Google Groups no longer supports new Usenet posts or subscriptions. Historical content remains viewable.
Dismiss

Re: Ramsay Kills Yet Another Restaurant

5 views
Skip to first unread message
Message has been deleted
Message has been deleted

ImStillMags

unread,
Jan 2, 2012, 7:15:37 PM1/2/12
to
On Jan 2, 3:39 pm, Sqwertz <swe...@cluemail.compost> wrote:
>
> That article is old.  It has been reported that several more
> restaurants have closed.  Usually they close pretty quickly after
> Ramsay has been there.


They should do a show on the "afterwards" and the restauants that have
closed. That I'd watch. I never watch
Ramsay's shows, he's way too much of an asshole to people.

Pico Rico

unread,
Jan 2, 2012, 7:55:21 PM1/2/12
to

"ImStillMags" <sitar...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:bb3fdcd7-2e53-4253...@g19g2000pri.googlegroups.com...
They should also do a show where the restaurant owners and staff get to do
the editing.


notbob

unread,
Jan 2, 2012, 8:00:24 PM1/2/12
to
Uummm..... they DO do a "revisited" version of kitchen nightmares.
And for those of you too clueless to grasp the concept, these
restaurants are on the verge of failing before Ramsay steps in.
Considering how inept and stupid most of the owners are, that many
fail in spite of Ramsay's efforts comes as little surprise.

nb

--
vi --the root of evil

A Moose in Love

unread,
Jan 2, 2012, 8:16:19 PM1/2/12
to
Ramsay's no asshole. He's a decent strong cook. I think that most
people that own restaurants that he visits suck, and are weak
sisters.

Pico Rico

unread,
Jan 2, 2012, 8:21:10 PM1/2/12
to

"A Moose in Love" <parkstre...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:111ffa62-4022-4caf...@m20g2000vbf.googlegroups.com...
On Jan 2, 7:15 pm, ImStillMags <sitara8...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jan 2, 3:39 pm, Sqwertz <swe...@cluemail.compost> wrote:
>
>
>
> > That article is old. It has been reported that several more
> > restaurants have closed. Usually they close pretty quickly after
> > Ramsay has been there.
>
> They should do a show on the "afterwards" and the restauants that have
> closed. That I'd watch. I never watch
> Ramsay's shows, he's way too much of an asshole to people.

Ramsay's no asshole. He's a decent strong cook.

I think he is both. So do most people.




DanS.

unread,
Jan 2, 2012, 9:05:51 PM1/2/12
to
On 1/2/2012 6:32 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> Gordon Ramsay and Kitchen Nightmares came into Austin, after first
> soliciting the advice of the food scene, "What restaurant needs
> saved?". They chose El Greco - which nobody even mentioned.
>
> After Ramsay came and did his self-aggrandizing makeover and left the
> reviews were terrible - even worse then previously. My pre-Ramsay
> review:
>
> http://www.yelp.com/biz/el-greco-austin#hrid:8Turn7OwXG-ThXfC6QQuOQ>
>
> And there were still a few thousand half off coupons that were
> distributed VIA Groupon and 3 or 4 other "half-off" marketing
> companies left to be redeemed when Ramsay left. Most went unused.
>
> Here's a brief article on their demise, though the whole story is not
> yet known. Needless to say, the episode never aired since the
> immediate reviews - just days after GR left, were awful.
>
> <http://digitaltexan.net/2012/atx-gossip/gordon-ramsay-nightmare-kill-austins-el-greco/article13384/>
>
> Despite bad reviews, the restaurant is under a contract that says they
> cannot change food, service, methods for a certain amount of time
> after Ramsay leaves - adding to their eventual demise.
>
> At least I'm not contributing to this asshole's success at the expense
> of mom-and-pop restaurants by watching these kinds of shows. How many
> other restaurants has GR buried with his self-aggrandizing bullshit?
>
> -sw


To be fair, if the management of half his "nightmare" places had any
wits, they'd continue following the advice he gives them. Most of them
are completely incompetent.

--
Yours,
Dan S.

DanS.

unread,
Jan 2, 2012, 9:09:01 PM1/2/12
to
I don't mind the yelling ... its the name calling and cursing. There
are plenty of words in the English language to avoid his foul mouth rants.

--
Yours,
Dan S.

Ed Pawlowski

unread,
Jan 2, 2012, 10:50:56 PM1/2/12
to
On Mon, 2 Jan 2012 17:39:20 -0600, Sqwertz <swe...@cluemail.compost>
wrote:

>On Mon, 2 Jan 2012 17:32:36 -0600, Sqwertz wrote:
>
>> How many
>> other restaurants has GR buried with his self-aggrandizing bullshit?
>
>Or I could just look it up:
>
>"Of the first two seasons’ 21 restaurants, 15 have closed. Throw in
>season three and it’s still a dismal 32 retaurants and 19 closures."
>
>http://www.zeitgasm.com/?p=793
>
>That article is old. It has been reported that several more
>restaurants have closed. Usually they close pretty quickly after
>Ramsay has been there.
>
>-sw

Would be interesting to know the real reason. My guess is that if he
never showed up, they would all be closed for one reason or another.
Some never should have been saved to begin with. Some should have
never opened given the twits than ran them.

I wonder what the track record for Restaurant Impossible is. Probably
no better. http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/794814 this place still
sucks.

Paul M. Cook

unread,
Jan 2, 2012, 11:24:56 PM1/2/12
to

"Sqwertz" <swe...@cluemail.compost> wrote in message
news:3plge3i165cw$.dlg@sqwertz.com...
> Gordon Ramsay and Kitchen Nightmares came into Austin, after first
> soliciting the advice of the food scene, "What restaurant needs
> saved?". They chose El Greco - which nobody even mentioned.
>
> After Ramsay came and did his self-aggrandizing makeover and left the
> reviews were terrible - even worse then previously. My pre-Ramsay
> review:
>
> http://www.yelp.com/biz/el-greco-austin#hrid:8Turn7OwXG-ThXfC6QQuOQ>
>
> And there were still a few thousand half off coupons that were
> distributed VIA Groupon and 3 or 4 other "half-off" marketing
> companies left to be redeemed when Ramsay left. Most went unused.
>
> Here's a brief article on their demise, though the whole story is not
> yet known. Needless to say, the episode never aired since the
> immediate reviews - just days after GR left, were awful.
>
> <http://digitaltexan.net/2012/atx-gossip/gordon-ramsay-nightmare-kill-austins-el-greco/article13384/>
>
> Despite bad reviews, the restaurant is under a contract that says they
> cannot change food, service, methods for a certain amount of time
> after Ramsay leaves - adding to their eventual demise.
>
> At least I'm not contributing to this asshole's success at the expense
> of mom-and-pop restaurants by watching these kinds of shows. How many
> other restaurants has GR buried with his self-aggrandizing bullshit?
>

OK so GR went into the place and held the owner at gunpoint, ordered his
workers to get in line or he'd pop a cap in the boss's skull. After GR did
his thing he pistol whipped the owner, kneecapped the manager and and told
him he was a dead man if he didn't follow the new rules.

Or perhaps the owner welcomed GR to his place? If you are so desperate as
to need a GR makeover you probably don't have what it takes to be successful
in the first place. Good reviews get passed around but bad reviews spread
like wildfire. Once then negativity has been established, it becomes a cut
your losses proposition.

You live with the choices you make. I've seen some of those shows and those
owners have no business at all being restaurant owners. To say they are
pathetic is being generous. They have no business acumen, they have lousy
food and they have no concept that they are even bad at what they do. You
cannot fix stupid.

Paul


Paul M. Cook

unread,
Jan 2, 2012, 11:30:43 PM1/2/12
to

"A Moose in Love" <parkstre...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:111ffa62-4022-4caf...@m20g2000vbf.googlegroups.com...
Having worked for entrepreneurs in the food business in my youth I can tell
you they are all ego and little brains and as greedy as they come. And most
of them are serious drinkers, drug users or both. One owner I worked for
had a really, really good thing going and a great crew. Money just poured
in. He ruined it by draining ever single penny from the business buying
Ferraris and cocaine and ended up shutting it down deeply in hock after
bouncing the payroll checks. He blamed critics.

Paul


Paul M. Cook

unread,
Jan 2, 2012, 11:36:03 PM1/2/12
to

"Pico Rico" <Pico...@nonospam.com> wrote in message
news:jdtl74$uc1$1...@news.mixmin.net...
Most successful chefs are both. They are hell to work for.

Paul


Steve Pope

unread,
Jan 2, 2012, 11:52:45 PM1/2/12
to
Paul M. Cook <pmc...@gte.net> wrote:

>"Pico Rico" <Pico...@nonospam.com> wrote in message

>> Ramsay's no asshole. He's a decent strong cook.

>> I think he is both. So do most people.

>Most successful chefs are both. They are hell to work for.

This is an image that some of them cultivate, but actually being "hell
to work for" is not a requirement for being a great chef or
a great anything else.

Steve
Message has been deleted
Message has been deleted

Julie Bove

unread,
Jan 3, 2012, 12:45:41 AM1/3/12
to
Sqwertz wrote:
> On Mon, 2 Jan 2012 17:32:36 -0600, Sqwertz wrote:
>
>> How many
>> other restaurants has GR buried with his self-aggrandizing bullshit?
>
> Or I could just look it up:
>
> "Of the first two seasonsó 21 restaurants, 15 have closed. Throw in
> season three and itós still a dismal 32 retaurants and 19 closures."
>
> http://www.zeitgasm.com/?p=793
>
> That article is old. It has been reported that several more
> restaurants have closed. Usually they close pretty quickly after
> Ramsay has been there.

Could it be that they were just in a bad location? I have seen locations
where restaurant after restaurant went out of business even though the food
was good. But for some reason they just didn't get many customers.


Julie Bove

unread,
Jan 3, 2012, 12:46:25 AM1/3/12
to
He has gone back to some. Not that I've seen every episode. I haven't.


Julie Bove

unread,
Jan 3, 2012, 12:47:25 AM1/3/12
to
Very true. I have noticed that.


Julie Bove

unread,
Jan 3, 2012, 12:47:57 AM1/3/12
to
A Moose in Love wrote:
I have tried some of his recipes. All superb! And yes, I did follow them
to the letter.


Message has been deleted

Paul M. Cook

unread,
Jan 3, 2012, 1:13:14 AM1/3/12
to

"meh" <y...@mouse-potato.com> wrote in message
news:ch65g75bmqpilt96f...@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 2 Jan 2012 20:30:43 -0800, "Paul M. Cook" <pmc...@gte.net> wrote:
>
>
>>Ramsay's no asshole.
>
> Yes, he is. Maybe YOU identify too closely with him, so that you don't
> see it.

Learn how to read. Sombody else typed that.

Paul


sf

unread,
Jan 3, 2012, 2:11:08 AM1/3/12
to
It was an honest mistake. You didn't put the proper quote markers on
it.

Paul M. Cook

unread,
Jan 3, 2012, 2:45:14 AM1/3/12
to

"sf" <sf.u...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:a75bf8aa-95c4-47b7...@u15g2000pre.googlegroups.com...
That's because you and the other poster use buggy software. It's not me who
should fix your problem. You'd think the other poster would have suffered a
little deja vu reading my post but noooooooooooo. What next? I have to
wipe their chin after they eat? Adding two carriage returns to my response
is as far as I am willing to go.

Paul


Giusi

unread,
Jan 3, 2012, 2:44:22 AM1/3/12
to

"Paul M. Cook" <pmc...@gte.net> ha scritto To say they are
> pathetic is being generous. They have no business acumen, they have lousy
> food and they have no concept that they are even bad at what they do. You
> cannot fix stupid.

What struck me in the two I saw was the filth. It was like no one ever
looked into the walk-ins or behind anything.


Paul M. Cook

unread,
Jan 3, 2012, 2:55:56 AM1/3/12
to

"Giusi" <deco...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:9mfpup...@mid.individual.net...
The one episode of the Tapas bar in England almost made be barf when I saw
the rotten food they were actually serving to their customers.

Talk about dumb, the owner devoted 50% of his space to a stage where he sang
songs and played the guitar. Ramsay could not convince the guy that the
customers expected good food and were not coming in to watch him perform.
As it was even if the owner filled all tables with hungry and thirsty
patrons he still could not break even with so much table space being wasted.
After his only competent employee walked out screaming obscenities did the
owner finally gave up his precious stage. I was dumfounded by the man's
stupidity and pig headedness.

Paul


Message has been deleted
Message has been deleted

Nancy Young

unread,
Jan 3, 2012, 9:07:12 AM1/3/12
to
At first I wondered if it was put on for the show ... the first
one I saw was horrific. It looked so long-standing that I
thought it must be real.

nancy

Nancy Young

unread,
Jan 3, 2012, 9:08:57 AM1/3/12
to
On 1/3/2012 2:45 AM, Paul M. Cook wrote:
> "sf"<sf.u...@gmail.com> wrote in message

> It was an honest mistake. You didn't put the proper quote markers on
> it.
>
>
> That's because you and the other poster use buggy software. It's not me who
> should fix your problem. You'd think the other poster would have suffered a
> little deja vu reading my post but noooooooooooo. What next? I have to
> wipe their chin after they eat? Adding two carriage returns to my response
> is as far as I am willing to go.

It's not my software, your messages are not delimited from the previous
posters comments.

nancy

Pico Rico

unread,
Jan 3, 2012, 9:46:38 AM1/3/12
to

"Steve Pope" <spo...@speedymail.org> wrote in message
news:jdu1it$m8q$1...@blue-new.rahul.net...
beyond cooking ability and knowledge, there is planning and organization, as
well as drama. The chefs I have been most impressed with are those that, in
addition to great cooking ability and knowledge, are excellent at planning
and organization, and not in need of drama. Then, life is good, so very
good.


Pico Rico

unread,
Jan 3, 2012, 9:49:57 AM1/3/12
to

"Paul M. Cook" <pmc...@gte.net> wrote in message
news:jduca9$kqi$1...@dont-email.me...
haven't you ever watched the first few episodes of a season of American
Idol?


Brooklyn1

unread,
Jan 3, 2012, 10:13:02 AM1/3/12
to
meh <y...@mouse-potato.com> wrote:
>"Paul M. Cook" <pmc...@gte.net> wrote:
>
>>Ramsay's no asshole.
>
>Yes, he is. Maybe YOU identify too closely with him, so that you don't see it.

Spot on!

spamtrap1888

unread,
Jan 3, 2012, 10:09:57 AM1/3/12
to
I went and looked back at it. Paul's software quoted ok; Pico Rico's
didn't.

Brooklyn1

unread,
Jan 3, 2012, 10:16:54 AM1/3/12
to
On Mon, 2 Jan 2012 22:13:14 -0800, "Paul M. Cook" <pmc...@gte.net>
wrote:

>
>"meh" <y...@mouse-potato.com> wrote in message
>news:ch65g75bmqpilt96f...@4ax.com...
>> On Mon, 2 Jan 2012 20:30:43 -0800, "Paul M. Cook" <pmc...@gte.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Ramsay's no asshole.
>>
>> Yes, he is. Maybe YOU identify too closely with him, so that you don't
>> see it.
>
>Learn how to read. Sombody else typed that.
>
>Paul

If yoose NEWBIES learned to trim attributions your problem would
greatly diminish... misquotes are ALL your fault (you're a FILTHY
SLOB), not the next poster.

Brooklyn1

unread,
Jan 3, 2012, 10:21:10 AM1/3/12
to
sf wrote:
> "Paul M. Cook" wrote:
>> "meh" wrote:
>> > "Paul M. Cook" wrote:
>>
>> >>Ramsay's no asshole.
>>
>> > Yes, he is.  Maybe YOU identify too closely with him, so that you don't
>> > see it.
>>
>> Learn how to read.  Sombody else typed that.
>
>It was an honest mistake. You didn't put the proper quote markers on
>it.

You're a FILTHY SLOB too, sf. I'm gonna show yoose NEWBIES again...
see how neat! sf, I'd hate to ever meet up with your maggoty crotch.

Brooklyn1

unread,
Jan 3, 2012, 10:24:31 AM1/3/12
to
"Paul M. Kook" wrote:

>
>"sf" <sf.u...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:a75bf8aa-95c4-47b7...@u15g2000pre.googlegroups.com...
>On Jan 2, 10:13 pm, "Paul M. Cook" <pmc...@gte.net> wrote:
>> "meh" <y...@mouse-potato.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:ch65g75bmqpilt96f...@4ax.com...
>>
>> > On Mon, 2 Jan 2012 20:30:43 -0800, "Paul M. Cook" <pmc...@gte.net>
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >>Ramsay's no asshole.
>>
>> > Yes, he is. Maybe YOU identify too closely with him, so that you don't
>> > see it.
>>
>> Learn how to read. Sombody else typed that.
>>
>> Paul
>
>It was an honest mistake. You didn't put the proper quote markers on
>it.
>
>
>That's because you and the other poster use buggy software.

Don't blame the software. You're a FILTHY DIRTY SLOB too... lookit
your attributions, scuzzy like yer momma's crotch.

Brooklyn1

unread,
Jan 3, 2012, 10:28:37 AM1/3/12
to
On Tue, 3 Jan 2012 07:44:15 -0600, Sqwertz <swe...@cluemail.compost>
wrote:

>On Mon, 2 Jan 2012 23:45:14 -0800, Paul M. Cook wrote:
>
>> "sf" <sf.u...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:a75bf8aa-95c4-47b7...@u15g2000pre.googlegroups.com...
>> On Jan 2, 10:13 pm, "Paul M. Cook" <pmc...@gte.net> wrote:
>>> "meh" <y...@mouse-potato.com> wrote in message
>>>
>>> news:ch65g75bmqpilt96f...@4ax.com...
>>>
>>>> On Mon, 2 Jan 2012 20:30:43 -0800, "Paul M. Cook" <pmc...@gte.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>Ramsay's no asshole.
>>>
>>>> Yes, he is. Maybe YOU identify too closely with him, so that you don't
>>>> see it.
>>>
>>> Learn how to read. Sombody else typed that.
>>>
>>> Paul
>>
>> It was an honest mistake. You didn't put the proper quote markers on
>> it.
>>
>> That's because you and the other poster use buggy software.
>
>The buggy software here is YOURS.

Another NEWBIE heard from... lookit how you don't trim attributions,
LAZY BASTARD DWARF... a blind man can find where you live by the
stench.

Pico Rico

unread,
Jan 3, 2012, 10:35:29 AM1/3/12
to

"spamtrap1888" <spamtr...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:2dc33358-032b-4f0d...@l16g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
neither I nor Paul quoted Moose's correctly, because our OE does not
properly quote google groups or some such thing. I tried "quote fix" which
solved the problem, but then I could not open links in e-mail with a
browser. I e-mailed quote fix, but no response, so I turned it off.

Paul did quote me right, since I am not on google groups.



Dave Smith

unread,
Jan 3, 2012, 10:50:14 AM1/3/12
to
On 02/01/2012 8:16 PM, A Moose in Love wrote:
Ramsay's shows, he's way too much of an asshole to people.
>
> Ramsay's no asshole. He's a decent strong cook. I think that most
> people that own restaurants that he visits suck, and are weak
> sisters.


He may be capable of cooking some good food but being a strong cook and
being an asshole are not mutually exclusive, and Gordon Ramsey is most
definitely IMO and asshole. He is rude, obnoxious and abusive. He is a
reality show looking to ignite some action.
Message has been deleted

Paul M. Cook

unread,
Jan 3, 2012, 12:05:59 PM1/3/12
to

"Nancy Young" <replyto@inemail> wrote in message
news:4f030bfa$0$14037$882e...@usenet-news.net...
Your software works just fine, see. It's not a bug in OE.

Paul


Paul M. Cook

unread,
Jan 3, 2012, 12:07:42 PM1/3/12
to

"Sqwertz" <swe...@cluemail.compost> wrote in message
news:1p7gp6z8cduv0$.dlg@sqwertz.com...
> On Mon, 2 Jan 2012 23:45:14 -0800, Paul M. Cook wrote:
>
>> "sf" <sf.u...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:a75bf8aa-95c4-47b7...@u15g2000pre.googlegroups.com...
>> On Jan 2, 10:13 pm, "Paul M. Cook" <pmc...@gte.net> wrote:
>>> "meh" <y...@mouse-potato.com> wrote in message
>>>
>>> news:ch65g75bmqpilt96f...@4ax.com...
>>>
>>>> On Mon, 2 Jan 2012 20:30:43 -0800, "Paul M. Cook" <pmc...@gte.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>Ramsay's no asshole.
>>>
>>>> Yes, he is. Maybe YOU identify too closely with him, so that you don't
>>>> see it.
>>>
>>> Learn how to read. Sombody else typed that.
>>>
>>> Paul
>>
>> It was an honest mistake. You didn't put the proper quote markers on
>> it.
>>
>> That's because you and the other poster use buggy software.
>
> The buggy software here is YOURS. You made the post that did not
> quote the previous post properly. We've been through this before and
> it was unanimous (except for you) that your Outlook Express is the
> culprit.
>
> Eventually you'll learn to use something else and/or upgrade. But
> until then, your software is broken in more ways than one. Stop trying
> to pin the blame on others if you're too lazy to edit your posts
> properly or use software that does it for you.
>

OE is not the problem. Google is the problem. How many times do we have to
go down this road? And I'll burn in your killfile for all eternity before I
switch! Bwahahahahahaha!!

Paul


Paul M. Cook

unread,
Jan 3, 2012, 12:13:09 PM1/3/12
to

"Brooklyn1" <Gravesend1> wrote in message
news:ud76g71drjhu0lduj...@4ax.com...
A newbie? Moi? Wow, I feel like a virgin. Touched for the very first
time.

Paul


Paul M. Cook

unread,
Jan 3, 2012, 12:44:01 PM1/3/12
to

"Brooklyn1" <Gravesend1> wrote in message
news:p776g713lp5tbsk8r...@4ax.com...
I am looking. Must admit I am impressed. And I wager your crotch aint a
rose garden, either.

Paul


DanS.

unread,
Jan 3, 2012, 12:49:29 PM1/3/12
to
On 1/2/2012 11:52 PM, Steve Pope wrote:
> Paul M. Cook<pmc...@gte.net> wrote:
>
>> "Pico Rico"<Pico...@nonospam.com> wrote in message
>
>>> Ramsay's no asshole. He's a decent strong cook.
>
>>> I think he is both. So do most people.
>
>> Most successful chefs are both. They are hell to work for.
>
> This is an image that some of them cultivate, but actually being "hell
> to work for" is not a requirement for being a great chef or
> a great anything else.
>
> Steve

I had a shift-leader that the organization actually went down to New
Orleans (from Indiana) to "recruit." He took more shortcuts that I ever
did. He was not exacting, even when doing so would make a noticeable
difference. I knew plenty of cooks in the army who were significantly
better than this so-called "chef."

--
Yours,
Dan S.
Message has been deleted
Message has been deleted

news

unread,
Jan 3, 2012, 1:46:20 PM1/3/12
to

"Dave Smith" <adavid...@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:6tFMq.4535$5g....@unlimited.newshosting.com...
The British version of his show is much milder. I always thought the
producers had him ramp up the action for the American audience.


Paul M. Cook

unread,
Jan 3, 2012, 2:13:02 PM1/3/12
to

"Sqwertz" <swe...@cluemail.compost> wrote in message
news:1xzljiy4...@sqwertz.com...
> On Tue, 3 Jan 2012 09:07:42 -0800, Paul M. Cook wrote:
>
>> "Sqwertz" <swe...@cluemail.compost> wrote in message
>> news:1p7gp6z8cduv0$.dlg@sqwertz.com...
>>
>>> Eventually you'll learn to use something else and/or upgrade. But
>>> until then, your software is broken in more ways than one. Stop trying
>>> to pin the blame on others if you're too lazy to edit your posts
>>> properly or use software that does it for you.
>>
>> OE is not the problem. Google is the problem. How many times do we have
>> to
>> go down this road?
>
> Nobody has supported your argument in the past, and I don't see
> anybody coming to help you out this time either. So my guess is that
> it won't be over until YOU learn to quote properly or switch
> newsreaders. Nobody else has this problem (and defends their software
> as innocent).
>
> I do believe (and know) it's the specific *combination* of newsreaders
> that is the problem. They are BOTH broken. But since you are the one
> making the faulty posts, the responsibility ultimately lies upon you,
> maybe not necessarily your newsreader (or Google).
>
>> And I'll burn in your killfile for all eternity before I
>> switch! Bwahahahahahaha!!
>
> <shrug>
>
> I'm thinking I developed a dislike for James Silverton because I had
> him confused with you. IIRC, he posted a lot to alt.food.asian way
> back when, which I respected (we Asians have to stick together).
> Maybe it was just you I disliked all along.
>

Very likely, yes.

Paul


Paul M. Cook

unread,
Jan 3, 2012, 2:14:51 PM1/3/12
to

"Sqwertz" <swe...@cluemail.compost> wrote in message
news:73j7103d...@sqwertz.com...
> You're so confused about attributions you don't even know when
> somebody is talking to you or to somebody else.
>

Uh, no. I can follow a thread. I have an attention span longer than a
goldfish. Which would be yourself, apparently.

> I'm rethinking my Sheldon killfile. He wants me to killfile him, but
> I do appreciate making a fool out of him every once in a while. Or at
> least daily.

Takes one to know one.

> Maybe I should let the group decide.

We did. Long ago and it has been reaffirmed innumerable times since.

Paul


Message has been deleted

Doug Freyburger

unread,
Jan 3, 2012, 3:12:45 PM1/3/12
to
Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
> Would be interesting to know the real reason. My guess is that if he
> never showed up, they would all be closed for one reason or another.
> Some never should have been saved to begin with. Some should have
> never opened given the twits than ran them.
>
> I wonder what the track record for Restaurant Impossible is. Probably
> no better. http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/794814 this place still
> sucks.

For a while Restaurant: Impossible was running about 50-50 a year after
the intervention. That's not bad given that all of them would have had
to close within six months or sooner without the intervention. I take
it the restaurants that Ramsey intervenes are also ones that would all
have failed without his intervention.

It's entertainment so in some sense none need to survive for years after
their episode but the fact that some really do turn around is nice.

Doug Freyburger

unread,
Jan 3, 2012, 3:14:23 PM1/3/12
to
Pico Rico wrote:
> "Steve Pope" <spo...@speedymail.org> wrote:
>
>> This is an image that some of them cultivate, but actually being "hell
>> to work for" is not a requirement for being a great chef or
>> a great anything else.
>
> beyond cooking ability and knowledge, there is planning and organization, as
> well as drama. The chefs I have been most impressed with are those that, in
> addition to great cooking ability and knowledge, are excellent at planning
> and organization, and not in need of drama. Then, life is good, so very
> good.

This reminds me of Mario Batalli's commentary on Ramsey. He said
something like any chef who needs to scream has already lost control of
his kitchen.

DanS.

unread,
Jan 3, 2012, 3:32:31 PM1/3/12
to
Or has a whiney cook who either won't listen or is doing something
incorrectly the chef knows he knows how to do correctly, and he's just
being lazy.

--
Yours,
Dan S.

Will

unread,
Jan 3, 2012, 3:43:44 PM1/3/12
to
On Mon, 2 Jan 2012 23:45:14 -0800, "Paul M. Cook" <pmc...@gte.net>
wrote:

>
>"sf" <sf.u...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:a75bf8aa-95c4-47b7...@u15g2000pre.googlegroups.com...
>On Jan 2, 10:13 pm, "Paul M. Cook" <pmc...@gte.net> wrote:
>> "meh" <y...@mouse-potato.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:ch65g75bmqpilt96f...@4ax.com...
>>
>> > On Mon, 2 Jan 2012 20:30:43 -0800, "Paul M. Cook" <pmc...@gte.net>
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >>Ramsay's no asshole.
>>
>> > Yes, he is. Maybe YOU identify too closely with him, so that you don't
>> > see it.
>>
>> Learn how to read. Sombody else typed that.
>>
>> Paul
>
>It was an honest mistake. You didn't put the proper quote markers on
>it.
>
>
>That's because you and the other poster use buggy software. It's not me who
>should fix your problem.

Err, it is you with the buggy software. Not everybody else.

>You'd think the other poster would have suffered a
>little deja vu reading my post but noooooooooooo. What next? I have to
>wipe their chin after they eat? Adding two carriage returns to my response
>is as far as I am willing to go.

You are hopeless.

Chemo the Clown

unread,
Jan 3, 2012, 3:54:58 PM1/3/12
to
On Jan 3, 12:14 pm, Doug Freyburger <dfrey...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Pico Rico wrote:
I'm not sure GR screams in any of his kitchens. I think it's more the
effect for TV.

Paul M. Cook

unread,
Jan 3, 2012, 4:03:49 PM1/3/12
to

"Will" <w...@hotmale.com> wrote in message
news:u0q6g7d51valsrin3...@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 2 Jan 2012 23:45:14 -0800, "Paul M. Cook" <pmc...@gte.net>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"sf" <sf.u...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:a75bf8aa-95c4-47b7...@u15g2000pre.googlegroups.com...
>>On Jan 2, 10:13 pm, "Paul M. Cook" <pmc...@gte.net> wrote:
>>> "meh" <y...@mouse-potato.com> wrote in message
>>>
>>> news:ch65g75bmqpilt96f...@4ax.com...
>>>
>>> > On Mon, 2 Jan 2012 20:30:43 -0800, "Paul M. Cook" <pmc...@gte.net>
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>> >>Ramsay's no asshole.
>>>
>>> > Yes, he is. Maybe YOU identify too closely with him, so that you don't
>>> > see it.
>>>
>>> Learn how to read. Sombody else typed that.
>>>
>>> Paul
>>
>>It was an honest mistake. You didn't put the proper quote markers on
>>it.
>>
>>
>>That's because you and the other poster use buggy software. It's not me
>>who
>>should fix your problem.
>
> Err, it is you with the buggy software. Not everybody else.

OE is not buggy. Google is buggy.

>
>>You'd think the other poster would have suffered a
>>little deja vu reading my post but noooooooooooo. What next? I have to
>>wipe their chin after they eat? Adding two carriage returns to my
>>response
>>is as far as I am willing to go.
>
> You are hopeless.

But I can cook, so there must be some hope.

Paul


Steve Pope

unread,
Jan 3, 2012, 4:06:53 PM1/3/12
to
Well there's also a selection effect going on here. In any small
business, including most restaurants, you are likely to get owners and
bosses whose personality precludes them from working in most straight
jobs. So they are drawn to the business world out of necessity; otherwise
they would be unemployed.

Or stated another way, drama is not a job requirement for a chef but
it's also something that doesn't get them automatically fired.


Steve
Message has been deleted

Paul M. Cook

unread,
Jan 3, 2012, 4:27:51 PM1/3/12
to

"meh" <y...@mouse-potato.com> wrote in message
news:e4s6g71lj4rctk4bp...@4ax.com...
> Easier to plonk than to argue.

Looks like a Hatfield to me, Martha.

Paul


Will

unread,
Jan 3, 2012, 5:00:05 PM1/3/12
to
On Tue, 3 Jan 2012 13:03:49 -0800, "Paul M. Cook" <pmc...@gte.net>
wrote:

>
>"Will" <w...@hotmale.com> wrote in message
>news:u0q6g7d51valsrin3...@4ax.com...
>> On Mon, 2 Jan 2012 23:45:14 -0800, "Paul M. Cook" <pmc...@gte.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"sf" <sf.u...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>news:a75bf8aa-95c4-47b7...@u15g2000pre.googlegroups.com...
>>>On Jan 2, 10:13 pm, "Paul M. Cook" <pmc...@gte.net> wrote:
>>>> "meh" <y...@mouse-potato.com> wrote in message
>>>>
>>>> news:ch65g75bmqpilt96f...@4ax.com...
>>>>
>>>> > On Mon, 2 Jan 2012 20:30:43 -0800, "Paul M. Cook" <pmc...@gte.net>
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >>Ramsay's no asshole.
>>>>
>>>> > Yes, he is. Maybe YOU identify too closely with him, so that you don't
>>>> > see it.
>>>>
>>>> Learn how to read. Sombody else typed that.
>>>>
>>>> Paul
>>>
>>>It was an honest mistake. You didn't put the proper quote markers on
>>>it.
>>>
>>>
>>>That's because you and the other poster use buggy software. It's not me
>>>who
>>>should fix your problem.
>>
>> Err, it is you with the buggy software. Not everybody else.
>
>OE is not buggy. Google is buggy.

Google has nothing to do with it. You are posting through eternal
September, I am using aoie. Your posts still have the delimiters
missing. OE was never considered a proper Usenet client.

Will

unread,
Jan 3, 2012, 5:01:15 PM1/3/12
to
On Tue, 03 Jan 2012 13:18:22 -0800, meh <y...@mouse-potato.com> wrote:

>On Wed, 04 Jan 2012 07:43:44 +1100, Will <w...@hotmale.com> wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 2 Jan 2012 23:45:14 -0800, "Paul M. Cook" <pmc...@gte.net>
>>wrote:
>>>You'd think the other poster would have suffered a
>>>little deja vu reading my post but noooooooooooo. What next? I have to
>>>wipe their chin after they eat? Adding two carriage returns to my response
>>>is as far as I am willing to go.
>>
>>You are hopeless.
>
>Easier to plonk than to argue.

Probably the best thing to do.

Nancy Young

unread,
Jan 3, 2012, 5:28:34 PM1/3/12
to
On 1/3/2012 4:03 PM, Paul M. Cook wrote:
> "Will"<w...@hotmale.com> wrote in message

>> Err, it is you with the buggy software. Not everybody else.
>
> OE is not buggy.

Then why did someone write Quotefix for OE and a lot of
people use it? Because the quoting needs fixing.

Before Quotefix I manually inserted the >s, or at least
delimited my comments with a few *****.

I switched to Thunderbird with my latest pc.

nancy

Paul M. Cook

unread,
Jan 3, 2012, 8:19:00 PM1/3/12
to

"Nancy Young" <replyto@inemail> wrote in message
news:4f038114$0$17529$882e...@usenet-news.net...
> On 1/3/2012 4:03 PM, Paul M. Cook wrote:
>> "Will"<w...@hotmale.com> wrote in message
>
>>> Err, it is you with the buggy software. Not everybody else.
>>
>> OE is not buggy.
>
> Then why did someone write Quotefix for OE and a lot of
> people use it? Because the quoting needs fixing.
>

No, because Google said they would not so anything about it. M$ refused to
do anything because they had abandoned OE at that time. So that left some
room for an enterprising person to step in.

> Before Quotefix I manually inserted the >s, or at least
> delimited my comments with a few *****.
>
> I switched to Thunderbird with my latest pc.

TB will be what I use when I have to look elsewhere.

Paul


Paul M. Cook

unread,
Jan 3, 2012, 8:25:17 PM1/3/12
to

"Will" <w...@hotmale.com> wrote in message
news:9cu6g795b0pkppvdj...@4ax.com...
Google has everything to do with it. The news server has nothing to do with
it. It has everything to do with your newsgroup reader. OE worked just
fine until Google wrote their horrid gmail interface. And I do mean horrid
in the bad way, not the good way.

Paul


Paul M. Cook

unread,
Jan 3, 2012, 8:26:32 PM1/3/12
to

"Will" <w...@hotmale.com> wrote in message
news:gju6g7ldfvqihig1c...@4ax.com...
I completly agree. Serious measure for serious crimes. But always use your
powers wisely, young Jedi, lest the force foresake thee.

Paul


Nunya Bidnits

unread,
Jan 3, 2012, 8:40:00 PM1/3/12
to
You aren't burning anywhere. You're standing bare-assed in the middle of a
highway median wanking and you don't even know it.

Unbelievable.


Nunya Bidnits

unread,
Jan 3, 2012, 8:46:50 PM1/3/12
to
Paul M. Cook <pmc...@gte.net> wrote:
> "Nancy Young" <replyto@inemail> wrote in message
> news:4f038114$0$17529$882e...@usenet-news.net...
>> On 1/3/2012 4:03 PM, Paul M. Cook wrote:
>>> "Will"<w...@hotmale.com> wrote in message
>>
>>>> Err, it is you with the buggy software. Not everybody else.
>>>
>>> OE is not buggy.
>>
>> Then why did someone write Quotefix for OE and a lot of
>> people use it? Because the quoting needs fixing.
>>
>
> No, because Google said they would not so anything about it. M$
> refused to do anything because they had abandoned OE at that time. So that
> left some room for an enterprising person to step in.

So you actually admit it fixes OE. Yet you refuse to use it and blame
everyone else.

You are not worthy. Go lay down somewhere.


Nunya Bidnits

unread,
Jan 3, 2012, 8:55:07 PM1/3/12
to
spamtrap1888 <spamtr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jan 2, 11:11 pm, sf <sf.use...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Jan 2, 10:13 pm, "Paul M. Cook" <pmc...@gte.net> wrote:
>>
>>> "meh" <y...@mouse-potato.com> wrote in message
>>
>>> news:ch65g75bmqpilt96f...@4ax.com...
>>
>>>> On Mon, 2 Jan 2012 20:30:43 -0800, "Paul M. Cook" <pmc...@gte.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>
>>>>> Ramsay's no asshole.
>>
>>>> Yes, he is. Maybe YOU identify too closely with him, so that you
>>>> don't see it.
>>
>>> Learn how to read. Sombody else typed that.
>>
>>> Paul
>>
>> It was an honest mistake. You didn't put the proper quote markers on
>> it.
>
> I went and looked back at it. Paul's software quoted ok; Pico Rico's
> didn't.

But Paul's frequenty does not quote properly because he refuses to use
OE-Quotefix, and then he claims that when his messages are not properly
quoted, it is everone else's fault, and not his.


Nunya Bidnits

unread,
Jan 3, 2012, 8:55:39 PM1/3/12
to
Paul M. Cook <pmc...@gte.net> wrote:
> "Brooklyn1" <Gravesend1> wrote in message
> news:ud76g71drjhu0lduj...@4ax.com...
>> On Tue, 3 Jan 2012 07:44:15 -0600, Sqwertz <swe...@cluemail.compost>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, 2 Jan 2012 23:45:14 -0800, Paul M. Cook wrote:
>>>
>>>> "sf" <sf.u...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:a75bf8aa-95c4-47b7...@u15g2000pre.googlegroups.com...
>>>> On Jan 2, 10:13 pm, "Paul M. Cook" <pmc...@gte.net> wrote:
>>>>> "meh" <y...@mouse-potato.com> wrote in message
>>>>>
>>>>> news:ch65g75bmqpilt96f...@4ax.com...
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, 2 Jan 2012 20:30:43 -0800, "Paul M. Cook"
>>>>>> <pmc...@gte.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ramsay's no asshole.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, he is. Maybe YOU identify too closely with him, so that you
>>>>>> don't see it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Learn how to read. Sombody else typed that.
>>>>>
>>>>> Paul
>>>>
>>>> It was an honest mistake. You didn't put the proper quote markers
>>>> on it.
>>>>
>>>> That's because you and the other poster use buggy software.
>>>
>>> The buggy software here is YOURS.
>>
>> Another NEWBIE heard from... lookit how you don't trim attributions,
>> LAZY BASTARD DWARF... a blind man can find where you live by the
>> stench.
>
>
> A newbie? Moi? Wow, I feel like a virgin. Touched for the very
> first time.
>
> Paul

You're touched all right.


Nunya Bidnits

unread,
Jan 3, 2012, 8:54:11 PM1/3/12
to
Pico Rico <Pico...@nonospam.com> wrote:
> "spamtrap1888" <spamtr...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:2dc33358-032b-4f0d...@l16g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
> On Jan 2, 11:11 pm, sf <sf.use...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Jan 2, 10:13 pm, "Paul M. Cook" <pmc...@gte.net> wrote:
>>
>>> "meh" <y...@mouse-potato.com> wrote in message
>>
>>> news:ch65g75bmqpilt96f...@4ax.com...
>>
>>>> On Mon, 2 Jan 2012 20:30:43 -0800, "Paul M. Cook" <pmc...@gte.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>
>>>>> Ramsay's no asshole.
>>
>>>> Yes, he is. Maybe YOU identify too closely with him, so that you
>>>> don't see it.
>>
>>> Learn how to read. Sombody else typed that.
>>
>>> Paul
>>
>> It was an honest mistake. You didn't put the proper quote markers on
>> it.
>
> I went and looked back at it. Paul's software quoted ok; Pico Rico's
> didn't.
>
>
> neither I nor Paul quoted Moose's correctly, because our OE does not
> properly quote google groups or some such thing. I tried "quote fix"
> which solved the problem, but then I could not open links in e-mail
> with a browser. I e-mailed quote fix, but no response, so I turned
> it off.
> Paul did quote me right, since I am not on google groups.

Sounds like you changed something in your OE configuration. I am using both
and can open links in email. However security settings can block this
access:

Go to Tools>options>security tab.
UNCHECK the box where it says do not allow attachments to be saved or opened
which could potentially be a virus.

This setting is solving a problem with a hammer that doesn't need solved
anyway if you run decent antiscumware. But it will block you from opening
any links from mail unless you cut and paste it into your browser. Perhaps
somehow this setting got ticked when you were messing with Quotefix. Anyway
try it and it should solve your problem and let your run Quotefix with no
collateral issues.

MartyB


Nunya Bidnits

unread,
Jan 3, 2012, 9:00:32 PM1/3/12
to
Dave Smith <adavid...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> On 02/01/2012 8:16 PM, A Moose in Love wrote:
> Ramsay's shows, he's way too much of an asshole to people.
>>
>> Ramsay's no asshole. He's a decent strong cook. I think that most
>> people that own restaurants that he visits suck, and are weak
>> sisters.
>
>
> He may be capable of cooking some good food but being a strong cook
> and being an asshole are not mutually exclusive, and Gordon Ramsey
> is most definitely IMO and asshole. He is rude, obnoxious and
> abusive. He is a reality show looking to ignite some action.

It's what the producers believe will sell ads and draw viewers, therefore
it's what the producers want him to do. If he wants a paycheck he needs to
be the asshole they want.

MartyB


Paul M. Cook

unread,
Jan 3, 2012, 9:09:10 PM1/3/12
to

"Nunya Bidnits" <nunyab...@eternal-september.invalid> wrote in message
news:je0b2h$t2o$1...@dont-email.me...
Because the problem is that Google did not properly implement the RFC.
Simple as that. I am compelled by my ethical standard to support industry
standards and to reject the outrageous, reckless, lawless behavior of some
industry players who think they own the ball game. This is SERIOUS
business! I canot sit still ad let this go on without taking a stand.

> You are not worthy. Go lay down somewhere.

Bite me.

Paul


Nancy Young

unread,
Jan 3, 2012, 9:09:23 PM1/3/12
to
On 1/3/2012 8:19 PM, Paul M. Cook wrote:
> "Nancy Young"<replyto@inemail> wrote

>> On 1/3/2012 4:03 PM, Paul M. Cook wrote:
>>> "Will"<w...@hotmale.com> wrote in message
>>
>>>> Err, it is you with the buggy software. Not everybody else.
>>>
>>> OE is not buggy.
>>
>> Then why did someone write Quotefix for OE and a lot of
>> people use it? Because the quoting needs fixing.
>>
>
> No, because Google said they would not so anything about it. M$ refused to
> do anything because they had abandoned OE at that time. So that left some
> room for an enterprising person to step in.

I don't know what Google has to do with anything, the
point is there is a problem with the quoting and someone
wrote a fix. If OE was my software, I would fix it because
it looks bad and I took pride in my stuff.

nancy

Paul M. Cook

unread,
Jan 3, 2012, 9:10:02 PM1/3/12
to

"Nunya Bidnits" <nunyab...@eternal-september.invalid> wrote in message
news:je0aln$re7$1...@dont-email.me...
I am in my living room. Shows what you know.

Paul


Nunya Bidnits

unread,
Jan 3, 2012, 9:11:48 PM1/3/12
to
news <ne...@news.ne> wrote:
> "Dave Smith" <adavid...@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:6tFMq.4535$5g....@unlimited.newshosting.com...
>> On 02/01/2012 8:16 PM, A Moose in Love wrote:
>> Ramsay's shows, he's way too much of an asshole to people.
>>>
>>> Ramsay's no asshole. He's a decent strong cook. I think that most
>>> people that own restaurants that he visits suck, and are weak
>>> sisters.
>>
>>
>> He may be capable of cooking some good food but being a strong cook
>> and being an asshole are not mutually exclusive, and Gordon Ramsey
>> is most definitely IMO and asshole. He is rude, obnoxious and
>> abusive. He is a reality show looking to ignite some action.
>
> The British version of his show is much milder. I always thought the
> producers had him ramp up the action for the American audience.

What are you talking about? He is every bit as rude and nasty in the Brit
version. They have made adjustments for the US show but he plays a jerk in
both versions.

And let's be realistic about these so called reality shows. They are not
reality. The participants are coached and scripted, their comments are cut
and edited, and the dynamics of all relationships you see between people
have been tampered with... heavily... by producers.

My point? There's really no way to know for sure if Ramsay is really an
asshole, or if he just plays one on TV.

MartyB


Will

unread,
Jan 3, 2012, 9:17:00 PM1/3/12
to
On Tue, 3 Jan 2012 17:25:17 -0800, "Paul M. Cook" <pmc...@gte.net>
I see. Either you are being deliberately obtuse, or else you are
simply an idiot.

Paul M. Cook

unread,
Jan 3, 2012, 9:20:55 PM1/3/12
to

"Nancy Young" <replyto@inemail> wrote in message
news:4f03b4d6$0$6613$882e...@usenet-news.net...
If you post from Google Groups you encounter the bug. OE has been DCd ever
since Windows 7 was released. M$ does not have a policy of "fixing"
discontinued software especially when that fix entails a workaround for
Google's problem. There is nothing for M$ to fix. Notice how OE quotes you
properly? Not sure why this is such a holy grail for some but Google is the
one with the bugs.

Paul


Paul M. Cook

unread,
Jan 3, 2012, 9:25:36 PM1/3/12
to

"Will" <w...@hotmale.com> wrote in message
news:sgd7g7l28n5bpu09v...@4ax.com...
No I am an IT professional of 26 years. I may be obtuse, I dunno. Don't
care either.

Paul


Nunya Bidnits

unread,
Jan 3, 2012, 9:34:40 PM1/3/12
to
Paul M. Cook <pmc...@gte.net> wrote:
> "Nunya Bidnits" <nunyab...@eternal-september.invalid> wrote in
> message news:je0b2h$t2o$1...@dont-email.me...
>> Paul M. Cook <pmc...@gte.net> wrote:
>>> "Nancy Young" <replyto@inemail> wrote in message
>>> news:4f038114$0$17529$882e...@usenet-news.net...
>>>> On 1/3/2012 4:03 PM, Paul M. Cook wrote:
>>>>> "Will"<w...@hotmale.com> wrote in message
>>>>
>>>>>> Err, it is you with the buggy software. Not everybody else.
>>>>>
>>>>> OE is not buggy.
>>>>
>>>> Then why did someone write Quotefix for OE and a lot of
>>>> people use it? Because the quoting needs fixing.
>>>>
>>>
>>> No, because Google said they would not so anything about it. M$
>>> refused to do anything because they had abandoned OE at that time.
>>> So that left some room for an enterprising person to step in.
>>
>> So you actually admit it fixes OE. Yet you refuse to use it and blame
>> everyone else.
>>
>
> Because the problem is that Google did not properly implement the RFC.

So that gives you cause to post in a way that you KNOW will not be properly
quoted, even though it can be easily fixed?

> Simple as that.

Actually what is simple is that you are using it as an excuse to be an
asshole.

Paul M. Cook

unread,
Jan 3, 2012, 9:40:28 PM1/3/12
to

"Nunya Bidnits" <nunyab...@eternal-september.invalid> wrote in message
news:je0ds7$9c6$1...@dont-email.me...
> Paul M. Cook <pmc...@gte.net> wrote:
>> "Nunya Bidnits" <nunyab...@eternal-september.invalid> wrote in
>> message news:je0b2h$t2o$1...@dont-email.me...
>>> Paul M. Cook <pmc...@gte.net> wrote:
>>>> "Nancy Young" <replyto@inemail> wrote in message
>>>> news:4f038114$0$17529$882e...@usenet-news.net...
>>>>> On 1/3/2012 4:03 PM, Paul M. Cook wrote:
>>>>>> "Will"<w...@hotmale.com> wrote in message
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Err, it is you with the buggy software. Not everybody else.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> OE is not buggy.
>>>>>
>>>>> Then why did someone write Quotefix for OE and a lot of
>>>>> people use it? Because the quoting needs fixing.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> No, because Google said they would not so anything about it. M$
>>>> refused to do anything because they had abandoned OE at that time.
>>>> So that left some room for an enterprising person to step in.
>>>
>>> So you actually admit it fixes OE. Yet you refuse to use it and blame
>>> everyone else.
>>>
>>
>> Because the problem is that Google did not properly implement the RFC.
>
> So that gives you cause to post in a way that you KNOW will not be
> properly quoted, even though it can be easily fixed?

Right. I use a newsreader that properly implements the RFC. Simple. I
click "Reply." I am just so slick.

>
>> Simple as that.
>
> Actually what is simple is that you are using it as an excuse to be an
> asshole.

I've never needed an excuse before. Don't need one now.

Paul


Nunya Bidnits

unread,
Jan 3, 2012, 9:49:03 PM1/3/12
to
Sqwertz <swe...@cluemail.compost> wrote:
> On Mon, 2 Jan 2012 21:45:41 -0800, Julie Bove wrote:
>
>> Could it be that they were just in a bad location? I have seen
>> locations where restaurant after restaurant went out of business
>> even though the food was good. But for some reason they just didn't
>> get many customers.
>
> Location is a problem for some restaurants. But it doesn't seem to be
> the restaurants in his series.
>
> And some people think the theory of "cursed locations" is bogus. I
> think it has merit. We have a few of those in town.

The concept does seem to have merit. The only way these locations stop being
restaurant killers is when they are bought or leased for some other kind of
business. For example, there is a paint and interior store thriving in one
nearby location which has killed easily a dozen would-be restaurants.

But there is one other thing. You have to wonder what kind of idiot opens a
restaurant in a place where the last ten occupants have failed at exactly
the same endeavor.

MartyB
>
> -sw


Nunya Bidnits

unread,
Jan 3, 2012, 9:51:18 PM1/3/12
to
Giusi <deco...@gmail.com> wrote:
> "Paul M. Cook" <pmc...@gte.net> ha scritto To say they are
>> pathetic is being generous. They have no business acumen, they have
>> lousy food and they have no concept that they are even bad at what
>> they do. You cannot fix stupid.
>
> What struck me in the two I saw was the filth. It was like no one
> ever looked into the walk-ins or behind anything.

And what I wonder every time I see one of those is who has been paying off
the health department inspectors? Because if anyone honest was inspecting
these places, they would have been cited and closed until it was fixed and
re-inspected.

MartyB


Nunya Bidnits

unread,
Jan 3, 2012, 10:00:45 PM1/3/12
to
Like I said, and you just admitted, you have no clue what an ass you are
making of yourself. Again.


Paul M. Cook

unread,
Jan 3, 2012, 10:03:06 PM1/3/12
to

"Nunya Bidnits" <nunyab...@eternal-september.invalid> wrote in message
news:je0fd5$fq7$1...@dont-email.me...
This from a guy who gets free internet standing naked in thye middle of a
road? Palease.

Paul


Nunya Bidnits

unread,
Jan 3, 2012, 10:01:58 PM1/3/12
to
In his case, it's both. Amazing, huh?


Nunya Bidnits

unread,
Jan 3, 2012, 10:02:39 PM1/3/12
to
No professional would take such an idiotic position, especially not in
public.


Nunya Bidnits

unread,
Jan 3, 2012, 10:03:43 PM1/3/12
to
So what? Who gives a rat's ass how indignant you are about not being
personally served by megacorporations?

Answer: You think everyone needs to give a rat's ass about your petty
obnoxious problem, because it's all about you.

You are not worthy.


Nunya Bidnits

unread,
Jan 3, 2012, 10:05:34 PM1/3/12
to
He doesn't care about how his posts look, or whether they are readable, or
whether he is the cause of otherwise orderly threads being screwed up. But
he will go out of his way to claim he is an IT "professional".

As if.


Paul M. Cook

unread,
Jan 3, 2012, 10:04:55 PM1/3/12
to

"Nunya Bidnits" <nunyab...@eternal-september.invalid> wrote in message
news:je0ere$dcc$1...@dont-email.me...
Health inspections are random unless somebody complains. And the inspector
always makes an appointment beforehand. And some people sell their souls
for a hundred bucks.

Paul


Nunya Bidnits

unread,
Jan 3, 2012, 10:05:55 PM1/3/12
to
Paul M. Cook <pmc...@gte.net> wrote:
> "Nunya Bidnits" <nunyab...@eternal-september.invalid> wrote in
> message news:je0b2h$t2o$1...@dont-email.me...
>> Paul M. Cook <pmc...@gte.net> wrote:
>>> "Nancy Young" <replyto@inemail> wrote in message
>>> news:4f038114$0$17529$882e...@usenet-news.net...
>>>> On 1/3/2012 4:03 PM, Paul M. Cook wrote:
>>>>> "Will"<w...@hotmale.com> wrote in message
>>>>
>>>>>> Err, it is you with the buggy software. Not everybody else.
>>>>>
>>>>> OE is not buggy.
>>>>
>>>> Then why did someone write Quotefix for OE and a lot of
>>>> people use it? Because the quoting needs fixing.
>>>>
>>>
>>> No, because Google said they would not so anything about it. M$
>>> refused to do anything because they had abandoned OE at that time.
>>> So that left some room for an enterprising person to step in.
>>
>> So you actually admit it fixes OE. Yet you refuse to use it and blame
>> everyone else.
>>
>
> Because the problem is that Google did not properly implement the RFC.

No, the problem is that you know it doesn't work right, you know it is
easily fixed, yet you won't deal with it because you are obsessed with
trying to prove something at the expense of the readers of this forum. Thing
is, you've proved nothing... except that you're a self-righteous
inconsiderate asshole.

> Simple as that.

Yes it is.

>I am compelled by my ethical standard to support
> industry standards and to reject the outrageous, reckless, lawless
> behavior of some industry players who think they own the ball game.

So you think you are proving a point to these meg-corporations by being an
asshole and disrupting threads in a Usenet group?

Like I said, what' you're really doing, and you know this, is going out of
your way to be an asshole.

> This is SERIOUS business! I canot sit still ad let this go on
> without taking a stand.

Oh, what fucking ridiculous horseshit that is. It's not serious business.
But you certainly are serious about proving you're an asshole.

>
>> You are not worthy. Go lay down somewhere.
>
> Bite me.

You're even more unworthy after that completely transparent and disengenous
response.

What are you, about fifteen years old? No reasonable adult would make such
lame dishonest excuses for feeling entitled to act like an asshole.


Paul M. Cook

unread,
Jan 3, 2012, 10:08:16 PM1/3/12
to

"Nunya Bidnits" <nunyab...@eternal-september.invalid> wrote in message
news:je0fin$gj7$1...@dont-email.me...
Apparently you.

> Answer: You think everyone needs to give a rat's ass about your petty
> obnoxious problem, because it's all about you.

You mean it isn't?

> You are not worthy.

I'm German.

Paul


Paul M. Cook

unread,
Jan 3, 2012, 10:09:25 PM1/3/12
to

"Nunya Bidnits" <nunyab...@eternal-september.invalid> wrote in message
news:je0fgm$g7v$1...@dont-email.me...
This is not public. It's a newsgroup. And I am in my living room.

Paul
>


Paul M. Cook

unread,
Jan 3, 2012, 10:17:57 PM1/3/12
to

"Nunya Bidnits" <nunyab...@eternal-september.invalid> wrote in message
news:je0fmq$h3j$1...@dont-email.me...
Somebody has to do it.

> Like I said, what' you're really doing, and you know this, is going out of
> your way to be an asshole.

My keyboard is at arms length.

>
>> This is SERIOUS business! I canot sit still ad let this go on
>> without taking a stand.
>
> Oh, what fucking ridiculous horseshit that is. It's not serious business.
> But you certainly are serious about proving you're an asshole.

Well clearly you have no appreciation of the big picture.

>>
>>> You are not worthy. Go lay down somewhere.
>>
>> Bite me.
>
> You're even more unworthy after that completely transparent and
> disengenous response.

No, I meant bite me.

> What are you, about fifteen years old? No reasonable adult would make such
> lame dishonest excuses for feeling entitled to act like an asshole.

50. I find it hard to believe you are the spokesman for reasonable adults.

Paul


Paul M. Cook

unread,
Jan 3, 2012, 10:53:48 PM1/3/12
to

"Nunya Bidnits" <nunyab...@eternal-september.invalid> wrote in message
news:je0bi2$v97$1...@dont-email.me...
> spamtrap1888 <spamtr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Jan 2, 11:11 pm, sf <sf.use...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Jan 2, 10:13 pm, "Paul M. Cook" <pmc...@gte.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> "meh" <y...@mouse-potato.com> wrote in message
>>>
>>>> news:ch65g75bmqpilt96f...@4ax.com...
>>>
>>>>> On Mon, 2 Jan 2012 20:30:43 -0800, "Paul M. Cook" <pmc...@gte.net>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>> Ramsay's no asshole.
>>>
>>>>> Yes, he is. Maybe YOU identify too closely with him, so that you
>>>>> don't see it.
>>>
>>>> Learn how to read. Sombody else typed that.
>>>
>>>> Paul
>>>
>>> It was an honest mistake. You didn't put the proper quote markers on
>>> it.
>>
>> I went and looked back at it. Paul's software quoted ok; Pico Rico's
>> didn't.
>
> But Paul's frequenty does not quote properly because he refuses to use
> OE-Quotefix, and then he claims that when his messages are not properly
> quoted, it is everone else's fault, and not his.

That's because it is.

Paul


notbob

unread,
Jan 3, 2012, 11:03:37 PM1/3/12
to
On 2012-01-04, Paul M. Cook <pmc...@gte.net> wrote:

> Because the problem is that Google did not properly implement the RFC.

Howzabout you implement some of RFC 1855 - Netiquette Guidlines 3.1.1:

"Since NetNews, especially, is proliferated by distributing the
postings from one host to another, it is possible to see a response
to a message before seeing the original. Giving context helps
everyone. But do not include the entire original!"

IOW, trim yer damn posts!!

Thank you
nb

--
vi --the root of evil

Paul M. Cook

unread,
Jan 3, 2012, 11:17:48 PM1/3/12
to

"notbob" <not...@nothome.com> wrote in message
news:slrnjg7jsl...@nbleet.hcc.net...
I didn't write that RFC. I am sure it was voted down, anyway.

Paul



Pico Rico

unread,
Jan 4, 2012, 1:11:22 AM1/4/12
to

"Nunya Bidnits" <nunyab...@eternal-september.invalid> wrote in message
news:je0bgb$uvq$1...@dont-email.me...
> Pico Rico <Pico...@nonospam.com> wrote:
>> "spamtrap1888" <spamtr...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:2dc33358-032b-4f0d...@l16g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
>> On Jan 2, 11:11 pm, sf <sf.use...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Jan 2, 10:13 pm, "Paul M. Cook" <pmc...@gte.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> "meh" <y...@mouse-potato.com> wrote in message
>>>
>>>> news:ch65g75bmqpilt96f...@4ax.com...
>>>
>>>>> On Mon, 2 Jan 2012 20:30:43 -0800, "Paul M. Cook" <pmc...@gte.net>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>> Ramsay's no asshole.
>>>
>>>>> Yes, he is. Maybe YOU identify too closely with him, so that you
>>>>> don't see it.
>>>
>>>> Learn how to read. Sombody else typed that.
>>>
>>>> Paul
>>>
>>> It was an honest mistake. You didn't put the proper quote markers on
>>> it.
>>
>> I went and looked back at it. Paul's software quoted ok; Pico Rico's
>> didn't.
>>
>>
>> neither I nor Paul quoted Moose's correctly, because our OE does not
>> properly quote google groups or some such thing. I tried "quote fix"
>> which solved the problem, but then I could not open links in e-mail
>> with a browser. I e-mailed quote fix, but no response, so I turned
>> it off.
>> Paul did quote me right, since I am not on google groups.
>
> Sounds like you changed something in your OE configuration. I am using
> both and can open links in email. However security settings can block this
> access:
>
> Go to Tools>options>security tab.
> UNCHECK the box where it says do not allow attachments to be saved or
> opened which could potentially be a virus.
>
> This setting is solving a problem with a hammer that doesn't need solved
> anyway if you run decent antiscumware. But it will block you from opening
> any links from mail unless you cut and paste it into your browser. Perhaps
> somehow this setting got ticked when you were messing with Quotefix.
> Anyway try it and it should solve your problem and let your run Quotefix
> with no collateral issues.
>
> MartyB

I'll give that a look, but since the links open without quote fix running, I
would think that it is quote fix that is giving me this problem. Again, now
response from quote fix.


Pico Rico

unread,
Jan 4, 2012, 1:19:12 AM1/4/12
to
Pico Rico wrote:
> "Nunya Bidnits" <nunyab...@eternal-september.invalid> wrote in
> message news:je0bgb$uvq$1...@dont-email.me...
>> Pico Rico <Pico...@nonospam.com> wrote:
>>> "spamtrap1888" <spamtr...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:2dc33358-032b-4f0d-ad0c-
>>> ded8aa...@l16g2000prg.googlegroups.com... On Jan 2, 11:11 pm, sf
nope, still no good. I can open links in e-mails, but not news items. I
get the browser to open with a link something like this:
res://ieframe.dll/syntax.htm#


It is loading more messages.
0 new messages