I always buy my cheese there.
Great price! 2 lbs for $5.99 or do you mean $5.99/pound?
A Costco is being built near me. I belong to Sam's Club already, so I am
not sure what I'll do when Costco opens. I hear they're a notch up from
Sam's Club.
I have both Sam's and Costco memberships. I have a Sam's 10 minutes away
from me, but the nearest Costco is about an hour but is on a route I get
to about once a month. There is a fair amount of overlap between the
two, but Costco does seem to be a bit better on many items quality wise.
If they were equidistant from me I would probably drop Sam's.
>On Mon, 27 Jun 2011 17:13:50 -0400, Goomba wrote:
>
>> A Costco is being built near me. I belong to Sam's Club already, so I am
>> not sure what I'll do when Costco opens. I hear they're a notch up from
>> Sam's Club.
>
>CostCo carries quality. Sams doesn't.
Bullshit. Only the dwarf would think canned beans at Sams are
different from those sold at Costco. All those big box stores carry
the same low end to medioce food products, none are gourmet... they
don't even sell decent bread... that's why he eats that low end white
bread I'd be ashamed to feed critters.
I'm afraid I have to generally agree with Sqwertz. I have both Sam's and
Costco memberships and while there are many products that are common to
both, Costco typically has higher end products and a larger selection of
specialty food items. Even for some of the items that are in common
there are differences, such as Classico pasta sauce where both carry
3pks of Classico, Sam's carries just the tomato/basil sauce, while
Costco has a mixed variety 3pk.
I'll agree, it's great cheese but, you got a fantastic buy.
We purchased some at our local Costco (Southern Ontario, Canada) and,
although I can't remember the exact price, I know it was more than
$5.99 and that was for a 250 gram piece.
We're going to Costco tomorrow so I'll be sure to check.
Ross.
I love that cheese, but at my Costco it's $5.99 a pound, not a block.
The two pound bricks are $11.98 Still quite a bit less expensive than
the cheese shop for the same brand of cheese.
marcella
> I love that cheese, but at my Costco it's $5.99 a pound, not a block.
> The two pound bricks are $11.98 Still quite a bit less expensive than
> the cheese shop for the same brand of cheese.
How long has it been aged?
nb
We had memberships to both but, unfortunately Sam's didn't last too
long in Canada. I guess they couldn't compete with Costco up here.
There was some overlap in products but, Sam's had some items that we
liked and can no longer get.
Also, Sam's had some unbelievable mark downs that Costco doesn't
offer.
One example, Sam's had a couple of skids of Lexmark wireless 4 in 1
printers for $38.00 that were complete with full size XL ink
cartridges. Those printers cost less than a pair of the same
cartridges for my printer so I bought three printers.
We did save considerably more than the cost of membership at both
places and while we do shop regularly at Costco, there are things
about Sam's that we miss.
Ross.
My suggestion is that you get the Costco membership early on because
you'll have less competition from other shoppers until the membership
builds up. I bought a membership to Sam's Club just so I could get some
tires. I hate to buy tires from Costco because they're so busy and you
have to wait so long.
I think that Costco has a better selection of stuff but the truth is
that I'd just go to whichever one is nearer or more convenient.
I bought some Dubliner cheese from Costco and it was tasty. It was about
9 bucks for 2lbs. I got the one with ale and it had crunchy crystals in
it. Neat!
To me most of the difference was the distance to the store. Once I got
there it was mostly variation by brand carrying much the same sort of
items. When we moved closer to Sams we ended up letting our Costco
membership lapse. Then another move where Costco was closer we let our
Sams carb lapse and switched back.
snip
>I've tried that Kerrygold from my local Costco but Balderson's is at least
>as good and Costco sells large lumps of that.
>Graham
>
Balderson's??? I haven't seen that. I'll watch for it.
Janet US
Pasta sauce in a jar is high quality food?
I think I will stick to the produce store for quality. I like Costco for
the junk foods like: Hersey candy bars, Milky Ways, Snickers... My mistake
snickers is a high quality candy bar. Sometimes a case of Gatorade... Yes,
I love junk foods and Costco's specializes in junk foods :)
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I have noticed Costco has reduced the shelf space in half for printer inks.
If the trend is like me who now owns an iPad or other touch device,
printing anything is becoming obsolete. The ink on both of my printers have
dried up. I will not be replacing them. If I need something printed which
is unlikely, I will go to Office Max or the local library.
Classico brand is.
>
> I think I will stick to the produce store for quality. I like Costco for
> the junk foods like: Hersey candy bars, Milky Ways, Snickers... My mistake
> snickers is a high quality candy bar. Sometimes a case of Gatorade... Yes,
> I love junk foods and Costco's specializes in junk foods :)
The produce section as well as the meat section of the Costcos I've been
to (3 or 4) have all been top notch.
> I have noticed Costco has reduced the shelf space in half for printer inks.
> If the trend is like me who now owns an iPad or other touch device,
> printing anything is becoming obsolete. The ink on both of my printers have
> dried up. I will not be replacing them. If I need something printed which
> is unlikely, I will go to Office Max or the local library.
Neither one of my kids have printers (at home) either, but I think
they're still a must. I'd still rather read my recipe from a piece of
paper instead of the computer, but I'm thinking that some kind of
tablet might be nice to have. I'd want to be able to upload my
newsreader to it, but I don't know enough about them yet to know if I
can or not.
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Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.
><Ross@home> wrote:
>> One example, Sam's had a couple of skids of Lexmark wireless 4 in 1
>> printers for $38.00 that were complete with full size XL ink
>> cartridges. Those printers cost less than a pair of the same
>> cartridges for my printer so I bought three printers.
>> We did save considerably more than the cost of membership at both
>> places and while we do shop regularly at Costco, there are things
>> about Sam's that we miss.
>>
>> Ross.
>
>I have noticed Costco has reduced the shelf space in half for printer inks.
>If the trend is like me who now owns an iPad or other touch device,
>printing anything is becoming obsolete.
Just curious, but why would you print so much less that you could do
away with a printer altogether? I have an iPad and an Android phone,
but still print things all the time. Damn if I am going to plop either
unit on the kitchen counter with a recipe or hand one off for a list
of meds at one of my doc visits.
>The ink on both of my printers have
>dried up. I will not be replacing them. If I need something printed which
>is unlikely, I will go to Office Max or the local library.
Long walk.
We print and scan all the time - fax, too. Not everyone can use
electronic transfer of data all the time.
And here at the office we print scan and fax a lot, also. In fact,
there is a repairman here right now replacing the fuser on an old
workhorse of an HP 5Si.
Ain't nothing paperless about my house or my office.
Boron
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I either print off or type up recipes and print them too. I keep a file in
my kitchen and I work on those recipes. As I am working on them I write
notes onto the print outs until I am happy and then type them up again and
then they are done pint them off again and they are kept in a 'good' file.
--
--
Perhaps a little potting soil brushes off an ipad ok, but I sure would
not want to use an expensive tablet device in my workshop. Disposable
printed copies of reference materials are far easier to use when you're
rebuilding a tractor or working on a truck.
> Classico brand is.
I like Classico too. I used their sun dried tomato pesto for pizza
red sauce and always had one on hand, but now my local grocery stores
don't carry it.
>
RU NUTZ? It's exactly the same friggin' JARRED sauce... just a
different flavor... and next week they will switch. Classico JARRED
sauce is slop no matter the flavor or where purchased.
Btw, finally, after listening to all the tawk today I tried Ro-Tel Hot
diced tomatos w/habaneros, the first time I tried a Ro-Tel product...
they SUCK! They're hot (too hot for me) but are devoid of any flavor
whatsoever, the quality of the tomatoes is awful, not even close to
red ripe, half the dice are smushed, too much skin and seeds, and very
watery, no flavor, just HOT! Great Value (Walmart brand) Fire
Roasted Tex Mex Style Diced Tomatoes are much better in every respect,
excellent quality tomatoes (fire roasted makes a huge improvement),
not all smushed, and in tomato puree instead of watery... contains
onion, garlic, and instead of habanero it contains jalapeno and
anaheim peppers, very flavorful, I enjoyed these... especially since
the can is 25% larger and Walmart's costs half as much as Ro-Tel.
Ro-Tel is a crap product, I won't be buying it again.
snip
Great Value (Walmart brand) Fire
>Roasted Tex Mex Style Diced Tomatoes are much better in every respect,
>excellent quality tomatoes (fire roasted makes a huge improvement),
>not all smushed, and in tomato puree instead of watery... contains
>onion, garlic, and instead of habanero it contains jalapeno and
>anaheim peppers, very flavorful, I enjoyed these... especially since
>the can is 25% larger and Walmart's costs half as much as Ro-Tel.
>Ro-Tel is a crap product, I won't be buying it again.
I'll give them a try.
Janet US
snip
>
>I either print off or type up recipes and print them too. I keep a file in
>my kitchen and I work on those recipes. As I am working on them I write
>notes onto the print outs until I am happy and then type them up again and
>then they are done pint them off again and they are kept in a 'good' file.
>--
I do similar especially for those recipes I use often. It's easier to
cook from a paper copy.
Janet US
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It sure is for me.
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The original Rotel or mild Rotel work best for most people's uses. I
like the Hatch brand, when I can find it. The store brands are pretty good.
Becca
What do you mean by Hatch brand? A named brand from Hatch NM or do
you mean Rotel with Hatch chilies.
Janet US
I take it you've never actually tried the Classico sauces. Even the
sauce snobs I know think it's decent. As for flavors and switching, no
what has been carried in Sam's and Costco has been consistent for a
number of years. I prefer Costco with the mixed variety 3pk.
>
> Btw, finally, after listening to all the tawk today I tried Ro-Tel Hot
> diced tomatos w/habaneros, the first time I tried a Ro-Tel product...
> they SUCK! They're hot (too hot for me) but are devoid of any flavor
Perhaps you should try the original Ro-Tel, not the much more recent
over-hot habanero version. When people refer to Ro-Tel they are
generally referring to the original which isn't bad. Of course when they
refer to Ro-Tel they are often referring to mixing it with Velveta as a
dip, which is bad.
If it's baked in store it ain't from La Brea... you MORON... as if La
Brea is anything to write home about, a fucking putrid tar pit in
LA... if that shit Wonder wanna be white bread in your pix is any
example you should just STFU.
That's what most folks with an IQ do, choose the store that's
geographically feasible, all those kinda stores sell the same products
same as intelligent folks buy from the local 'lectric company.. as if
'lectric from the next county is somehow more gourmet.
Any document I have on my computer can be stored and read on my iPad. I do
not even need to plug it in the computer. Document transfers are via wifi.
My iPad can control my main apple computer.
The iPad fits perfectly on my kitchen counter. Is your kitchen counter that
small?
I keep the iPad in a case when in the kitchen. The cookie dough splatters
on it has cleaned up ok so far :)
>> The ink on both of my printers have
>> dried up. I will not be replacing them. If I need something printed which
>> is unlikely, I will go to Office Max or the local library.
>
> Long walk.
Short Drive if needed, which is unlikely.
I have done just that :)
It is amazing that I down loaded the user manual for my riding zero turn
lawnmower in my garage last month. The paper user manual lacked that vital
update for getting the right part for repairs.
GOD! (Using the name in Vain) what a bunch of wimps here. I bet you buy
jewelry and never wear it. Just keep it in a safe because someone might
steal it or lose it or damage it...
This message is sent from "NewsTap" for the iPad.
I get my newspapers on my iPad. Read my books and yes dozens of recipes and
how to cook and bake apps. I can watch Alton Brown shows as a I making
something in the kitchen. I can also take my iPad out to the garden to
compare plant information and plant problems. My Wifi is good for about 150
feet from my home.
As I get older, I find that the small print on many books is just getting
harder to read. With the iPad I can enlarge the text so I can easily read
the recipes from a short distance. Now where did I put those Bifocals.
> I'll give them a try.
The only time I've used it is when making the famous King Ranch
Chicken casserole and I haven't thought one way or the other about
heat, so it's not too hot for me.
I have a PC in my shop which happens to be my CNC controller for my CNC
mini mill and my CNC plasma cutter. It's on a cart and I can go over and
lookup stuff on it if needed (after wiping my hands), and I can print
out docs as needed. A tablet type device would get destroyed pretty
quickly if I tried to use it on any of my work benches / tables or on my
full sized mill tables as I frequently do with printed copies of prints.
>
> GOD! (Using the name in Vain) what a bunch of wimps here. I bet you buy
> jewelry and never wear it. Just keep it in a safe because someone might
> steal it or lose it or damage it...
I do not own a single piece of jewelry.
> > Pasta sauce in a jar is high quality food?
>
> Classico brand is.
It's not bad at all. Sure, if I want to cook/slave for hours I can
make better, but I've no problem with the jarred version they have.
> The produce section as well as the meat section of the Costcos I've
> been to (3 or 4) have all been top notch.
Happy with my BJ's here.
--
Thanks for the info. Does it have any USB ports?
Oh my. We have a BJ's in Central Florida. Come visit it some time.
Bring wading boots in case they haven't cleaned their floors lately.
Some rubber gloves to pick through the meat cases and produce.
It does tend to be regional. Sam's Clubs are equally dreadful with
the bonus of incredibly rude employees. Costcos are excellent
wherever they are in Florida.
pavane
>Boron Elgar <boron...@hootmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Just curious, but why would you print so much less that you could do
>> away with a printer altogether? I have an iPad and an Android phone,
>> but still print things all the time. Damn if I am going to plop either
>> unit on the kitchen counter with a recipe or hand one off for a list
>> of meds at one of my doc visits.
>
>Any document I have on my computer can be stored and read on my iPad. I do
>not even need to plug it in the computer. Document transfers are via wifi.
>My iPad can control my main apple computer.
Yeah, hon...we can all do that. We're not idiots and I have all those
new-fangled whoop-de-doo whiz-bangs right at my digital digittips,
too. If it beeps, lights up or takes batteries, I own it. I
single-handedly support half of China and a quarter of Silicon Valley.
But I still print things.
>
>The iPad fits perfectly on my kitchen counter. Is your kitchen counter that
>small?
Don't be a douche. Why put $800+ toys that go tits up in water
anywhere I prep or cook?
>I keep the iPad in a case when in the kitchen. The cookie dough splatters
>on it has cleaned up ok so far :)
Yeah, I'm thrilled. Really I am. The frikkin' leather cover on mine
cost $80. That buys a lot of ink and paper...and maybe a printer, too.
I save forests by getting The Economist and other mags on the iPad.
>>> The ink on both of my printers have
>>> dried up. I will not be replacing them. If I need something printed which
>>> is unlikely, I will go to Office Max or the local library.
>>
>> Long walk.
>
>Short Drive if needed, which is unlikely.
Dumb, too, but hey, I am sitting in a room here at home with 3
desktops, two laptops, a tablet and three printers. I am about to go
into the bedroom where there is a laptop, a net book and an iPad. We
can continue to walk from room to room with this, really we can, but
I think you get the message. I am wired from hell to breakfast, but I
do not mix liquids with gadgets. And I'll never drop my cell phone
into a toilet, either. Gadgets are not yet ready for prime time with
moisture. I don't piss on them and I don't cook with them.
Boron
Wow, completely different here but as you say, regional issues. The
BJ's here is clean and well maintained.
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Chocolate is an addictive drug. Like tobacco, I know it is awful... It is
the craving, it is addictive. I have withdrawal symptoms when I go without
for a few hours. Help me :)
Chocolate should be regulate by the FDA, the same as cocaine and heroin!
My homemade fudge is to... probably going to kill me, give me those insulin
shots now! I think I need a fix... Snicker bars where are you!
Who needs them, USB is obsolete, just like the BlueRay/DVD/CD player. My
external speakers, headphones and my old printers was Wifi / Bluetooth
capable. There is a port for connecting a USB camera using an adapter.
> There is a port for connecting a USB camera using an adapter.
I'd need it.
>On Tue, 28 Jun 2011 18:06:22 -0400, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>
>> Sqwertz wrote:
>>>Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>>
>>>> Bullshit. Only the dwarf would think canned beans at Sams are
>>>> different from those sold at Costco. All those big box stores carry
>>>> the same low end to medioce food products, none are gourmet... they
>>>> don't even sell decent bread... that's why he eats that low end white
>>>> bread I'd be ashamed to feed critters.
>>>
>>>Bullshit, indeed. CostCo sells excellent fresh baked bread from La
>>>Brea bakery, baked in store.
>>
>> If it's baked in store it ain't from La Brea... you MORON...
>
><yawn> The dough is manufactured several places around the U.S. and
>sent to Costco where they bake it fresh.
>
>Do you never stop embarrassing yourself without your ignorance? You
>could have easily looked that up before you spouted off.
>
>> as if La
>> Brea is anything to write home about, a fucking putrid tar pit in
>> LA... if that shit Wonder wanna be white bread in your pix is any
>> example you should just STFU.
>
>Heh. I piss you off every time I prove you wrong, and then you start
>acting like a little spoiled child.
>
>Thank you for the many opportunities to make a fool out of you.
>
>-sw
>
>-sw
Aren't the La Brea breads par baked and then finished off in the
store? I believe that her original stuff was par baked. Anyone know
for sure? Doesn't make any difference really, the bread is good.
Janet US
Actually, it doesn't, it relies on wireless networking for all
connectivity.
Pathetic Analogy, how far do you keep your hand mixer or electric knife
from sink?
> Yeah, I'm thrilled. Really I am. The frikkin' leather cover on mine
> cost $80. That buys a lot of ink and paper...and maybe a printer, too.
> I save forests by getting The Economist and other mags on the iPad.
Even ink at Costco will not last forever. You will spend far more over time
for ink than your nice leather cover.
>
> Dumb, too, but hey, I am sitting in a room here at home with 3
> desktops, two laptops, a tablet and three printers. I am about to go
> into the bedroom where there is a laptop, a net book and an iPad. We
> can continue to walk from room to room with this, really we can, but
> I think you get the message. I am wired from hell to breakfast, but I
> do not mix liquids with gadgets. And I'll never drop my cell phone
> into a toilet, either. Gadgets are not yet ready for prime time with
> moisture. I don't piss on them and I don't cook with them.
With an iPad those laptops are obsolete.
I suppose you have no hair blower or electric nose trimmers also :)
WHAT, You do not use your iPad in the bathroom!
http://www.techwebe.com/hot-news/ipad-owners-33-use-their-tablet-in-the-bathroom
> Why put $800+ toys that go tits up in water anywhere I prep or cook?
I saw a water proof pouch for them (and the touch screen works) only
this morning on the Today show. Aquapac - apparently they come in
more sizes than is shown on the website.
> Aren't the La Brea breads par baked and then finished off in the
> store? I believe that her original stuff was par baked. Anyone know
> for sure? Doesn't make any difference really, the bread is good.
Columbus used to sell brown & serve sourdough bread. I miss being
able to finish off bread at home and pulling a hot, crispy loaf from
the oven in 10 minutes. It was my bread of choice to ship elsewhere
for gifts too.
> But I still print things.
Yep.
> >
> >The iPad fits perfectly on my kitchen counter. Is your kitchen counter that
> >small?
>
> Don't be a douche. Why put $800+ toys that go tits up in water
> anywhere I prep or cook?
Actually, I think an ipad would do just fine if you mounted it on a
cabinet door in the kitchen.
>
> >I keep the iPad in a case when in the kitchen. The cookie dough splatters
> >on it has cleaned up ok so far :)
>
> Yeah, I'm thrilled. Really I am. The frikkin' leather cover on mine
> cost $80. That buys a lot of ink and paper...and maybe a printer, too.
> I save forests by getting The Economist and other mags on the iPad.
Paper is a recyclable product made from a renewable resource, I don't
waste any effort trying to conserve it and put loggers and mill workers
out of work.
>
> >>> The ink on both of my printers have
> >>> dried up. I will not be replacing them. If I need something printed which
> >>> is unlikely, I will go to Office Max or the local library.
> >>
> >> Long walk.
> >
> >Short Drive if needed, which is unlikely.
>
> Dumb, too, but hey, I am sitting in a room here at home with 3
> desktops, two laptops, a tablet and three printers.
Three laptops, one desktop, four printers (five counting a p-touch), a
NAS box and a weather radio warning of severe thunderstorms.
> I am about to go
> into the bedroom where there is a laptop, a net book and an iPad.
Not much tech beyond another weather radio in the bedroom (near tornado
alley)
> We
> can continue to walk from room to room with this, really we can, but
> I think you get the message. I am wired from hell to breakfast, but I
> do not mix liquids with gadgets. And I'll never drop my cell phone
> into a toilet, either. Gadgets are not yet ready for prime time with
> moisture. I don't piss on them and I don't cook with them.
I've got dive computers and cameras that do fine at 100'+ depth, some
gadgets do just fine with water.
Sorry to burst your bubble, but a great many of us do real work on our
laptops and an ipad while a nice consumer gadget is not at all a
replacement for a laptop.
> Paper is a recyclable product made from a renewable resource, I don't
> waste any effort trying to conserve it and put loggers and mill workers
> out of work.
I suppose you own buggy whips also :)
> Not much tech beyond another weather radio in the bedroom (near tornado
> alley)
My iPad is my Cock Radio and my push weather alert radio.
However, if near tornado alley that backup radio would be helpful.
> I've got dive computers and cameras that do fine at 100'+ depth, some
> gadgets do just fine with water.
Those under water cameras are cool. My nephew has one and has several
sunken ship videos of the Saint Clair River in Michigan an expensive hobby.
>> With an iPad those laptops are obsolete.
>
> Sorry to burst your bubble, but a great many of us do real work on our
> laptops and an ipad while a nice consumer gadget is not at all a
> replacement for a laptop.
That is true. Some companies are still living in the dinosaur age. They
still want that information on a CD and want that paper printout. Some
CEO's have no idea what is WIFI, 3G or 4G is. A laptop is also a consumer
gadget. Many corporations have iPads that are used in the workforce today.
Laptops sales are down, tablet sales are up.
Just go to Costco and see all those tablets for sale. They out number
laptops and computers.
A great many real tasks require an actual keyboard and a much larger
screen. Many of the folks who have desktops where I work have triple
monitors, and even those of us who require the mobility of laptops run
in double display mode when docked at our desks.
Perhaps you have never worked in an environment that did significant
computer based work so you don't understand those needs. A company with
hundreds of thousands of square feet of data center space across dozens
of data centers around the world is certainly not living in any sort of
dinosaur age.
>
> Just go to Costco and see all those tablets for sale. They out number
> laptops and computers.
Costco is a consumer store.
My cell phone is my clock radio. Weather radios are indeed an important
item to have in this area.
>
> > I've got dive computers and cameras that do fine at 100'+ depth, some
> > gadgets do just fine with water.
>
> Those under water cameras are cool. My nephew has one and has several
> sunken ship videos of the Saint Clair River in Michigan an expensive hobby.
It's somewhat expensive, but rather front loaded. Once you have your
gear the costs drop off a lot as long as you take care of it, most
continuing costs are travel related.
>
> sf wrote:
> >
> >
> > Thanks for the info. Does it have any USB ports?
>
> Actually, it doesn't, it relies on wireless networking for all
> connectivity.
So if I wanted to back it up, I'd have to use an online service - how
would I install my old version of Agent? I'm still not convinced I
care enough to get a newer version because it would take me a month to
disable it back to what I have now with one or two features I would
have gotten had I bought the "new" version that had just been released
at the time.
> A great many real tasks require an actual keyboard and a much larger
> screen. Many of the folks who have desktops where I work have triple
> monitors, and even those of us who require the mobility of laptops run
> in double display mode when docked at our desks.
Desktops are needed in a modern office that can be very helpful in getting
the job done. I question the usefulness of the laptop in the field today.
Those two hours of battery life is very limiting in a laptop. Transfer of
data is often faster with Wifi or 3G than a low powered hard drive in those
laptops. The HD display resolution on my pad is better than most Laptops
and with a ten hour battery life.
> Perhaps you have never worked in an environment that did significant
> computer based work so you don't understand those needs. A company with
> hundreds of thousands of square feet of data center space across dozens
> of data centers around the world is certainly not living in any sort of
> dinosaur age.
Has nothing to do with the premise that laptops are becoming history.
> "Pete C." <aux3....@snet.net> wrote:
> > Nad R wrote:
>
> >> With an iPad those laptops are obsolete.
> >
> > Sorry to burst your bubble, but a great many of us do real work on our
> > laptops and an ipad while a nice consumer gadget is not at all a
> > replacement for a laptop.
>
> That is true. Some companies are still living in the dinosaur age. They
> still want that information on a CD and want that paper printout.
That's the least of my problems... I can print wirelessly.
> Costco is a consumer store.
Earth to Pete C.... we're talking about consumer hardware and
software, not your oh so special circumstance.
> I question the usefulness of the laptop in the field today.
What do you mean by "the field"? My DD's company issues laptops to
employees that are used as their main computer in the office (docked)
and everywhere else.
> Paper is a recyclable product made from a renewable resource, I don't
> waste any effort trying to conserve it and put loggers and mill workers
> out of work.
That statement matches your online personality very well.
>
> My iPad is my Cock Radio
As in cock-a-doodle-doo?
What is this $20 a month for data plan all about? Do you need a cell
phone already and add the iPad or is this a separate plan and what
other charges should I expect?
>> I question the usefulness of the laptop in the field today.
>What do you mean by "the field"? My DD's company issues laptops to
>employees that are used as their main computer in the office (docked)
>and everywhere else.
That's sort of the old way of doing it. The disadvantage is one
must carry one's laptop constantly. It would be easier to carry
a smaller device.
Steve
--
victor rock
I have the 3G option and rarely use it. I use free wifi spots most of the
time when traveling. If needed I will use the 3G and pay extra for the
reactivation charge. The 3G option comes with GPS that provides greater
usefulness of the machine. For now I am not paying for the data plan.
That auto spell checker, how many times...
No, you'd have to back it up over your WiFi to your desktop, laptop, NAS
storage, etc. "Wireless networking" in no way means some outside
service.
> - how
> would I install my old version of Agent? I'm still not convinced I
> care enough to get a newer version because it would take me a month to
> disable it back to what I have now with one or two features I would
> have gotten had I bought the "new" version that had just been released
> at the time.
You install software to it, again over your wireless network. I don't
know whether there is a version of Agent for the ipad.
You question the usefulness because you have never done the type of work
we do.
> Those two hours of battery life is very limiting in a laptop.
My laptop gets more like four hours of battery life and I can readily
plug it in nearly everywhere I need to use it, including on aircraft.
> Transfer of
> data is often faster with Wifi or 3G than a low powered hard drive in those
> laptops.
WiFi or 3G are not remotely as fast as a local hard drive. As for WiFi,
we have that in our data centers and can readily connect from our
laptops from anywhere we happen to be working in the DCs, toss the
laptop on a chair or cart next to the rack with the equipment you are
working on and you're good to go. If you're going to be working for more
than a couple hours grab your power adapter and plug it in to the
nearest outlet.
> The HD display resolution on my pad is better than most Laptops
> and with a ten hour battery life.
Resolution without screen size is not very useful. We don't like having
to squint and the equivalent of 4 point text on some tiny screen.
>
> > Perhaps you have never worked in an environment that did significant
> > computer based work so you don't understand those needs. A company with
> > hundreds of thousands of square feet of data center space across dozens
> > of data centers around the world is certainly not living in any sort of
> > dinosaur age.
>
> Has nothing to do with the premise that laptops are becoming history.
It has everything to do with that false premise. If you haven't done
that kind of work, you lack the understanding of the requirements and
why your beloved ipad is not suitable.
It may be easier to carry a smaller device, but if that smaller device
is not useable for the application, it's still not suitable.
No, we're talking about a clueless scrapple true believer who has no
understanding of what PCs are used for in the real world and is claiming
that their beloved ipad is somehow going to make laptops obsolete.
Er, well the reference you are quoting is about SCUBA diving.
As for data plans in relation to an ipad, that's if you get a version of
the ipad with 3G (cell) data connectivity, in which case you do need a
data plan just like a cell phone if you want to use that feature. You
can also connect on and WiFi network, which could include a WiFi hot
spot serviced by your existing cell phone in which case you would not
need an additional data plan. You can also get a version if the ipad
that is WiFi only and a bit cheaper than the one that includes the 3G
radio, but of course then you only have the WiFi connectivity option.
Since WiFi is available damned near everywhere these days, you can
generally do just fine with WiFi only.
I don't have an online personality.
> I have the 3G option and rarely use it. I use free wifi spots most of the
> time when traveling. If needed I will use the 3G and pay extra for the
> reactivation charge. The 3G option comes with GPS that provides greater
> usefulness of the machine. For now I am not paying for the data plan.
You must have it to use it in Europe.
>Actually, I think an ipad would do just fine if you mounted it on a
>cabinet door in the kitchen.
Why bother? I have a TV, blu-ray, satellite radio set up on the wall
in the kitchen already, and widgets on fridge, and a laptop that is
easily placed anywhere I want it to be, but it still doesn't give me
what I want in the kitchen...a set of recipe instructions that can be
slopped on and discarded. I can send data to that TV, too and see a
recipe on it, but it STILL isn't practical for a recipe. I cannot
carry it from one work surface to another, I have to wipe off my hands
to manage the view....nah...not ready for prime-time.
>
>I've got dive computers and cameras that do fine at 100'+ depth, some
>gadgets do just fine with water.
Those are specialized toys, not an iPad or Xoom or the like, that is
easily portable, or even a smart phone .
They also make laptops that are case-hardened and water resistant.
That is not the general home use stuff, though. I rather doubt there
is a big market for Panasonic or special tablets made for field or lab
use as a kitchen addition these days. When and if the prices get cheap
for such things, and they become practical for the home kitchen,
that's swell, but until then, it ain't worth the bother.
I could quite easily take an old, expendable laptop and use it while
prepping and cooking, but a piece of paper is really a lot easier. You
can put in on or under anything or tack it up if needed or use it to
level off a cup of flour. I am a techno-junkie, but see no reason to
go out of the way to incorporate its use when there is a simpler and
more practical solution available. I want a wireless, flat film that I
can toss in the dishwasher. Until then, paper is my friend.
Boron
><Ross@home> wrote:
>> One example, Sam's had a couple of skids of Lexmark wireless 4 in 1
>> printers for $38.00 that were complete with full size XL ink
>> cartridges. Those printers cost less than a pair of the same
>> cartridges for my printer so I bought three printers.
>> We did save considerably more than the cost of membership at both
>> places and while we do shop regularly at Costco, there are things
>> about Sam's that we miss.
>>
>> Ross.
>
>I have noticed Costco has reduced the shelf space in half for printer inks.
>If the trend is like me who now owns an iPad or other touch device,
>printing anything is becoming obsolete. The ink on both of my printers have
>dried up. I will not be replacing them. If I need something printed which
>is unlikely, I will go to Office Max or the local library.
Most folks print, in fact most print a lot... today many use photo
printers, those consume a tremendows quantity of ink yet people do
print photos. However pricey are branded printer cartridges generics
can be purchased on line at deep discount... I've been using generics
for many years with no complaints, I buy at Inksmile.com When I
recently bought a new printer and realized I had more than twenty of
their cartridges in stock for my old printer they told me to mail them
back and they sent me a check for a full refund, can't beat that. I
don't do a lot of printing but hardly a day passes that I don't print
a few pages. I doubt the printe page will become obsolete... it seems
to me that the more effort is placed into achieving this so-called
paperless society the more pages are printed... the more one signs up
for on line statements, banking, etc. the more junk snail mail they
send.
Yeah, they piggybacked on the popular fresh chiles from the Hatch NM area
with a brand name on cans. AFAICT, there's no connection and certainly
nothing special about Hatch canned products. The price is a bit special
though.
They appear to be getting away with it in the hispanic markets. Go figure.
Wandering, I wish I could find roasted peeled poblanos in cans the way you
can get green/anaheim/numex chiles and sweet red and yellow peppers.
Have you ever bought anything in the Del Sol brand at Restaurant Depot?
Feh! Worst green chiles ever. They taste pickled and are chock full of skin
fragments. A really nasty product. Got their whole sweet red peppers too...
same pickled taste that ruins the product. Compared to Castellano and IIRC
Suprema or something like that, they absolutely suck.
MartyB
Around here they carry a ton of junk and heavily processed foods which makes
their selection of more desireable stuff pretty narrow. Even a Costco only
has so much shelf space.
I routinely tape a printed recipe, cooking production checklist for a
party and the like to a cabinet door in my kitchen. I don't find any
need to be able to move it from work surface to work surface since my
kitchen is organized so that I can readily glance at the sheet from any
of the likely work areas. An ipad, tablet or similar would work equally
well for that use, and the half a second it takes to wipe my finger
before using the touch screen isn't an issue since I always have utility
hand towels around the work area.
> On Tue, 28 Jun 2011 22:28:55 -0500, "Pete C." <aux3....@snet.net>
> wrote:
> >
> > It's somewhat expensive, but rather front loaded. Once you have your
> > gear the costs drop off a lot as long as you take care of it, most
> > continuing costs are travel related.
>
> What is this $20 a month for data plan all about? Do you need a cell
> phone already and add the iPad or is this a separate plan and what
> other charges should I expect?
Doesn't matter. None of that stuff works under water anyway.
:-)
--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA
da...@sonic.net
Wow...Mr. Wonderful. BFD.
I have no cabinets over the prep area or over the cooking area. And I
prep in one part of the kitchen and cook in another. If the recipe is
required for the cooking part, I need to have access to it in both
places.
Even if I HAD cabinets in the prep area, I would not mount even a
tablet computer there. It permanently mars the face of the fine wood
cabinet and I can no longer wham it closed quickly when I want. They
are well enough constructed that I can do that easily when I need to.
And we wouldn't dream of keeping towels nearby. We are only allowed to
wash our hands once a week.
You are a dumb motherfucker.
Boron
Hehe, now everyone knows that Petey has TIAD. I will buy jarred sauce
on occasion, when it's a good sale, it's very convenient to have a jar
or two in the pantry but I've tried them all and I don't find any
noticeable difference which brand/price, they are all poor quality...
some taste a bit better spooned directly from the jar (mostly depends
which flavor to which one is partial) but heated, tossed with pasta,
plated and covered with grated cheese I defy anyone to pick which is
which... covered with grated cheese Petey could tell if it were
ketchup. hehe
>I think I will stick to the produce store for quality. I like Costco for
>the junk foods like: Hersey candy bars, Milky Ways, Snickers... My mistake
>snickers is a high quality candy bar. Sometimes a case of Gatorade... Yes,
>I love junk foods and Costco's specializes in junk foods :)
I'll be at Sam's tomorrow, I'll be stocking up on all kinds of branded
products that are no different quality no matter where purchased...
even the store branded products are the same as the store branded
products in every store, they all come off the same manufacturing
line... only the packaging changes... retail stores do not manufacture
any products. As to fresh produce, I inspect it regardless which
store, same with fresh meats... and I don't stock up on fresh
perishables. I can buy fresh produce/meats every day if I choose and
the basic veggies when in season are the same quality and price
everywhere/meats are seasonal too... only thing changes is the price
when purchased in bulk but I wouldn't buy a bag of six heads of
lettuce or 15 lemons at one time unless I was operating a
restaurant... last time I got suckered into buying a bag of 15 limes
because they were only $3 I ended up tossing ten into the composter...
now I only buy three at 79�, and hope I can use them before they dry
out/rot. With steaks I buy what I will cook within 24 hours, I don't
freeze tender or premium cuts... I'd no more buy a rib roast as a
fresh ham to stick in the freezer... the small stupidmarket in town
has real butchers, they will cut whatever steak I ask for and however
I want it... it's better meat than from the large markets so to me
it's worth the 10% higher price, I don't eat steak all that often
anyway. There's definitely a place for the large box stores, but they
are all the same, anyone tells you differently has a personal
agenda/axe to grind, typically on usenet just to be an obstinate PIA
who's too weak spined to diverge from the opinions of their gang of
fools. I only chose Sam's because it's the only one near enough to be
geographically feasible, and I still have to drive over an hour and a
half each way. On Lung Guyland I shopped at Costco, because that's
what was there, but there's no difference whatsoever. I have no
allegience to any grocery store, I shop based strictly on price and
convenience. Here I have a choice of both Lowe's and Home Depot, I
see no difference, but Lowe's is a 30 minute drive and Home Depot is
an hour drive so guess where I shop. I even have a rather large
hardware/lumber store in town, very convenient, but I only shop there
when it's an inexpensive item like a box of nails and I need them
right away, because they are pricey. With the price of fuel today one
has to consider driving distance. However, as much as possible I shop
on line.
> sf <s...@geemail.com> wrote:
> > On Wed, 29 Jun 2011 02:39:32 +0000 (UTC), Nad R
> > <na...@positivegogetter.cooldude> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> My iPad is my Cock Radio
> >
> > As in cock-a-doodle-doo?
>
> That auto spell checker, how many times...
It's not the spell checker, it's Windows. I wish there was a way to
enlarge the print on the spell checker. Apparently there isn't
because when I enlarged the system fonts, it didn't affect the spell
check window.
--
I love cooking with wine.
Sometimes I even put it in the food.
>
> sf wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, 28 Jun 2011 21:10:43 -0500, "Pete C." <aux3....@snet.net>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Paper is a recyclable product made from a renewable resource, I don't
> > > waste any effort trying to conserve it and put loggers and mill workers
> > > out of work.
> >
> > That statement matches your online personality very well.
>
> I don't have an online personality.
Maybe you think you don't, but you do.
From your description it sounds like you are a filthy and disorganized
slug.
> Nad R wrote:
> > Just go to Costco and see all those tablets for sale. They out number
> > laptops and computers.
>
> Costco is a consumer store.
Plus Nad is either being pretty sloppy, or he goes to a weird Costco.
I've been to Costco several times recently, and tablets don't outnumber
either laptops OR desktops. I don't have an exact count, since I'm not
in the market, but I can look at their web page.
Under their broad category of computers, they list 50 desktops, 54
laptops and 5 tablets (also 3 netbooks).