch. He's the Prime Minister of Canada. You're the dipshit in this conversation.

lol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuK4JyCiJ5o

[BillB]

I have never heard of Ben Shapiro, but after watching as much of that clip as I could stomach, I promise you I would kill myself if I was that big a dweeb. He must have been PUMMELED in high school! Can you imagine any woman wanting to touch that with a 10 foot pole? lol

[fffurken]

On Wednesday, 7 February 2018 05:30:15 UTC, Dutch wrote:

> I apologize to the rest of the world on behalf of all Canadians for this
> absurd idiot. At least BillB is an anonymous dipshit.

The similarities are striking though. I've said before that Justin Trudeau is what it would be like if the Canadian dhimmi ran the country.

[fffurken]

On Wednesday, 7 February 2018 07:22:57 UTC, BillB wrote:

> I have never heard of Ben Shapiro

lol Of course you haven't, you've never left your ideological bubble

[BillB]

On Tuesday, February 6, 2018 at 11:03:37 PM UTC-8, Dutch wrote:

> He should have listened politely to the woman make her point, not
> interrupt and try to "educate" her on politically correct speech. The
> guy is an arrogant virtue-signalling assclown.

She was rambling on like a homeless person, and then she started using highly offensive terminology. I think he just saw it as an opening to shut the bitch up.

[BillB]

First, I don't have any ideology. An ideology suggests logic along the lines of: I believe x, therefore I must also believe in y and z. That sort of thinking is totally foreign to me. I approach each issue or problem individually, assess all available facts and information, then use my formidable logic skills to come to the correct conclusion. That's how I am able to always be right about everything. Duh!

Secondly, I certainly don't need anyone on youtube with an IQ three standard deviations lower than mine telling me what to think. TOTALLY unwanted and unnecessary! That stuff is there for people like you who can't think for themselves. Followers.

[Dutch]

On 2/6/2018 7:12 PM, BillB wrote:

> You don't like the statute because you don't want Canada to be multicultural. You reject fundamental Canadian values, which helps explain your Islamophobia. Islamophobia is not at all consistent or compatible with Canada's multicultural values.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnmI9eFzO9A

[BillB]

I don't understand why you showed me that. I saw a bunch of nice Muslim people minding their own business, and a bunch of racist white people destroying their own hometowns because they couldn't handle seeing a woman walking around with a veil or men walking around in their pyjamas.

One guy even said, "they don't drink", so I guess that's one way Muslim culture is vastly superior, eh? But nobody was stopping the locals from still getting sloshed every night at the pub and eating their bangers and mash. The pubs closed because their customers were xenophobes who ran away. How is that the Muslims' fault?

"Oooo..Oooo...the Muslims had a parade! And they were dressed funny! I'm moving!!"

lol...stupid old white people. Maybe instead of whispering about their new neighbors and spying on them from behind the bushes, they should have made an effort to make them feel welcome and to get to know them. That's what I would have done, and that's what Justin would have done. It's what anyone would have done who had any faith in peoplekind.

[Dutch]

On 2/7/2018 1:07 AM, BillB wrote:
> On Wednesday, February 7, 2018 at 12:37:56 AM UTC-8, Dutch wrote:
>> On 2/6/2018 7:12 PM, BillB wrote:
>>> You don't like the statute because you don't want Canada to be multicultural. You reject fundamental Canadian values, which helps explain your Islamophobia. Islamophobia is not at all consistent or compatible with Canada's multicultural values.
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnmI9eFzO9A
>
> I don't understand why you showed me that.

I thought it was one of the better documentaries on the eventual outcome
of multiculturalism when large populations of Muslims are involved. They
don't integrate, they mix with other ethnic groups like oil mixes with
water.

[risky biz]

I'm guessing it's only considered so by racial and ethnic xenophobes. Which explains the need for the law.

[risky biz]

Wait. I haven't been keeping up with the news- Justin Trudeau shut 'dutch' up?

[risky biz]

On Tuesday, February 6, 2018 at 6:54:28 PM UTC-8, Dutch wrote:
> On 2/6/2018 6:39 PM, Bill Vanek wrote:
> > On Tue, 6 Feb 2018 17:02:52 -0800, Dutch <n...@email.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On 2/6/2018 4:52 PM, BillB wrote:
> >>> Preamble to the Canadian Multiculturalism Act:
> >>>
> >>> WHEREAS the Constitution of Canada provides that every individual is equal before and under the law and has the right to the equal protection and benefit of the law without discrimination
> >>
> >> That already existed before that was written. It's redundant.
> >
> > That's what the "whereas's" mean. They all refer to already existing
> > principles. They are supposed to list what gives them the right to do
> > whatever comes below, and the purpose of it. Everything below is
> > supposed to be something new, a new policy or more detailed policy or
> > more whatever, but as always is nothing but political drivel by poof
> > politicians.
> >
> > I don't blame you for hating Canada.
>
> I don't hate Canada at all. It's the best country in the world. Virtual
> signalling dipshits like BillB and Trudeau are in the minority.

'On October 19, 2015, after the longest official campaign in over a century, Trudeau led the Liberals to a decisive victory in the federal election. The Liberals won 184 of the 338 seats, with 39.5% of the popular vote, for a strong majority government, a gain of 150 seats compared to the 2011 federal election.'
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justin_Trudeau#2015_federal_election

You know what, 'dutch'? Sometimes I wonder if you're just (literally) brain dead.

[Dutch]

On 2/7/2018 1:07 AM, BillB wrote:

> I saw a bunch of nice Muslim people minding their own business, and a bunch of racist white people

Those white people are directly descended from the people that gave us
the language, laws, system of government and English culture that you
take for granted. They're watching their culture get overrun and
destroyed. And all you do is disparage them and side with the Muslims,
who aren't giving up anything and haven't given us anything.
Multiculturalism is a failure. There needs to be a better way.

[risky biz]

Your babble isn't even internally logically coherent. WTF are you trying to express? Why don't you just shit your pants and start crying?

[BillB]

On Wednesday, February 7, 2018 at 1:28:34 AM UTC-8, Dutch wrote:

> I thought it was one of the better documentaries on the eventual outcome
> of multiculturalism when large populations of Muslims are involved. They
> don't integrate, they mix with other ethnic groups like oil mixes with
> water.

The only problem I really saw was with the white people. People don't "integrate" when they are made to feel unwelcome. The Muslim people in that video all seemed to experience the palpable hatred toward them.

This happens all over Europe. Muslims face extreme racism from whites, are herded into low income ghettos (which are later deemed "no-go zones" by racists), are denied education and employment opportunities, and eventually turn to violence and crime as an outlet. It's very much the same thing that happened in the US with inner-city ghettos.

Canada hasn't had these problems in Toronto where the Muslim population is approaching 10%. That's because of our multiculturalism. It is made clear to Muslim immigrants from the moment they arrive that their culture will be respected, and that they will in no way be treated as second class citizens, that they will be free to reach their potential, and that they will be legally protected from people like you.

[risky biz]

You heard it here first, everyone. Canada is overrun with Muslims.

'The remaining 8.8% are affiliated with non-Christian religions, the largest of which are Islam (3.2%) and Hinduism (1.5%).'
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada#Religion

Question, 'dutch'- do you think the USA is overrun with Africans?

'African Americans
Total population 40,695,277[1]
12.7% of the total U.S. population (2015)'
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_Americans

[risky biz]

One more lie for 'dutch's' lie lists. Why it's a lie: the Muslim world is, by far, the most ethnically diverse of any culture in the world. For comparison take a look at 'dutch's' hideous countenance which shrinks from any hint of cultural diversity.

'Muslims are the majority in 49 countries,[100] they speak hundreds of languages and come from diverse ethnic backgrounds. Major languages spoken by Muslims include Arabic, Bengali, Urdu, Punjabi, Malay, Javanese, Sundanese, Swahili, Hausa, Fula, Berber, Tuareg, Somali, Albanian, Spanish, Bosnian, Russian, Turkish, Azeri, Kazakh, Uzbek, Tatar, Persian, Kurdish, Pashto, Balochi, Sindhi and Kashmiri, among many others.'
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_world#Demographics

There's a description for someone who continually shoots off their mouth without having the first clue what they're talking about. The description is 'asshole'.

[BillB]

On Wednesday, February 7, 2018 at 1:42:35 AM UTC-8, Dutch wrote:

> Those white people are directly descended from the people that gave us
> the language, laws, system of government and English culture that you
> take for granted.

I couldn't give two fucks if they were direct descendants of Jesus Christ. They're obvious racists. In case you haven't noticed by now, I have no respect for racists. I couldn't care less who their daddy is.

>They're watching their culture get overrun and
> destroyed.

They weren't "overrun". More Muslims moved in as more white people moved away. Nobody forced the white people to go anywhere. They left because they were irrationally uncomfortable (phobic) around other cultures (Islam in particular). I saw nothing in that video the Muslims were doing to logically justify the irrational white flight. Their (drinking) culture was destroyed because the pub customers were xenophobes and left town.

[fffurken]

On Wednesday, 7 February 2018 08:25:04 UTC, BillB wrote:

> I don't have any ideology. An ideology suggests logic along the lines of: I believe x, therefore I must also believe in y and z.

Would you prefer it if I called you a Multiculturalist?

[fffurken]

On Wednesday, 7 February 2018 09:28:34 UTC, Dutch wrote:

> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnmI9eFzO9A
> >
> > I don't understand why you showed me that.
>
> I thought it was one of the better documentaries

It's part of a documentary, a follow-up of a documentary from about ten years ago and based on the Casey review, something I mentioned previously (https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rec.gambling.poker/iSR0f26yXxQ/lzW4092mBQAJ).

She (Casey, in the video) seems to be a straight talker. I think the Ministry of Truth eh, government has buried her review.

> on the eventual outcome
> of multiculturalism when large populations of Muslims are involved. They
> don't integrate, they mix with other ethnic groups like oil mixes with
> water.

The reason for that isn't a mystery of course, and Islam is as monocultural as you can get.

[fffurken]

On Wednesday, 7 February 2018 09:42:35 UTC, Dutch wrote:

> They're watching their culture get overrun and destroyed. And all you do is disparage them and side with the Muslims

"With people like you around Canadian culture and values are defenseless."

"Defenseless" doesn't really seem to cover it though, "under attack" might be better.

[fffurken]

On Wednesday, 7 February 2018 10:18:41 UTC, BillB wrote:

> I couldn't give two fucks if they were direct descendants of Jesus Christ. They're obvious racists. In case you haven't noticed by now, I have no respect for racists. I couldn't care less who their daddy is.

What race are Moslems?

[BillB]

This has been explained to you already many times. Why do you keep asking the same childish low-IQ question? Is it because you are a low-IQ child?

[BillB]

I recognize the obvious and indisputable fact that the most successful countries in the world are multicultural (officially or unofficially). Call it what you want. It's not an "ideology". It's just a fact.

Believing that eating vegetables is more healthy for you than eating shit is not an "ideology" either, but if it makes you feel better call it the Ideology of Vegetablism, go right ahead.

[fffurken]

On Wednesday, 7 February 2018 17:16:12 UTC, BillB wrote:

> > What race are Moslems?
>
> This has been explained to you already many times. Why do you keep asking the same childish low-IQ question? Is it because you are a low-IQ child?

I don't recall you ever "explaining" to me what race Moslems are. Is it because Moslems aren't a race?

But if we say that they're mostly "Asian", as they're often described in the UK, then why is it that there's no Hinduismophobia, Sikhismophobia, etc?

Why can't you give (adequate) answers to simple questions?

lol In pursuance of your (warped) ideology you'll do anything to avoid the elephant in the room won't you.

http://tinyurl.com/n7cnkkd

[fffurken]

On Wednesday, 7 February 2018 17:22:03 UTC, BillB wrote:

> I recognize the obvious and indisputable fact that the most successful countries in the world are multicultural

What does that have to do with mass Islamic immigration? See, this is why it's an ideology, you're incapable of putting it into context, or thinking rationally.

[risky biz]

Stop making noise you stupid shit.

[Dutch]

On 2/7/2018 1:47 AM, BillB wrote:
> The only problem I really saw was with the white people. People don't "integrate" when they are made to feel unwelcome. The Muslim people in that video all seemed to experience the palpable hatred toward them.

People don't integrate when they keep to themselves. Every other
immigrant group that has come to the UK has managed to integrate quite
well, why do Muslims have such a problem? They see *themselves* as
different. Did you see that Muslim man in the documentary who warned
about the extreme ideas that are being preached in mosques?

You always blame the white population for everything and absolve the
Muslim immigrants of any responsibility for the tension between them and
the rest of the population. That's the infamous Muslim victim game, and
they have you playing right along.

[Clave]

On 2/7/2018 12:11 PM, Dutch wrote:
> On 2/7/2018 1:47 AM, BillB wrote:
>> The only problem I really saw was with the white people. People don't
>> "integrate" when they are made to feel unwelcome. The Muslim people in
>> that video all seemed to experience the palpable hatred toward them.
>
> People don't integrate when they keep to themselves.

Like when they're targets of irrational bigotry.

Funny, that.

[fffurken]

No, your endless excuses and unfathomable ignorance (of Islam that's why you're called an Islamophile/Islamopologist) isn't remotely funny. It's tired as fuck.

[fffurken]

Actually, I should really say excuse-making, because it's just the one excuse (the white man), over and over again.

What a vile, brainwashed racist.

[Dutch]

On 2/7/2018 2:18 AM, BillB wrote:
> On Wednesday, February 7, 2018 at 1:42:35 AM UTC-8, Dutch wrote:
>
>> Those white people are directly descended from the people that gave us
>> the language, laws, system of government and English culture that you
>> take for granted.
>
> I couldn't give two fucks if they were direct descendants of Jesus Christ. They're obvious racists. In case you haven't noticed by now, I have no respect for racists. I couldn't care less who their daddy is.

Your name calling is weak. England is more than just an island in the
North Sea. It, and its people are the source of the language,
government, laws and culture that we enjoy, and specifically of that
country.

>> They're watching their culture get overrun and
>> destroyed.
>
> They weren't "overrun". More Muslims moved in as more white people moved away. Nobody forced the white people to go anywhere. They left because they were irrationally uncomfortable (phobic) around other cultures (Islam in particular). I saw nothing in that video the Muslims were doing to logically justify the irrational white flight. Their (drinking) culture was destroyed because the pub customers were xenophobes and left town.

It's England, not Pakistan. The British people created that culture.
Newcomers should adapt, integrate, learn the ways of their hosts, not
plunk their entire culture into a new country like taking a huge dump in
the middle of their living room. Why would anyone welcome that?

Multiculturalism is a failed idea. We can pretend it works here because
the one culture that refuses to assimilate is at 3%, not 30.

[Dutch]

On 2/7/2018 9:21 AM, BillB wrote:
> On Wednesday, February 7, 2018 at 8:35:40 AM UTC-8, fffurken wrote:
>> On Wednesday, 7 February 2018 08:25:04 UTC, BillB wrote:
>>
>>> I don't have any ideology. An ideology suggests logic along the lines of: I believe x, therefore I must also believe in y and z.
>>
>> Would you prefer it if I called you a Multiculturalist?
>
> I recognize the obvious and indisputable fact that the most successful countries in the world are multicultural (officially or unofficially). Call it what you want. It's not an "ideology". It's just a fact.

The most successful countries in the world, i.e. western democracies,
Japan, S Korea, were all built on a single core culture, one that the
people all felt part of and contributed towards. Gradual immigration
from other cultures has proven to be sustainable and beneficial. Mass
migration from Islamic countries such as is happening in Europe is
changing the underlying reality that made these nations successful in
the first place. Muslims, unique among all immigrants, seem to have a
tendency to come into stark conflict with their host nations. Chinese,
Koreans, Japanese, Hindus, Sikhs, all are able to integrate without
losing their own cultures. I know you like to blame white racism for
everything, because you get a perverse satisfaction from it, but open
your eyes.

>
> Believing that eating vegetables is more healthy for you than eating shit is not an "ideology" either, but if it makes you feel better call it the Ideology of Vegetablism, go right ahead.
>

Drinking water is healthy, but too much too fast can kill you.

[fffurken]

On Wednesday, 7 February 2018 20:41:27 UTC, Dutch wrote:

> Japan, S Korea...

Are effectively ethnostates, (the fraud of) "multiculturalism" is only (currently) for white countries.

[Dutch]

The UK has been welcoming immigrants for decades. Since India gained its
independence millions of Indian Hindus have moved to Great Britain. They
seemed to integrate pretty well. Curry rivals Fish 'n Chips as a popular
English dish. The same is true of Chinese, Koreans and Japanese. Muslims
need to assume some responsibility for how their culture resists
integration. They seem to view themselves as *other* so it should be no
surprise that others see them that way.

[Dutch]

That's true, but when Japanese and Korean people emigrate to western
countries they are able to retain the culture of their homeland in their
own families and ethnic communities while still fitting in seamlessly
with the host culture.

[BillB]

On Wednesday, February 7, 2018 at 12:26:40 PM UTC-8, Dutch wrote:


> Your name calling is weak.

I'm not "name calling". I am describing what I observed. There were many white racists interviewed in that video.

England is more than just an island in the
> North Sea. It, and its people are the source of the language,
> government, laws and culture that we enjoy, and specifically of that
> country.

What does that have to do with being a racist?

> It's England, not Pakistan. The British people created that culture.

So you propose a heirarchy of first and second class citizens? How very Nazi of you. I would expect no less.

> Newcomers should adapt, integrate, learn the ways of their hosts, not
> plunk their entire culture into a new country like taking a huge dump in
> the middle of their living room. Why would anyone welcome that?

The Muslims in that video weren't doing anything to suggest they weren't "adapting". The were peacefully walking down the street or throwing street celebrations, and the white racists were pointing at them for no reason and saying they weren't "comfortable" with it. LOL Talk about dog whistle language!! It's almost a cliche it's so racist.

> Multiculturalism is a failed idea. We can pretend it works here because
> the one culture that refuses to assimilate is at 3%, not 30.

You just finished saying yesterday that the whole concept of multiculturalism is "redundant" because it is already encompassed by existing Canadian values. Now you say multiculturalism is a failed idea, therefore you are saying Canadian values are a failed idea.

What do you don't seem to grasp is that IT DOESN'T MATTER if you like multiculturalism or not. Nobody gives a fuck what "Dutch" thinks. Multiculturalism is the law of the land, and Canadians felt so strongly about it that we entrenched it in our Constitution. You can try to organize a Constitutional amendment, but I think we both know that is never going to happen. Your next best option is to leave Canada and go live somewhere where the prevalent culture fosters and supports bigoted attitudes like yours. You are simply not welcome here. Muslims are.

[BillB]

What do the Muslims have to do to "integrate" to King Dutch's satisfaction?

I have my own demands: 1) don't break the law That's it. But I believe in freedom. You're a totalitarian bigot.

[Dutch]

On 2/7/2018 11:27 PM, BillB wrote:
> On Wednesday, February 7, 2018 at 12:26:40 PM UTC-8, Dutch wrote:
>
>
>> Your name calling is weak.
>
> I'm not "name calling". I am describing what I observed. There were many white racists interviewed in that video.

Calling someone a racist is name calling.

>
> England is more than just an island in the
>> North Sea. It, and its people are the source of the language,
>> government, laws and culture that we enjoy, and specifically of that
>> country.
>
> What does that have to do with being a racist?

More name calling.

>
>
>> It's England, not Pakistan. The British people created that culture.
>
> So you propose a heirarchy of first and second class citizens? How very Nazi of you. I would expect no less.

No, I expect newcomers to an ancient culture to bend over backwards to
respect the culture of the people who have invited them into their
country, to try really hard to fit in, to be grateful. Instead they
expect to be accommodated and have all their complaints heard.

>> Newcomers should adapt, integrate, learn the ways of their hosts, not
>> plunk their entire culture into a new country like taking a huge dump in
>> the middle of their living room. Why would anyone welcome that?
>
> The Muslims in that video weren't doing anything to suggest they weren't "adapting". The were peacefully walking down the street or throwing street celebrations, and the white racists were pointing at them for no reason and saying they weren't "comfortable" with it. LOL Talk about dog whistle language!! It's almost a cliche it's so racist.

OMG, you can't even admit to being uncomfortable without being branded a
racist. Talk about fascism.

The parade was quite intimidating to watch, but you forgot to mention
the rioting, and the warning about extreme ideas being taught in the
mosques.

>
>> Multiculturalism is a failed idea. We can pretend it works here because
>> the one culture that refuses to assimilate is at 3%, not 30.
>
> You just finished saying yesterday that the whole concept of multiculturalism is "redundant" because it is already encompassed by existing Canadian values. Now you say multiculturalism is a failed idea, therefore you are saying Canadian values are a failed idea.

Circular nonsense. We don't have the effects of "multiculturalism" in
Canada because the Muslim population is too small to be a problem. Other
cultures naturally adapt to one another. Islam is rigid and suspicious
of non-Muslims.

>
> What do you don't seem to grasp is that IT DOESN'T MATTER if you like multiculturalism or not. Nobody gives a fuck what "Dutch" thinks. Multiculturalism is the law of the land, and Canadians felt so strongly about it that we entrenched it in our Constitution. You can try to organize a Constitutional amendment, but I think we both know that is never going to happen. Your next best option is to leave Canada and go live somewhere where the prevalent culture fosters and supports bigoted attitudes like yours. You are simply not welcome here. Muslims are.

"Multiculturalism" is bullshit and is meaningless in the context of
Canada in this particular era. Canada welcomes other cultures and in
return people of other cultures *fit in* and find their niche where can
maintain aspects of their own culture and thrive within Canada. That has
always been the nature of Canada and Canadians, we didn't a fucking
government decree to make it that way. Having a country where cultures
get along and respect each other is what we need and what we have. And
new cultures to the country are welcome as long as they respect Canadian
values and other cultures.

You and Justin can shove your government decrees up each others' asses.

[Dutch]

On 2/7/2018 11:30 PM, BillB wrote:
> What do the Muslims have to do to "integrate"

They can ask the Koreans, the Polish, the Chinese, the Hindus, the
Japanese, the Russians, the Germans. They all figured it out.

[popinjay]

Six nationalities, and one religion. Insensitive.

[Dutch]

They're cultures, like Islam.

[BillB]

On Wednesday, February 7, 2018 at 9:32:16 AM UTC-8, fffurken wrote:

We weren't talking about "mass Islamic immigration", whatever that is. I don't even know what that's supposed to mean. And why would you differentiate "Islamic" immigration from any other kind of immigration? That would be unconstitutional and therefore highly illegal in most Western jurisdictions.

[BillB]

On Thursday, February 8, 2018 at 12:45:31 AM UTC-8, Dutch wrote:

> Calling someone a racist is name calling.

Calling a pig a pig is not "name calling", it is describing reality, which is what I did here. There people PACKED UP AND SOLD THEIR HOUSES because they saw some Muslims on the street. If you can't accept that those are racists you are totally divorced from reality. Being "uncomfortable" around people simply because they are different from you is a the hallmark of a racist.

> > England is more than just an island in the
> >> North Sea. It, and its people are the source of the language,
> >> government, laws and culture that we enjoy, and specifically of that
> >> country.
> >
> > What does that have to do with being a racist?
>
> More name calling.

So you have nothing? What justified their racism? Why did they move away? What did the Muslims do to them?

> > So you propose a heirarchy of first and second class citizens? How very Nazi of you. I would expect no less.
>
> No, I expect newcomers to an ancient culture to bend over backwards to
> respect the culture of the people who have invited them into their
> country

So you are holding them to a different standard of behavior than anyone else.

>, to try really hard to fit in,

Try to "fit in" how? Do they have to watch hockey at least once a week? Speak English at least 30% of the time? Convert to Christianity? Start drinmking like a fish and abusing women? Be specific.

> Instead they
> expect to be accommodated and have all their complaints heard.

So you want this group not to be able to complain like "real" citizens, but you wouldn't call it a second class of citizen? You want to take away their constitutional right to speech and peaceful protest, is that correct? But IN NO WAY does that make them second class. Not in Dutch's world.

> OMG, you can't even admit to being uncomfortable without being branded a
> racist. Talk about fascism.

Why would you be uncomfortable if you aren't racist? I didn't see anything there that made me uncomfortable. They inteviewed white racists who were "uncomfortable" seeing Muslims walk down the street. If you can't see that as racism, it can only be because you are one too.

> > You just finished saying yesterday that the whole concept of multiculturalism is "redundant" because it is already encompassed by existing Canadian values. Now you say multiculturalism is a failed idea, therefore you are saying Canadian values are a failed idea.
>
> Circular nonsense.

It's not circular at all. If multiculturalism is just an amalgamation of preexisting Canadian values, and you think multiculturalism has "failed", then you must have a problem with the underlying values. So why DO you hate Canada?

We don't have the effects of "multiculturalism" in
> Canada because the Muslim population is too small to be a problem.

LOL...it's approaching 10% in Toronto, one of the most desirable cities in the world. Now you're going to tell me Toronto isn't a multicultural city?? GTFO Dutch. Your bigotry traps you into talking like a fool.

[Dutch]

"When in Rome.." is more conducive to successful integration and harmony
than "Come, bring your culture and keep it just as it is." The U.S.
melting pot philosophy encourages that. It challenges the immigrant to
work to fit in, and in turn helps them be accepted more easily.

[Clave]

It motherfuckingly well does not.

[Dutch]

On 2/8/2018 1:44 AM, Clave wrote:
>> "When in Rome.." is more conducive to successful integration and
>> harmony than "Come, bring your culture and keep it just as it is." The
>> U.S. melting pot philosophy encourages that.
>
> It motherfuckingly well does not.

I meant the melting pot is a more useful and successful strategy than
multiculturalism.

[Dutch]

On 2/8/2018 1:38 AM, BillB wrote:
> On Thursday, February 8, 2018 at 12:45:31 AM UTC-8, Dutch wrote:
>
>> Calling someone a racist is name calling.
>
> Calling a pig a pig is not "name calling", it is describing reality, which is what I did here.

Bad analogy. To satisfy that analogy you would have to use the term
"people" or "human beings", "Britishers" or something, a pig is a pig is
not a judgement.

> There people PACKED UP AND SOLD THEIR HOUSES because they saw some Muslims on the street. If you can't accept that those are racists you are totally divorced from reality. Being "uncomfortable" around people simply because they are different from you is a the hallmark of a racist.

That's bullshit, that's not what racism is, and it goes far deeper than
that. The local pubs had to shut down for lack of business. The new
people don't mix with the Britishers. There's no longer any social cohesion.

>>> England is more than just an island in the
>>>> North Sea. It, and its people are the source of the language,
>>>> government, laws and culture that we enjoy, and specifically of that
>>>> country.
>>>
>>> What does that have to do with being a racist?
>>
>> More name calling.
>
> So you have nothing? What justified their racism? Why did they move away? What did the Muslims do to them?

Read the stories, they are keeping to themselves and imposing their
culture in this area where people have lives for generations.

>
>
>>> So you propose a heirarchy of first and second class citizens? How very Nazi of you. I would expect no less.
>>
>> No, I expect newcomers to an ancient culture to bend over backwards to
>> respect the culture of the people who have invited them into their
>> country
>
> So you are holding them to a different standard of behavior than anyone else.

No, the people there already respect the culture. Newcomers should meet
the old timers halfway at least, if there is going to be a community.

>
>
>> , to try really hard to fit in,
>
> Try to "fit in" how? Do they have to watch hockey at least once a week? Speak English at least 30% of the time? Convert to Christianity? Start drinmking like a fish and abusing women? Be specific.

They're human beings, they should be able to figure it out, every other
culture does.

>
>> Instead they
>> expect to be accommodated and have all their complaints heard.
>
> So you want this group not to be able to complain like "real" citizens, but you wouldn't call it a second class of citizen? You want to take away their constitutional right to speech and peaceful protest, is that correct? But IN NO WAY does that make them second class. Not in Dutch's world.

I am simply noting that it is always Muslims who have this great
difficulty integrating. The reason is either they don't want to, and
polls have shown that many don't, and/or their culture is simply
incompatible.

>> OMG, you can't even admit to being uncomfortable without being branded a
>> racist. Talk about fascism.
>
> Why would you be uncomfortable if you aren't racist?

Why would being uncomfortable make you racist? A racist believes that
other races are inferior. Muslims are not even a race.

> I didn't see anything there that made me uncomfortable. They inteviewed white racists who were "uncomfortable" seeing Muslims walk down the street. If you can't see that as racism, it can only be because you are one too.

They didn't say that. That march was loud and aggressive. It would
disturb anyone.

>
>
>>> You just finished saying yesterday that the whole concept of multiculturalism is "redundant" because it is already encompassed by existing Canadian values. Now you say multiculturalism is a failed idea, therefore you are saying Canadian values are a failed idea.
>>
>> Circular nonsense.
>
> It's not circular at all. If multiculturalism is just an amalgamation of preexisting Canadian values, and you think multiculturalism has "failed", then you must have a problem with the underlying values. So why DO you hate Canada?

I have a problem with having a government dictate how I think, presuming
that Canadians are unwelcoming to other cultures unless ordered by the
government. I'm accepting, but I also demand that Canadian values are
respected by other cultures before they get my respect. They won't get
it because I was ordered by the government, not ever. It's a ridiculous
and naive idea.

> We don't have the effects of "multiculturalism" in
>> Canada because the Muslim population is too small to be a problem.
>
> LOL...it's approaching 10% in Toronto, one of the most desirable cities in the world. Now you're going to tell me Toronto isn't a multicultural city?? GTFO Dutch. Your bigotry traps you into talking like a fool.

"When in Rome.."

>
> Other
>> cultures naturally adapt to one another. Islam is rigid and suspicious
>> of non-Muslims.
>>
>>>
>>> What do you don't seem to grasp is that IT DOESN'T MATTER if you like multiculturalism or not. Nobody gives a fuck what "Dutch" thinks. Multiculturalism is the law of the land, and Canadians felt so strongly about it that we entrenched it in our Constitution. You can try to organize a Constitutional amendment, but I think we both know that is never going to happen. Your next best option is to leave Canada and go live somewhere where the prevalent culture fosters and supports bigoted attitudes like yours. You are simply not welcome here. Muslims are.

What you don't grasp is that it doesn't matter if you fetishize
"Multiculturalism" or not, it will ultimately lead to divisions and
problems. There is plenty of anti-Muslim sentiment in Toronto and other
places, and if you're looking for the reasons, I'd list the number one
reason as resentment against imposed "Multiculturalism", reluctance of
Muslims to adapt and modify their strange (to non-Muslims) customs, and
least of all, racism.

[Clave]

Gibberish.

[BillB]

He's speaking gibberish to me, too. He apparently thinks the Canadian Multiculturalism Act is "telling him what to think". It's very much in line with other crazy people hearing voices from the walls, or thinking their dog is talking to them. Of course, The Multiculturalism Act doesn't "tell" Dutch to do anything. It is strictly a directive to the federal government and its agents. Dutch is still free to be as bigoted as he pleases (so long as he doesn't break any existing laws), just as Muslims are free to live their lives as they please. It's called freedom, and Dutch HATES it.

[fffurken]

On Thursday, 8 February 2018 10:15:02 UTC, Dutch wrote:

> A racist believes that other races are inferior.

Hardly

> Muslims are not even a race.

Someone tell the Canadian dhimmi

[fffurken]

On Thursday, 8 February 2018 10:26:10 UTC, Clave wrote:

> > I meant the melting pot is a more useful and successful strategy than
> > multiculturalism.
>
> Gibberish.

Only to you

[fffurken]

On Thursday, 8 February 2018 09:24:14 UTC, BillB wrote:

> We weren't talking about "mass Islamic immigration", whatever that is. I don't even know what that's supposed to mean.

Yet you used to know what it means.. what happened, brain injury?

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rec.gambling.poker/M2wRV_VdKfE/isdhsq3K45YJ

You'd do well to remember that the internet never forgets, and neither do I.

[fffurken]

On Thursday, 8 February 2018 07:30:09 UTC, BillB wrote:

> What do the Muslims have to do to "integrate" to King Dutch's satisfaction?

It's a moot question because it will never happen. All of human history, including most recently, has told us this. Yet we continue with the madness.

[BillB]

ho hum...another furkin lie.

[BillB]

On Thursday, February 8, 2018 at 8:01:49 AM UTC-8, fffurken wrote:
> On Thursday, 8 February 2018 07:30:09 UTC, BillB wrote:
>
> > What do the Muslims have to do to "integrate" to King Dutch's satisfaction?
>
> It's a moot question because it will never happen.

Of course it won't. King Dutch is an Islamophobe.

[fffurken]

From -

Me: I'm not against Muslims. I'm against mass Islamic immigration into Europe.

The Canadian dhimmi: No, you're against any immigration -- your so-called "Manifesto" (lol), remember?

To -

The Canadian dhimmi: I don't know what mass Islamic immigration means

lol

[fffurken]

Everyone knows you can't read (for comprehension)

[BillB]

On Thursday, February 8, 2018 at 10:11:05 AM UTC-8, fffurken wrote:

> > ho hum...another furkin lie.
>
> From -
>
> Me: I'm not against Muslims. I'm against mass Islamic immigration into Europe.
>
> The Canadian dhimmi: No, you're against any immigration -- your so-called "Manifesto" (lol), remember?
>
> To -
>
> The Canadian dhimmi: I don't know what mass Islamic immigration means
>
> lol

In other words, I know it must mean something more than ZERO Islamic immigration ("mass" obviously means more than one). That doesn't imply I know what the term is really supposed to mean, because I don't. How could I? It's something you just made up (or copied from youtube).

What is "mass Islamic immigration"? One billion people? 100 million people? 10 million people? 1000? Who knows? It's just more Islamophobic gibberish.

[BillB]

By that you mean you didn't understand my question?? lol

[fffurken]

On Thursday, 8 February 2018 18:16:56 UTC, BillB wrote:

> I know it must mean something more than ZERO Islamic immigration ("mass" obviously means more than one). That doesn't imply I know what the term is really supposed to mean

So you're either a moron or you're pretending to be one

[fffurken]

If that's the case, how did I know that it was moot?

[BillB]

Yet you still haven't explained what it is supposed to mean. Don't worry...nobody noticed. LOL

[BillB]

I asked:

"What do the Muslims have to do to "integrate" to King Dutch's satisfaction?"

Your answer was that it is moot because it will never happen.

I agreed.

English, motherfucker. Do you speak it?

[fffurken]

Only to you.

In this instance "mass" would mean a large number of people, a precise figure is only required in your head (to understand what it means).

[fffurken]

moot
adjective

having little or no practical relevance.
"the whole matter is becoming increasingly moot"

[BillB]

I can make one more deduction. The Muslim population in Europe increased from 3.8% in 2010 to 4.9% in 2017. So I do know that you consider a given group's population increasing 0.9% (only partially a result of immigration) over six years is "MASS IMMIGRATION" LOL! What a moron.

[BillB]

Large?? wtf? So you don't know what it means either? Many people would consider 1000 people a "large number of people". Again, you are speaking Islamophobic gibberish.

[BillB]

We all know what moot is. The question was ""What do the Muslims have to do to "integrate" to King Dutch's satisfaction?"

Your answer was that it is moot because it will never happen.

I agreed. The question is moot because Dutch will never be satisfied no matter what Muslims do. he's an Islamophobe. We already established that them minding their own business and obeying the law isn't good enough for him, but he won't give me any specifics beyond that. Sort of like how you use the term "mass immigration" yet cannot define it with any specificity.

[fffurken]

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rec.gambling.poker/xdSLhvoBIMI/XI8ixDpfAAAJ

Btw, I wouldn't consider a thousand Muslims to be mass Islamic immigration in almost any country I can think of, or a policy of mass Islamic immigration (unless it was the first thousand).

[fffurken]

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rec.gambling.poker/xdSLhvoBIMI/HtA0-ZheAAAJ

[BillB]

On Thursday, February 8, 2018 at 10:47:00 AM UTC-8, fffurken wrote:

> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rec.gambling.poker/xdSLhvoBIMI/HtA0-ZheAAAJ

We know. You have nothing.

[fffurken]

On Thursday, 8 February 2018 18:37:07 UTC, BillB wrote:

> The Muslim population in Europe increased from 3.8% in 2010 to 4.9% in 2017.

What's that as a number? And define Europe, mass Islamic immigration hasn't been the case in all European countries.

[fffurken]

...in fact certain countries in Europe have the same number of Muslims as Vancouver does, i.e. none.

[BillB]

On Thursday, February 8, 2018 at 10:56:37 AM UTC-8, fffurken wrote:

> ...in fact certain countries in Europe have the same number of Muslims as Vancouver does, i.e. none.

I think Vancouver has about 3% now. It's really not far off the overall European average.

Which countries in Europe have no Muslims? It must be the real shitholes.

[fffurken]

On Thursday, 8 February 2018 18:55:47 UTC, fffurken wrote:

The reason I asked you that question is of course because if we are to take your figures at face value (which I don't, and you were recently caught posting lies by Pew) then it matters. If we say that the population of Europe is 750 million, then that percentage increase would represent an increase of 7.5 million death cultists, but if that only happened in countries with a combined population of say 250 million, then the percentage increase is higher (in those countries).

Of course Germany took in between 1 and 2 percent of it's entire population in a single year (2015) which Pew didn't count.

[BillB]

On Thursday, February 8, 2018 at 10:55:47 AM UTC-8, fffurken wrote:


> What's that as a number?

Those are real numbers, you dimwit. In 2010 about 4 out of every 100 random people people you meet would be Muslim. In 2017 it would be 5. Big deal. That's what you're calling the childish scare-term "mass Islamic immigration"? No real noticable change = MASS IMMIGRATION?? LOL

>And define Europe, mass Islamic immigration hasn't been the case in all >European countries.

Good Lord...he can't define "mass Islamic immigration" with any specificity, but he needs me to define "Europe" for him. LOL Did I not tell you this guy is a complete moron?

[fffurken]

On Thursday, 8 February 2018 19:51:00 UTC, BillB wrote:
> On Thursday, February 8, 2018 at 10:55:47 AM UTC-8, fffurken wrote:
>
>
> > What's that as a number?
>
> Those are real numbers

lol Once again, you can't answer simple questions. And note, he completely ignored my previous post.. lol Maths always confuses the fuck out of this far left Islamophilic moron, it's like you're speaking a different language.

[Dutch]

Since by definition that word applies to everyone with any sense, then yeah.

[Dutch]

On 2/8/2018 10:39 AM, BillB wrote:
> Again, you are speaking Islamophobic gibberish.

You remind me of Trump, the way he repeats "no collusion" as if saying
something often enough makes it true.

[Dutch]

On 2/7/2018 1:47 AM, BillB wrote:
> On Wednesday, February 7, 2018 at 1:28:34 AM UTC-8, Dutch wrote:
>
>> I thought it was one of the better documentaries on the eventual outcome
>> of multiculturalism when large populations of Muslims are involved. They
>> don't integrate, they mix with other ethnic groups like oil mixes with
>> water.
>
> The only problem I really saw was with the white people. People don't "integrate" when they are made to feel unwelcome. The Muslim people in that video all seemed to experience the palpable hatred toward them.
>
> This happens all over Europe. Muslims face extreme racism from whites, are herded into low income ghettos (which are later deemed "no-go zones" by racists), are denied education and employment opportunities, and eventually turn to violence and crime as an outlet. It's very much the same thing that happened in the US with inner-city ghettos.
>
> Canada hasn't had these problems in Toronto where the Muslim population is approaching 10%. That's because of our multiculturalism. It is made clear to Muslim immigrants from the moment they arrive that their culture will be respected, and that they will in no way be treated as second class citizens, that they will be free to reach their potential, and that they will be legally protected from people like you.
>

Why do you suppose that with all the different ethnic groups in the
world, Islam is the one group that always seems to have conflicts
wherever it goes? I guess the whole world is racist.

[Dutch]

On 2/8/2018 4:23 AM, BillB wrote:
>>> I meant the melting pot is a more useful and successful strategy than
>>> multiculturalism.
>> Gibberish.
> He's speaking gibberish to me, too. He apparently thinks the Canadian Multiculturalism Act is "telling him what to think".

You're contradicting yourself.

You call me as un-Canadian for having negative thoughts about Islam, and
you support that attack by citing the Canadian Multiculturalism Act. If
the Act isn't telling me how to think then how am I un-Canadian for
thinking something that disagrees with it?

Your authoritarian tendencies are showing. I would say that dissent
against the government is the most important Canadian tradition of all.

[fffurken]

On Thursday, 8 February 2018 18:37:07 UTC, BillB wrote:

> I can make one more deduction. The Muslim population in Europe increased from 3.8% in 2010 to 4.9% in 2017. So I do know that you consider a given group's population increasing 0.9%...

lol Spa

Btw, I checked the (s)Pew data and the population of "Europe" (https://tinyurl.com/ybst5ynm) is defined as the population of the (28) EU countries plus Norway and Switzerland.

[fffurken]

On Thursday, 8 February 2018 21:35:42 UTC, Dutch wrote:

> Your authoritarian tendencies are showing.

Are you starting to figure it out?

"It is made clear to Muslim immigrants from the moment they arrive that their culture will be respected, and that they will in no way be treated as second class citizens, that they will be free to reach their potential, and that they will be [legally protected] from people like you."

[] chilling

[fffurken]

On Thursday, 8 February 2018 19:17:25 UTC, BillB wrote:

> Which countries in Europe have no Muslims?

Poland (https://tinyurl.com/yczmazep) would be a good example.

https://www1.cbn.com/cbnnews/cwn/2016/november/poland-declares-jesus-king-of-the-country

[Dutch]

It's comforting to know that the government has vetted all the customs,
practices and beliefs of every foreign culture and declared them to be
above criticism. So much cleaner than allowing people to think for
themselves.