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Dutch

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Dec 23, 2017, 3:48:47 AM12/23/17
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Au5ri3AwUw
Ezra Levant of TheRebel.media reports on a Montreal Mosque pressuring a
construction company to remove female employees from the area, and the
mainstream media ignoring the issue.

This is truly regressive.

Clave

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Dec 23, 2017, 4:00:10 AM12/23/17
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On 12/23/2017 12:48 AM, Dutch wrote:
>
> Ezra Levant of TheRebel.media reports...

What does he say?


Clave

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Dec 23, 2017, 4:10:39 AM12/23/17
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(I'm not giving your nazi friends Youtube views.)



Dutch

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Dec 23, 2017, 5:23:43 AM12/23/17
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On 12/23/2017 12:59 AM, Clave wrote:
"None of this Charter of Rights BS, none of this feminist BS... not in
this neighbourhood" (ironically called "Notre Dame de Grace")

Clave

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Dec 23, 2017, 5:31:02 AM12/23/17
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On 12/23/2017 2:23 AM, Dutch wrote:
> On 12/23/2017 12:59 AM, Clave wrote:
>> On 12/23/2017 12:48 AM, Dutch wrote:
>>>
>>> Ezra Levant of TheRebel.media reports...
>>
>> What does he say?
>>
>>
>
> "None of this Charter of Rights BS, none of this feminist BS... not in
> this neighbourhood"

So, gibberish.

risky biz

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Dec 23, 2017, 4:38:22 PM12/23/17
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I assume that it was a private construction company which supposedly agreed to this. I say 'supposedly' because your sources are serial liars. Like these lies you reproduced in another thread just 18 hours ago.
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rec.gambling.poker/X33W_ztah_8/_I5UO_89DAAJ

This supposed 'clearing of women', if it actually took place, was a private business decision of the construction company owner. I would have told the mosque to go jump in a lake, assuming the incident isn't a lie. Are you assuming everyone is going to believe that no other news media covered this other than your only source?

BTW- assuming this occurred as your source claims do you find it far more outrageous than this, 'dutch':
http://religionnews.com/2017/12/12/ap-rohingya-methodically-raped-by-myanmars-armed-forces/
I'm just wondering about your selective outrage.

Dutch

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Dec 23, 2017, 4:42:17 PM12/23/17
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That's right, nothing to see here.. let's be accommodating, make sure no
menstrual blood comes within a city block of those holy men as they
commune with Allah.

"What's next, keep Jews away from us, gays..?" naaah


Clave

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Dec 23, 2017, 4:45:16 PM12/23/17
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And I thought you were being incoherent *BEFORE*.

Sheesh.


risky biz

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Dec 23, 2017, 4:47:01 PM12/23/17
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Look at where 'dutch' gets his news:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rebel_Media
. . they're intertwined with the Nazi movement and organize fraudulent donation campaigns.

BillB

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Dec 23, 2017, 4:51:39 PM12/23/17
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On Saturday, December 23, 2017 at 1:47:01 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:

> Look at where 'dutch' gets his news:
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rebel_Media
> . . they're intertwined with the Nazi movement and organize fraudulent donation campaigns.

Typical youtube Islamophobia nonsense. Dutch swallowed the hook yet again! (but Islamophobia isn't real...just ask him!).

https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/montreal-mosque-denies-asking-that-female-construction-workers-be-barred-from-site-1.3720214

Dutch

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Dec 23, 2017, 4:55:56 PM12/23/17
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But there's nothing incoherent about demanding that women be barred from
working at a construction site across the street.

This is Montreal, Canada, not Riyadh. They can fuck right off, and so
can you.

risky biz

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Dec 23, 2017, 4:58:45 PM12/23/17
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On Saturday, December 23, 2017 at 12:48:47 AM UTC-8, Dutch wrote:
It took all of 10 seconds to find proof that your Islamophobic sources are liars, 'dutch'. Are you now going to back peddle furiously and claim you were duped and it was an honest mistake? TVA admitted EIGHT FUCKING DAYS AGO THAT THE STORY WAS COMPLETELY FALSE. And here you are today happily republishing the original LIES.

'More than 100 protesters — most of them non-Muslims — gathered in front of the headquarters of TVA Nouvelles Wednesday night, accusing the TV network of routinely broadcasting fake news and fomenting Islamophobia.

Some of the protesters pelted the building on de Maisonneuve Blvd. E. with pieces of ice, chanting “F–k you, TVA.” A row of anti-riot police stood guard in front of the entrance to the building, and the hour-long demonstration ended peacefully at around 7:30 p.m.

“TVA, the most popular news station in Quebec, produced a story meant to fan the flames of hatred against Muslims,” the organizers said in a statement that was distributed by activist Jaggi Singh.

The statement was alluding to a Dec. 12 TVA news story — since retracted — claiming that two mosques in Côte-des-Neiges banned women from a construction site outside their doors. Three days after the report aired, TVA issued an apology on its website, admitting that the story was false.

The TVA news network apologized Friday for a controversial and since debunked report on mosques banning women from a nearby construction site, but a national Muslim organization says the network needs to go further.

At the mosques Friday, worshippers filled the halls and leaders praised the government and other media for their quick work to bring out the truth, but many said the damage wrought by the news report had already been done, once again stirring anti-Muslim sentiment and bringing fear and a sense of exclusion to members of the Muslim community.

Outside the mosques, roughly a dozen protesters claimed they were there to denounce discrimination against women, saying they still believed the news report to be true. They were surrounded by dozens of police officers.

Standing a few metres away, Scott Weinstein of the Independent Jewish Voices Canada organization stood with a small group of counter-protesters, the two groups separated by barrier tape and a row of police officers, who also helped to escort Muslims headed to prayers.

“We as Jews know what happens when a religious group or ethnic group is targeted for hate,” he said.

In their statement, TVA offered an apology to those “affected” by the news story.

“The report was based on comments made on camera Tuesday by two entrepreneurs. However, the versions we received from these individuals has changed since yesterday,” the statement said. “TVA Nouvelles regrets this situation and wishes to apologize to the different individuals and viewers who were affected by this news story.”

The company said its management will continue to conduct an internal investigation to verify the steps of the journalistic process undertaken.

The news network issued the statement a day after the Commission de la construction du Québec found no sign whatsoever that anyone associated with two mosques in Côte-des-Neiges asked for women to be excluded from a work site outside their doors.'
http://montrealgazette.com/news/tva-apologizes-for-mosque-story-says-it-will-investigate-journalistic-process


' Protesters chant “welcome to Muslims” Wednesday night before pelting the TVA Nouvelles building with ice for airing a since-discredited report about Muslims in Côtes-des-Neiges. pic.twitter.com/mJsmzjRtNl— Aaron Derfel (@Aaron_Derfel) December 21, 2017

But the protesters argued that TVA and Québecor Media Inc., which owns the network, have a long history of publishing and broadcasting what they consider to be Islamophobic news reports and opinion pieces.

“It’s time to denounce the completely unethical way in which Québecor has steadily nurtured Islamophobia in Quebec for years now,” the organizers said in their statement.

Singh and other organizers declined to be interviewed. The protest attracted anti-fascists, Marxists and a group called Alternative Socialiste.

A few Quebec Muslims did show up at Place Émilie-Gamelin, outside the Berri métro, where the protesters rallied before marching east along Ste-Catherine St. to TVA. Essra Daoui, a 24-year-old university student who was wearing a hijab, thanked the protesters for their “heroism” in taking a stand against TVA and Islamophobia.

“TVA Nouvelles, or should I say, TVA poubelle, is contributing toward Islamophobia and racism,” Daoui said in an interview, using the French word for trash can in a play of words on the news organization’s name.

“It’s the Fox News of Quebec,” she added. “It engages in demagoguery, and this has to stop.”

Moustafa Chamli, a 33-year-old independent game designer and Muslim, accused TVA of a lack of “journalistic rigour” whenever it pursues news stories that cast doubt on Quebecers of the Islamic faith.

“It’s exasperating, and it’s getting tiresome,” said Chamli, who seeks to debunk anti-Muslim stereotypes in the gaming industry.

The CBC and other news media reported on the protest. TVA Nouvelles, in contrast, did not mention the event on its website.
http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-news/debunked-mosque-story-rally-targets-tva-nouvelles-islamophobia

risky biz

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Dec 23, 2017, 5:00:23 PM12/23/17
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'dutch' is far more outraged about imaginary Muslim behavior than he is by real murder and rape of Muslim women. SICK.

risky biz

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Dec 23, 2017, 5:02:49 PM12/23/17
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Can you imagine what 'dutch' is doing rightin for an escape clause and thinking, 'Oh, shit! They caught me again!'

Dutch

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Dec 23, 2017, 5:04:09 PM12/23/17
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You mean they're denying it now, of course they are, and we must believe
them, good, obedient little brainwashed Canadians we are.

risky biz

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Dec 23, 2017, 5:05:11 PM12/23/17
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There is something very coherent about the LIES you reproduce regarding Muslims- it's called Islamophobic hate propaganda.

In a few days you'll be bleating, 'What lies? I never lie!'

risky biz

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Dec 23, 2017, 5:06:45 PM12/23/17
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Retype: Can you imagine what 'dutch' is doing right now? He's wracking his brain for an escape clause and thinking, 'Oh, shit! They caught me again!'

risky biz

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Dec 23, 2017, 5:08:42 PM12/23/17
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'dutch', you are truly reprehensible. Disgusting.

Dutch

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Dec 23, 2017, 5:13:24 PM12/23/17
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On 12/23/2017 1:58 PM, risky biz wrote:
> On Saturday, December 23, 2017 at 12:48:47 AM UTC-8, Dutch wrote:
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Au5ri3AwUw
>> Ezra Levant of TheRebel.media reports on a Montreal Mosque pressuring a
>> construction company to remove female employees from the area, and the
>> mainstream media ignoring the issue.
>>
>> This is truly regressive.
>
> It took all of 10 seconds to find proof that your Islamophobic sources are liars

Here come the shrill voices of outrage from the "Islamophobia" industry.
How predictable. It has NOT been proven that those demands were not made
my members of the mosque. People are changing their stories because of
the backlash, and the mob reaction.

Dutch

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Dec 23, 2017, 5:14:47 PM12/23/17
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On 12/23/2017 2:00 PM, risky biz wrote:
> I would have told the mosque to go jump in a lake

Suuuuure you would...

risky biz

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Dec 23, 2017, 5:18:46 PM12/23/17
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I recommend that you watch 'dutch's' YouTube video to just savor what a disgusting, repulsive liar Ezra Levant is. He plays a video of someone representing the mosque and pretends that he may have said something derogatory about Jews when he obviously didn't.

Notice in the articles I posted below that Jews showed up to protest 'dutch's' preferred sources of 'news' about Muslims.

risky biz

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Dec 23, 2017, 5:20:18 PM12/23/17
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Once again- you are truly reprehensible. Disgusting.

risky biz

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Dec 23, 2017, 5:21:26 PM12/23/17
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It's a dead cinch that I would. You are the one here who is profoundly dishonest, not me.

Dutch

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Dec 23, 2017, 5:22:51 PM12/23/17
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Talk about hook, line and sinker.. what proof do you have that the
original story was untrue and the denials are truthful? TVA has a Mosque
spokesperson appearing to confirm the original story.

And it's not like such a demand is implausible. Saudi conservatives have
considerable influence in Montreal mosques.

In the end you will believe what you want to believe.

VegasJerry

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Dec 23, 2017, 5:26:42 PM12/23/17
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On Saturday, December 23, 2017 at 2:13:24 PM UTC-8, Dutch wrote:
> On 12/23/2017 1:58 PM, risky biz wrote:
> > On Saturday, December 23, 2017 at 12:48:47 AM UTC-8, Dutch wrote:
> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Au5ri3AwUw
> >> Ezra Levant of TheRebel.media reports on a Montreal Mosque pressuring a
> >> construction company to remove female employees from the area, and the
> >> mainstream media ignoring the issue.
> >>
> >> This is truly regressive.
> >
> > It took all of 10 seconds to find proof that your Islamophobic sources are liars
>
> Here come the shrill voices of outrage from the "Islamophobia" industry.
> How predictable. It has NOT been proven...

You were spot-on, Risky. Dutch is in full back-up mode:
"BEEP! BEEP! BEEP!"

He has no shame, simply embarrassment and denial...

Jerry..



VegasJerry

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Dec 23, 2017, 5:28:13 PM12/23/17
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On Saturday, December 23, 2017 at 2:22:51 PM UTC-8, Dutch wrote:
> On 12/23/2017 2:02 PM, risky biz wrote:
> > On Saturday, December 23, 2017 at 1:51:39 PM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
> >> On Saturday, December 23, 2017 at 1:47:01 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
> >>
> >>> Look at where 'dutch' gets his news:
> >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rebel_Media
> >>> . . they're intertwined with the Nazi movement and organize fraudulent donation campaigns.
> >>
> >> Typical youtube Islamophobia nonsense. Dutch swallowed the hook yet again! (but Islamophobia isn't real...just ask him!).
> >>
> >> https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/montreal-mosque-denies-asking-that-female-construction-workers-be-barred-from-site-1.3720214
> >
> > Can you imagine what 'dutch' is doing rightin for an escape clause and thinking, 'Oh, shit! They caught me again!'
> >
>
> Talk about hook, line and sinker..

Yea, that's what we're talking about. Just keep making those back-up noises. You got fooled and now you're playing denial.

Jerry (lol) 'n Vegas

Dutch

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Dec 23, 2017, 5:29:38 PM12/23/17
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wtf are you talking about? I haven't backed.. Oh never mind, shut up,
you're a fucking idiot.

risky biz

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Dec 23, 2017, 5:36:52 PM12/23/17
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On Saturday, December 23, 2017 at 2:22:51 PM UTC-8, Dutch wrote:
> On 12/23/2017 2:02 PM, risky biz wrote:
> > On Saturday, December 23, 2017 at 1:51:39 PM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
> >> On Saturday, December 23, 2017 at 1:47:01 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
> >>
> >>> Look at where 'dutch' gets his news:
> >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rebel_Media
> >>> . . they're intertwined with the Nazi movement and organize fraudulent donation campaigns.
> >>
> >> Typical youtube Islamophobia nonsense. Dutch swallowed the hook yet again! (but Islamophobia isn't real...just ask him!).
> >>
> >> https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/montreal-mosque-denies-asking-that-female-construction-workers-be-barred-from-site-1.3720214
> >
> > Can you imagine what 'dutch' is doing rightin for an escape clause and thinking, 'Oh, shit! They caught me again!'
> >
>
> Talk about hook, line and sinker.. what proof do you have that the
> original story was untrue and the denials are truthful? TVA has a Mosque
> spokesperson appearing to confirm the original story.

That video of the mosque spokesperson didn't confirm anything, liar. They edited it to 20 seconds and your disgusting liar, Ezra Levant, tried to claim that he said things he obviously didn't say.

> And it's not like such a demand is implausible. Saudi conservatives have
> considerable influence in Montreal mosques.

Here we go with 'dutch's' 'even if it didn't happen it COULD have'. What a vile creature. If Muslims are as repulsive as you claim why do you have to repeatedly LIE about them?

> In the end you will believe what you want to believe.

Aren't you a perfect example of that, then?

Dutch

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Dec 23, 2017, 5:37:01 PM12/23/17
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On 12/23/2017 2:28 PM, VegasJerry wrote:
> On Saturday, December 23, 2017 at 2:22:51 PM UTC-8, Dutch wrote:
>> On 12/23/2017 2:02 PM, risky biz wrote:
>>> On Saturday, December 23, 2017 at 1:51:39 PM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
>>>> On Saturday, December 23, 2017 at 1:47:01 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Look at where 'dutch' gets his news:
>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rebel_Media
>>>>> . . they're intertwined with the Nazi movement and organize fraudulent donation campaigns.
>>>>
>>>> Typical youtube Islamophobia nonsense. Dutch swallowed the hook yet again! (but Islamophobia isn't real...just ask him!).
>>>>
>>>> https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/montreal-mosque-denies-asking-that-female-construction-workers-be-barred-from-site-1.3720214
>>>
>>> Can you imagine what 'dutch' is doing rightin for an escape clause and thinking, 'Oh, shit! They caught me again!'
>>>
>>
>> Talk about hook, line and sinker..
>
> Yea, that's what we're talking about. Just keep making those back-up noises. You got fooled and now you're playing denial.
>
> Jerry (lol) 'n Vegas

You really are mentally deficient. The mosque and the original witnesses
are changing their stories. That doesn't prove it didn't happen.

In fact this is exactly what I would expect them to do if they had done
this and encountered a backlash, under Taqiyya it is halal to lie to
defend Islam.

Dutch

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Dec 23, 2017, 5:43:14 PM12/23/17
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On 12/23/2017 2:36 PM, risky biz wrote:
> On Saturday, December 23, 2017 at 2:22:51 PM UTC-8, Dutch wrote:
>> On 12/23/2017 2:02 PM, risky biz wrote:
>>> On Saturday, December 23, 2017 at 1:51:39 PM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
>>>> On Saturday, December 23, 2017 at 1:47:01 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Look at where 'dutch' gets his news:
>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rebel_Media
>>>>> . . they're intertwined with the Nazi movement and organize fraudulent donation campaigns.
>>>>
>>>> Typical youtube Islamophobia nonsense. Dutch swallowed the hook yet again! (but Islamophobia isn't real...just ask him!).
>>>>
>>>> https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/montreal-mosque-denies-asking-that-female-construction-workers-be-barred-from-site-1.3720214
>>>
>>> Can you imagine what 'dutch' is doing rightin for an escape clause and thinking, 'Oh, shit! They caught me again!'
>>>
>>
>> Talk about hook, line and sinker.. what proof do you have that the
>> original story was untrue and the denials are truthful? TVA has a Mosque
>> spokesperson appearing to confirm the original story.
>
> That video of the mosque spokesperson didn't confirm anything, liar. They edited it to 20 seconds and your disgusting liar, Ezra Levant, tried to claim that he said things he obviously didn't say.

You have better hearing than me if you can be sure. He's pretty pissed
off about something.

>
>> And it's not like such a demand is implausible. Saudi conservatives have
>> considerable influence in Montreal mosques.
>
> Here we go with 'dutch's' 'even if it didn't happen it COULD have'. What a vile creature. If Muslims are as repulsive as you claim why do you have to repeatedly LIE about them?

Grow the fuck up. I just said the charge is not implausible, if they
were listening to a Saudi imam, which is quite possible.

>
>> In the end you will believe what you want to believe.
>
> Aren't you a perfect example of that, then?

I take that into consideration, do you?

Dutch

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Dec 23, 2017, 6:13:05 PM12/23/17
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Let's agree that we have no use for each other and save everybody the time.

Everyone is doing the expected here. The mosque is denying, people are
changing their stories, the news outlet is therefore retracting the
story and apologizing, which as a new organization they should. The
Islamophobia crowd are engaging in their usual victim hysteria.

fffurken

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Dec 23, 2017, 6:46:48 PM12/23/17
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On Saturday, 23 December 2017 21:58:45 UTC, risky biz wrote:

> 'More than 100 protesters — most of them non-Muslims — gathered in front of the headquarters of TVA Nouvelles Wednesday night, accusing the TV network of routinely broadcasting fake news and fomenting Islamophobia.

lol What a bunch of morons

VegasJerry

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Dec 23, 2017, 9:27:43 PM12/23/17
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That. Pretending that you don't know...

Jerry (lol)

VegasJerry

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Dec 23, 2017, 9:30:03 PM12/23/17
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On Saturday, December 23, 2017 at 2:37:01 PM UTC-8, Dutch wrote:
> On 12/23/2017 2:28 PM, VegasJerry wrote:
> > On Saturday, December 23, 2017 at 2:22:51 PM UTC-8, Dutch wrote:
> >> On 12/23/2017 2:02 PM, risky biz wrote:
> >>> On Saturday, December 23, 2017 at 1:51:39 PM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
> >>>> On Saturday, December 23, 2017 at 1:47:01 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Look at where 'dutch' gets his news:
> >>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rebel_Media
> >>>>> . . they're intertwined with the Nazi movement and organize fraudulent donation campaigns.
> >>>>
> >>>> Typical youtube Islamophobia nonsense. Dutch swallowed the hook yet again! (but Islamophobia isn't real...just ask him!).
> >>>>
> >>>> https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/montreal-mosque-denies-asking-that-female-construction-workers-be-barred-from-site-1.3720214
> >>>
> >>> Can you imagine what 'dutch' is doing rightin for an escape clause and thinking, 'Oh, shit! They caught me again!'
> >>>
> >>
> >> Talk about hook, line and sinker..
> >
> > Yea, that's what we're talking about. Just keep making those back-up noises. You got fooled and now you're playing denial.
> >
> > Jerry (lol) 'n Vegas

> You really are mentally deficient.

But we pegged you, spot-on..

Jerry

(Whimpering deleted...

VegasJerry

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Dec 23, 2017, 9:32:08 PM12/23/17
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On Saturday, December 23, 2017 at 2:37:01 PM UTC-8, Dutch wrote:
> On 12/23/2017 2:28 PM, VegasJerry wrote:
> > On Saturday, December 23, 2017 at 2:22:51 PM UTC-8, Dutch wrote:
> >> On 12/23/2017 2:02 PM, risky biz wrote:
> >>> On Saturday, December 23, 2017 at 1:51:39 PM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
> >>>> On Saturday, December 23, 2017 at 1:47:01 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Look at where 'dutch' gets his news:
> >>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rebel_Media
> >>>>> . . they're intertwined with the Nazi movement and organize fraudulent donation campaigns.
> >>>>
> >>>> Typical youtube Islamophobia nonsense. Dutch swallowed the hook yet again! (but Islamophobia isn't real...just ask him!).
> >>>>
> >>>> https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/montreal-mosque-denies-asking-that-female-construction-workers-be-barred-from-site-1.3720214
> >>>
> >>> Can you imagine what 'dutch' is doing rightin for an escape clause and thinking, 'Oh, shit! They caught me again!'
> >>>
> >>
> >> Talk about hook, line and sinker..
> >
> > Yea, that's what we're talking about. Just keep making those back-up noises. You got fooled and now you're playing denial.
> >
> > Jerry (lol) 'n Vegas

> You really are mentally deficient.

But we pegged you spot-on..

Jerry

(whining deleted...)



Dutch

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Dec 24, 2017, 12:55:47 AM12/24/17
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Your desperate cries for approval are revolting.

Dutch

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Dec 24, 2017, 2:23:49 AM12/24/17
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If this story was a fabrication, which isn't definite but now seems
likely, those responsible should be rooted out and made to face serious
consequences.

risky biz

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Dec 24, 2017, 2:32:48 AM12/24/17
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He wasn't fooled. He's trying to fool others. He still denies that it was a lie when it was already obvious that it was a lie EIGHT DAYS AGO. He is STILL trying to pass it off.

risky biz

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Dec 24, 2017, 2:34:19 AM12/24/17
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Your ethnic bigotry is truly unbelievable. Your SOURCE of the story admitted that it was false. FALSE. And everyone can read the last paragraph below, 'dutch'. NO evidence could be found that the mosque requested any such thing. Your 'hate-Muslims' bigotry is passing over to clinical insanity.

'a Dec. 12 TVA news story — since retracted — claiming that two mosques in Côte-des-Neiges banned women from a construction site outside their doors. Three days after the report aired, TVA issued an apology on its website, admitting that the story was false.

The TVA news network apologized Friday for a controversial and since debunked report on mosques banning women from a nearby construction site . .
Standing a few metres away, Scott Weinstein of the Independent Jewish Voices Canada organization stood with a small group of counter-protesters, the two groups separated by barrier tape and a row of police officers, who also helped to escort Muslims headed to prayers.

“We as Jews know what happens when a religious group or ethnic group is targeted for hate,” he said.
In their statement, TVA offered an apology to those “affected” by the news story.

“The report was based on comments made on camera Tuesday by two entrepreneurs. However, the versions we received from these individuals has changed since yesterday,” the statement said. “TVA Nouvelles regrets this situation and wishes to apologize to the different individuals and viewers who were affected by this news story.”

The company said its management will continue to conduct an internal investigation to verify the steps of the journalistic process undertaken.

The news network issued the statement a day after the Commission de la construction du Québec found no sign whatsoever that anyone associated with two mosques in Côte-des-Neiges asked for women to be excluded from a work site outside their doors.'
http://montrealgazette.com/news/tva-apologizes-for-mosque-story-says-it-will-investigate-journalistic-process

risky biz

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Dec 24, 2017, 2:42:51 AM12/24/17
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On Saturday, December 23, 2017 at 2:37:01 PM UTC-8, Dutch wrote:
> On 12/23/2017 2:28 PM, VegasJerry wrote:
> > On Saturday, December 23, 2017 at 2:22:51 PM UTC-8, Dutch wrote:
> >> On 12/23/2017 2:02 PM, risky biz wrote:
> >>> On Saturday, December 23, 2017 at 1:51:39 PM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
> >>>> On Saturday, December 23, 2017 at 1:47:01 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Look at where 'dutch' gets his news:
> >>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rebel_Media
> >>>>> . . they're intertwined with the Nazi movement and organize fraudulent donation campaigns.
> >>>>
> >>>> Typical youtube Islamophobia nonsense. Dutch swallowed the hook yet again! (but Islamophobia isn't real...just ask him!).
> >>>>
> >>>> https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/montreal-mosque-denies-asking-that-female-construction-workers-be-barred-from-site-1.3720214
> >>>
> >>> Can you imagine what 'dutch' is doing rightin for an escape clause and thinking, 'Oh, shit! They caught me again!'
> >>>
> >>
> >> Talk about hook, line and sinker..
> >
> > Yea, that's what we're talking about. Just keep making those back-up noises. You got fooled and now you're playing denial.
> >
> > Jerry (lol) 'n Vegas
>
> You really are mentally deficient. The mosque and the original witnesses
> are changing their stories. That doesn't prove it didn't happen.
>
> In fact this is exactly what I would expect them to do if they had done
> this and encountered a backlash, under Taqiyya it is halal to lie to
> defend Islam.

Taqiya (you don't even know how to spell it yet you purport to explain it's meaning) isn't even remotely related to what you just said. You're LYING AGAIN. Taqiya allows a Muslim to deny their faith when they are in danger of bodily harm from people like you. I've explained that here to you and your fellow Nazi, 'furkedon', on no less than three different occasions.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taqiya

risky biz

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This imbecile thinks that he can FINALLY admit that it was a lie and preserve his imagined credibility so that he can later return with NEW lies about Muslims.

fffurken

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On Sunday, 24 December 2017 07:42:51 UTC, risky biz wrote:

> > In fact this is exactly what I would expect them to do if they had done
> > this and encountered a backlash, under Taqiyya it is halal to lie to
> > defend Islam.
>
> Taqiya (you don't even know how to spell it yet you purport to explain it's meaning)

lol https://tinyurl.com/y7fyduv6

It has various other names but it would be commonly understood by the way of a joke;

Q. How do you know a Muslim is lying (about Islam) to a non-Muslim?
A. His lips are moving.

risky biz

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Dec 24, 2017, 4:47:45 AM12/24/17
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Serious question- exactly how stupid are you? You could possibly achieve scientific renown and be referenced for many, many years in medical literature.

da pickle

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Dec 24, 2017, 8:53:11 AM12/24/17
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The major thread of the day.

Right at 40 posts ... not a record.

Was even one worth reading?

Post your picks.


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risky biz

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Dec 27, 2017, 12:10:51 AM12/27/17
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On Saturday, December 23, 2017 at 12:48:47 AM UTC-8, Dutch wrote:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Au5ri3AwUw
> Ezra Levant of TheRebel.media reports on a Montreal Mosque pressuring a
> construction company to remove female employees from the area, and the
> mainstream media ignoring the issue.
>
> This is truly regressive.

I guess we could sum up this latest little episode of 'dutch's' lie campaign against the Muslim ethnic group as an attempt to portray members of a Muslim mosque as furious that there were women working near their mosque which failed miserably for the simple reason that the members of the mosque couldn't care less if there were women working near their mosque. Which any normal person not infected with the disease of delusive stereotypes of Muslims would assume to be the case and find the propaganda lie doubtful on it's face. What do you think the odds are that 'dutch' will stop ravenously devouring the laughable 'The Rebel Media'? I'd say ZERO.

Dutch

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Dec 27, 2017, 6:18:11 PM12/27/17
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I didn't make up the story, it was reported in the local press. If the
story was made up then there needs to be consequences. But don't try to
pretend that gender separation is not a major part of Islamic culture.
If that regressive custom spills out into the public realm then I find
that problematic.

risky biz

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Dec 27, 2017, 9:14:08 PM12/27/17
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You didn't link any local news report. You linked 'The Rebel Media', a lying, Islamophobic hate website, because that's where you saw it, a sewer drain you quafe from ravenously for the kind of filth that nurtures your insanity.

I don't need to pretend that gender separation is not a major part of Islamic culture because it isn't a major part of Islamic culture. There is no gender separation in the lives of the great majority of Muslims in the world. You, of course, peddle a literally insane, fabulist, version of the Muslim world as everywhere resembling Saudi Arabia, a medieval, despotic dictatorship propped up by your wonderful 'civilized West', which rules a mere 1.65% of Muslims in the world of which 25% are in open rebellion against them. You had a heyday portraying ISIS as representing Muslims but you've fallen on hard times there as they have been virtually exterminated by MUSLIMS.

Given those obvious and well known facts how in the world did you think you would get any intelligent person to swallow a lie that a Muslim mosque in CANADA demanded that women be excluded from the general vicinity of their mosque? That is clinically insanity.

risky biz

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Dec 27, 2017, 9:19:49 PM12/27/17
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If you're talking about this one the answer is 'no' because it's devoid of content.

fffurken

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Dec 27, 2017, 9:34:53 PM12/27/17
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On Thursday, 28 December 2017 02:14:08 UTC, risky biz wrote:

> I don't need to pretend that gender separation is not a major part of Islamic culture because it isn't a major part of Islamic culture.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwcX5IZbUK8

Dutch

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Dec 28, 2017, 12:47:44 AM12/28/17
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On 12/27/2017 6:14 PM, risky biz wrote:
> On Wednesday, December 27, 2017 at 3:18:11 PM UTC-8, Dutch wrote:
>> On 12/26/2017 9:10 PM, risky biz wrote:
>>> On Saturday, December 23, 2017 at 12:48:47 AM UTC-8, Dutch wrote:
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Au5ri3AwUw
>>>> Ezra Levant of TheRebel.media reports on a Montreal Mosque pressuring a
>>>> construction company to remove female employees from the area, and the
>>>> mainstream media ignoring the issue.
>>>>
>>>> This is truly regressive.
>>>
>>> I guess we could sum up this latest little episode of 'dutch's' lie campaign against the Muslim ethnic group as an attempt to portray members of a Muslim mosque as furious that there were women working near their mosque which failed miserably for the simple reason that the members of the mosque couldn't care less if there were women working near their mosque. Which any normal person not infected with the disease of delusive stereotypes of Muslims would assume to be the case and find the propaganda lie doubtful on it's face. What do you think the odds are that 'dutch' will stop ravenously devouring the laughable 'The Rebel Media'? I'd say ZERO.
>>>
>>
>> I didn't make up the story, it was reported in the local press. If the
>> story was made up then there needs to be consequences. But don't try to
>> pretend that gender separation is not a major part of Islamic culture.
>> If that regressive custom spills out into the public realm then I find
>> that problematic.
>
> You didn't link any local news report. You linked 'The Rebel Media'

That's doesn't mean there wasn't one. There was, and you must know it.

> I don't need to pretend that gender separation is not a major part of Islamic culture because it isn't a major part of Islamic culture. There is no gender separation in the lives of the great majority of Muslims in the world.

Yes there is.

> You had a heyday portraying ISIS as representing Muslims

I never did any such thing, but Isis is part of Islam.

Dutch

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Dec 28, 2017, 4:27:42 AM12/28/17
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This proves beyond a doubt how delusional risky is.

Clave

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Dec 28, 2017, 5:23:38 AM12/28/17
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Are you two dorks trying to moo at each other that gender discrimination
(let's call it what it is) isn't a major part of Western culture?



fffurken

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Dec 28, 2017, 1:52:53 PM12/28/17
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lol ^ Remember the simple formula folks;

1. Seek a false equivalence
2. Play the whataboutery game
3. Defend the Muslims

Also, from the regressiveagenda.com, it's hard to know whether it's 9 or 10. I think from Clam's perspective it's 10, but as Clam's perspective is false I think realistically it's 9.

risky biz

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Dec 28, 2017, 2:44:38 PM12/28/17
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On Thursday, December 28, 2017 at 1:27:42 AM UTC-8, Dutch wrote:

> This proves beyond a doubt how delusional risky is.

2 - 3 hours a week at a mosque isn't 'a major part of Islamic culture', dimwit. Do you think everyone here is as much of a mushroom as you? Anyone can go on YouTube, type in the name of an Islamic country, even Saudi Arabia, along with the words 'street scene', and see men and women walking on the same street. You tried to pass off a lie that a mosque in Canada demanded that any women be cleared from the street outside. You actually thought an intelligent person would believe that. All for the purpose of falsely portraying an ethnic group as vile and despicable. YOU are a clumsy liar and a vile human being.

And notice how right I was that you wouldn't stop clinging to lying, Islamophobic websites like 'The Rebel Media'. Gee, 'dutch'- good luck with your uncontrollable outrage that Muslims have activities for men at a mosque which differs from that for women and children. For pious Muslims women rule the home. Men don't. Get over it. And don't let the mass rape and murder of Muslim Rohingya women in Myanmar as a government policy bother you in the least.

risky biz

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Dec 28, 2017, 2:53:48 PM12/28/17
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On Wednesday, December 27, 2017 at 9:47:44 PM UTC-8, Dutch wrote:
> On 12/27/2017 6:14 PM, risky biz wrote:
> > On Wednesday, December 27, 2017 at 3:18:11 PM UTC-8, Dutch wrote:
> >> On 12/26/2017 9:10 PM, risky biz wrote:
> >>> On Saturday, December 23, 2017 at 12:48:47 AM UTC-8, Dutch wrote:
> >>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Au5ri3AwUw
> >>>> Ezra Levant of TheRebel.media reports on a Montreal Mosque pressuring a
> >>>> construction company to remove female employees from the area, and the
> >>>> mainstream media ignoring the issue.
> >>>>
> >>>> This is truly regressive.
> >>>
> >>> I guess we could sum up this latest little episode of 'dutch's' lie campaign against the Muslim ethnic group as an attempt to portray members of a Muslim mosque as furious that there were women working near their mosque which failed miserably for the simple reason that the members of the mosque couldn't care less if there were women working near their mosque. Which any normal person not infected with the disease of delusive stereotypes of Muslims would assume to be the case and find the propaganda lie doubtful on it's face. What do you think the odds are that 'dutch' will stop ravenously devouring the laughable 'The Rebel Media'? I'd say ZERO.
> >>>
> >>
> >> I didn't make up the story, it was reported in the local press. If the
> >> story was made up then there needs to be consequences. But don't try to
> >> pretend that gender separation is not a major part of Islamic culture.
> >> If that regressive custom spills out into the public realm then I find
> >> that problematic.
> >
> > You didn't link any local news report. You linked 'The Rebel Media'
>
> That's doesn't mean there wasn't one. There was, and you must know it.

You seem to have inadvertently edited my comment, 'dutch'. Let's fix that:

'You didn't link any local news report. You linked 'The Rebel Media', a lying, Islamophobic hate website, because that's where you saw it, a sewer drain you quafe from ravenously for the kind of filth that nurtures your insanity.

The obvious point is that you didn't find this lie at a local Montreal news outlet. You don't live in Montreal. You found it at a lying, Islmophobic website.

> > I don't need to pretend that gender separation is not a major part of Islamic culture because it isn't a major part of Islamic culture. There is no gender separation in the lives of the great majority of Muslims in the world.
>
> Yes there is.

Type the name of 7 or more different Islamic countries along with the words 'street scene' in YpuTube and you'll discover Muslim men and women walking on the same street, MORON.

> > You had a heyday portraying ISIS as representing Muslims
>
> I never did any such thing, but Isis is part of Islam.

ISIS has been exterminated by MUSLIMS, you dumb shit, and you're STILL trying to use it to represent Muslims. Sick.

BillB

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Dec 28, 2017, 2:56:45 PM12/28/17
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On Thursday, December 28, 2017 at 11:44:38 AM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:

>You tried to pass off a lie that a mosque in Canada demanded that any women be >cleared from the street outside.

lol...what a fuckin' moron. And have you noticed that *every time* he gets caught falling for one of these absurd Islamophobic propaganda stories, his response is always something to the effect..."Well, it COULD happen you know!" JFC

And, of course, he found this on "The Rebel", which demonstrates that Dutch was actively seeking out Islamophobic propaganda for his personal, perverted consumption. But he's not an Islamophobe! Just ask him!

How many gullible morons like Dutch do you think gleefully ran to their favorite forum to regurgitate this lie before the story was inevitably debunked? These the are same kind of morons the Russians relied on to get Trump elected with their fake Facebook news.

risky biz

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Dec 28, 2017, 2:58:14 PM12/28/17
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Vomit your stupid shit all you want, you disgusting pig. It's beyond denial that one of your Islamophobic hate websites looks like shit after that ridiculous lie about Muslims. You MUST have been a Zika baby https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zika_fever#/media/File:Microcephaly-comparison-500px.jpg .

fffurken

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Dec 28, 2017, 3:15:55 PM12/28/17
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On Thursday, 28 December 2017 19:58:14 UTC, risky biz wrote:

> Vomit your stupid shit all you want, you disgusting pig. It's beyond denial that one of your Islamophobic hate websites looks like shit after that ridiculous lie about Muslims.

There's no reason to believe it's a lie as opposed to a cover-up, although I wouldn't be particularly interested in the story itself, I mean, Muslims think of females as less than fully human.. who knew! Muslims want to impose their eh, values on everyone else.. who knew!

And now look what's happened, the Islamopologist goon squad are shitting their panties over it.

What would be more interesting (to me) would be the story (from the Rebel) I posted, pointing out the glaring hypocrisy of a "feminist" Islamophile and the PM of Canada. Who, if and when the Canadians elect again I'm officially going to consider it a nation of retarded cucks, just like Sweden is.

VegasJerry

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Dec 28, 2017, 3:17:10 PM12/28/17
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See what I don't ever bother reading his posts?
TFSTTT (Too fucking stupid to talk to).

risky biz

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Dec 28, 2017, 5:16:15 PM12/28/17
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You didn't address the 'disgusting pig' part of my post.

risky biz

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Dec 28, 2017, 5:17:44 PM12/28/17
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I'm not exactly talking to him. That's what 'dutch' does. To burnish his 'furkedon-lite' identity which he thinks is fooling someone.

fffurken

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Dec 28, 2017, 5:30:29 PM12/28/17
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All of your posts are the "disgusting part".

fffurken

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Dec 28, 2017, 6:04:25 PM12/28/17
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On Thursday, 28 December 2017 22:17:44 UTC, risky biz wrote:

> I'm not exactly talking to him. That's what 'dutch' does.

Funny that you should mention that because I do consider someone like Dutch a "glimmer of hope". I felt the same way about Pepe. Both of whom have been anointed the notorious title "Stupid Mutherfucker" by the SC.

But I see them as a glimmer of hope, no matter how faint. Whereas someone like Clam & The Canadian dhimmi I'm convinced will go to their deathbeds remaining closed minded idealogues, unable to be reasoned with. Which is why I approach them differently even if at the bottom of my heart I'm always trying to get people to see the error of their ways, when I argue with them.

Dutch

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Dec 28, 2017, 7:03:43 PM12/28/17
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I was referring to gender separation. As far as I know it is part of
Islam and also Orthodox Judaism.

Nice try at moving the goalposts though..

fffurken

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Dec 28, 2017, 7:30:06 PM12/28/17
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On Friday, 29 December 2017 00:03:43 UTC, Dutch wrote:

> Nice try at moving the goalposts though..

Everyone saw that

Dutch

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Dec 28, 2017, 8:02:49 PM12/28/17
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On 12/28/2017 11:44 AM, risky biz wrote:
> 2 - 3 hours a week at a mosque isn't 'a major part of Islamic culture',

A minute ago it wasn't a part at all, now it's not a *major* part. ok,
that's progress. And you say 2-3 hours a week, I assume you are
excluding the five daily prayers.

Here's a snippet from an Islamic web page about women's prayers:

https://islamqa.info/en/1106
"Women do not have to give adhaan or iqaamah, because adhaan requires
raising the voice, which women are not permitted to do."

Shit like this pisses me off, fuck that. We have enough issues in our
own culture without introducing the concept that women are not permitted
to raise their voices, even to praise God. gtfoh

Dutch

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Dec 28, 2017, 8:05:45 PM12/28/17
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On 12/28/2017 11:53 AM, risky biz wrote:
> On Wednesday, December 27, 2017 at 9:47:44 PM UTC-8, Dutch wrote:
>> On 12/27/2017 6:14 PM, risky biz wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, December 27, 2017 at 3:18:11 PM UTC-8, Dutch wrote:
>>>> On 12/26/2017 9:10 PM, risky biz wrote:
>>>>> On Saturday, December 23, 2017 at 12:48:47 AM UTC-8, Dutch wrote:
>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Au5ri3AwUw
>>>>>> Ezra Levant of TheRebel.media reports on a Montreal Mosque pressuring a
>>>>>> construction company to remove female employees from the area, and the
>>>>>> mainstream media ignoring the issue.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is truly regressive.
>>>>>
>>>>> I guess we could sum up this latest little episode of 'dutch's' lie campaign against the Muslim ethnic group as an attempt to portray members of a Muslim mosque as furious that there were women working near their mosque which failed miserably for the simple reason that the members of the mosque couldn't care less if there were women working near their mosque. Which any normal person not infected with the disease of delusive stereotypes of Muslims would assume to be the case and find the propaganda lie doubtful on it's face. What do you think the odds are that 'dutch' will stop ravenously devouring the laughable 'The Rebel Media'? I'd say ZERO.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I didn't make up the story, it was reported in the local press. If the
>>>> story was made up then there needs to be consequences. But don't try to
>>>> pretend that gender separation is not a major part of Islamic culture.
>>>> If that regressive custom spills out into the public realm then I find
>>>> that problematic.
>>>
>>> You didn't link any local news report. You linked 'The Rebel Media'
>>
>> That's doesn't mean there wasn't one. There was, and you must know it.
>
> You seem to have inadvertently edited my comment,


I did no such thing you lying fuck. The report came from a local news
source. The source I cited referred to that report.


Dutch

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Dec 28, 2017, 8:12:06 PM12/28/17
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The story was not debunked. The story was withdrawn because the sources
could not be confirmed. That could mean a lot of things, only one of
which is that the story was false.

And I am willing to believe shitty un-western things about Islam because
Islam has by and large shown itself to be shitty and un-western. Feel
free to hide your head in the sand so you can maintain your liberal
touchy-feelies.


Dutch

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Dec 28, 2017, 11:21:24 PM12/28/17
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On 12/28/2017 12:17 PM, VegasJerry wrote:
> See what I don't ever bother reading his posts?
> TFSTTT (Too fucking stupid to talk to).

There isn't a regular contributor to this group that hasn't thought that
about you many times. Politically, your heart is the right place, that's
your only redeeming feature.

Dutch

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Dec 28, 2017, 11:25:56 PM12/28/17
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On 12/28/2017 2:16 PM, risky biz wrote:
> You didn't address the 'disgusting pig' part of my post.

There's no point responding to appeals to emotion. Doing so only lowers
one to the same level.


fffurken

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Dec 28, 2017, 11:27:43 PM12/28/17
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On Friday, 29 December 2017 01:02:49 UTC, Dutch wrote:

> We have enough issues in our own culture...

No you don't have enough "issues" in your own culture relating to (gender) egalitarianism, you "feminist" fucking idiot

Similar to how Douglas Murray said (I think to the "reformation of Islam" spouting idiot Harris..) that the "left" ("progressives") have simply run out of racists, which is why they have to invent them, 'Islamophobes' and the like.

Similar to how I tried to illustrate that the "progressive left" will never, EVER give up, with this video - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zu0rP2VWLWw.

Similar to how I (initially) didn't think that someone like Clam, a fully grown adult, would believe in all the (juvenile) "safe spaces" and "trigger warnings" etc crap... but he DOES! Because Clam is a libtard.. from cradle to grave. Understand the nature of the beast, and become not a part of it.
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Dutch

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Dec 28, 2017, 11:30:40 PM12/28/17
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There's nothing phobic about the dislike and/or suspicion about Islam
and it's customs and beliefs. I feel the same way about people like Roy
Moore and his extremist Christian ideas. The difference is that there is
a greater concentration of disturbing ideas and fanatics in the Islamic
world than the Christian one.



fffurken

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Dec 28, 2017, 11:35:25 PM12/28/17
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On Friday, 29 December 2017 04:30:40 UTC, Dutch wrote:

> There's nothing phobic about the dislike and/or suspicion about Islam
> and it's customs and beliefs. I feel the same way about people like Roy
> Moore and his extremist Christian ideas.

"Extremist Christian ideas" aren't a problem, so stop fucking talking about it. Try to say something about Islam without whataboutery, this is a HUGE challenge for you

Dutch

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Dec 28, 2017, 11:36:32 PM12/28/17
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I doubt that.

fffurken

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Dec 28, 2017, 11:41:19 PM12/28/17
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Probably not, but don't take me so literally. I certainly noticed - "gender discrimination (let's call it what it is)" as a shift of the goalposts and I already knew that Clam swallows Muslim semen by the gallon load, he likes it

Dutch

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Dec 28, 2017, 11:45:22 PM12/28/17
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On 12/28/2017 8:27 PM, fffurken wrote:
> On Friday, 29 December 2017 01:02:49 UTC, Dutch wrote:
>
>> We have enough issues in our own culture...
> No you don't have enough "issues" in your own culture relating to (gender) egalitarianism, you "feminist" fucking idiot

I beg to differ. I think we have quite enough issues and challenges wrt
attitudes towards women. Some of it comes out of a legacy of Christian
paternalism, other parts are just a male sense of entitlement. I want
society to keep moving forward, i.e. "progress" towards being more just
and fair, too bad if you don't like it.

Clave

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Dec 28, 2017, 11:50:37 PM12/28/17
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On 12/28/2017 8:25 PM, Dutch wrote:
> On 12/28/2017 2:16 PM, risky biz wrote:
>> You didn't address the 'disgusting pig' part of my post.
>
> There's no point responding to appeals to emotion....

...he said, responding to the appeal to emotion...


Dutch

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Dec 28, 2017, 11:56:33 PM12/28/17
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It's not a challenge for me, it's a problem for you. The reason I point
it out is to relate to the Islamophile, the liberal, in terms he can
understand. If you can oppose people like Roy Moore then you must be
able to understand disliking certain ways of thinking.

If you only repeat 'Islam bad' over and over all you're ever going to
get is "Islamophobe!"

communication = 0

At least my approach has a small hope of eliciting a rational response.

Clave

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Dec 29, 2017, 12:03:47 AM12/29/17
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Like "Shut the fuck up, you condescending Islamophobic douche."


fffurken

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Dec 29, 2017, 12:05:03 AM12/29/17
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On Friday, 29 December 2017 04:45:22 UTC, Dutch wrote:
> On 12/28/2017 8:27 PM, fffurken wrote:
> > On Friday, 29 December 2017 01:02:49 UTC, Dutch wrote:
> >
> >> We have enough issues in our own culture...
> > No you don't have enough "issues" in your own culture relating to (gender) egalitarianism, you "feminist" fucking idiot
>
> I beg to differ. I think we have quite enough issues and challenges wrt
> attitudes towards women. Some of it comes out of a legacy of Christian
> paternalism...

Oh ffs

> other parts are just a male sense of entitlement. I want
> society to keep moving forward, i.e. "progress" towards being more just
> and fair, too bad if you don't like it.

"Moving forward" is all the lunacy we see nowadays, obviously this post - https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rec.gambling.poker/Fji9if0MXVY/c4eqQ58WDgAJ fell on deaf ears

fffurken

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Dec 29, 2017, 12:15:23 AM12/29/17
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On Friday, 29 December 2017 04:56:33 UTC, Dutch wrote:

> > "Extremist Christian ideas" aren't a problem, so stop fucking talking about it. Try to say something about Islam without whataboutery, this is a HUGE challenge for you
> >
>
> It's not a challenge for me, it's a problem for you.

It's a false equivalence, period, end of story. There should _not_ be made a comparison of Islam and Christianity, because it's false, now and forever.

> The reason I point
> it out is to relate to the Islamophile, the liberal, in terms he can
> understand. If you can oppose people like Roy Moore then you must be
> able to understand disliking certain ways of thinking.
>
> If you only repeat 'Islam bad' over and over all you're ever going to
> get is "Islamophobe!"
>
> communication = 0
>
> At least my approach has a small hope of eliciting a rational response.

No one gives you a rational response, except for me.

And I know you like to think of yourself as unique, or whatever, because you get it from "both sides", but you're NOT on my side, you're on THEIR side! lol I've always said this. The fact that they eat their own (for the slightest stray of wrongthink) just makes it that bit more amusing.

risky biz

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Dec 29, 2017, 12:19:54 AM12/29/17
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I'm sure you had some real heart to heart talks with those teenagers in Thailand, scumbag.

risky biz

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Dec 29, 2017, 12:20:52 AM12/29/17
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Have you ever found it disturbing that you continually LIE about Muslims?

risky biz

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Dec 29, 2017, 12:24:14 AM12/29/17
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Jerry often has intelligent things to say, 'dutch'. You never do. LIES are generally not good conductors of anything intelligent.

risky biz

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Dec 29, 2017, 12:32:31 AM12/29/17
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The original SOURCE of the story ADMITTED it was false. You're sick.

Why don't you just start yelling 'Heil Hitler' along with the disgusting pervert, your intellectual equal and fellow traveler?

risky biz

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Dec 29, 2017, 12:37:02 AM12/29/17
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Adhaan isn't a prayer, you fucking moron, and it isn't praise of God. Pathetic. You are preaching about a religion of which you have not even a rudimentary understanding.

Clave

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Dec 29, 2017, 12:41:26 AM12/29/17
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This is just too goddam funny -- fffuckhead actually holding his bigotry
out as some kind of shining example of reasonable, good-faith argumentation.



risky biz

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Dec 29, 2017, 12:41:50 AM12/29/17
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Oh yes, you did, and you just did it again. Those sentences don't disappear unless yopu take the time to remove them. Here is the unedited comment again:

'You didn't link any local news report. You linked 'The Rebel Media', a lying, Islamophobic hate website, because that's where you saw it, a sewer drain you quafe from ravenously for the kind of filth that nurtures your insanity.

'The obvious point is that you didn't find this lie at a local Montreal news outlet. You don't live in Montreal. You found it at a lying, Islamophobic website.'

The report came from a local news
> source. The source I cited referred to that report.

Yes. 'You didn't link any local news report. You linked 'The Rebel Media', a lying, Islamophobic hate website, because that's where you saw it, a sewer drain you quafe from ravenously for the kind of filth that nurtures your insanity.

risky biz

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Dec 29, 2017, 12:44:26 AM12/29/17
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You two talking to each other is like two rabid dogs of the same gender fucking.

risky biz

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Dec 29, 2017, 12:46:51 AM12/29/17
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The two of them are doing what I just finished saying that they do. What a couple of defects.

Dutch

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Dec 29, 2017, 1:06:06 AM12/29/17
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Struck a nerve did I?

I figure that you dislike the religiousy sexist, racist, homophobic,
generally knuckle-dragging way of thinking of Roy Moore and his ilk. Yet
I doubt you think of it as a douchey "phobia" on your part.

Why does a dislike of Islamic customs and ways of thinking rate a phobia
being named after it yet the same feeling about Christians who think
similarly doesn't?

Dutch

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Dec 29, 2017, 1:11:04 AM12/29/17
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I don's see your response as much more rational than the other side.
They're the 'see no evil' monkeys, but you refuse to see that there are
many peaceful, moderate Muslims who want a reform of Islam. It's not
just a wish, they actually exist, but you just dismiss them as
regressives. Not only is your view hopeless, it's wrong.

Dutch

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Dec 29, 2017, 1:12:07 AM12/29/17
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On 12/28/2017 9:19 PM, risky biz wrote:
Appeal to emotion.

Dutch

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Dec 29, 2017, 1:13:21 AM12/29/17
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Doesn't it bother you that you constantly lie about what I say?

BillB

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Dec 29, 2017, 1:16:00 AM12/29/17
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Were there a lot of lies and absurdly fake news stories posted about Roy Moore? I honestly don't remember that. I specifically don't remember anyone claiming that Roy Moore executed his horse for being homosexual. In fact, he pretty much got a complete pass from the white Christian electorate for being a child molester.

Let me further remind you that fundi Christians are about 100x more prevalent in our society than fundi Muslims, so if you are spending much more than 1/100th of your time criticizing Muslims, you're *probably* an Islamophobe.

Clave

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Dec 29, 2017, 1:21:05 AM12/29/17
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On 12/28/2017 10:06 PM, Dutch wrote:
> On 12/28/2017 9:03 PM, Clave wrote:
>> On 12/28/2017 8:56 PM, Dutch wrote:
>>> On 12/28/2017 8:35 PM, fffurken wrote:
>>>> On Friday, 29 December 2017 04:30:40 UTC, Dutch  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> There's nothing phobic about the dislike and/or suspicion about Islam
>>>>> and it's customs and beliefs. I feel the same way about people like
>>>>> Roy
>>>>> Moore and his extremist Christian ideas.
>>>>
>>>> "Extremist Christian ideas" aren't a problem, so stop fucking
>>>> talking about it. Try to say something about Islam without
>>>> whataboutery, this is a HUGE challenge for you
>>>>
>>>
>>> It's not a challenge for me, it's a problem for you. The reason I
>>> point it out is to relate to the Islamophile, the liberal, in terms
>>> he can understand. If you can oppose people like Roy Moore then you
>>> must be able to understand disliking certain ways of thinking.
>>>
>>> If you only repeat 'Islam bad' over and over all you're ever going to
>>> get is "Islamophobe!"
>>>
>>> communication = 0
>>>
>>> At least my approach has a small hope of eliciting a rational response.
>>
>> Like "Shut the fuck up, you condescending Islamophobic douche."
>
> Struck a nerve did I?

Put it this way -- if I can tell that easily that you're doing it, do
you think you're any good at it?

Condescension, I mean -- like when people talk down to you.

OK, that's a given. So sucking at it as bad as you do, why would I be
offended when Uncle Occam sez I'm far more likely to be pointing and
laughing at your sad, condescending Islamophobic ass?





fffurken

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Dec 29, 2017, 1:29:24 AM12/29/17
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On Friday, 29 December 2017 06:11:04 UTC, Dutch wrote:

> you refuse to see that there are many peaceful, moderate Muslims who want a reform of Islam.

Cite?

Dutch

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Dec 29, 2017, 1:51:10 AM12/29/17
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Give a cite for that. In the retraction I read they said they withdrew
the story because the reporters were not able to confirm it with their
source. It might have been false but I haven't read any evidence of
that. Maybe you're confusing it with what you WANT to believe.

> Why don't you just start yelling 'Heil Hitler' along with the disgusting pervert, your intellectual equal and fellow traveler?

Why am I obliged to respect Islamic beliefs? They're sexist and
homophobic, and oppose secular law being above religious law. I don't
respect Christian fundamentalists like Roy Moore either, is that a
phobia too?


Dutch

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Dec 29, 2017, 1:58:06 AM12/29/17
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No comment on women being prohibited from raising their voices? That is
the point. That's fucking evil. It's like declawing a cat.

What do think would happen in a traditional Muslim family if a wife got
pissed off and berated her husband calling him a stupid, lazy piece of
shit? What do you think the stupid, lazy piece of shit would do? Would
he smarten up and get a job to please his wife and help the family?


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