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James Dawson
Aug 15, 2014, 10:55:46 AM8/15/14
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5 card, 7 card and 5 card draw!!
These are the games where people can play when facing other players, and read their reactions, play on their feelings and use that as an edge!! This where people can use mental skills in reading players!!
IMO, this Texas Hold Em is a axiom!! All I see people get two cards, figure which has the best chance and BET OUT!!
I recall, how I would play act with a strong had, back up, and have the person with the weaker hand chasing me!!
Example, playing 5 card stud!! A player raises the pot with a 10 on his hand. I called with a jack in the hole and deuce up!! I hit the jack right to the drop. I check! The player with the 10 takes off a tray! My bet with the jack high, and I check, and here he comes.. I even call again. It take off a 5 and he takes off an 8, jack is still high, so I check again!! Here he comes again! I even call!!On 5th street I get a 9 spot, and they take off a queen!! Their bet! He bets, I raise him to kingdom come!! And say to myself, if that player is that good to play a queen in the hole, he deserves to get paid!! (grin)
This is gambling and poker!! (smile)
These are the games where people can play when facing other players, and read their reactions, play on their feelings and use that as an edge!! This where people can use mental skills in reading players!!
IMO, this Texas Hold Em is a axiom!! All I see people get two cards, figure which has the best chance and BET OUT!!
I recall, how I would play act with a strong had, back up, and have the person with the weaker hand chasing me!!
Example, playing 5 card stud!! A player raises the pot with a 10 on his hand. I called with a jack in the hole and deuce up!! I hit the jack right to the drop. I check! The player with the 10 takes off a tray! My bet with the jack high, and I check, and here he comes.. I even call again. It take off a 5 and he takes off an 8, jack is still high, so I check again!! Here he comes again! I even call!!On 5th street I get a 9 spot, and they take off a queen!! Their bet! He bets, I raise him to kingdom come!! And say to myself, if that player is that good to play a queen in the hole, he deserves to get paid!! (grin)
This is gambling and poker!! (smile)
jcpickel...@hotmail.com
Aug 15, 2014, 12:12:52 PM8/15/14
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James Dawson
Aug 15, 2014, 1:45:38 PM8/15/14
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On Friday, August 15, 2014 12:12:52 PM UTC-4, jcpickel...@hotmail.com wrote:
> The fact that you don't understand the complexities of winning at hold'em merely reinforces the fact that you know very little about poker. Hold'em is far and away the most popular game for good reason. Quit bothering us you phony wanna be cheat. (middle finger)
EAT ME!!
> The fact that you don't understand the complexities of winning at hold'em merely reinforces the fact that you know very little about poker. Hold'em is far and away the most popular game for good reason. Quit bothering us you phony wanna be cheat. (middle finger)
Hold eM is a VARIATION, and SPLIT off of THE REAL GAME OF POKER!!
Just like you are an INBRED/TRASH, and you can put trailer IN FRONT OF THAT!!(middle finger) (5 Times)
Paul Popinjay
Aug 15, 2014, 2:03:09 PM8/15/14
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On Friday, August 15, 2014 10:45:38 AM UTC-7, James Dawson wrote:
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> Hold eM is a VARIATION, and SPLIT off of THE REAL GAME OF POKER!!
>
Hold'em is NOT a variation of nuthin. Hold'em is hold'em. And it is extremely complex. Over your head. Out of your league.
>
> Hold eM is a VARIATION, and SPLIT off of THE REAL GAME OF POKER!!
>
If hold'em is like anything, it is like lowball before the flop, and like draw poker after the flop. And it's usually difficult to 'hold'em', in hold'em. Till the River anyway.
Your story is not new. I saw it many times when the change to hold'em swept over California. Before that it was all draw games, and I knew TOP players who were champs at draw and lowball. But a few years after the conversion, many of them were sitting there with confused looks on their faces, and a small stack of chips. They couldn't cut it. Sound like anyone we know? <hint hint>
But others, smarts ones, did make the change well, and have never looked back, and would not want to go back. Holdem is here to stay. Learn it, or die.
Will in New Haven
Aug 15, 2014, 3:12:00 PM8/15/14
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Bad players are willing to play holdem. The place to make money is where the bad players play. Would it be possible to make more money off them if they were willing to play stud or draw? Yes. It is easier to exploit bad play at those games. However, the games aren't played.
What do yo want people to do, force the suckers to play Draw at gunpoint?
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Will in New Naven
Paul Popinjay
Aug 15, 2014, 10:37:00 PM8/15/14
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On Friday, August 15, 2014 7:55:46 AM UTC-7, James Dawson wrote:
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> Example, playing 5 card stud!! A player raises the pot with a 10 on his hand. I called with a jack in the hole and deuce up!! I hit the jack right to the drop. I check! The player with the 10 takes off a tray! My bet with the jack high, and I check, and here he comes.. I even call again. It take off a 5 and he takes off an 8, jack is still high, so I check again!! Here he comes again! I even call!!On 5th street I get a 9 spot, and they take off a queen!! Their bet! He bets, I raise him to kingdom come!! And say to myself, if that player is that good to play a queen in the hole, he deserves to get paid!! (grin)
>
We were so busy with your ridiculous comments about hold'em that we completely overlooked this ridiculous scenario where you "raised him to kingdom come" on the end in a 5-stud hand. Completely nonsensical. If anything, you CALL on the end, not raise on the end, you idiot. What was he supposed to call your raise with, dumb ass? He calls your raise on the end, IF YOU'RE BEAT.
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> Example, playing 5 card stud!! A player raises the pot with a 10 on his hand. I called with a jack in the hole and deuce up!! I hit the jack right to the drop. I check! The player with the 10 takes off a tray! My bet with the jack high, and I check, and here he comes.. I even call again. It take off a 5 and he takes off an 8, jack is still high, so I check again!! Here he comes again! I even call!!On 5th street I get a 9 spot, and they take off a queen!! Their bet! He bets, I raise him to kingdom come!! And say to myself, if that player is that good to play a queen in the hole, he deserves to get paid!! (grin)
>
Didn't anyone else notice this? Pickle? Will in New Haven? Anyone?
The "great" James Dawson, all his talk about being a great 5-stud player, and he doesn't understand basics.
Opponent: [X]-T-3-8-Q
Dawson: [J]-2-J-5-9
Worst played hand in history. You suck, James.
James Dawson
Aug 15, 2014, 10:42:12 PM8/15/14
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Will, to be more precise,I was using the term in this sense " an non-logical axiom"!
And yes, I would prefer to have BAD PLAYERS play a game where their bad play can be exploited and used against them! In Hold Em, the bad players are protected from superior or better poker players!! A good poker players is going to come out on top more times than a bad poker player playing SKILLFUL GAMES! However, Hold Em is not all that skillful!
And yes, I would prefer to have BAD PLAYERS play a game where their bad play can be exploited and used against them! In Hold Em, the bad players are protected from superior or better poker players!! A good poker players is going to come out on top more times than a bad poker player playing SKILLFUL GAMES! However, Hold Em is not all that skillful!
James Dawson
Aug 15, 2014, 10:47:29 PM8/15/14
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Paul, how is it the worst play in history!! The only way the guy can beat me is to go way out on a limb and hit the queen on 5th street! I had clocked him to have a pair of tens backed up! My play, I have to hit the jack right to the drop in order for me to play any more! If I don't hit the jack, I fold!! Also, they would have to be fool or a cheat to stay in the pot, because I make them put a lot of money in the pot on 4th street!! The odds of them hitting the queen, to the amount of money they have put in the pot, put all the odds on my side!! That is the mark of a good poker player! They might lose that hand, but they are always playing with the odds on their side!
Clave
Aug 15, 2014, 10:51:31 PM8/15/14
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"James Dawson" <billyj...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Will, to be more precise,I was using the term in this sense " an
> non-logical axiom"!
Which, amazingly, makes even less sense.
> non-logical axiom"!
James Dawson
Aug 15, 2014, 10:53:35 PM8/15/14
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All Knowing Clave!!
"a non-logical axiom is not a self-evident truth"
"a non-logical axiom is not a self-evident truth"
Clave
Aug 15, 2014, 11:40:54 PM8/15/14
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> All Knowing Clave!!
Unlike some here, I have an appreciation for what words mean.
> "a non-logical axiom is not a self-evident truth"
Just for shits and giggles, let's look at the equivocation you've done:
"IMO, this Texas Hold Em is a axiom!!"
Misused article aside, this makes no sense. So you tried to correct
yourself. Substituting your correction into your original statement,
"IMO, this Texas Hold Em is an non-logical axiom!!"
Again, misused article aside, this still makes no sense. So you want to fix
it AGAIN. So substituting again, we get:
"IMO, this Texas Hold Em is not a self-evident truth"
Absolute gibberish.
>
> All Knowing Clave!!
Unlike some here, I have an appreciation for what words mean.
> "a non-logical axiom is not a self-evident truth"
"IMO, this Texas Hold Em is a axiom!!"
yourself. Substituting your correction into your original statement,
"IMO, this Texas Hold Em is an non-logical axiom!!"
Again, misused article aside, this still makes no sense. So you want to fix
it AGAIN. So substituting again, we get:
"IMO, this Texas Hold Em is not a self-evident truth"
Absolute gibberish.
Paul Popinjay
Aug 15, 2014, 11:55:54 PM8/15/14
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On Friday, August 15, 2014 7:47:29 PM UTC-7, James Dawson wrote:
> Paul, how is it the worst play in history!! The only way the guy can beat me is to go way out on a limb and hit the queen on 5th street! I had clocked him to have a pair of tens backed up! My play, I have to hit the jack right to the drop in order for me to play any more! If I don't hit the jack, I fold!! Also, they would have to be fool or a cheat to stay in the pot, because I make them put a lot of money in the pot on 4th street!! The odds of them hitting the queen, to the amount of money they have put in the pot, put all the odds on my side!! That is the mark of a good poker player! They might lose that hand, but they are always playing with the odds on their side!
Can't you read, mutherfucker? I said what's he going to call your large raise with on the end? Can you answer that?
> Paul, how is it the worst play in history!! The only way the guy can beat me is to go way out on a limb and hit the queen on 5th street! I had clocked him to have a pair of tens backed up! My play, I have to hit the jack right to the drop in order for me to play any more! If I don't hit the jack, I fold!! Also, they would have to be fool or a cheat to stay in the pot, because I make them put a lot of money in the pot on 4th street!! The odds of them hitting the queen, to the amount of money they have put in the pot, put all the odds on my side!! That is the mark of a good poker player! They might lose that hand, but they are always playing with the odds on their side!
Paul Popinjay
Aug 16, 2014, 12:02:01 AM8/16/14
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On Friday, August 15, 2014 7:42:12 PM UTC-7, James Dawson wrote:
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> And yes, I would prefer to have BAD PLAYERS play a game where their bad play can be exploited and used against them! In Hold Em, the bad players are protected from superior or better poker players!! A good poker players is going to come out on top more times than a bad poker player playing SKILLFUL GAMES! However, Hold Em is not all that skillful!
You don't know what the fuck you're talking about. This entire newsgroup has grown up on hold'em. When we used to discuss poker instead of politics, it was 99% hold'em-related. Only a newbie thinks there's little skill in holdem. You're talking like a newbie. You are a newbie.
>
> And yes, I would prefer to have BAD PLAYERS play a game where their bad play can be exploited and used against them! In Hold Em, the bad players are protected from superior or better poker players!! A good poker players is going to come out on top more times than a bad poker player playing SKILLFUL GAMES! However, Hold Em is not all that skillful!
Clave
Aug 16, 2014, 12:28:17 AM8/16/14
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> All Knowing Clave!!
Unlike some here, I have an appreciation for what words mean.
>
> All Knowing Clave!!
Unlike some here, I have an appreciation for what words mean.
> "a non-logical axiom is not a self-evident truth"
Just for shits and giggles, let's look at the equivocation you've done:
"IMO, this Texas Hold Em is a axiom!!"
Misused article aside, this makes no sense. So you tried to correct
yourself. Substituting your correction into your original statement,
"IMO, this Texas Hold Em is an non-logical axiom!!"
Again, misused article aside, this still makes no sense. So you want to fix
it AGAIN. So substituting again, we get:
"IMO, this Texas Hold Em is not a self-evident truth"
yourself. Substituting your correction into your original statement,
"IMO, this Texas Hold Em is an non-logical axiom!!"
Again, misused article aside, this still makes no sense. So you want to fix
it AGAIN. So substituting again, we get:
Absolute gibberish.
Pepe Papon
Aug 16, 2014, 2:57:44 AM8/16/14
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On Fri, 15 Aug 2014 11:03:09 -0700 (PDT), Paul Popinjay
<paulpo...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>On Friday, August 15, 2014 10:45:38 AM UTC-7, James Dawson wrote:
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>> Hold eM is a VARIATION, and SPLIT off of THE REAL GAME OF POKER!!
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>Hold'em is NOT a variation of nuthin. Hold'em is hold'em. And it is extremely complex. Over your head. Out of your league.
Like Ph.D. level mathematics.
<paulpo...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>On Friday, August 15, 2014 10:45:38 AM UTC-7, James Dawson wrote:
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>
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>> Hold eM is a VARIATION, and SPLIT off of THE REAL GAME OF POKER!!
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>Hold'em is NOT a variation of nuthin. Hold'em is hold'em. And it is extremely complex. Over your head. Out of your league.
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Pepe Papon
Aug 16, 2014, 3:01:38 AM8/16/14
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non-skill game.
This non-skill game is a not self-evident truth!
Clave
Aug 16, 2014, 3:16:53 AM8/16/14
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"Pepe Papon" <hitme...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 15 Aug 2014 20:40:54 -0700, "Clave"
> <ChrisC...@TheMonastery.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>"James Dawson" <billyj...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:2610a881-21a3-4c39...@googlegroups.com...
>>>
>>> All Knowing Clave!!
>>
>>Unlike some here, I have an appreciation for what words mean.
>>
>>
>>> "a non-logical axiom is not a self-evident truth"
>>
>>Just for shits and giggles, let's look at the equivocation you've done:
>>
>> "IMO, this Texas Hold Em is a axiom!!"
>>
>>Misused article aside, this makes no sense. So you tried to correct
>>yourself. Substituting your correction into your original statement,
>>
>> "IMO, this Texas Hold Em is an non-logical axiom!!"
>>
>>Again, misused article aside, this still makes no sense. So you want to
>>fix
>>it AGAIN. So substituting again, we get:
>>
>> "IMO, this Texas Hold Em is not a self-evident truth"
>>
>>Absolute gibberish.
>
> And that's before we get to the nonsense about hold-'em being a
> non-skill game.
>
> This non-skill game is a not self-evident truth!
The self-evident truth of this "non-skill" game is (once again) that he
> <ChrisC...@TheMonastery.com> wrote:
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>>
>>"James Dawson" <billyj...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:2610a881-21a3-4c39...@googlegroups.com...
>>>
>>> All Knowing Clave!!
>>
>>Unlike some here, I have an appreciation for what words mean.
>>
>>
>>> "a non-logical axiom is not a self-evident truth"
>>
>>Just for shits and giggles, let's look at the equivocation you've done:
>>
>> "IMO, this Texas Hold Em is a axiom!!"
>>
>>Misused article aside, this makes no sense. So you tried to correct
>>yourself. Substituting your correction into your original statement,
>>
>> "IMO, this Texas Hold Em is an non-logical axiom!!"
>>
>>Again, misused article aside, this still makes no sense. So you want to
>>fix
>>it AGAIN. So substituting again, we get:
>>
>> "IMO, this Texas Hold Em is not a self-evident truth"
>>
>>Absolute gibberish.
>
> And that's before we get to the nonsense about hold-'em being a
> non-skill game.
>
> This non-skill game is a not self-evident truth!
hasn't figured out how to cheat it.
Will in New Haven
Aug 16, 2014, 9:27:32 AM8/16/14
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T. Bagger
Aug 16, 2014, 7:20:42 PM8/16/14
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On Friday, August 15, 2014 7:55:46 AM UTC-7, James Dawson wrote:
Bea Foroni
Aug 16, 2014, 10:58:42 PM8/16/14
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On Saturday, August 16, 2014 4:20:42 PM UTC-7, T. Bagger wrote:
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> lol. That's the same shit I always hear from weak players too stupid to learn how to play hold'em right.
The first time I played hold'em was because there were no empty 7-stud seats. My first hand was K-7 off. Because it was $1-$2, I stayed pre-flop in a family pot that was capped. The flop gave me trips and again the pot was capped before I could act. The turn was a blank (for me), and again the pot was capped, with half the table going all in, driving the dealer nuts with 5 or 6 side pots. The River was a K, giving me two pairs- of kings! When the action got to me, I raised the only other player with chips. At the Bike there was no cap on heads up, so we two buck bet another $100.
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> lol. That's the same shit I always hear from weak players too stupid to learn how to play hold'em right.
I won a $350 pot. Everyone was to the felt, and because it was late they all went home. I thought, what a stupid game that I could win with K-7. So I vowed never to play it again. Off course, when stud games started to dry up, I was pretty much forced to play Hold'em.
My thoughts; Hold'em is a game of skill and a game of luck. I don't think the skill part is enough to overcome the rake, the tip and the taxes. And the thought of sharing cards with people who don't wash after visiting the toilet, makes me wish there was internet poker.
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Pepe Papon
Aug 17, 2014, 1:34:58 AM8/17/14
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Pepe Papon
Aug 17, 2014, 1:43:23 AM8/17/14
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On Sat, 16 Aug 2014 19:58:42 -0700 (PDT), Bea Foroni
<wilm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Saturday, August 16, 2014 4:20:42 PM UTC-7, T. Bagger wrote:
>
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>> lol. That's the same shit I always hear from weak players too stupid to learn how to play hold'em right.
>
> The first time I played hold'em was because there were no empty 7-stud seats. My first hand was K-7 off. Because it was $1-$2, I stayed pre-flop in a family pot that was capped. The flop gave me trips and again the pot was capped before I could act. The turn was a blank (for me), and again the pot was capped, with half the table going all in, driving the dealer nuts with 5 or 6 side pots. The River was a K, giving me two pairs- of kings! When the action got to me, I raised the only other player with chips. At the Bike there was no cap on heads up, so we two buck bet another $100.
First time I played hold 'em was in 1977 at summer camp. We had a
<wilm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Saturday, August 16, 2014 4:20:42 PM UTC-7, T. Bagger wrote:
>
>>
>> lol. That's the same shit I always hear from weak players too stupid to learn how to play hold'em right.
>
> The first time I played hold'em was because there were no empty 7-stud seats. My first hand was K-7 off. Because it was $1-$2, I stayed pre-flop in a family pot that was capped. The flop gave me trips and again the pot was capped before I could act. The turn was a blank (for me), and again the pot was capped, with half the table going all in, driving the dealer nuts with 5 or 6 side pots. The River was a K, giving me two pairs- of kings! When the action got to me, I raised the only other player with chips. At the Bike there was no cap on heads up, so we two buck bet another $100.
weekly game where we played dealer's choice. Out of the group, there
was one guy who seemed to actually know stuff about poker, and he
liked to talk a lot so I learned a few things from playing with him.
When his deal came up, he'd play hold 'em, which he informed us was
the game they play at the WSOP.
It quickly became my favorite poker game, and I started calling it on
my deal. I only a slight clue about the strategy, but apparently,
that was more than most of the players, because I had a tendency to
win at the game.
The game we played was limit hold'em hi/lo split.
> I won a $350 pot. Everyone was to the felt, and because it was late they all went home. I thought, what a stupid game that I could win with K-7. So I vowed never to play it again. Off course, when stud games started to dry up, I was pretty much forced to play Hold'em.
>
> My thoughts; Hold'em is a game of skill and a game of luck. I don't think the skill part is enough to overcome the rake, the tip and the taxes. And the thought of sharing cards with people who don't wash after visiting the toilet, makes me wish there was internet poker.
>
what I do while I'm playing Internet poker.
Clave
Aug 17, 2014, 2:59:43 AM8/17/14
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And a rather tasty one.
James Dawson
Aug 19, 2014, 8:07:56 AM8/19/14
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On Saturday, August 16, 2014 12:28:17 AM UTC-4, Clave wrote:
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> Absolute gibberish.
Clave, I am not a master of English Words, period!! I was just TRYING to use a word that means "offshoot", or "variation of the real thing".
My point is still valid!! Sure a lot of peeps in this group grew up playing Hold Em! However, you must remember, I am from OLD SCHOOL!! Ala Steve McQueen and Edward G Robinson portrayed in the movie "Cincinnati Kid".. In fact, I RECOMMEND ALL RGP posters to look at the movie "Cincinnati Kid"!
Also, yes there is a way for me to get the "edge/cheat" in that game!! One would first try to put down "paper", preferably "edge work", whereas, the mechanic can see several cards down. Knowing 2 to 3 or more of the cards coming up in the first 5 cards, is a SUPER EDGE IN Hold Em!!
One thing for sure, and I am going to take a BIG SELF PAT ON THE BACK FOR THIS, I got you all DISCUSSING poker!!! That is a BIGGEE!! (grin)
No matter what your views, you all did DISCUSS POKER IN THIS THREAD!! IMO, that is a good thing!!!
On this Paul character, it is plain to see he has a small brain, and from what I hear, has no legs either and really comes off like a DEGENERATE!! One doesn't have to use NAME CALLING and RACIST comments to get their point across, just state your point!!
Another movie picture that describes how I did it, was the "Hustler" with Paul Newman.
If you will notice, both of these movies DESCRIBE and uses the REAL POKER AND POOL games that require SKILL!! The poker games and pool games that we see now, are derived for SPECTATOR APPEAL! In other words, the producers of TV shows, think that the audiences wouldn't take kindly to seeing 5 card stud and straight pool being played on TV!! Why? Because mostly only TRUE EXPERTS COULD UNDERSTAND THEM! The producers know that the average TV viewers are not EXPERTS IN POKER OR POOL!!
Hence, on TV, and the popularity is pushed, you see Hold Em for Poker, and 9 Ball for Pool!! You want to see other games, you would have to go to Youtube!!
Again, you all did DISCUSS poker for a CHANGE, IMO, that is a good thing!!
Cheers,
James
>
> Absolute gibberish.
Clave, I am not a master of English Words, period!! I was just TRYING to use a word that means "offshoot", or "variation of the real thing".
My point is still valid!! Sure a lot of peeps in this group grew up playing Hold Em! However, you must remember, I am from OLD SCHOOL!! Ala Steve McQueen and Edward G Robinson portrayed in the movie "Cincinnati Kid".. In fact, I RECOMMEND ALL RGP posters to look at the movie "Cincinnati Kid"!
Also, yes there is a way for me to get the "edge/cheat" in that game!! One would first try to put down "paper", preferably "edge work", whereas, the mechanic can see several cards down. Knowing 2 to 3 or more of the cards coming up in the first 5 cards, is a SUPER EDGE IN Hold Em!!
One thing for sure, and I am going to take a BIG SELF PAT ON THE BACK FOR THIS, I got you all DISCUSSING poker!!! That is a BIGGEE!! (grin)
No matter what your views, you all did DISCUSS POKER IN THIS THREAD!! IMO, that is a good thing!!!
On this Paul character, it is plain to see he has a small brain, and from what I hear, has no legs either and really comes off like a DEGENERATE!! One doesn't have to use NAME CALLING and RACIST comments to get their point across, just state your point!!
Another movie picture that describes how I did it, was the "Hustler" with Paul Newman.
If you will notice, both of these movies DESCRIBE and uses the REAL POKER AND POOL games that require SKILL!! The poker games and pool games that we see now, are derived for SPECTATOR APPEAL! In other words, the producers of TV shows, think that the audiences wouldn't take kindly to seeing 5 card stud and straight pool being played on TV!! Why? Because mostly only TRUE EXPERTS COULD UNDERSTAND THEM! The producers know that the average TV viewers are not EXPERTS IN POKER OR POOL!!
Hence, on TV, and the popularity is pushed, you see Hold Em for Poker, and 9 Ball for Pool!! You want to see other games, you would have to go to Youtube!!
Again, you all did DISCUSS poker for a CHANGE, IMO, that is a good thing!!
Cheers,
James
Will in New Haven
Aug 19, 2014, 11:05:27 AM8/19/14
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On Tuesday, August 19, 2014 8:07:56 AM UTC-4, James Dawson wrote:
> On Saturday, August 16, 2014 12:28:17 AM UTC-4, Clave wrote:
>
> Again, you all did DISCUSS poker for a CHANGE, IMO, that is a good thing!!
And thanks for that. But you still haven't answered my question. If I have an edge in Holdem but a bigger edge in Draw but the customers want to play Holdem, can I force them to?
> On Saturday, August 16, 2014 12:28:17 AM UTC-4, Clave wrote:
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> Again, you all did DISCUSS poker for a CHANGE, IMO, that is a good thing!!
But, yes, a poker discussion is refreshing.
Clave
Aug 19, 2014, 11:43:20 AM8/19/14
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> On Saturday, August 16, 2014 12:28:17 AM UTC-4, Clave wrote:
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>> Absolute gibberish.
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> Clave, I am not a master of English Words, period!!
Try shutting the fuck up then.
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>> Absolute gibberish.
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> Clave, I am not a master of English Words, period!!
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Aug 19, 2014, 2:22:31 PM8/19/14
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> "Clave" <ChrisC...@TheMonastery.com> wrote in news:lsvr85$hu5$1
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> Meaning: I don't like what you said, bark bark woof woof...
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Tim Norfolk
Aug 19, 2014, 3:10:33 PM8/19/14
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> Will, to be more precise,I was using the term in this sense " an non-logical axiom"!
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> Will, to be more precise,I was using the term in this sense " an non-logical axiom"!
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Which is word salad. That phrase has no meaning at all.
Tim Norfolk
Aug 19, 2014, 3:12:02 PM8/19/14
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> All Knowing Clave!!
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> "a non-logical axiom is not a self-evident truth"
Stick to whatever it is that you supposedly know. This is more word salad. How's this? "A cow is not a self-evident truth".
> All Knowing Clave!!
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> "a non-logical axiom is not a self-evident truth"
James Dawson
Aug 19, 2014, 6:47:48 PM8/19/14
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There is NO FORCING! Maybe this is OLD SCHOOL, but they had what we called "dealer's choice", that mean we play the game the dealer chooses! Or you have a 5 card stud game/table and a 7 card stud game/table!! I would stick with the 5 card and maybe 7 card games, they were easier for me to control! I would ask what game are they playing at so and so's place! After I get my answer, then I would decided to play or not!!
In my latter years a lot of games went the wild card way! Mostly everybody got 5 aces!!
IMO, no skill at all in that, because there are so many cards to get!! Something like playing 7 card stud, and low in the hole wild and all deuces!! Crazy games, and I shyed away from them big time!!
James Dawson
Aug 19, 2014, 6:51:38 PM8/19/14
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Try shutting the fuck up then.
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Clave, don't get mad at me for your LACKING!! (grin)
I am what I said I am and better!!
BTW, tell who ever is twisting your arms to reply to stop!!
Try shutting the fuck up then.
Clave, don't get mad at me for your LACKING!! (grin)
I am what I said I am and better!!
BTW, tell who ever is twisting your arms to reply to stop!!
James Dawson
Aug 19, 2014, 6:57:18 PM8/19/14
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T. Bagger
Wrong T.Bagger, Hold Em is the WEAKER game by a long shot! You just get TWO cars, and 9 out of 10, they beat out and hope for cards! Again, you will never see 5 card and 7 card stud on TV and being popular! Why? Because 5 and 7 card stud is almost like chess, it takes BRAINS to play!! People are not interested in see smart plays, they want fast heart pumping action like when you deal the first 5 cards in Hold Em!
BTW, you don't see too much chess on TV either! No spectator appeal, only to other brainy chess players!! Ditto for 5 card and 7 card stud!!
On Friday, August 15, 2014 7:55:46 AM UTC-7, James Dawson wrote:
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lol. That's the same shit I always hear from weak players too stupid to learn how to play hold'em right.
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Wrong T.Bagger, Hold Em is the WEAKER game by a long shot! You just get TWO cars, and 9 out of 10, they beat out and hope for cards! Again, you will never see 5 card and 7 card stud on TV and being popular! Why? Because 5 and 7 card stud is almost like chess, it takes BRAINS to play!! People are not interested in see smart plays, they want fast heart pumping action like when you deal the first 5 cards in Hold Em!
BTW, you don't see too much chess on TV either! No spectator appeal, only to other brainy chess players!! Ditto for 5 card and 7 card stud!!
James Dawson
Aug 19, 2014, 7:00:25 PM8/19/14
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Couldn't be said any better!! there is more LUCK in Hold Em
Couldn't be said any better!! there is more LUCK in Hold Em
James Dawson
Aug 19, 2014, 7:10:08 PM8/19/14
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Tim, what is with all this "word correct chit"??
This the INTERNET!! The first thing creeps like you, yes, creeps like you do, when they have got their chops busted is to go for somebody jiveazz spelling, grammar or whatever!!
You know what I am talking about, so that double flip flop chit don't mean jack!! I am talking about REAL POKER PLAYING!! Way before there was an internet that had all kinds of newsgroups! So, can all that grammar chit, we not in school here for English!!
Tim, what is with all this "word correct chit"??
This the INTERNET!! The first thing creeps like you, yes, creeps like you do, when they have got their chops busted is to go for somebody jiveazz spelling, grammar or whatever!!
You know what I am talking about, so that double flip flop chit don't mean jack!! I am talking about REAL POKER PLAYING!! Way before there was an internet that had all kinds of newsgroups! So, can all that grammar chit, we not in school here for English!!
James Dawson
Aug 19, 2014, 7:14:06 PM8/19/14
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Well, in my humble old opinion, you are a self-evident-dipchit!! And that is WORD SAVVY in its purest form!!!
Well, in my humble old opinion, you are a self-evident-dipchit!! And that is WORD SAVVY in its purest form!!!
Paul Popinjay
Aug 19, 2014, 7:15:13 PM8/19/14
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> Maybe this is OLD SCHOOL, but they had what we called "dealer's choice", that mean we play the game the dealer chooses!
What a novel idea. None of us have ever thought of that before. Hmmm, "dealer's choice", brilliant, why didn't I ever think of something like that? You "old school" people are so much smarter than us younger guys.
>
> Maybe this is OLD SCHOOL, but they had what we called "dealer's choice", that mean we play the game the dealer chooses!
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Paul Popinjay
Aug 19, 2014, 7:37:47 PM8/19/14
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> Play Dealer's Choice. When it's your deal, play Draw.
Bigger position edge with hold'em. Of course, one would have to understand hold'em, which let's out Dawsun the Morun.
And please not let anyone forget that this idiot didn't even understand a basic hand of 5-stud, the game he proudly claims to be expert at, when he painted the ridiculous scenario where he made a large raise on the end against his opponent's Queen when he had a pair of Tens. Dawson apparently thinks he brushed that under the rug when I called him on it. Dawson's not an expert on any game, even the "real" games.
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> Play Dealer's Choice. When it's your deal, play Draw.
Bigger position edge with hold'em. Of course, one would have to understand hold'em, which let's out Dawsun the Morun.
And please not let anyone forget that this idiot didn't even understand a basic hand of 5-stud, the game he proudly claims to be expert at, when he painted the ridiculous scenario where he made a large raise on the end against his opponent's Queen when he had a pair of Tens. Dawson apparently thinks he brushed that under the rug when I called him on it. Dawson's not an expert on any game, even the "real" games.
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Paul Popinjay
Aug 19, 2014, 7:53:56 PM8/19/14
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> This the INTERNET!! The first thing creeps like you, yes, creeps like you do, when they have got their chops busted is to go for somebody jiveazz spelling, grammar or whatever!!
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> You know what I am talking about, so that double flip flop chit don't mean jack!! I am talking about REAL POKER PLAYING!! Way before there was an internet that had all kinds of newsgroups! So, can all that grammar chit, we not in school here for English!!
There is some degree of truth to what you say but it is painfully obvious that there is a direct correlation between your poor grammar and your low intelligence. Say what you want about RGP, as a group these people have way above average intelligence, and that is why they have so roundly mocked you and laughed at you, because they recognize you for a person of subpar intelligence.
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> This the INTERNET!! The first thing creeps like you, yes, creeps like you do, when they have got their chops busted is to go for somebody jiveazz spelling, grammar or whatever!!
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> You know what I am talking about, so that double flip flop chit don't mean jack!! I am talking about REAL POKER PLAYING!! Way before there was an internet that had all kinds of newsgroups! So, can all that grammar chit, we not in school here for English!!
Paul Popinjay
Aug 19, 2014, 8:00:52 PM8/19/14
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> I will let him speak for himself on those matters. <g>
Did you see the post I'm talking about? The one where he "milks" the guy along, just calling with his pair hidden Jacks, and then, as he says, he "raised to kingdom come" when his opponent hit a Queen on the end? It's ridiculous. He stands to be called for the large bet only if he is beaten. He's too stupid to recognize this basic aspect of all poker games.
By the way, I mentioned his "pair of tens" above, my mistake, it was Jacks. It was his OPPONENT who had the Ten in the door.
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> I will let him speak for himself on those matters. <g>
Did you see the post I'm talking about? The one where he "milks" the guy along, just calling with his pair hidden Jacks, and then, as he says, he "raised to kingdom come" when his opponent hit a Queen on the end? It's ridiculous. He stands to be called for the large bet only if he is beaten. He's too stupid to recognize this basic aspect of all poker games.
By the way, I mentioned his "pair of tens" above, my mistake, it was Jacks. It was his OPPONENT who had the Ten in the door.
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Aug 19, 2014, 9:50:32 PM8/19/14
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> It seems like the folks here are correct re claving. ;-)
So don't. Ain't like you'll be missed.
> James Dawson <billyj...@gmail.com> wrote in news:b58028da-e066-
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So don't. Ain't like you'll be missed.
James Dawson
Aug 19, 2014, 9:52:29 PM8/19/14
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Sub Par Intelligence??
We talking about POKER!! My intelligence was at a level that allowed me to play over top people at the game of poker, and they never knew what hit them!! No matter what you say, that is a ART FORM!!
This is not a GRAMMAR NEWSGROUP!! And I am surely not a grammar or spelling expert!But, as any fair minded person would say, what does grammar have to do with anything being said in this newsgroup?
Just because this is YOUR LIFE, don't think it is our life too!!
My intelligence as far as gambling and playing poker is so far above you, I would need a telescope to see how far down the line you are! And that goes for a lot of others around here too! Not my fault, you all have NEVER been exposed to the REAL THING, so when it does show up, you all don't believe it! Why? Because you all never experienced this level before!! In explaining smart moves at the poker table, all I get back is BS!! Why again? Because that is the level of intelligence on the areas of poker and card mechanics, where I am/was an expert!! I had to be or I wouldn't eat!!
Mind you, I did this for a living! This is what I did to pay my bills, trade cars every year, and keep money in my pocket!! Yes, I hear all the disbelief around here, but the poeple around here, can talk all about what they know about playing poker, play poker from a card mechanic's view, but NONE OF THEM DID IT FOR A LIVING!! My knowledge whether they want to admit it or not, is so far over them on these subjects it is really funny!!
But, this is the internet, no faces, no showing hard proof, just people posting!! All well and good!! but, when dipchits that don't know jack, want to pretend they know jack by correcting grammar and spelling, it is laughable!!
The point I made about Spectator games opposed to REAL GAMES flew over top most of the posters here, heads!!
Paul, just do me a favor, and S T F U!!
Sub Par Intelligence??
We talking about POKER!! My intelligence was at a level that allowed me to play over top people at the game of poker, and they never knew what hit them!! No matter what you say, that is a ART FORM!!
This is not a GRAMMAR NEWSGROUP!! And I am surely not a grammar or spelling expert!But, as any fair minded person would say, what does grammar have to do with anything being said in this newsgroup?
Just because this is YOUR LIFE, don't think it is our life too!!
My intelligence as far as gambling and playing poker is so far above you, I would need a telescope to see how far down the line you are! And that goes for a lot of others around here too! Not my fault, you all have NEVER been exposed to the REAL THING, so when it does show up, you all don't believe it! Why? Because you all never experienced this level before!! In explaining smart moves at the poker table, all I get back is BS!! Why again? Because that is the level of intelligence on the areas of poker and card mechanics, where I am/was an expert!! I had to be or I wouldn't eat!!
Mind you, I did this for a living! This is what I did to pay my bills, trade cars every year, and keep money in my pocket!! Yes, I hear all the disbelief around here, but the poeple around here, can talk all about what they know about playing poker, play poker from a card mechanic's view, but NONE OF THEM DID IT FOR A LIVING!! My knowledge whether they want to admit it or not, is so far over them on these subjects it is really funny!!
But, this is the internet, no faces, no showing hard proof, just people posting!! All well and good!! but, when dipchits that don't know jack, want to pretend they know jack by correcting grammar and spelling, it is laughable!!
The point I made about Spectator games opposed to REAL GAMES flew over top most of the posters here, heads!!
Paul, just do me a favor, and S T F U!!
Paul Popinjay
Aug 19, 2014, 9:57:42 PM8/19/14
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> I saw that re the Queen hitting on the end.
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> But couldn't the foe have tens, and call him for a bluff?
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> I would have checked the jacks.
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It wasn't an issue of checking with the Jacks, it was a CALL. But our "hero" made a large raise. Dawson had nothing showing to bluff with with. A bluff is illogical. In fact, Dawson said something to the effect that if his opponent had stayed in all that way with a Queen in the hole, he was just going to have to take the pot. But his opponent would do more than that, his opponent would RE-RAISE with a lock. Dawson is a fucking idiot, a 74-year-old amateur.
If the opponent had caught a smaller and non-pairing card on the end, THEN Dawson's big raise could possibly be perceived as a bluff. God, this is just basic poker. Beginner's poker. Sheesh.
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> I saw that re the Queen hitting on the end.
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> But couldn't the foe have tens, and call him for a bluff?
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> I would have checked the jacks.
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It wasn't an issue of checking with the Jacks, it was a CALL. But our "hero" made a large raise. Dawson had nothing showing to bluff with with. A bluff is illogical. In fact, Dawson said something to the effect that if his opponent had stayed in all that way with a Queen in the hole, he was just going to have to take the pot. But his opponent would do more than that, his opponent would RE-RAISE with a lock. Dawson is a fucking idiot, a 74-year-old amateur.
If the opponent had caught a smaller and non-pairing card on the end, THEN Dawson's big raise could possibly be perceived as a bluff. God, this is just basic poker. Beginner's poker. Sheesh.
Clave
Aug 19, 2014, 10:04:13 PM8/19/14
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> Paul, just do me a favor, and S T F U!!
Paul Popinjay
Aug 19, 2014, 10:04:06 PM8/19/14
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> Sub Par Intelligence??
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> We talking about POKER!! My intelligence was at a level that allowed me to play over top people at the game of poker, and they never knew what hit them!! No matter what you say, that is a ART FORM!!
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> This is not a GRAMMAR NEWSGROUP!! And I am surely not a grammar or spelling expert!But, as any fair minded person would say, what does grammar have to do with anything being said in this newsgroup?
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> Just because this is YOUR LIFE, don't think it is our life too!!
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> My intelligence as far as gambling and playing poker is so far above you, I would need a telescope to see how far down the line you are! And that goes for a lot of others around here too! Not my fault, you all have NEVER been exposed to the REAL THING, so when it does show up, you all don't believe it! Why? Because you all never experienced this level before!! In explaining smart moves at the poker table, all I get back is BS!! Why again? Because that is the level of intelligence on the areas of poker and card mechanics, where I am/was an expert!! I had to be or I wouldn't eat!!
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> Mind you, I did this for a living! This is what I did to pay my bills, trade cars every year, and keep money in my pocket!! Yes, I hear all the disbelief around here, but the poeple around here, can talk all about what they know about playing poker, play poker from a card mechanic's view, but NONE OF THEM DID IT FOR A LIVING!! My knowledge whether they want to admit it or not, is so far over them on these subjects it is really funny!!
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> But, this is the internet, no faces, no showing hard proof, just people posting!! All well and good!! but, when dipchits that don't know jack, want to pretend they know jack by correcting grammar and spelling, it is laughable!!
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> The point I made about Spectator games opposed to REAL GAMES flew over top most of the posters here, heads!!
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> Paul, just do me a favor, and S T F U!!
But you can't even see through the illogic of making that large raise in the 5-stud hand you described, and that's the game you're supposed to be so great at. Basic poker, you dope. Your play was to call, not raise. It was an entirely stupid raise. Which fits, because you're an entirely stupid person.
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> Sub Par Intelligence??
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> We talking about POKER!! My intelligence was at a level that allowed me to play over top people at the game of poker, and they never knew what hit them!! No matter what you say, that is a ART FORM!!
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> This is not a GRAMMAR NEWSGROUP!! And I am surely not a grammar or spelling expert!But, as any fair minded person would say, what does grammar have to do with anything being said in this newsgroup?
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> Just because this is YOUR LIFE, don't think it is our life too!!
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>
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> My intelligence as far as gambling and playing poker is so far above you, I would need a telescope to see how far down the line you are! And that goes for a lot of others around here too! Not my fault, you all have NEVER been exposed to the REAL THING, so when it does show up, you all don't believe it! Why? Because you all never experienced this level before!! In explaining smart moves at the poker table, all I get back is BS!! Why again? Because that is the level of intelligence on the areas of poker and card mechanics, where I am/was an expert!! I had to be or I wouldn't eat!!
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> Mind you, I did this for a living! This is what I did to pay my bills, trade cars every year, and keep money in my pocket!! Yes, I hear all the disbelief around here, but the poeple around here, can talk all about what they know about playing poker, play poker from a card mechanic's view, but NONE OF THEM DID IT FOR A LIVING!! My knowledge whether they want to admit it or not, is so far over them on these subjects it is really funny!!
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> But, this is the internet, no faces, no showing hard proof, just people posting!! All well and good!! but, when dipchits that don't know jack, want to pretend they know jack by correcting grammar and spelling, it is laughable!!
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> The point I made about Spectator games opposed to REAL GAMES flew over top most of the posters here, heads!!
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> Paul, just do me a favor, and S T F U!!
Next subject. How many people do you think make a living off of hold'em nowadays? Huh, idiot? PLENTY, that's how many. You fucking dunce.
James Dawson
Aug 19, 2014, 10:05:22 PM8/19/14
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Paul Popinjay <paulpo...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in
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up) in a big pot, the guy that ran the game, had a 7 showing, and
the best he could have was 75123.(which he had)
I checked a 7-4, and he bet the pot. We couldn't check and raise,
but could check and call.
The sad part of this sea story is the guy was $300 short of his
bet, and promised to pay on payday.
He got transferred and I got fucked for $300.
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vi, on that hand I mentioned, when I clocked the guy having backe up Tens, and I hit the jack to the drop! I made him put a big chunk of his money in the pot on 4 street!! Also, with him taking the queen off and hitting it, he would have to have been playing "paper" on me!! Because people don't stick their money in the pot for something like a 50 to 1 shot!! Also, you noted, I said, if he played that good to hit the queen through all that he deserved to be paid!!! But, I clocked him right!! He was backed with Tens!! My play was the only way I stay was I would have to hit the jack to the drop, and he couldn't take off a card higher than the jack!! He could have been raising with a A, K or Queen in the hole!!
I always played sky limit, and you can check and raise!!
In that low ball hand, how could the best he have be a 75213, when you said, only the 7 was showing?
Paul Popinjay <paulpo...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in
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I saw that re the Queen hitting on the end.
But couldn't the foe have tens, and call him for a bluff?
I would have checked the jacks.
In a game of 6 card lowball stud aboard ship,(two down and four
But couldn't the foe have tens, and call him for a bluff?
I would have checked the jacks.
up) in a big pot, the guy that ran the game, had a 7 showing, and
the best he could have was 75123.(which he had)
I checked a 7-4, and he bet the pot. We couldn't check and raise,
but could check and call.
The sad part of this sea story is the guy was $300 short of his
bet, and promised to pay on payday.
He got transferred and I got fucked for $300.
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vi, on that hand I mentioned, when I clocked the guy having backe up Tens, and I hit the jack to the drop! I made him put a big chunk of his money in the pot on 4 street!! Also, with him taking the queen off and hitting it, he would have to have been playing "paper" on me!! Because people don't stick their money in the pot for something like a 50 to 1 shot!! Also, you noted, I said, if he played that good to hit the queen through all that he deserved to be paid!!! But, I clocked him right!! He was backed with Tens!! My play was the only way I stay was I would have to hit the jack to the drop, and he couldn't take off a card higher than the jack!! He could have been raising with a A, K or Queen in the hole!!
I always played sky limit, and you can check and raise!!
In that low ball hand, how could the best he have be a 75213, when you said, only the 7 was showing?
James Dawson
Aug 19, 2014, 10:10:30 PM8/19/14
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Clave
Donkson, don't get mad at Paul for your LACKING!!! (grin)
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I get mad at Paul for his low lifed racist namecalling and racist cracks!!
Clave, I ain't lacking worth a dam!! (big grin)
I am blessed at my age!
Not only that, picture this!! Picture everything I have said I done to be true, even more so!! Just for a moment!! When you do that, then you know how I feel!!
I really take to all the compliments of disbelief that I get here, and yours is one of the best!!
thanks
James
Donkson, don't get mad at Paul for your LACKING!!! (grin)
I get mad at Paul for his low lifed racist namecalling and racist cracks!!
Clave, I ain't lacking worth a dam!! (big grin)
I am blessed at my age!
Not only that, picture this!! Picture everything I have said I done to be true, even more so!! Just for a moment!! When you do that, then you know how I feel!!
I really take to all the compliments of disbelief that I get here, and yours is one of the best!!
thanks
James
Clave
Aug 19, 2014, 10:14:37 PM8/19/14
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> Clave
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> Donkson, don't get mad at Paul for your LACKING!!! (grin)
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> I get mad at Paul for his low lifed racist namecalling and racist cracks!!
Whoosh, and no surprise there.
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> Donkson, don't get mad at Paul for your LACKING!!! (grin)
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> I get mad at Paul for his low lifed racist namecalling and racist cracks!!
Tim Norfolk
Aug 19, 2014, 10:16:06 PM8/19/14
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Because you are trying to use fancy words (incorrectly) to sound impressive or important, and your bluff is being called by several of us.
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> Tim, what is with all this "word correct chit"??
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> This the INTERNET!! The first thing creeps like you, yes, creeps like you do, when they have got their chops busted is to go for somebody jiveazz spelling, grammar or whatever!!
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> Tim, what is with all this "word correct chit"??
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> This the INTERNET!! The first thing creeps like you, yes, creeps like you do, when they have got their chops busted is to go for somebody jiveazz spelling, grammar or whatever!!
>
Because you are trying to use fancy words (incorrectly) to sound impressive or important, and your bluff is being called by several of us.
Paul Popinjay
Aug 19, 2014, 10:19:28 PM8/19/14
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> Also, you noted, I said, if he played that good to hit the queen through all that he deserved to be paid!!!
But you weren't just going to PAY him, you RAISED him, you fucking dumb pickaninny, you can't even follow the discussion. You don't hear what anyone but yourself is saying like you can't hear for the noise of your big flapping lips. If he did have a Queen in the hole, he didn't just get paid off, he hit the fucking jackpot because an ignoramus Amos like you "raised him to kingdom come". BASIC! Poker 101.
> Also, you noted, I said, if he played that good to hit the queen through all that he deserved to be paid!!!
Paul Popinjay
Aug 19, 2014, 10:22:18 PM8/19/14
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> vi, on that hand I mentioned,
FOR THE SECOND TIME, HIS NAME IS NOT VI, you dumb ape. His name is VINCE. I told you that before. Have you ever met anyone named Vi? Get the fuck oudda here. What a pretender.
Paul Popinjay
Aug 19, 2014, 10:28:08 PM8/19/14
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> I get mad at Paul for his low lifed racist namecalling and racist cracks!!
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What are you doing trying to impress people on a newsgroup for when you could be enjoying yourself in Ferguson tonight, trying out your new dance moves, like the Tear Gas Two Step.
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> I get mad at Paul for his low lifed racist namecalling and racist cracks!!
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Paul Popinjay
Aug 19, 2014, 10:41:13 PM8/19/14
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On Tuesday, August 19, 2014 7:05:22 PM UTC-7, James Dawson wrote:
>
> In that low ball hand, how could the best he have be a 75213, when you said, only the 7 was showing?
Holy FUCK!!! Mister Poker. What's wrong, Mister Poker, isn't lowball one of your games?
>
> In that low ball hand, how could the best he have be a 75213, when you said, only the 7 was showing?
Vince said his opponent had a 7 showing and the best he could have is 75ABC, and you can't figure out how that could happen. What a brain, you are a fucking genius.
How about this scenario, Mario? [23]75AK
Think about it, dumb fuck. And I want to hear how you're going to say racism made you come up with something that stupid. You're a total amateur, which is sad, because you're 74 years old and don't have much time to work on becoming a pro.
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Paul Popinjay
Aug 19, 2014, 10:48:18 PM8/19/14
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On Tuesday, August 19, 2014 7:43:28 PM UTC-7, vi...@hush.ai wrote:
> James Dawson <billyj...@gmail.com> wrote in
>
>
> James Dawson <billyj...@gmail.com> wrote in
>
>
> > In that low ball hand, how could the best he have be a 75213,
>
> > when you said, only the 7 was showing?
>
>
>
> I said he had a 7 showing. 4 cards are face up. So, with 7 5 3 K
>
> > when you said, only the 7 was showing?
>
>
>
>
> showing, he would have to have an ace deuce in the hole, and still
>
> couldn't beat my 7-4. My hand was a cinch.
>
> I believed if I had bet hundreds, he would have squirmed for
>
> awhile, and mucked his hand.
That's an interesting check and call you made, which can only be justified by you knowing your opponent. Sounds like you did. Good play.
By the way, I guess 6-stud lowball isn't one of Jame's "real poker games". LOL
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Paul Popinjay
Aug 20, 2014, 12:15:32 AM8/20/14
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On Tuesday, August 19, 2014 8:40:46 PM UTC-7, vi...@hush.ai wrote:
> I tried Razz
>
> online, but that extra card gives the sucka a better chance, and
>
> takes the skill out of the game, IMO.
>
Not less skill, just a different skill set. Every game has its own nuances, and no doubt can be played at a "world class level".
> I tried Razz
>
> online, but that extra card gives the sucka a better chance, and
>
> takes the skill out of the game, IMO.
>
Not less skill, just a different skill set. Every game has its own nuances, and no doubt can be played at a "world class level".
Pepe Papon
Aug 20, 2014, 1:39:04 AM8/20/14
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On Tue, 19 Aug 2014 05:07:56 -0700 (PDT), James Dawson
<billyj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>My point is still valid!! Sure a lot of peeps in this group grew up playing Hold Em! However, you must remember, I am from OLD SCHOOL!! Ala Steve McQueen and Edward G Robinson portrayed in the movie "Cincinnati Kid".. In fact, I RECOMMEND ALL RGP posters to look at the movie "Cincinnati Kid"!
Is Doyle Brunson old school enough for you?:
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Prior to poker becoming widely televised, the movie Rounders (1998),
starring Matt Damon and Edward Norton, gave moviegoers a romantic view
of the game as a way of life. Texas hold 'em was the main game played
during the movie and the no-limit variety was described, following
Doyle Brunson, as the "Cadillac of Poker."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_hold_'em
-----------
No Limit Texas Hold �em poker, has long been given the nickname the
�Cadillac of Poker�. Poker professional and champion player Dan
Harrington claims that �few players understand why the game deserves
that reputation� (12). Harrington in his and Bill Roberties Book
�Harrington on Hold �em� claims that Hold �em strikes perfect the
balance between �too much� and �too little� information given allowing
for better players to use deceptive and strategic tactics to force
their opponents to make marginal errors (13).
http://michaelhall2010.wordpress.com/2010/09/09/the-cadillac-of-poker/
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<billyj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>My point is still valid!! Sure a lot of peeps in this group grew up playing Hold Em! However, you must remember, I am from OLD SCHOOL!! Ala Steve McQueen and Edward G Robinson portrayed in the movie "Cincinnati Kid".. In fact, I RECOMMEND ALL RGP posters to look at the movie "Cincinnati Kid"!
Is Doyle Brunson old school enough for you?:
-----------
Prior to poker becoming widely televised, the movie Rounders (1998),
starring Matt Damon and Edward Norton, gave moviegoers a romantic view
of the game as a way of life. Texas hold 'em was the main game played
during the movie and the no-limit variety was described, following
Doyle Brunson, as the "Cadillac of Poker."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_hold_'em
-----------
No Limit Texas Hold �em poker, has long been given the nickname the
�Cadillac of Poker�. Poker professional and champion player Dan
Harrington claims that �few players understand why the game deserves
that reputation� (12). Harrington in his and Bill Roberties Book
�Harrington on Hold �em� claims that Hold �em strikes perfect the
balance between �too much� and �too little� information given allowing
for better players to use deceptive and strategic tactics to force
their opponents to make marginal errors (13).
http://michaelhall2010.wordpress.com/2010/09/09/the-cadillac-of-poker/
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Paul Popinjay
Aug 20, 2014, 1:46:34 AM8/20/14
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On Tuesday, August 19, 2014 10:39:04 PM UTC-7, Pepe Papon wrote:
>
> -----------
>
> No Limit Texas Hold �em poker, has long been given the nickname the
>
> �Cadillac of Poker�. Poker professional and champion player Dan
>
> Harrington claims that �few players understand why the game deserves
>
> that reputation� (12). Harrington in his and Bill Roberties Book
>
> �Harrington on Hold �em� claims that Hold �em strikes perfect the
>
> balance between �too much� and �too little� information given allowing
>
> for better players to use deceptive and strategic tactics to force
>
> their opponents to make marginal errors (13).
>
>
>
> http://michaelhall2010.wordpress.com/2010/09/09/the-cadillac-of-poker/
>
Who is "MHall"? Why do I think I know who that is but can't put my finger on it? Does he have another "handle"?
>
> -----------
>
> No Limit Texas Hold �em poker, has long been given the nickname the
>
> �Cadillac of Poker�. Poker professional and champion player Dan
>
> Harrington claims that �few players understand why the game deserves
>
> that reputation� (12). Harrington in his and Bill Roberties Book
>
> �Harrington on Hold �em� claims that Hold �em strikes perfect the
>
> balance between �too much� and �too little� information given allowing
>
> for better players to use deceptive and strategic tactics to force
>
> their opponents to make marginal errors (13).
>
>
>
> http://michaelhall2010.wordpress.com/2010/09/09/the-cadillac-of-poker/
>
Pepe Papon
Aug 20, 2014, 2:04:01 AM8/20/14
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On Tue, 19 Aug 2014 16:10:08 -0700 (PDT), James Dawson
<billyj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>Tim Norfolk
>On Friday, August 15, 2014 10:42:12 PM UTC-4, James Dawson wrote:
>> Will, to be more precise,I was using the term in this sense " an non-logical axiom"!
>>
><snip>
>
>Which is word salad. That phrase has no meaning at all.
>---------------------------
cabinet.
<billyj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>Tim Norfolk
>On Friday, August 15, 2014 10:42:12 PM UTC-4, James Dawson wrote:
>> Will, to be more precise,I was using the term in this sense " an non-logical axiom"!
>>
><snip>
>
>Which is word salad. That phrase has no meaning at all.
>---------------------------
>
>Tim, what is with all this "word correct chit"??
I agree. Correct words are an artichoke. Don't be such a file
>Tim, what is with all this "word correct chit"??
cabinet.
Pepe Papon
Aug 20, 2014, 2:11:46 AM8/20/14
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On Tue, 19 Aug 2014 16:00:25 -0700 (PDT), James Dawson
<billyj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>there is more LUCK in Hold Em
Such bullshit. Let's see you try and explain why there's less luck in
5 stud than in hold 'em.
<billyj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>there is more LUCK in Hold Em
Such bullshit. Let's see you try and explain why there's less luck in
5 stud than in hold 'em.
Clave
Aug 20, 2014, 2:19:19 AM8/20/14
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"Pepe Papon" <hitme...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:2ge8v9po4j229ntdb...@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 19 Aug 2014 16:10:08 -0700 (PDT), James Dawson
> <billyj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Tim Norfolk
>>On Friday, August 15, 2014 10:42:12 PM UTC-4, James Dawson wrote:
>>> Will, to be more precise,I was using the term in this sense " an
>>> non-logical axiom"!
>>>
>><snip>
>>
>>Which is word salad. That phrase has no meaning at all.
>>---------------------------
>>
>>Tim, what is with all this "word correct chit"??
>
> I agree. Correct words are an artichoke. Don't be such a file
> cabinet.
Most sentences too many verbs also too.
> <billyj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Tim Norfolk
>>On Friday, August 15, 2014 10:42:12 PM UTC-4, James Dawson wrote:
>>> Will, to be more precise,I was using the term in this sense " an
>>> non-logical axiom"!
>>>
>><snip>
>>
>>Which is word salad. That phrase has no meaning at all.
>>---------------------------
>>
>>Tim, what is with all this "word correct chit"??
>
> I agree. Correct words are an artichoke. Don't be such a file
> cabinet.
Paul Popinjay
Aug 20, 2014, 2:33:54 AM8/20/14
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homoind...@gmail.com
Aug 20, 2014, 6:40:49 AM8/20/14
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James Dawson wrote,
>! Also, with him taking the queen off and hitting >it, he would have to have been playing "paper" >on me!! Because people don't stick their money >in the pot for something like a 50 to 1 shot!!
I guess math ain't your strong suit either.
>! Also, with him taking the queen off and hitting >it, he would have to have been playing "paper" >on me!! Because people don't stick their money >in the pot for something like a 50 to 1 shot!!
Will in New Haven
Aug 20, 2014, 8:37:45 AM8/20/14
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On Tuesday, August 19, 2014 6:47:48 PM UTC-4, James Dawson wrote:
> 11:05 AMWill in New Haven
>
> On Tuesday, August 19, 2014 8:07:56 AM UTC-4, James Dawson wrote:
>
> > On Saturday, August 16, 2014 12:28:17 AM UTC-4, Clave wrote:
>
> >
>
>
>
> > Again, you all did DISCUSS poker for a CHANGE, IMO, that is a good thing!!
>
>
>
> And thanks for that. But you still haven't answered my question. If I have an edge in Holdem but a bigger edge in Draw but the customers want to play Holdem, can I force them to?
>
>
>
> But, yes, a poker discussion is refreshing.
>
>
>
> --
>
> Will in New Haven
>
> -------------------------
>
>
>
>
>
> There is NO FORCING! Maybe this is OLD SCHOOL, but they had what we called "dealer's choice", that mean we play the game the dealer chooses! Or you have a 5 card stud game/table and a 7 card stud game/table!! I would stick with the 5 card and maybe 7 card games, they were easier for me to control! I would ask what game are they playing at so and so's place! After I get my answer, then I would decided to play or not!!
>
>
>
> In my latter years a lot of games went the wild card way! Mostly everybody got 5 aces!!
>
> IMO, no skill at all in that, because there are so many cards to get!! Something like playing 7 card stud, and low in the hole wild and all deuces!! Crazy games, and I shyed away from them big time!!
Up to a point, there is a lot of profit in being at a wild-card game with bad players, who are always profitable to have around, and otherwise decent players who won't make the proper adjustments to the different game.
--
Will in New Haven
> 11:05 AMWill in New Haven
>
> On Tuesday, August 19, 2014 8:07:56 AM UTC-4, James Dawson wrote:
>
> > On Saturday, August 16, 2014 12:28:17 AM UTC-4, Clave wrote:
>
> >
>
>
>
> > Again, you all did DISCUSS poker for a CHANGE, IMO, that is a good thing!!
>
>
>
> And thanks for that. But you still haven't answered my question. If I have an edge in Holdem but a bigger edge in Draw but the customers want to play Holdem, can I force them to?
>
>
>
> But, yes, a poker discussion is refreshing.
>
>
>
> --
>
> Will in New Haven
>
> -------------------------
>
>
>
>
>
> There is NO FORCING! Maybe this is OLD SCHOOL, but they had what we called "dealer's choice", that mean we play the game the dealer chooses! Or you have a 5 card stud game/table and a 7 card stud game/table!! I would stick with the 5 card and maybe 7 card games, they were easier for me to control! I would ask what game are they playing at so and so's place! After I get my answer, then I would decided to play or not!!
>
>
>
> In my latter years a lot of games went the wild card way! Mostly everybody got 5 aces!!
>
> IMO, no skill at all in that, because there are so many cards to get!! Something like playing 7 card stud, and low in the hole wild and all deuces!! Crazy games, and I shyed away from them big time!!
Up to a point, there is a lot of profit in being at a wild-card game with bad players, who are always profitable to have around, and otherwise decent players who won't make the proper adjustments to the different game.
--
Will in New Haven
Paul Popinjay
Aug 20, 2014, 10:03:44 AM8/20/14
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Tim Norfolk
Aug 20, 2014, 10:28:23 AM8/20/14
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On Wednesday, August 20, 2014 2:04:01 AM UTC-4, Pepe Papon wrote:
> On Tue, 19 Aug 2014 16:10:08 -0700 (PDT), James Dawson
>
> <billyj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> >Tim Norfolk
>
> >On Friday, August 15, 2014 10:42:12 PM UTC-4, James Dawson wrote:
>
> >> Will, to be more precise,I was using the term in this sense " an non-logical axiom"!
>
> >>
>
> ><snip>
>
> >
>
> >Which is word salad. That phrase has no meaning at all.
>
> >---------------------------
>
> >
>
> >Tim, what is with all this "word correct chit"??
>
>
>
> I agree. Correct words are an artichoke. Don't be such a file
> cabinet.
>
<snip>
> On Tue, 19 Aug 2014 16:10:08 -0700 (PDT), James Dawson
>
> <billyj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> >Tim Norfolk
>
> >On Friday, August 15, 2014 10:42:12 PM UTC-4, James Dawson wrote:
>
> >> Will, to be more precise,I was using the term in this sense " an non-logical axiom"!
>
> >>
>
> ><snip>
>
> >
>
> >Which is word salad. That phrase has no meaning at all.
>
> >---------------------------
>
> >
>
> >Tim, what is with all this "word correct chit"??
>
>
>
> I agree. Correct words are an artichoke. Don't be such a file
> cabinet.
>
That's right. Forcing people to use the correct words does choke artistic expression.
James Dawson
Aug 20, 2014, 1:11:09 PM8/20/14
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Tim, I don't need to IMPRESS one living azz!! However, you all have COMPLIMENTED me to the highest order! You and others disbelief in what was normal to me, is one of the highest compliments I could ever get!! You can understand that for sure!!
James Dawson
Aug 20, 2014, 1:15:56 PM8/20/14
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So, S T F U, and what do you know of playing poker, except jailhouse poker for cigerettes... Laughable at best!! ho ho ho
James Dawson
Aug 20, 2014, 1:24:31 PM8/20/14
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On Tuesday, August 19, 2014 10:43:28 PM UTC-4, vi...@hush.ai wrote:
> James Dawson <billyj...@gmail.com> wrote in
>
> news:3d18000d-eae2-4693...@googlegroups.com:
> James Dawson <billyj...@gmail.com> wrote in
>
>
>
>
> > In that low ball hand, how could the best he have be a 75213,
>
> > when you said, only the 7 was showing?
>
>
>
>
>
> > In that low ball hand, how could the best he have be a 75213,
>
> > when you said, only the 7 was showing?
>
>
>
> I said he had a 7 showing. 4 cards are face up. So, with 7 5 3 K
>
> showing, he would have to have an ace deuce in the hole, and still
>
> couldn't beat my 7-4. My hand was a cinch.
>
> I believed if I had bet hundreds, he would have squirmed for
>
> awhile, and mucked his hand.
vi, I got it this time!! (grin)
>
> showing, he would have to have an ace deuce in the hole, and still
>
> couldn't beat my 7-4. My hand was a cinch.
>
> I believed if I had bet hundreds, he would have squirmed for
>
> awhile, and mucked his hand.
That is a wonderful feeling to have LOCKS on a hand, and you play acting to have the others charging in!! A poker's players dream!!! A lot of play acting goes into that, a lot, because if the other player has any hint that you have baited him in, they be cautious, and most likely when you check, they check right along with you!!
Good Show!!
James
James Dawson
Aug 20, 2014, 1:33:30 PM8/20/14
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On Wednesday, August 20, 2014 1:39:04 AM UTC-4, Pepe Papon wrote:
>
> -----------
>
> No Limit Texas Hold �em poker, has long been given the nickname the
>
> �Cadillac of Poker�. Poker professional and champion player Dan
>
> Harrington claims that �few players understand why the game deserves
>
> that reputation� (12). Harrington in his and Bill Roberties Book
>
> �Harrington on Hold �em� claims that Hold �em strikes perfect the
>
> balance between �too much� and �too little� information given allowing
>
> for better players to use deceptive and strategic tactics to force
>
> their opponents to make marginal errors (13).
>
> http://michaelhall2010.wordpress.com/2010/09/09/the-cadillac-of-poker/
> Pepe Papon
>
> -----------
>
> No Limit Texas Hold �em poker, has long been given the nickname the
>
> �Cadillac of Poker�. Poker professional and champion player Dan
>
> Harrington claims that �few players understand why the game deserves
>
> that reputation� (12). Harrington in his and Bill Roberties Book
>
> �Harrington on Hold �em� claims that Hold �em strikes perfect the
>
> balance between �too much� and �too little� information given allowing
>
> for better players to use deceptive and strategic tactics to force
>
> their opponents to make marginal errors (13).
>
> http://michaelhall2010.wordpress.com/2010/09/09/the-cadillac-of-poker/
>
Pepe, I stand by my opinion of the popularity is based on spectator appeal versu skill!!! In this day and age, the "spectator appeal" wins hands down!!
If you noticed, you don't see too many chess games on TV do you, or any MATH PROGRAMS either! Why, because they are only for the brainy peeps! The average peeps don't want anything to do with the harder games!! Hence, Hold Em is dam near for anybody! Anybody can win at that game!! But, real poker, and for you, real math, it takes PLAYERS THAT CAN PLAY!!
James Dawson
Aug 20, 2014, 1:47:13 PM8/20/14
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On Wednesday, August 20, 2014 2:11:46 AM UTC-4, Pepe Papon wrote:
>
> Such bullshit. Let's see you try and explain why there's less luck in
>
> 5 stud than in hold 'em.
> Pepe Papon
>
> Such bullshit. Let's see you try and explain why there's less luck in
>
> 5 stud than in hold 'em.
Mainly, with 5 card stud, you can almost caculate your odds of winning or losing, as in, how many card you got that you can win with, against the ammount of money in the pot! With Hold Em, you got three cards coming at you right away, no chance to evaluate from the stand point of one card at a time, like you do with stud poker, and mainly, 5 card stud! In 5 cards stud, they ONLY have one hole card!! So, putting them down to best possible hand they could have is fairly easy! No so with hold em, or other games where more cards are hidden!!
Pepe, maybe you should stick to high level words, grammar, and even math! You might have a chance there!! (grin)
Cheers,
James
James Dawson
Aug 20, 2014, 1:49:21 PM8/20/14
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homoind...@gmail.com
Aug 20, 2014, 1:49:34 PM8/20/14
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James Dawson wrote,
Yes, I raised him, because, I put him on a pair of tens, and was going for that!! Yes, I raised, the chance of him being dumb enough to take almost 50 to 1 odds to hit the queen, you dam right I raised!! I play the odds
So, S T F U, and what do you know of playing poker, except jailhouse poker for cigerettes... Laughable at best!! ho ho ho
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Can you explain at what point in a heads up 5
card stud game like you are describing, it's 50 to 1 to make a pair? Like I said, math is another of your not so strong points.
Yes, I raised him, because, I put him on a pair of tens, and was going for that!! Yes, I raised, the chance of him being dumb enough to take almost 50 to 1 odds to hit the queen, you dam right I raised!! I play the odds
So, S T F U, and what do you know of playing poker, except jailhouse poker for cigerettes... Laughable at best!! ho ho ho
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
card stud game like you are describing, it's 50 to 1 to make a pair? Like I said, math is another of your not so strong points.
homoind...@gmail.com
Aug 20, 2014, 1:55:58 PM8/20/14
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calculations necessary for playing poker, you made a lot of stupid financial decisions too?
On Wednesday, August 20, 2014 6:40:49 AM UTC-4, homoind...@gmail.com wrote:
> James Dawson wrote,
>
>
>
> >! Also, with him taking the queen off and hitting >it, he would have to have been playing "paper" >on me!! Because people don't stick their money >in the pot for something like a 50 to 1 shot!!
>
>
>
> I guess math ain't your strong suit
> James Dawson wrote,
>
>
>
> >! Also, with him taking the queen off and hitting >it, he would have to have been playing "paper" >on me!! Because people don't stick their money >in the pot for something like a 50 to 1 shot!!
>
>
>
> I guess math ain't your strong suit
BTW, I was trading cars every two years too!!
>>>>>>>>
So along with being unable to make simple
>>>>>>>>
calculations necessary for playing poker, you made a lot of stupid financial decisions too?
James Dawson
Aug 20, 2014, 1:59:53 PM8/20/14
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On Wednesday, August 20, 2014 8:37:45 AM UTC-4, Will in New Haven wrote:
> Up to a point, there is a lot of profit in being at a wild-card game with bad players, who are always profitable to have around, and otherwise decent players who won't make the proper adjustments to the different game.
>
> Will in New Haven
> Up to a point, there is a lot of profit in being at a wild-card game with bad players, who are always profitable to have around, and otherwise decent players who won't make the proper adjustments to the different game.
>
Will, no way under the sun!! Wild Games, with a lot of wild cards, favor the not so smart players a lot!! Not only that, it also has some protection from predators like me!! The more simple the game, the better it is for better players and cheaters like me!!
Will, that is not hearsay, that is fact, and coming from me, it comes with 30 to 40 years experience behind it too!!
James Dawson
Aug 20, 2014, 2:06:33 PM8/20/14
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On Wednesday, August 20, 2014 1:49:34 PM UTC-4, homoind...@gmail.com wrote:
> Can you explain at what point in a heads up 5
>
> card stud game like you are describing, it's 50 to 1 to make a pair? Like I said, math is another of your not so strong points.
On that, I was just throwing figures out there! What I mean is, less cards down, the more chance to figure out the odds!! The 50 to 1 was just a figure I threw out there!! What I am saying is, the less cards, and mainly, the less hole cards, the better chances of figuring out your odds of winning oppose to losing!!
> Can you explain at what point in a heads up 5
>
> card stud game like you are describing, it's 50 to 1 to make a pair? Like I said, math is another of your not so strong points.
Please don't every figure I shoot out as gospel! I will say when something is dead accurate! From here out, when I shoot a figure out there, I will either say "example" or this is dead accurate!! Then you micro my comments!
Cheers,
James
James Dawson
Aug 20, 2014, 2:07:42 PM8/20/14
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On Wednesday, August 20, 2014 1:55:58 PM UTC-4, homoind...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> So along with being unable to make simple
>
> calculations necessary for playing poker, you made a lot of stupid financial decisions too?
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>
> So along with being unable to make simple
>
> calculations necessary for playing poker, you made a lot of stupid financial decisions too?
Hey, if you looking to BS, don't reply to me!! Please!!
homoind...@gmail.com
Aug 20, 2014, 2:10:27 PM8/20/14
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prefer to be precise. And in your example it's such a simple calculation I'm surprised a
math whiz like you couldn't pull it right out in about a nanosecond. It's pretty much like almost everyone here says, you're full of shit.
homoind...@gmail.com
Aug 20, 2014, 2:14:27 PM8/20/14
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I've won quite a few shooting matches myself and in my immediate family I have multiple national and state champions. Some of what you wrote was simply ludicrous.
Paul Popinjay
Aug 20, 2014, 2:52:10 PM8/20/14
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On Wednesday, August 20, 2014 10:15:56 AM UTC-7, James Dawson wrote:
>
> Yes, I raised him, because, I put him on a pair of tens, and was going for that!! Yes, I raised, the chance of him being dumb enough to take almost 50 to 1 odds to hit the queen, you dam right I raised!! I play the odds
>
>
>
> So, S T F U, and what do you know of playing poker, except jailhouse poker for cigerettes... Laughable at best!! ho ho ho
I'm done. Go chuck some spears, you fucking ape.
>
> Yes, I raised him, because, I put him on a pair of tens, and was going for that!! Yes, I raised, the chance of him being dumb enough to take almost 50 to 1 odds to hit the queen, you dam right I raised!! I play the odds
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> So, S T F U, and what do you know of playing poker, except jailhouse poker for cigerettes... Laughable at best!! ho ho ho
James Dawson
Aug 20, 2014, 3:22:13 PM8/20/14
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On Wednesday, August 20, 2014 2:10:27 PM UTC-4, homoind...@gmail.com wrote:
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> math whiz like you couldn't pull it right out in about a nanosecond. It's pretty much like almost everyone here says, you're full of shit.
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> math whiz like you couldn't pull it right out in about a nanosecond. It's pretty much like almost everyone here says, you're full of shit.
So, because a big mouth, commenting on a thread I started, tells me I am full of chit, and that is supposed to be FACTUAL?
First off, I am the one talking facts. My point of SPECTATOR APPEAL VS SMARTS BEING USED, is right on the button!!
All people like you have done, is shoot insults to somebody telling nothing but the pure truth!! As I always said, you all have not experienced poker from the angle/perspective that I tell it from! The first think you all do, is throw a wall, and call it BS!! You cannot for one second contemplate that everything I have stated is dead true!! Not talking about my fly off odds count, and I am talking about the perspective!
I am for real, not my fault internet experts can't tell the real thing!!
James Dawson
Aug 20, 2014, 3:25:11 PM8/20/14
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On Wednesday, August 20, 2014 2:52:10 PM UTC-4, Paul Popinjay wrote:
> I'm done. Go chuck some spears, you fucking ape.
Paul, I pity you!! Pure and simple!!
> I'm done. Go chuck some spears, you fucking ape.
James
homoind...@gmail.com
Aug 20, 2014, 3:46:32 PM8/20/14
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do such a simple on the fly calculation as the odds of hitting a pair in 5 card stud. It's a fact your stories about 5 card stud are laughably
simplistic drivel and it's a fact you don't have a clue about hold-em.
Your stories are nothing more than strings of buzzwords you picked up off the Internet, interlaced with self aggrandizement and boastful nothingness. In my estimation you are a rank amateur at each and every one of your so called expert endeavors.
James Dawson
Aug 20, 2014, 3:53:17 PM8/20/14
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I am getting a whole lot flak on my post!
Let me try to appeal to people with common sense!!
Who should be more factual and correct?
Commentators on the internet, or me, who have done this for 40 or more years for a living!!
I might can say, the most of the commenters here are not even over 40 years old!
Will, Clave,Tim, and now somebody name Homiiend!!
I did this for a living!! The above are shooting wise cracks about a subject they know LITTLE ABOUT!! Sure, you all played poker, but not on the level that I played, or the places I played!!
Yes, I was a cheat, no denying that! I started off telling the memoirs of a "retired card mechanic", and I get hit with a whole lot of disbelief! Because the small world that most of you all operated in, didn't include the areas I discuss, so you all dismissed it as "full of chit"..
In fact, the only people capapble of deciphering my posts are people in the same class as I am! And that my friend is far and far away!
Who can spot a high level chess player better than another high level chess player!! Also, I am not into the SPECTATOR GAMES! We have a lot of posters who are self-appointed experts in SPECTATOR GAMES!!
Sorry, I was into the real thing!!
Cherry
James
Let me try to appeal to people with common sense!!
Who should be more factual and correct?
Commentators on the internet, or me, who have done this for 40 or more years for a living!!
I might can say, the most of the commenters here are not even over 40 years old!
Will, Clave,Tim, and now somebody name Homiiend!!
I did this for a living!! The above are shooting wise cracks about a subject they know LITTLE ABOUT!! Sure, you all played poker, but not on the level that I played, or the places I played!!
Yes, I was a cheat, no denying that! I started off telling the memoirs of a "retired card mechanic", and I get hit with a whole lot of disbelief! Because the small world that most of you all operated in, didn't include the areas I discuss, so you all dismissed it as "full of chit"..
In fact, the only people capapble of deciphering my posts are people in the same class as I am! And that my friend is far and far away!
Who can spot a high level chess player better than another high level chess player!! Also, I am not into the SPECTATOR GAMES! We have a lot of posters who are self-appointed experts in SPECTATOR GAMES!!
Sorry, I was into the real thing!!
Cherry
James
Paul Popinjay
Aug 20, 2014, 3:53:33 PM8/20/14
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On Wednesday, August 20, 2014 12:25:11 PM UTC-7, James Dawson wrote:
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> Paul, I pity you!! Pure and simple!!
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Shine my shoes and get my baggage.
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> Paul, I pity you!! Pure and simple!!
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homoind...@gmail.com
Aug 20, 2014, 3:58:32 PM8/20/14
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2:53 PMJames Dawson
Quick!! What are the odds your opponent hits his queen on 5th street? LOL
James Dawson
Aug 20, 2014, 4:09:00 PM8/20/14
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I am always on the side of the better odds! Even when I am cheating, and I am cheating 90% of the time! Even with the cheating, I have to have odds that I will get away with the cheating to be on my side too! I have passed on many of games where I have observed it would be too much of a chance making a move in that game!! That means the odds of me getting discovered were high! So, I pass!!
The whole chit is about odds. Getting the odds on my side!! Sorry, you don't understand that! But, that is the difference between playing spectator games, and real live poker hustling!!
Cheers,
James
Paul Popinjay
Aug 20, 2014, 4:20:20 PM8/20/14
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On Wednesday, August 20, 2014 1:09:00 PM UTC-7, James Dawson wrote:
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> The whole chit is about odds. Getting the odds on my side!! Sorry, you don't understand that! But, that is the difference between playing spectator games, and real live poker hustling!!
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If you and a pit bull are in a small room together, and I throw some fried chicken in the middle of the room, what are the odds of the dog getting any?
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> The whole chit is about odds. Getting the odds on my side!! Sorry, you don't understand that! But, that is the difference between playing spectator games, and real live poker hustling!!
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homoind...@gmail.com
Aug 20, 2014, 4:22:31 PM8/20/14
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The point is, I made him put even up money in the pot for a long shot!! The odds of hitting the queen are large. Could have been some queens turned down,and in the deadwood, which would make the odds even higher!! The point is, even if he hit the queen, he took the way worst of it to do it!!
I am always on the side of the better odds! Even when I am cheating, and I am cheating 90% of the time! Even with the cheating, I have to have odds that I will get away with the cheating to be on my side too! I have passed on many of games where I have observed it would be too much of a chance making a move in that game!! That means the odds of me getting discovered were high! So, I pass!!
The whole chit is about odds. Getting the odds on my side!! Sorry, you don't understand that! But, that is the difference between playing spectator games, and real live poker hustling!!
Cheers,
James
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
I am always on the side of the better odds! Even when I am cheating, and I am cheating 90% of the time! Even with the cheating, I have to have odds that I will get away with the cheating to be on my side too! I have passed on many of games where I have observed it would be too much of a chance making a move in that game!! That means the odds of me getting discovered were high! So, I pass!!
The whole chit is about odds. Getting the odds on my side!! Sorry, you don't understand that! But, that is the difference between playing spectator games, and real live poker hustling!!
Cheers,
James
Paul Popinjay
Aug 20, 2014, 4:30:47 PM8/20/14
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On Wednesday, August 20, 2014 1:22:31 PM UTC-7, homoind...@gmail.com wrote:
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> HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
The only person on this newsgroup stupider than James is myself. He's been here a little over a month, Alim, about the same time you've been away. At first some of us debated whether he was a brilliant troll or not. Finally, I think the consensus is that he is the real McCoy, not a troll, but a genuine dumb mutherfucker. And I tried to reason with him, so what's that say about my intelligence?
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> HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
The only person on this newsgroup stupider than James is myself. He's been here a little over a month, Alim, about the same time you've been away. At first some of us debated whether he was a brilliant troll or not. Finally, I think the consensus is that he is the real McCoy, not a troll, but a genuine dumb mutherfucker. And I tried to reason with him, so what's that say about my intelligence?
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Pepe Papon
Aug 21, 2014, 1:43:53 AM8/21/14
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On Wed, 20 Aug 2014 11:06:33 -0700 (PDT), James Dawson
<billyj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Wednesday, August 20, 2014 1:49:34 PM UTC-4, homoind...@gmail.com wrote:
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>> Can you explain at what point in a heads up 5
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>> card stud game like you are describing, it's 50 to 1 to make a pair? Like I said, math is another of your not so strong points.
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>On that, I was just throwing figures out there!
So, you "play the odds" without actually knowing what the odds are.
<billyj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Wednesday, August 20, 2014 1:49:34 PM UTC-4, homoind...@gmail.com wrote:
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>> Can you explain at what point in a heads up 5
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>> card stud game like you are describing, it's 50 to 1 to make a pair? Like I said, math is another of your not so strong points.
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>On that, I was just throwing figures out there!
And you said you put the guy on a pair of tens and raised him to
kingdom come. What was the purpose of the raise? How, exactly,
would it help you earn more money? Did you expect him to call a huge
raise with a pair of tens?
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Pepe Papon
Aug 21, 2014, 1:50:18 AM8/21/14
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On Wed, 20 Aug 2014 10:33:30 -0700 (PDT), James Dawson
<billyj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Wednesday, August 20, 2014 1:39:04 AM UTC-4, Pepe Papon wrote:
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>> No Limit Texas Hold ?em poker, has long been given the nickname the
<billyj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Wednesday, August 20, 2014 1:39:04 AM UTC-4, Pepe Papon wrote:
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>> ?Cadillac of Poker?. Poker professional and champion player Dan
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>> Harrington claims that ?few players understand why the game deserves
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>> that reputation? (12). Harrington in his and Bill Roberties Book
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>> ?Harrington on Hold ?em? claims that Hold ?em strikes perfect the
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>> balance between ?too much? and ?too little? information given allowing
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>> for better players to use deceptive and strategic tactics to force
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>> their opponents to make marginal errors (13).
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>> http://michaelhall2010.wordpress.com/2010/09/09/the-cadillac-of-poker/
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>> Pepe Papon
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>Pepe, I stand by my opinion of the popularity is based on spectator appeal versu skill!!! In this day and age, the "spectator appeal" wins hands down!!
Of course you do. Why let reality get in the way of your opinion?
>> for better players to use deceptive and strategic tactics to force
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>> their opponents to make marginal errors (13).
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>> http://michaelhall2010.wordpress.com/2010/09/09/the-cadillac-of-poker/
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>> Pepe Papon
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>Pepe, I stand by my opinion of the popularity is based on spectator appeal versu skill!!! In this day and age, the "spectator appeal" wins hands down!!
I'm sure you know more about poker than Doyle Brunson and Dan
Harrington.
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