No Limit Hold'em
cnote
hold'em game for beginning players ($100 buy-in)? If anyone knows of
others please advise.
Matt Treasure
A "no limit hold'em game for beginning players"???
How do the players prove that they are beginners, and
why would beginners play No Limit?
Matt Treasure
cnote
Why wouldn't they? It is a game like any other game. I play low limit
hold'em, have become adept at reading most of the players and get
frustrated when they hold 7-2 offsuit and beat me on the river. I
always want to move all-in on these people, but who can you bluff with a
6 dollar bet? I agree with Brunson that no-limit is the Cadillac of
poker games, but I want to learn how to play without losing my shirt.
cnote
>
> cnote wrote:
> >
> > Is the Eldorado in Reno the only casino that has a daily no limit
> > hold'em game for beginning players ($100 buy-in)? If anyone knows of
> > others please advise.
>
> A "no limit hold'em game for beginning players"???
> How do the players prove that they are beginners, and
> why would beginners play No Limit?
>
> Matt Treasure
Why wouldn't a beginner want to play no-limit? It is a game like any
other game. I play mostly low limit (no fold'em hold'em) and have
become somewhat adept at reading the players and there is nothing more
frustrating than pegging a player's hand and getting beaten on the river
by some schmuck holding 7-2 offsuit because it only cost him $6 to see
the last card. I very often want to move-in on these people but can't.
I agree with Brunson that no-limit is the Cadillac of poker. But it is
different from limit and I want to learn how to play without losing my
shirt.
Matt Treasure
I agree with the Cadillac of poker reference and No Limit
Hold'em is my favorite game. However, I can't imagine a beginner
thinking "wow , what a great game this is" after losing his
whole stack after playing his very first hand of poker.
Matt Treasure
Patti Beadles
> I agree with the Cadillac of poker reference and No Limit
> Hold'em is my favorite game. However, I can't imagine a beginner
> thinking "wow , what a great game this is" after losing his
> whole stack after playing his very first hand of poker.
I suspect that the original author meant "beginning nolimit player" not
"beginning poker player." And there's certainly value in having a
small-buyin nolimit game, so that people can learn without risking
their kids' college education.
-Patti
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Matt Treasure
> "beginning poker player." And there's certainly value in having a
> small-buyin nolimit game, so that people can learn without risking
> their kids' college education.
>
> -Patti
> --
Patti,
This game is called "Baby No Limit" in NY.
$200 buy in's with $2 & $5 blinds,
and you don't have to be a beginner to play.
Matt Treasure
Steve Brecher
> Is the Eldorado in Reno the only casino that has a daily no limit
> hold'em game for beginning players ($100 buy-in)? If anyone knows of
> others please advise.
As far as I know, Eldorado's is the only regular (not side action of a
tournament) no-limit game in Nevada.
$100 buy-in, $2 and $5 blinds, $5 to go. It generally starts around 7:30 PM.
--
st...@brecher.reno.nv.us (Steve Brecher)
John Hartzell
> A "no limit hold'em game for beginning players"???
> How do the players prove that they are beginners, and
> why would beginners play No Limit?
>
> Matt Treasure
At the $200.00 buy in no limit game sometimes spread at Crystal Park, we
accept that you are a beginner if you haven't totally busted the table
within one hour of sitting down. Once you've proven yourself as a genuine
beginner, and move into the realm of experienced player, you are allowed to
lose at will, like the rest of us, without any change of status.
Beginners should play no limit so they can get experience and no longer be
beginners. Once you learn no limit, it is no longer necessary to sit for
hours in limit, pissing away your rack in small increments. If you are in a
hurry or have something important to do, you can sit in on the no limit
game and double up or go bust in a single explosive hand. How often do
limit players get to say "all in" when they have a thousand dollars in
chips in front of them? No limit is also a game where you don't have to
learn strategy for the turn or river if you get it all in on or before the
flop. If your hand selection and self control is great, but your strategy
suffers as the hand develops, no-limit is your best possible game.
Big John
Steve Brecher
> Steve Brecher <st...@brecher.reno.nv.us> wrote:
> >As far as I know, Eldorado's is the only regular (not side action of a
> >tournament) no-limit game in Nevada.
>
> What happened to the game that was at the Reno Hilton a few nights a
> week? Did it move to ElDorado?
Yes. The Eldorado poker room opened near the end of May and shortly
thereafter the no-limit game moved there from the Reno Hilton.
--
st...@brecher.reno.nv.us (Steve Brecher)
Patti Beadles
Steve Brecher <st...@brecher.reno.nv.us> wrote:
>As far as I know, Eldorado's is the only regular (not side action of a
>tournament) no-limit game in Nevada.
What happened to the game that was at the Reno Hilton a few nights a
week? Did it move to ElDorado?
-Patti
JeffreyTJ
To Big John
Thanks for inserting a little humor on the "beginner" question. I was lol at
your response.
I too like no limit but also operate on a very limited bankroll so I generally
try to get experience in small buy-in tournaments
LegenDaryl
>John Hartzell wrote...
>At the $200.00 buy in no limit game sometimes spread at Crystal Park
John, your earlier post said this game was spread on a friday night. I'd love
to play in it. Do you know if it's spread any other nights or on the weekend?
I can't get there on Fridays.
Thanks,
Daryl "No-limit tourny player" Nickerson
John Hartzell
The game was spread last Tuesday afternoon about 4:00 P.M., Friday at
about 5:00 P.M. and about 7:00 P.M. on Saturday. Tuesdays and Fridays
there are small no limit tourneys there and we have been trying to show
up a few hours early and warm up with some ring play.
Last Friday, Dirk Tebban, an RGP contributor, drove up from San Diego,
sat down in the game at the beginning and managed to play until about
4:00 A.M. If I know a few RGP'ers are coming on Tuesday or Friday, I
will make it a point to be there. We usually have Tom McEvoy in the
game. I won't say Tom plays tight, but he makes D. Sklansky's play look
"live". Randy Holland stopped by and played for an hour or so and Gary
Pollack and Mo F. are regulars in the game. Randy Watkins, and Jenny
played on Tuesday, Friday and Saturday and Mike Laing played for a short
time on Tuesday. Puggy Pearson was in the room on Friday, but couldn't
be enticed into the game. The game is full more often than not, and
there has been a fair amount of action in it. On Friday we played with
5-5 blinds and an automatic live 10.00 straddle which loosened the game
up and made for some gambling and advanced ante stealing moves.
I think the Bike is having a no-limit tournament tomorrow which will
probably prevent a no-limit ring game being spread at Crystal Park. I'll
probably play at the Bike tourney. If you come to the Bike, there will
probably be a no limit Mexican Poker ring game with a $100.00 buy in
after 9:00 P.M. I like to play in that as well, and the action is
sometime so juicy that even I can eke out a win.
Email me when you think you might like to partake of some no limit and
I'll try to make sure there is a game for you to play in. Usually I just
buy a rack of chips and sit down at any empty table and that is
sufficient to get a game going.
Big John
cnote
I agree. Clearly, I meant beginning no-limit players when I posted
originally. I have trouble reconciling the fact that the world champion
is crowned at Binion's every year after winning the no-limit event; yet
this type of game is not played in any of the casinos (except apparently
the Eldorado). Why are all the games in the casinos structured when the
world title is played no-limit? Do the casinos make more on structured
games or are there not very many people with the cajones to play
no-limit?
cnote (Jim Hankins)
LegenDaryl
Thanks, Big John, for the info. I'm playing tomorrow night at the Bike too.
Maybe if I bust out early, I'll go down to Crystal and see if a game gets
going. Otherwise I'll try on other Tuesdays. I've never played Mexican Poker,
but I might watch for a while.
Thanks again.
- Daryl
post...@nospam.com
<jha...@jps.net> wrote:
>probably be a no limit Mexican Poker ring game with a $100.00 buy in
What's Mexican Poker?
Matt Treasure
> Is the Eldorado in Reno the only casino that has a daily no limit
> hold'em game for beginning players ($100 buy-in)? If anyone knows of
> others please advise.
Matt Treasure wrote:
>A "no limit hold'em game for beginning players"???
> How do the players prove that they are beginners, and
> why would beginners play No Limit?
cnote wrote:
> Why wouldn't a beginner want to play no-limit? It is a game like any
> other game.
cnote wrote:
> Clearly, I meant beginning no-limit players when I posted
> originally.
>
>
>
> cnote (Jim Hankins)
Clearly!!!!!!
Matt "pane of glass" Treasure
John Hartzell
post...@nospam.com wrote:
>
>
> What's Mexican Poker?
Mexican Poker or Stud Loco is five card stud with the joker. It is
dealt from a 41 card deck, as the 8's 9's and 10's are removed. The joker
is wild if it is dealt down and only good for aces, straights and flushes
if dealt up. You get your first card up and the second one down, there is
a betting round then each remaining player can face up his hole card and
receive a new down card or can elect to take his next card up. There is
another betting round and then the hole card up or down decision is
repeated, same on fifth street. A flush beats a full house in this game,
and five of a kind is the immortal nuts. At the Bike it is played at 1-2,
2-4, 4-8 and no limit. As near as I can tell, the rake is $3.00 per hand
for the 2-4, 4-8 or no limit. It is a lively game and there is lots of
laughter and swearing in Spanish. I speak almost no Spanish, but don't
object when the others do. Sometimes a player will decide to take his bet
back out of the pot after another player raises his bet or call. This
only works if no one sees it or if the people seeing it decide not to
object. If someone wins a pot by bluffing, the whole table feels free to
taunt and question the manhood of the person who folded the winning hand.
You gotta love this game!
Big John
Joe Long
>Why wouldn't they? It is a game like any other game. I play low limit
>hold'em, have become adept at reading most of the players and get
>frustrated when they hold 7-2 offsuit and beat me on the river. I
>always want to move all-in on these people, but who can you bluff with a
>6 dollar bet? I agree with Brunson that no-limit is the Cadillac of
>poker games, but I want to learn how to play without losing my shirt.
So play no-limit tournaments. You only risk the amount of the buy-in
(and maybe rebuys), but get to play (and learn) no-limit.
I've started that, and gotten off to a great start. Made second place
or better money in two of my first five tournaments, never having played
no-limit before*. I find I really like the no-limit tournament a lot
better than the low-limit games (the only other kind available in
Colorado).
(* Yeah, I know, beginners' luck!)
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Alan Bostick
> Why wouldn't a beginner want to play no-limit? It is a game like any
> other game. I play mostly low limit (no fold'em hold'em) and have
> become somewhat adept at reading the players and there is nothing more
> frustrating than pegging a player's hand and getting beaten on the river
> by some schmuck holding 7-2 offsuit because it only cost him $6 to see
> the last card. I very often want to move-in on these people but can't.
> I agree with Brunson that no-limit is the Cadillac of poker. But it is
> different from limit and I want to learn how to play without losing my
> shirt.
A beginner wouldn't (or perhaps, oughtn't) want to play no-limit because
an aware player can clean the clock of a beginner *very* quickly.
This is also why casinos and cardrooms prefer limit to no-limit. If
you clean a fish out in one hand, she isn't going to stick around to pay
rent for her seat. Whether it's time charge, button charge, or rake,
the house gets more if it takes a long time and many contested pots for
the fish to get broke.
(You can comfort yourself when the goofy draws get there in the games you
play by making the chasers pay through the nose for the privilege, making
more money for you when the goofy draws miss.)
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gary_ca...@my-dejanews.com
jha...@jps.net wrote:
> > A "no limit hold'em game for beginning players"???
> > How do the players prove that they are beginners, and
> > why would beginners play No Limit?
> > Matt Treasure
> At the $200.00 buy in no limit game sometimes spread at Crystal Park, we
> accept that you are a beginner if you haven't totally busted the table
> within one hour of sitting down. Once you've proven yourself as a genuine
> beginner, and move into the realm of experienced player, you are allowed to
> lose at will, like the rest of us, without any change of status.
> Beginners should play no limit so they can get experience and no longer be
> beginners. Once you learn no limit, it is no longer necessary to sit for
> hours in limit, pissing away your rack in small increments. If you are in a
> hurry or have something important to do, you can sit in on the no limit
> game and double up or go bust in a single explosive hand. How often do
> limit players get to say "all in" when they have a thousand dollars in
> chips in front of them? No limit is also a game where you don't have to
> learn strategy for the turn or river if you get it all in on or before the
> flop. If your hand selection and self control is great, but your strategy
> suffers as the hand develops, no-limit is your best possible game.
ah, the nolimit experience. Make me recall the time I ordered a grill cheese
sandwich. When I ordered it I had a few hundred in chips. It was a $20
buyin nolimit game. A few minutes later, as I was getting up from my chair,
the waitress brings my sandwich. They cost $1.10. She didn't even look at
the spot of green felt in front of my chair, she just looked at my face and
said, "You can't pay for this, can you?". --- Gary Carson
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Ken Churilla
>ah, the nolimit experience. Make me recall the time I ordered a grill cheese
>sandwich. When I ordered it I had a few hundred in chips. It was a $20
>buyin nolimit game. A few minutes later, as I was getting up from my chair,
>the waitress brings my sandwich. They cost $1.10. She didn't even look at
>the spot of green felt in front of my chair, she just looked at my face and
>said, "You can't pay for this, can you?". --- Gary Carson
I thought this was such a classic and humorous story that I've added it to
the Poker Jokes & Humor Page. I hope you don't mind, Gary.
Ken Churilla
Ken's Poker Page
http://www.best.com/~mentorms/poker/
Topset
Friday's ago and they got one going on account of the Friday tourney. Does it
go regularly, semi-regularly?
Thanks.
Topset
>the spot of green felt in front of my chair, she just looked at my face and
>said, "You can't pay for this, can you?". --- Gary Carson
Been there, done that. Thanks for the laugh.