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GM

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Nov 19, 2019, 6:56:30 PM11/19/19
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Yup...it's true...19 November is, per United Nations edict, World Toilet Day...who knew...!!!???

And REMEMBER, kids - it was competitive free - market CAPITALISM that brought us the wonder and ease of modern sanitary plumbing...ain't it GRAND...!!!???

I assume that all rfc'ers - with the exception, say, of John Kuthe and our two Oztard trolls - have adequate sanitary facilities in their dwellings...

Of course, some US places are moving *backwards* as regards sanitation, e.g. the streets of San Francisco, Portland, Seattle and Los Angeles are now littered with the muck and feces of their openly defecating homeless peeps. Natcherly all of those places are run by liberal Democrats, who of course turn *everything* they touch into S-H-I-T...

Here ya go:

https://www.un.org/en/events/toiletday/

"What is World Toilet Day all About?

Toilets save lives, because human waste spreads killer diseases. World Toilet Day is about inspiring action to tackle the global sanitation crisis.

World Toilet Day is celebrated on 19th November every year. It’s all about inspiring action to tackle the global sanitation crisis and help achieve Sustainable Development Goal 6 (SDG 6), which promises sanitation for all by 2030. World Toilet Day 2019 is drawing attention to those people being left behind without sanitation

2019 Theme: Leaving No One Behind

A toilet is not just a toilet. It’s a life-saver, dignity-protector and opportunity-maker. Whoever you are, wherever you are, sanitation is your human right. And yet, today, 4.2 billion people live without safely managed sanitation. How can anyone lift themselves out of poverty without sanitation? We must expand access to safe toilets and leave no one behind.

What is 'Safely Managed Sanitation'?

When someone has a 'safely managed sanitation service', it means they use hygienic toilet facilities that are not shared with other households and where excreta are either separated from human contact and safely disposed of in situ or transported and treated off-site, thereby protecting people and the environment from disease agents. Examples include flush/pour flush toilets connected to piped sewer systems; septic tanks or latrine pits; ventilated improved pit latrines; composting toilets; or pit latrines with slab covers.

Key facts:

4.2 billion people live without safely managed sanitation – more than half the global population.

673 million people still practise open defecation worldwide.

Inadequate sanitation is estimated to cause 432,000 diarrheal deaths every year and is a major factor in diseases such as intestinal worms, trachoma and schistosomiasis.

297,000 children under five are estimated to die each year from diarrhea as a result of unsafe drinking water, sanitation, and hand hygiene.

Children under the age of five living in countries affected by protracted conflict are, on average, nearly 20 times more likely to die from diarrheal diseases caused by a lack of safe water, sanitation and hygiene than by direct violence.

Loss of productivity to water- and sanitation-related diseases costs many countries up to 5% of GDP..."

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Bruce

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Nov 19, 2019, 6:59:11 PM11/19/19
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On Tue, 19 Nov 2019 15:56:26 -0800 (PST), GM
<gregorymorr...@gmail.com> wrote:

>Yup...it's true...19 November is, per United Nations edict, World Toilet Day...who knew...!!!???
>
>And REMEMBER, kids - it was competitive free - market CAPITALISM that brought us the wonder and ease of modern sanitary plumbing...ain't it GRAND...!!!???

Did capitalism also bring us your GG diarrhea posts?

Cindy Hamilton

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Nov 20, 2019, 5:49:31 AM11/20/19
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On Tuesday, November 19, 2019 at 6:56:30 PM UTC-5, GM wrote:
> Yup...it's true...19 November is, per United Nations edict, World Toilet Day...who knew...!!!???
>
> And REMEMBER, kids - it was competitive free - market CAPITALISM that brought us the wonder and ease of modern sanitary plumbing...ain't it GRAND...!!!???

Of course it took the government to provide sewerage systems that made
modern sanitary plumbing useful, notably in places where there isn't
enough room for a leach field.

Cindy Hamilton

dsi1

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Nov 20, 2019, 1:20:31 PM11/20/19
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On Tuesday, November 19, 2019 at 1:56:30 PM UTC-10, GM wrote:
> Yup...it's true...19 November is, per United Nations edict, World Toilet Day...who knew...!!!???
>
> And REMEMBER, kids - it was competitive free - market CAPITALISM that brought us the wonder and ease of modern sanitary plumbing...ain't it GRAND...!!!???
>
> I assume that all rfc'ers - with the exception, say, of John Kuthe and our two Oztard trolls - have adequate sanitary facilities in their dwellings...
>
> Of course, some US places are moving *backwards* as regards sanitation, e.g. the streets of San Francisco, Portland, Seattle and Los Angeles are now littered with the muck and feces of their openly defecating homeless peeps. Natcherly all of those places are run by liberal Democrats, who of course turn *everything* they touch into S-H-I-T...
>

I fixed my toilet yesterday. I bought a bunch of hardware from the store but that turned out to be a bunch of crap. The flapper valve that was supposed to fit my toilet, didn't. The push button side mount handle was a totally irrational design that wouldn't work in any application. I just dumped the $30 worth of parts.

I ordered a couple of handles from Amazon, got it yesterday and fixed the toilet. It cost $11. If I was to get another toilet, I'd stay away from a side mount handle design.

https://www.businessinsider.com/bill-gates-foundation-helps-invent-tiger-toilets-powered-by-worms-2019-1

graham

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Nov 20, 2019, 2:53:59 PM11/20/19
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On 2019-11-19 4:56 p.m., GM wrote:
> Yup...it's true...19 November is, per United Nations edict, World Toilet Day...who knew...!!!???
>
> And REMEMBER, kids - it was competitive free - market CAPITALISM that brought us the wonder and ease of modern sanitary plumbing...ain't it GRAND...!!!???
>
Yes, considering the fact that when the system was invented and
developed, Free Market Capitalism had small children working in coal
mines and as chimney sweeps.

Cindy Hamilton

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Nov 20, 2019, 2:55:12 PM11/20/19
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I've had side-mount handles on my toilets for decades, without problem.
Never a push button, though.

Cindy Hamilton

Dave Smith

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Nov 20, 2019, 3:13:21 PM11/20/19
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On 2019-11-20 1:20 p.m., dsi1 wrote:

> I fixed my toilet yesterday. I bought a bunch of hardware from the
> store but that turned out to be a bunch of crap. The flapper valve
> that was supposed to fit my toilet, didn't. The push button side
> mount handle was a totally irrational design that wouldn't work in
> any application. I just dumped the $30 worth of parts.
>
> I ordered a couple of handles from Amazon, got it yesterday and fixed
> the toilet. It cost $11. If I was to get another toilet, I'd stay
> away from a side mount handle design.
>
It's always a good idea when buying plumbing fixtures to consider the
availability of replacement parts and complexity or repairs.

On a related note, my brother and his wife had their bathroom remodelled
about 10 years ago. SiL insisted on the sink her friend talked her into.
It is nice looking. It is rectangular, with straight sides and a level
bottom. it looks nice. I had to wash my hands in it after helping with
a really dirty job there. It was more work to clean the sink out after
than it had been to clean all that greasy, gritty stuff off my hands
because flat bottomed sinks don't drain.


Cindy Hamilton

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Nov 20, 2019, 3:18:22 PM11/20/19
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I've seen some very pretty "vessel" sinks, but I'd never have one. Our
bathroom sink and vanity top are molded together in one piece. Very
easy to clean.

Cindy Hamilton

dsi1

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Nov 20, 2019, 3:43:35 PM11/20/19
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My guess is that it's going to be tough to find a replacement valve for the showers when they start leaking. My wife would like a seamless sink. It's a nice looking sink but she hates it.

As far as your brother's sink goes, it sounds pretty classy. My guess is that the sink isn't really flat, but slightly concave. With a design like that, the installation would be critical to make sure everything is level. I'd make it slightly off level so that the water flows towards the drain.

itsjoan...@webtv.net

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Nov 20, 2019, 3:47:09 PM11/20/19
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On Wednesday, November 20, 2019 at 12:20:31 PM UTC-6, dsi1 wrote:
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> I fixed my toilet yesterday. I bought a bunch of hardware from the store but that turned out to be a bunch of crap. The flapper valve that was supposed to fit my toilet, didn't. The push button side mount handle was a totally irrational design that wouldn't work in any application. I just dumped the $30 worth of parts.
>
Why didn't you return those parts and get a refund?

itsjoan...@webtv.net

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Nov 20, 2019, 3:52:56 PM11/20/19
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On Wednesday, November 20, 2019 at 2:18:22 PM UTC-6, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
> I've seen some very pretty "vessel" sinks, but I'd never have one. Our
> bathroom sink and vanity top are molded together in one piece. Very
> easy to clean.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>
I've seen those, too, and yes they are quite pretty but I don't think you
could give me one even if it were free. I can't prove it, but I bet mold
would easily form at the outside base of a vessel sink if you didn't keep
it spotless and bone dry.

My sink and vanity top are all one piece and I just love it. Easy as pie
to keep clean and when I remodeled my bathroom two years ago I opted for
a banjo sink/countertop. Fantastic as far as I'm concerned!

dsi1

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Nov 20, 2019, 4:15:43 PM11/20/19
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I had bent up the arm. I didn't feel up to trying to get the parts back into the packaging and in a sellable condition. I don't have a problem with that but sometimes it just ain't worth it. My assumption is that a lot of hardware products are made so you can't get it back into the packaging. Also, I learned a very important lesson - at a bargain price of only $30.

ImStillMags

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Nov 20, 2019, 4:22:25 PM11/20/19
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The Gated Foundation has been working on this problem for a while now. They have announced a solution.

https://www.ecowatch.com/bill-gates-foundation-toilet-2618322513.html?share_id=4134419&fbclid=IwAR2F8v_OpJRkpYd42XQtyCHY6MzBb6T_IgJj5Gc1PipP7AUu4DzIUR3LxzQ

itsjoan...@webtv.net

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Nov 20, 2019, 4:28:41 PM11/20/19
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On Wednesday, November 20, 2019 at 3:22:25 PM UTC-6, ImStillMags wrote:
>
> The Gated Foundation has been working on this problem for a while now. They have announced a solution.
>
> https://www.ecowatch.com/bill-gates-foundation-toilet-2618322513.html?share_id=4134419&fbclid=IwAR2F8v_OpJRkpYd42XQtyCHY6MzBb6T_IgJj5Gc1PipP7AUu4DzIUR3LxzQ
>
I know there are composting toilets that can be used in motorhomes. They're
not cheap but seem to do a jim dandy job composting waste and with no odor.

GM

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Nov 20, 2019, 4:55:21 PM11/20/19
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Very silly comment, graham...

In those Victorian times, poor children very commonly worked so as to assist their families, has naught to do with the advent of modern sanitation...

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Ed Pawlowski

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Nov 20, 2019, 5:26:24 PM11/20/19
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Modern technology put an end to that. Now they work in lithium mines.

Ed Pawlowski

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Nov 20, 2019, 5:35:38 PM11/20/19
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Yes, I don't think they look that good myself but it was quite the
craze, maybe still is. I'd never have one.

One bathroom has the molded one piece. The other has two under mount.
The faucets though, have handles, not voice activated.

Dave Smith

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Nov 20, 2019, 5:49:04 PM11/20/19
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On 2019-11-20 3:43 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
> On Wednesday, November 20, 2019 at 10:13:21 AM UTC-10, Dave Smith

> My guess is that it's going to be tough to find a replacement valve
> for the showers when they start leaking. My wife would like a
> seamless sink. It's a nice looking sink but she hates it.

I had to get my shower tap replaced a couple years ago. The old one had
cracked. I had a plumber do it, but I had to first remove the vanity
and cut the whole in the wall to access it... then repair the wall and
but the vanity back.
>
> As far as your brother's sink goes, it sounds pretty classy. My guess
> is that the sink isn't really flat, but slightly concave. With a
> design like that, the installation would be critical to make sure
> everything is level. I'd make it slightly off level so that the water
> flows towards the drain.

Classy? Well, it looked nice when it was clean. There is a reason why
most basins are sloped.



dsi1

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Nov 20, 2019, 5:58:56 PM11/20/19
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Classy is not always practical. When my brother-in-laws redid our bath, they installed inline shut-off valves. It's behind the toilet and covered with a snap-on access panel. The stinkin' cats like to pry the panel off and explore the space behind the wall. I have always wondered what's goes on behind there. One of our cats went missing so maybe she got in there and expired. These days, I no longer bother putting the panel back in place. Stinkin' cats!

itsjoan...@webtv.net

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Nov 20, 2019, 6:24:15 PM11/20/19
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On Wednesday, November 20, 2019 at 4:58:56 PM UTC-6, dsi1 wrote:
>
> installed inline shut-off valves. It's behind the toilet and covered with a snap-on access panel. The stinkin' cats like to pry the panel off and explore the space behind the wall. One of our cats went missing so maybe she got in there and expired.
>
If she had expired back there, you'd know it and so would your neighbors.

dsi1

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Nov 20, 2019, 10:31:39 PM11/20/19
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All I know is that a cat has vanished from our house. It's a mystery.

Cindy Hamilton

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Nov 21, 2019, 5:52:26 AM11/21/19
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The porcelain ones are nothing to write home about, but some of the
glass ones are absolutely beautiful.

Cindy Hamilton

Cindy Hamilton

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Nov 21, 2019, 5:54:04 AM11/21/19
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Or you could secure (or replace) the access panel. Are you completely
helpless?

Cindy Hamilton

Bruce

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Nov 21, 2019, 5:56:02 AM11/21/19
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He's part Asian, you know.

penm...@aol.com

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Nov 21, 2019, 7:57:04 AM11/21/19
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On Wed, 20 Nov 2019 "itsjoannotjoann wrote:
>On Wednesday, November 20, 2019 Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>
>> I've seen some very pretty "vessel" sinks, but I'd never have one. Our
>> bathroom sink and vanity top are molded together in one piece. Very
>> easy to clean.
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
>>
>I've seen those, too, and yes they are quite pretty but I don't think you
>could give me one even if it were free. I can't prove it, but I bet mold
>would easily form at the outside base of a vessel sink if you didn't keep
>it spotless and bone dry.

I haven't heard that term. what's a "vessel sink"?

>My sink and vanity top are all one piece and I just love it. Easy as pie
>to keep clean and when I remodeled my bathroom two years ago I opted for
>a banjo sink/countertop. Fantastic as far as I'm concerned!

A banjo sink I presume is for deliverence hilly billys. LOL
Our main bathroom has a one piece molded sink over the vanity, has a
large oval basin, was here from the last owners, a very nice set up
but it had a cheap American Standard faucet that constantly needed
washers replaced.... changed it to a lovely washerless Koler faucet.

We remodled the second bathroom and installed a pedistal sink with the
same Kohler faucet... that bathroom has a washer and dryer rather than
a tub. That bathroom has the best seat in the house:
https://postimg.cc/gallery/xif57c48/

penm...@aol.com

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Nov 21, 2019, 8:02:13 AM11/21/19
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Casa de Masa

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Nov 21, 2019, 8:27:13 AM11/21/19
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penm...@aol.com Sheldon was thinking very hard :
> That bathroom has the best seat in the house:
> https://imgur.com/a/N3fxZ
>
HaHa!

Cindy Hamilton

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Nov 21, 2019, 9:01:59 AM11/21/19
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On Thursday, November 21, 2019 at 7:57:04 AM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
> On Wed, 20 Nov 2019 "itsjoannotjoann wrote:
> >On Wednesday, November 20, 2019 Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >>
> >> I've seen some very pretty "vessel" sinks, but I'd never have one. Our
> >> bathroom sink and vanity top are molded together in one piece. Very
> >> easy to clean.
> >>
> >> Cindy Hamilton
> >>
> >I've seen those, too, and yes they are quite pretty but I don't think you
> >could give me one even if it were free. I can't prove it, but I bet mold
> >would easily form at the outside base of a vessel sink if you didn't keep
> >it spotless and bone dry.
>
> I haven't heard that term. what's a "vessel sink"?

It looks like a bowl sitting on top of a cabinet.

<https://www.amazon.com/KINGO-HOME-Counter-Porcelain-Bathroom/dp/B071DF64W7>

Cindy Hamilton

Ed Pawlowski

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Nov 21, 2019, 9:48:42 AM11/21/19
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On 11/21/2019 7:56 AM, penm...@aol.com wrote:
> On Wed, 20 Nov 2019 "itsjoannotjoann wrote:
>> On Wednesday, November 20, 2019 Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>
>>> I've seen some very pretty "vessel" sinks, but I'd never have one. Our
>>> bathroom sink and vanity top are molded together in one piece. Very
>>> easy to clean.
>>>
>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>
>> I've seen those, too, and yes they are quite pretty but I don't think you
>> could give me one even if it were free. I can't prove it, but I bet mold
>> would easily form at the outside base of a vessel sink if you didn't keep
>> it spotless and bone dry.
>
> I haven't heard that term. what's a "vessel sink"?

The stupid bowl that sits on top of the vanity so you can splash all
over the top and it won't go to the drain. Like using a big pasta or
salad bowl to wash up in.

Style over substance.

Ed Pawlowski

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Nov 21, 2019, 10:01:22 AM11/21/19
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On 11/21/2019 8:02 AM, penm...@aol.com wrote:
>
> Can always go to using "Family Cloth".
> https://www.buzzfeed.com/terripous/what-is-the-family-cloth-and-why-should-you-use-it-an
>

Bathroom tissue was invented so we don't have to have a pail of cloths
around. Paper good.

graham

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Nov 21, 2019, 10:10:12 AM11/21/19
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jmcquown

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Nov 21, 2019, 10:10:48 AM11/21/19
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An apt description, Ed! For Sheldon, they are like these:

https://www.homedepot.com/b/Bath-Bathroom-Sinks-Vessel-Sinks/N-5yc1vZbz9i

They look very stylish but I can't imagine having to clean the
undersides of the exposed basin constantly.

Jill

Ed Pawlowski

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Nov 21, 2019, 10:33:34 AM11/21/19
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Worse that I thought. Work for a day and only afford one meal? Slaves
did better.

graham

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Nov 21, 2019, 10:46:28 AM11/21/19
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Presumably Morrow approves of this egregious example of unchecked, free
market capitalism.

Terry Coombs

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Nov 21, 2019, 10:58:15 AM11/21/19
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On 11/20/2019 2:18 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Wednesday, November 20, 2019 at 3:13:21 PM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2019-11-20 1:20 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
>>
>>> I fixed my toilet yesterday. I bought a bunch of hardware from the
>>> store but that turned out to be a bunch of crap. The flapper valve
>>> that was supposed to fit my toilet, didn't. The push button side
>>> mount handle was a totally irrational design that wouldn't work in
>>> any application. I just dumped the $30 worth of parts.
>>>
>>> I ordered a couple of handles from Amazon, got it yesterday and fixed
>>> the toilet. It cost $11. If I was to get another toilet, I'd stay
>>> away from a side mount handle design.
>>>
>> It's always a good idea when buying plumbing fixtures to consider the
>> availability of replacement parts and complexity or repairs.
>>
>> On a related note, my brother and his wife had their bathroom remodelled
>> about 10 years ago. SiL insisted on the sink her friend talked her into.
>> It is nice looking. It is rectangular, with straight sides and a level
>> bottom. it looks nice. I had to wash my hands in it after helping with
>> a really dirty job there. It was more work to clean the sink out after
>> than it had been to clean all that greasy, gritty stuff off my hands
>> because flat bottomed sinks don't drain.
> I've seen some very pretty "vessel" sinks, but I'd never have one. Our
> bathroom sink and vanity top are molded together in one piece. Very
> easy to clean.
>
> Cindy Hamilton

  One of ours is made that way , the other is a top-mount bowl very
much like an old timey wash bowl (and the cabinetry under it is an
antique vanity/wash stand) . The whole setup is very late-1800's . Goes
well with the claw foot tub ...

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Yes , I'm old
and crochety - and armed .
Get outta my woods !

jmcquown

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Nov 21, 2019, 11:06:08 AM11/21/19
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Pretty but I wouldn't want one.

Jill

itsjoan...@webtv.net

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Nov 21, 2019, 11:09:20 AM11/21/19
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On Thursday, November 21, 2019 at 6:57:04 AM UTC-6, Sheldon wrote:
> On Wed, 20 Nov 2019 "itsjoannotjoann wrote:
> >
> I haven't heard that term. what's a "vessel sink"?
>
Here are two pictures of them. You can go plain jane or as fancy as your
wallet allows.

https://i.postimg.cc/ncT6086w/Vessel-sink-1.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/G3fDY9pM/Vessel-sink-2.jpg

> >My sink and vanity top are all one piece and I just love it. Easy as pie
> >to keep clean and when I remodeled my bathroom two years ago I opted for
> >a banjo sink/countertop. Fantastic as far as I'm concerned!
>
> A banjo sink I presume is for deliverence hilly billys.
>
Here's a picture of a banjo countertop. It's a great solution for tiny
1920's bathrooms seriously lacking in counter space. This picture is very,
very similar to mine.

https://i.postimg.cc/Kzv9K4YG/Banjo-Countertop.jpg

Older homes had the 5-gallon tank toilets and when you remodel and put in a
1 1/2 gallon flush toilet the tank sits several inches away from the back
wall. A banjo countertop solves that problem and gives more continuous
countertop storage. But now they've come up with a gizmo flange that allows
you to use the existing waste pipe without moving it and allows the new toilets
to sit back against the wall like the old water hog 5 gallon models.

itsjoan...@webtv.net

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Nov 21, 2019, 11:10:42 AM11/21/19
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On Thursday, November 21, 2019 at 7:02:13 AM UTC-6, Sheldon wrote:
>
> Can always go to using "Family Cloth".
> https://www.buzzfeed.com/terripous/what-is-the-family-cloth-and-why-should-you-use-it-an
>
It still requires the use of a flushing toilet.

GM

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Nov 21, 2019, 11:57:23 AM11/21/19
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Why would you assume that, graham...I'm just stating some historical *facts*...here is my *honest* Christian sentiment regarding slavery:

Exodus 21/16:

“Whoever steals a man and sells him, and anyone found in possession of him, shall be put to death..."


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Greg

dsi1

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Nov 21, 2019, 12:16:05 PM11/21/19
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The kats also keep opening a small door to a closet in the kitchen. I suppose I could install a security door in both locations. It hardly seems worth the trouble. Perhaps I could put up a high voltage electric fence. Would that make you happy?

Cindy Hamilton

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Nov 21, 2019, 12:52:00 PM11/21/19
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I'm not unhappy. You don't seem to be able to deal with the problem except
by surrendering to a pack of flea-bitten moggies.

How about a simple latch? One that requires thumbs to operate.

Cindy Hamilton

Terry Coombs

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Nov 21, 2019, 1:06:07 PM11/21/19
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  Tweach Hizzone .

dsi1

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Nov 21, 2019, 3:21:00 PM11/21/19
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The kats going into a little hidey-hole is not a problem. As I said, I don't even put the access panel on anymore. My problem is they treat me and my wife like we're super-star celebrities. They want to be near us whenever they see us. They need our presence to feel happy. I try to comb my hair in the morning and they're in my face on the sink trying to get my attention. They get in the way. If it was up to me they can spend all their time in hiding. That would be just great.

Bruce

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Nov 22, 2019, 1:45:49 AM11/22/19
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You reject unconditional love? You're a hard man!

dsi1

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I wish to be worshiped from afar.

dsi1

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On Wednesday, November 20, 2019 at 1:24:15 PM UTC-10, itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:
> On Wednesday, November 20, 2019 at 4:58:56 PM UTC-6, dsi1 wrote:
> >
> > installed inline shut-off valves. It's behind the toilet and covered with a snap-on access panel. The stinkin' cats like to pry the panel off and explore the space behind the wall. One of our cats went missing so maybe she got in there and expired.
> >
> If she had expired back there, you'd know it and so would your neighbors.

https://wsvn.com/news/us-world/body-of-grocery-store-employee-missing-for-10-years-found-behind-stores-cooler/

https://wsvn.com/news/us-world/body-of-long-dead-navy-veteran-found-in-his-suburban-dallas-apartment/
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