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Gunner Asch
Dec 30, 2011, 3:07:39 AM12/30/11
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My double wide was built in `1983 and it has a Coleman blower in it. A
month or so ago, it started having a difficult time coming up to speed
when it kicked on. I checked everything..and found a start cap. Which I
replaced out of a motor I had kicking around for years. 7.5uf
That started the motor running properly again...but tonight it started
humming and not turning. I try to spin the blower by hand with it in Run
mode..and its being held in place electrically. Turn off the power..and
it spins freely and has little bearing wear as best as I can determine.
Ive lubed it properly and religiously for all this time. No endplay..no
up and down play. I turned it on..and hand started it..and it came up
to speed..but still didnt sound right. Next time..it wouldnt start
again..just quivered.
I admit to being very weak on 3 speed open frame motors. Start relay
seems to be working fine, and when I bypass the relay..it still acts
slow and boggy.
It acts the same in high or low speed. Shrug..its never been in low for
all the years Ive run it...nearly 28 yrs.
Wtf? Did the replacement (it was dented slightly) fail as well? I dont
think Ive got another 7.5 uf cap and knowing the HVAC shop here in
town..he is gonna wanna rape me for another one.
Any ideas?
Help..its getting cold in here....<G>
Any suggestions for checking the cap, the motor and?
Gunner, who works with 3ph stuff..seldom multispeed single phase stuff
One could not be a successful Leftwinger without realizing that,
in contrast to the popular conception supported by newspapers
and mothers of Leftwingers, a goodly number of Leftwingers are
not only narrow-minded and dull, but also just stupid.
Gunner Asch
month or so ago, it started having a difficult time coming up to speed
when it kicked on. I checked everything..and found a start cap. Which I
replaced out of a motor I had kicking around for years. 7.5uf
That started the motor running properly again...but tonight it started
humming and not turning. I try to spin the blower by hand with it in Run
mode..and its being held in place electrically. Turn off the power..and
it spins freely and has little bearing wear as best as I can determine.
Ive lubed it properly and religiously for all this time. No endplay..no
up and down play. I turned it on..and hand started it..and it came up
to speed..but still didnt sound right. Next time..it wouldnt start
again..just quivered.
I admit to being very weak on 3 speed open frame motors. Start relay
seems to be working fine, and when I bypass the relay..it still acts
slow and boggy.
It acts the same in high or low speed. Shrug..its never been in low for
all the years Ive run it...nearly 28 yrs.
Wtf? Did the replacement (it was dented slightly) fail as well? I dont
think Ive got another 7.5 uf cap and knowing the HVAC shop here in
town..he is gonna wanna rape me for another one.
Any ideas?
Help..its getting cold in here....<G>
Any suggestions for checking the cap, the motor and?
Gunner, who works with 3ph stuff..seldom multispeed single phase stuff
One could not be a successful Leftwinger without realizing that,
in contrast to the popular conception supported by newspapers
and mothers of Leftwingers, a goodly number of Leftwingers are
not only narrow-minded and dull, but also just stupid.
Gunner Asch
Delvin Benet
Dec 30, 2011, 3:27:06 AM12/30/11
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On 12/30/2011 12:07 AM, Gunner Asch wrote:
> My double wide ...
'nuff said
Yeah, I'll just bet you have blower questions...
> My double wide ...
'nuff said
Yeah, I'll just bet you have blower questions...
Steve W.
Dec 30, 2011, 4:26:26 AM12/30/11
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guts enough to cause it to fail when power was applied.
The unit in my shop is about that vintage Coleman and has a 3 speed on
it as well. The cap failed and the motor acted the same way.
http://www.mobilehomerepair.com/ColemanGas.php
Caps and other parts very reasonable.
--
Steve W.
Wild_Bill
Dec 30, 2011, 5:32:10 AM12/30/11
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Fuckin dimwit
dca...@krl.org
Dec 30, 2011, 6:41:05 AM12/30/11
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On Dec 30, 3:07 am, Gunner Asch <gunnera...@gmail.com> wrote:
> That started the motor running properly again...but tonight it started
> humming and not turning. I try to spin the blower by hand with it in Run
> mode..and its being held in place electrically. Turn off the power..and
> it spins freely and has little bearing wear as best as I can determine.
> Ive lubed it properly and religiously for all this time. No endplay..no
> up and down play. I turned it on..and hand started it..and it came up
> to speed..but still didnt sound right. Next time..it wouldnt start
> again..just quivered.
>
> Gunner Asch
> That started the motor running properly again...but tonight it started
> humming and not turning. I try to spin the blower by hand with it in Run
> mode..and its being held in place electrically. Turn off the power..and
> it spins freely and has little bearing wear as best as I can determine.
> Ive lubed it properly and religiously for all this time. No endplay..no
> up and down play. I turned it on..and hand started it..and it came up
> to speed..but still didnt sound right. Next time..it wouldnt start
> again..just quivered.
>
It sounds to me as if the bearings have worn and when the power is on
the rotor gets attracted to the case and rubs. Without the power on
it spins freely.
Dan
RogerN
Dec 30, 2011, 7:23:42 AM12/30/11
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>"Gunner Asch" wrote in message
>news:4krqf7psmcl3au9ul...@4ax.com...
phase shift to give direction to the rotating field. Capacitors can get
weak after a while, I worked at a motor repair place for a short time, when
the capacitors checked below their range, we replaced them. 7.5uF sounds
more like a run capacitor to me though. If there are relay contacts that
switch speeds it could be something isn't getting the connection.
I saw some interesting capacitor checkers that check capacitance and ESR,
might be a worthy investment for someone like you that does a lot of
equipment repair. The ESR checkers can find bad capacitors while they are
still on the board, they (some) send a 100khz 0.1V signal and measure the
capacitors Equivalent Series Resistance, I hear this is a common problem
with control boards and such.
RogerN
>news:4krqf7psmcl3au9ul...@4ax.com...
>
>My double wide was built in `1983 and it has a Coleman blower in it. A
>month or so ago, it started having a difficult time coming up to speed
>when it kicked on. I checked everything..and found a start cap. Which I
>replaced out of a motor I had kicking around for years. 7.5uf
>
<snip>
>My double wide was built in `1983 and it has a Coleman blower in it. A
>month or so ago, it started having a difficult time coming up to speed
>when it kicked on. I checked everything..and found a start cap. Which I
>replaced out of a motor I had kicking around for years. 7.5uf
>
>
>Gunner, who works with 3ph stuff..seldom multispeed single phase stuff
Sounds like when a 3ph motor is single phasing. The capacitor provides the
>Gunner, who works with 3ph stuff..seldom multispeed single phase stuff
phase shift to give direction to the rotating field. Capacitors can get
weak after a while, I worked at a motor repair place for a short time, when
the capacitors checked below their range, we replaced them. 7.5uF sounds
more like a run capacitor to me though. If there are relay contacts that
switch speeds it could be something isn't getting the connection.
I saw some interesting capacitor checkers that check capacitance and ESR,
might be a worthy investment for someone like you that does a lot of
equipment repair. The ESR checkers can find bad capacitors while they are
still on the board, they (some) send a 100khz 0.1V signal and measure the
capacitors Equivalent Series Resistance, I hear this is a common problem
with control boards and such.
RogerN
Gunner Asch
Dec 30, 2011, 1:02:38 PM12/30/11
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movement. And I can detect .0015 play (working as a machine tool tech
for a while helped hone the tactile)
Ive pushed hard in and out..with no friction noticed, as well as up and
down..and when it does run, and turn off at the end of a heating
cycle..it does take 5-15 seconds or longer to stop turning
However that was my first thought..but sometimes it works coming up
slowly..and other times it doesnt. A new motor is about $125
online..and its out of my price range at the moment.
But thanks!
Gunner
cl...@snyder.on.ca
Dec 30, 2011, 3:04:54 PM12/30/11
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On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 00:07:39 -0800, Gunner Asch <gunne...@gmail.com>
wrote:
I'd be betting on the cap having failed again. You know what they say
- if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck,
it likely craps like a duck too.
wrote:
- if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck,
it likely craps like a duck too.
cl...@snyder.on.ca
Dec 30, 2011, 3:06:56 PM12/30/11
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On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 10:02:38 -0800, Gunner Asch <gunne...@gmail.com>
wrote:
If you are afraid to bend over near your HVAC guy, try the motor
repair shop instead. Last one cost me less than $20.
wrote:
repair shop instead. Last one cost me less than $20.
RogerN
Dec 30, 2011, 4:47:18 PM12/30/11
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"Gunner Asch" wrote in message
news:fuurf7ljl6vcuo4hh...@4ax.com...
>On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 03:41:05 -0800 (PST), "dca...@krl.org"
><dca...@krl.org> wrote:
>
>>On Dec 30, 3:07 am, Gunner Asch <gunnera...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>It sounds to me as if the bearings have worn and when the power is on
>>the rotor gets attracted to the case and rubs. Without the power on
>>it spins freely.
>>
>> Dan
>
>
>However that was my first thought..but sometimes it works coming up
>slowly..and other times it doesnt. A new motor is about $125
>online..and its out of my price range at the moment.
>
>But thanks!
>
>Gunner
>
Did you try pull starting it? We had a fan acting the exact same way at
>slowly..and other times it doesnt. A new motor is about $125
>online..and its out of my price range at the moment.
>
>But thanks!
>
>Gunner
>
work, turn on the power and it acted like brakes were applied. We stuck
screwdrivers through the fan guard, got it turning a little, turned on, it
stopped as if we applied brakes. Then I took some electrical wire we had
handy, hooked and end on the fan blade, wound the fan backward a few turns,
like the old engines before recoil starting ropes, gave it a pull, spinning
pretty fast, turned on power and it ran fine... at least until the next time
it was turned off.
RogerN
Ken
Dec 30, 2011, 7:15:47 PM12/30/11
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On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 00:07:39 -0800, Gunner Asch <gunne...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Think I'd stick another cap on it.... the value could be a couple mfd
one way or the other and it still should work. 7.5 could be maybe 9.5
or even 5.5. Give it a shot - whaddya got to lose???
Ken Sterling
wrote:
one way or the other and it still should work. 7.5 could be maybe 9.5
or even 5.5. Give it a shot - whaddya got to lose???
Ken Sterling
Gunner Asch
Dec 30, 2011, 8:15:59 PM12/30/11
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dragging. Put power on it..and it locks. I can indeed turn it by hand
with the power on..but its surprisingly stout. No grinding or dragging
noise then either. Electromagnetic lock up.
dca...@krl.org
Dec 30, 2011, 8:28:48 PM12/30/11
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On Dec 30, 8:15 pm, Gunner Asch <gunnera...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> It spinds just fine with no power on it. Free, easy, no grinding, no
> dragging. Put power on it..and it locks. I can indeed turn it by hand
> with the power on..but its surprisingly stout. No grinding or dragging
> noise then either. Electromagnetic lock up.
>
> Gunner
Well you could try putting a sheet of paper between the rotor and the
>
> It spinds just fine with no power on it. Free, easy, no grinding, no
> dragging. Put power on it..and it locks. I can indeed turn it by hand
> with the power on..but its surprisingly stout. No grinding or dragging
> noise then either. Electromagnetic lock up.
>
> Gunner
stator. See if it turns freely and then apply power and turn the
shaft and see if it tears the paper. Or use some prussian blue. I
am still betting it is worn bearings. But the above will let you
know.
You ought to be able to find a used blower that still works. New
parts are very expensive.
Dan
Steve W.
Dec 30, 2011, 10:29:41 PM12/30/11
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100 bucks.
I installed one in my shop unit probably 6 years ago. Runs just fine and
I have an override switch that lets me run just the blower in the summer
to circulate the air from the A/C unit. 3/4 hp with a run cap.
http://www.mobilehomerepair.com/GenericHVAC.html#catalog
--
Steve W.
Gunner Asch
Dec 30, 2011, 10:59:31 PM12/30/11
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On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 19:15:47 -0500, Ken <kensn...@sysmatrix.net>
wrote:
Ill do just that. Ill see if I can afford one from the local guy.
Gunner
wrote:
Gunner
Gunner Asch
Dec 30, 2011, 11:01:09 PM12/30/11
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fan to the input vent in the utility room and let it run until I get
some money set aside.
Gunner Asch
Dec 31, 2011, 2:36:28 AM12/31/11
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On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 22:29:41 -0500, "Steve W." <csr6...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
Ayup..found them yesterday. Thats probably what Im going to have to do.
When more work comes in.
Sigh
wrote:
When more work comes in.
Sigh
RogerN
Dec 31, 2011, 8:22:15 AM12/31/11
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"Gunner Asch" wrote in message
><snip>
>Getting it out...will be an utter bitch. So I may fasten a breeze box
>fan to the input vent in the utility room and let it run until I get
>some money set aside.
>
>Gunner
If it's the capacitor you should be able to wrap rope around it and pull
>fan to the input vent in the utility room and let it run until I get
>some money set aside.
>
>Gunner
start, just like you can with homemade rotary phase converters made from a 3
phase motor running on single phase. If it's not spinning fast enough when
you turn on power to the motor, it will act like a brake and stop the motor.
If you can't get a pull start rope around it, maybe a belt and an electric
motor (pony motor) or electric drill to get it spinning.
The guy that owned the machine shop where I used to work once ran his blower
motor from a model steam engine when the power was out for a few days.
My previous home was a double wide and had a Coleman heat/ac unit, I had to
replace contactors and fuse blocks over the years.
RogerN
Robert Nichols
Dec 31, 2011, 11:22:45 AM12/31/11
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On 12/30/2011 07:15 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:
> It spinds just fine with no power on it. Free, easy, no grinding, no
> dragging. Put power on it..and it locks. I can indeed turn it by hand
> with the power on..but its surprisingly stout. No grinding or dragging
> noise then either. Electromagnetic lock up.
I wonder if a shorted cap might result in that. Have you tried
> It spinds just fine with no power on it. Free, easy, no grinding, no
> dragging. Put power on it..and it locks. I can indeed turn it by hand
> with the power on..but its surprisingly stout. No grinding or dragging
> noise then either. Electromagnetic lock up.
disconnecting the cap entirely and then trying to pull-start the
motor?
--
Bob Nichols AT comcast.net I am "RNichols42"
Jack Skolasky
Dec 31, 2011, 11:57:11 AM12/31/11
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On 12/30/2011 8:01 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:
> On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 17:28:48 -0800 (PST), "dca...@krl.org"
> <dca...@krl.org> wrote:
>
>> On Dec 30, 8:15 pm, Gunner Asch<gunnera...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>
>>> It spinds just fine with no power on it. Free, easy, no grinding, no
>>> dragging. Put power on it..and it locks. I can indeed turn it by hand
>>> with the power on..but its surprisingly stout. No grinding or dragging
>>> noise then either. Electromagnetic lock up.
>>>
>>> Gunner
>>
>> Well you could try putting a sheet of paper between the rotor and the
>> stator. See if it turns freely and then apply power and turn the
>> shaft and see if it tears the paper. Or use some prussian blue. I
>> am still betting it is worn bearings. But the above will let you
>> know.
>>
>> You ought to be able to find a used blower that still works. New
>> parts are very expensive.
>>
>>
>> Dan
>
> Getting it out...will be an utter bitch. So I may fasten a breeze box
> fan to the input vent in the utility room and let it run until I get
> some money set aside.
"Until [you] get some money set aside"? I thought you were a land baron
> On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 17:28:48 -0800 (PST), "dca...@krl.org"
> <dca...@krl.org> wrote:
>
>> On Dec 30, 8:15 pm, Gunner Asch<gunnera...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>
>>> It spinds just fine with no power on it. Free, easy, no grinding, no
>>> dragging. Put power on it..and it locks. I can indeed turn it by hand
>>> with the power on..but its surprisingly stout. No grinding or dragging
>>> noise then either. Electromagnetic lock up.
>>>
>>> Gunner
>>
>> Well you could try putting a sheet of paper between the rotor and the
>> stator. See if it turns freely and then apply power and turn the
>> shaft and see if it tears the paper. Or use some prussian blue. I
>> am still betting it is worn bearings. But the above will let you
>> know.
>>
>> You ought to be able to find a used blower that still works. New
>> parts are very expensive.
>>
>>
>> Dan
>
> Getting it out...will be an utter bitch. So I may fasten a breeze box
> fan to the input vent in the utility room and let it run until I get
> some money set aside.
there in Teats or whatever the fuck the place is called? I thought you
were raking in Big Bucks doing sophisticated $684,000 real estate deals
in Redondo Beach? I guess that was all bullshit, eh?
Face it - you're just a dirty, Olive Av South Teats scrounger.
Snag
Dec 31, 2011, 1:23:35 PM12/31/11
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t'stat to "on" and let 'er run . I useta do that to help cover outside noise
at night but have found it also helps even out temps throughout the house -
especially in the summer . 'Bout as expensive as running a couple of ceiling
fans .
--
Snag
Learning keeps
you young !
cl...@snyder.on.ca
Dec 31, 2011, 1:26:11 PM12/31/11
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are not spinning. They are trying to run both directions at once - and
that puts them in a "locked rotor" situation,
sbalneav
Dec 31, 2011, 1:26:24 PM12/31/11
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On 11-12-31 10:57 AM, Jack Skolasky wrote:
> On 12/30/2011 8:01 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:
>> On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 17:28:48 -0800 (PST), "dca...@krl.org"
>> <dca...@krl.org> wrote:
>>
>>> On Dec 30, 8:15 pm, Gunner Asch<gunnera...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> It spinds just fine with no power on it. Free, easy, no grinding, no
>>>> dragging. Put power on it..and it locks. I can indeed turn it by hand
>>>> with the power on..but its surprisingly stout. No grinding or dragging
>>>> noise then either. Electromagnetic lock up.
>>>>
>>>> Gunner
>>>
>>> Well you could try putting a sheet of paper between the rotor and the
>>> stator. See if it turns freely and then apply power and turn the
>>> shaft and see if it tears the paper. Or use some prussian blue. I
>>> am still betting it is worn bearings. But the above will let you
>>> know.
>>>
>>> You ought to be able to find a used blower that still works. New
>>> parts are very expensive.
>>>
>>>
>>> Dan
>>
>> Getting it out...will be an utter bitch. So I may fasten a breeze box
>> fan to the input vent in the utility room and let it run until I get
>> some money set aside.
Coming into the conversation late; just got crossposted to a.a
> On 12/30/2011 8:01 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:
>> On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 17:28:48 -0800 (PST), "dca...@krl.org"
>> <dca...@krl.org> wrote:
>>
>>> On Dec 30, 8:15 pm, Gunner Asch<gunnera...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> It spinds just fine with no power on it. Free, easy, no grinding, no
>>>> dragging. Put power on it..and it locks. I can indeed turn it by hand
>>>> with the power on..but its surprisingly stout. No grinding or dragging
>>>> noise then either. Electromagnetic lock up.
>>>>
>>>> Gunner
>>>
>>> Well you could try putting a sheet of paper between the rotor and the
>>> stator. See if it turns freely and then apply power and turn the
>>> shaft and see if it tears the paper. Or use some prussian blue. I
>>> am still betting it is worn bearings. But the above will let you
>>> know.
>>>
>>> You ought to be able to find a used blower that still works. New
>>> parts are very expensive.
>>>
>>>
>>> Dan
>>
>> Getting it out...will be an utter bitch. So I may fasten a breeze box
>> fan to the input vent in the utility room and let it run until I get
>> some money set aside.
If it's a furnace blower motor, it's probably a brushless, AC induction
job (1/3 HP or so). Does it have a starter capacitor?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AC_motor#Capacitor_start_motor
If that cap's shorted, that'll lock it up solid. Might want to check
that. Don't need a fancy cap tester; simple multimeter should do.
just pop off the leads, and check for zero resistance.
HTH, Gunner.
Wild_Bill
Dec 31, 2011, 1:33:54 PM12/31/11
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Whoose the only one here that repeatedly claims to be an experienced
professional machine repair technician?
Yet, the gumbass can't troubleshoot one of the most simple of machines.. a
motor, which has ONE moving part.
For those of you who don't have access to a Gummer translator/decoder ring,
his post meant he expected some sucker to send him a free capacitor for his
neglected, old furnace blower.
The unit was already old 20 years ago, and the only time it was fixed was
with a used part.. that doesn't even qualify as a repair.
Since then, he hasn't had enough money to buy a new part, which most of the
HSMs here could easily find for about $8 new.
In all the years of owning the old furnace, it never occurred to the
hopeless dimwit to find a replacement motor or a spare capacitor.. just oil
the motor.
The badass highly-trained, experienced Army killer is afraid a local parts
dealer will
overcharge him for a part.
Fucking incredible that a legendary icon such as himself doesn't have
countless local friends or contacts who stock parts and would give him a
decent discount because after all, he's the owner of a business which has
helped them numerous times, and supported their livelyhoods with his many
purchases.
When this fuckup needs something repaired, he takes the item to folks that
know what they're doing, or turns to his knowledgeable friends in RCM for
sympathy and pity.
Although his worthless company name includes the descriptive term
Engineering, he basically doesn't know his reeking ass from a hole in the
ground.
He can't distinguish what type of motor it is from observation or referring
to the wiring
diagram. He can sit there and wiggle the shaft and spin it around, and
that's the limit of his many years of professional machine technician
experience.
He doesn't need no steenkin furnace.. he's a mastermind survivalist, at
least as long as the citizens of California can afford to keep him alive..
besides, if he can't afford a capacitor, he can't pay a utility bill
either.. but maybe the liberal government will.
Too bad that woman isn't still there to take care of his needs, although I
don't recall Gummer ever having anything nice or appreciative to say about
her.. even after she took care of him after his heart problems.
His words were often more like worthless bitch or nothing but a burden on
his lifestyle.
It seems as though his son has abandoned him too, or maybe he's just a chip
off the old block.
Who IS that BAD MF?
That's Shafted.. and without a clue.
Happy New Year All
--
WB
.........
professional machine repair technician?
Yet, the gumbass can't troubleshoot one of the most simple of machines.. a
motor, which has ONE moving part.
For those of you who don't have access to a Gummer translator/decoder ring,
his post meant he expected some sucker to send him a free capacitor for his
neglected, old furnace blower.
The unit was already old 20 years ago, and the only time it was fixed was
with a used part.. that doesn't even qualify as a repair.
Since then, he hasn't had enough money to buy a new part, which most of the
HSMs here could easily find for about $8 new.
In all the years of owning the old furnace, it never occurred to the
hopeless dimwit to find a replacement motor or a spare capacitor.. just oil
the motor.
The badass highly-trained, experienced Army killer is afraid a local parts
dealer will
overcharge him for a part.
Fucking incredible that a legendary icon such as himself doesn't have
countless local friends or contacts who stock parts and would give him a
decent discount because after all, he's the owner of a business which has
helped them numerous times, and supported their livelyhoods with his many
purchases.
When this fuckup needs something repaired, he takes the item to folks that
know what they're doing, or turns to his knowledgeable friends in RCM for
sympathy and pity.
Although his worthless company name includes the descriptive term
Engineering, he basically doesn't know his reeking ass from a hole in the
ground.
He can't distinguish what type of motor it is from observation or referring
to the wiring
diagram. He can sit there and wiggle the shaft and spin it around, and
that's the limit of his many years of professional machine technician
experience.
He doesn't need no steenkin furnace.. he's a mastermind survivalist, at
least as long as the citizens of California can afford to keep him alive..
besides, if he can't afford a capacitor, he can't pay a utility bill
either.. but maybe the liberal government will.
Too bad that woman isn't still there to take care of his needs, although I
don't recall Gummer ever having anything nice or appreciative to say about
her.. even after she took care of him after his heart problems.
His words were often more like worthless bitch or nothing but a burden on
his lifestyle.
It seems as though his son has abandoned him too, or maybe he's just a chip
off the old block.
Who IS that BAD MF?
That's Shafted.. and without a clue.
Happy New Year All
--
WB
.........
Jack Skolasky
Dec 31, 2011, 2:35:36 PM12/31/11
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On 12/31/2011 10:33 AM, Wild_Bill wrote:
> Whoose the only one here that repeatedly claims to be an experienced
> professional machine repair technician?
>
> Yet, the gumbass can't troubleshoot one of the most simple of machines..
> a motor, which has ONE moving part.
>
> For those of you who don't have access to a Gummer translator/decoder
> ring, his post meant he expected some sucker to send him a free
> capacitor for his neglected, old furnace blower.
Ha ha ha ha ha! That would fit! The guy is just the grubbiest sort of
> Whoose the only one here that repeatedly claims to be an experienced
> professional machine repair technician?
>
> Yet, the gumbass can't troubleshoot one of the most simple of machines..
> a motor, which has ONE moving part.
>
> For those of you who don't have access to a Gummer translator/decoder
> ring, his post meant he expected some sucker to send him a free
> capacitor for his neglected, old furnace blower.
scrounger.
>
> The unit was already old 20 years ago, and the only time it was fixed
> was with a used part.. that doesn't even qualify as a repair.
> Since then, he hasn't had enough money to buy a new part, which most of
> the HSMs here could easily find for about $8 new.
>
> In all the years of owning the old furnace, it never occurred to the
> hopeless dimwit to find a replacement motor or a spare capacitor.. just
> oil the motor.
>
> The badass highly-trained, experienced Army killer is afraid a local
> parts dealer will overcharge him for a part.
>
> Fucking incredible that a legendary icon such as himself doesn't have
> countless local friends or contacts who stock parts and would give him a
> decent discount because after all, he's the owner of a business which
> has helped them numerous times, and supported their livelyhoods with his
> many purchases.
>
> When this fuckup needs something repaired, he takes the item to folks
> that know what they're doing, or turns to his knowledgeable friends in
> RCM for sympathy and pity.
>
> Although his worthless company name includes the descriptive term
> Engineering, he basically doesn't know his reeking ass from a hole in
> the ground.
This set of gummer photos ought to help explain why:
https://plus.google.com/photos/104042282269066802602/albums/5297721893976731153/5297722011673270850?banner=pwa
>
> He can't distinguish what type of motor it is from observation or
> referring to the wiring
> diagram. He can sit there and wiggle the shaft and spin it around, and
> that's the limit of his many years of professional machine technician
> experience.
>
> He doesn't need no steenkin furnace.. he's a mastermind survivalist, at
> least as long as the citizens of California can afford to keep him
> alive.. besides, if he can't afford a capacitor, he can't pay a utility
> bill either.. but maybe the liberal government will.
>
> Too bad that woman isn't still there to take care of his needs, although
> I don't recall Gummer ever having anything nice or appreciative to say
> about her.. even after she took care of him after his heart problems.
> His words were often more like worthless bitch or nothing but a burden
> on his lifestyle.
> It seems as though his son has abandoned him too, or maybe he's just a
> chip off the old block.
>
> Who IS that BAD MF?
>
> That's Shafted.. and without a clue.
>
> Happy New Year All
Very happy New Year to you too, Bill.
Colanth
Dec 31, 2011, 4:43:55 PM12/31/11
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for cardboard to patch up the holes in his "house".
--
"To surrender to ignorance and call it God has always been premature,
and it remains premature today." - Isaac Asimov
Gunner Asch
Dec 31, 2011, 6:49:45 PM12/31/11
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>
>"Until [you] get some money set aside"? I thought you were a land baron
>there in Teats or whatever the fuck the place is called? I thought you
>were raking in Big Bucks doing sophisticated $684,000 real estate deals
>in Redondo Beach? I guess that was all bullshit, eh?
>
>Face it - you're just a dirty, Olive Av South Teats scrounger.
ready his deceased dads home in Redondo Beach. Thats doing "real estate
deals"?
So who are you going to be after I <plink> you this time?
Fascinating how you have absolutely no balls whatsoever. Did that happen
in an accident or were you the result of talidiomide?
Gunner Asch
Dec 31, 2011, 7:10:56 PM12/31/11
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On Sat, 31 Dec 2011 12:26:24 -0600, sbalneav <sbal...@alburg.net>
wrote:
Thanks! Ill do just that.
Off to grab a meter.
wrote:
Off to grab a meter.
Raylene Slusser
Dec 31, 2011, 7:15:57 PM12/31/11
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forgotten. What is it, again, that you think it proves to copy and
paste those headers into your reply? I really can't see what benefit
that is to you at all. Maybe you explained it and it slipped my memory.
Be a pal and tell me again, won't you, please?
>>
>> "Until [you] get some money set aside"? I thought you were a land baron
>> there in Teats or whatever the fuck the place is called? I thought you
>> were raking in Big Bucks doing sophisticated $684,000 real estate deals
>> in Redondo Beach? I guess that was all bullshit, eh?
>>
>> Face it - you're just a dirty, Olive Av South Teats scrounger.
>
> Real estate deals? Blink blink? I helped a buddy clean out and get
> ready his deceased dads home in Redondo Beach. Thats doing "real estate
> deals"?
I just *closed* a house in Redondo Beach that was a suckhole..about
like any South Taft house..and it went for $684,000
[emphasis added]
http://groups.google.com/group/talk.politics.animals/msg/bde9c1dedc4c013c
Yes, gummer, you *did* write it. You posted that on Nov. 30 at a couple
minutes before 5:00pm PST.
gummer, when people say they "closed" a house for $684,000, that means
they bought it or sold it - either as the seller or buyer, or as an
agent. Now, it emerges you were just helping a buddy "clean out and get
ready" a house. Were you deliberately trying to mislead, gummer?
gummer, when I wrote that I was about to sell my little house for over
$450,000, I meant that I was the fucking owner. I pocketed a couple of
hundred thousand on that sale, gummer. I wasn't "helping a buddy" or
any such bullshit.
I still maintain that I could buy your entire fucking block, including
the weed-choked vacant lot across the street, with the amount of money I
realized *after* closing. Of course, I couldn't afford the toxic waste
cleanup from all the methamphetamine waste on your and your neighbors'
properties, so you shan't be seeing me and my agent there any time soon.
>
> So who are you going to be after I<plink> you this time?
it when you see it.
> Fascinating how you have absolutely no balls whatsoever. Did that happen
> in an accident or were you the result of talidiomide?
Thalidomide (not <chortle> "talidiomide" [sic]) never was approved for
sale in the United States.
Jack Skolasky
Dec 31, 2011, 7:17:21 PM12/31/11
to
Keep that crap to yourself, boy.
sbalneav
Dec 31, 2011, 7:47:27 PM12/31/11
to
Before doing ANY electrical work on ANY mains powered device,
ALWAYS MAKE SURE IT'S TURNED OFF AT THE BREAKER PANEL.
Gunner Asch
Dec 31, 2011, 9:23:41 PM12/31/11
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<VBG>
Raylene...laugh laugh laugh!!
>
>
>>>
>>> "Until [you] get some money set aside"? I thought you were a land baron
>>> there in Teats or whatever the fuck the place is called? I thought you
>>> were raking in Big Bucks doing sophisticated $684,000 real estate deals
>>> in Redondo Beach? I guess that was all bullshit, eh?
>>>
>>> Face it - you're just a dirty, Olive Av South Teats scrounger.
>>
>> Real estate deals? Blink blink? I helped a buddy clean out and get
>> ready his deceased dads home in Redondo Beach. Thats doing "real estate
>> deals"?
>
>gummer, didn't you write:
>
> I just *closed* a house in Redondo Beach that was a suckhole..about
> like any South Taft house..and it went for $684,000
> [emphasis added]
>
>http://groups.google.com/group/talk.politics.animals/msg/bde9c1dedc4c013c
>
I sure did close a house in Redondo Beach. I however didnt CLOSE ON a
>
>>>
>>> "Until [you] get some money set aside"? I thought you were a land baron
>>> there in Teats or whatever the fuck the place is called? I thought you
>>> were raking in Big Bucks doing sophisticated $684,000 real estate deals
>>> in Redondo Beach? I guess that was all bullshit, eh?
>>>
>>> Face it - you're just a dirty, Olive Av South Teats scrounger.
>>
>> Real estate deals? Blink blink? I helped a buddy clean out and get
>> ready his deceased dads home in Redondo Beach. Thats doing "real estate
>> deals"?
>
>gummer, didn't you write:
>
> I just *closed* a house in Redondo Beach that was a suckhole..about
> like any South Taft house..and it went for $684,000
> [emphasis added]
>
>http://groups.google.com/group/talk.politics.animals/msg/bde9c1dedc4c013c
>
house in Redondo Beach.
You really are a fucking Idiot..Raylenne
>
>Yes, gummer, you *did* write it. You posted that on Nov. 30 at a couple
>minutes before 5:00pm PST.
Sure did
>Yes, gummer, you *did* write it. You posted that on Nov. 30 at a couple
>minutes before 5:00pm PST.
>
>gummer, when people say they "closed" a house for $684,000, that means
>they bought it or sold it - either as the seller or buyer, or as an
>agent. Now, it emerges you were just helping a buddy "clean out and get
>ready" a house. Were you deliberately trying to mislead, gummer?
No you fucking dumb shit..they say Closed ON. Laugh laugh laugh
>gummer, when people say they "closed" a house for $684,000, that means
>they bought it or sold it - either as the seller or buyer, or as an
>agent. Now, it emerges you were just helping a buddy "clean out and get
>ready" a house. Were you deliberately trying to mislead, gummer?
Such a fucking dweeb. I indeed closed or closed down a house in Red
Beach.
Took everything out of it. Cleaned it out. Replaced broken Stuff. Fixed
it up. Turned off the water and the cable and internet. Closed it.
So when a business closes at the end of the day..its been sold?????
>
>gummer, when I wrote that I was about to sell my little house for over
>$450,000, I meant that I was the fucking owner. I pocketed a couple of
>hundred thousand on that sale, gummer. I wasn't "helping a buddy" or
>any such bullshit.
Bummer. Must not have had much of a house.
>gummer, when I wrote that I was about to sell my little house for over
>$450,000, I meant that I was the fucking owner. I pocketed a couple of
>hundred thousand on that sale, gummer. I wasn't "helping a buddy" or
>any such bullshit.
>
>I still maintain that I could buy your entire fucking block, including
>the weed-choked vacant lot across the street, with the amount of money I
>realized *after* closing. Of course, I couldn't afford the toxic waste
>cleanup from all the methamphetamine waste on your and your neighbors'
>properties, so you shan't be seeing me and my agent there any time soon.
Go for it. Double dog dare you. <VBG>
>I still maintain that I could buy your entire fucking block, including
>the weed-choked vacant lot across the street, with the amount of money I
>realized *after* closing. Of course, I couldn't afford the toxic waste
>cleanup from all the methamphetamine waste on your and your neighbors'
>properties, so you shan't be seeing me and my agent there any time soon.
Dont forget its California in a dying town..and my place still has axles
under it. Add some tires, break it in half, and move it off the lots.
And you will be stuck with land in a dying town. There is a empty lot
next to my lots..been for sale for 6 yrs now. Still no buyers.
There is a completely finished brand new house kiddy corner from
me..been empty..and for sale for 5 yrs.
Sure you want to try to fuck with me that badly?
I can spend $5k..and move my place to an acre out in the oil fields for
a 99 yr lease at $20 a year. <VBG>
It would be nice to get out of town and onto a flat lot.
Go for it!! Double dog dare you, you bitch. <VBG>
>
>>
>> So who are you going to be after I<plink> you this time?
>
>Some other of your friends, goober. Don't worry about it. You'll know
>it when you see it.
since 1971 when we graduated highschool. Which just shows what a
fucking deranged bitch you really are. Ive become your hobby havent I?
<VBG>
Good. Keep it up..and Ill return the favor. You do know I know people
who work for giganews..right? A couple favors..Ill have your billing
information, then your name, your address and then another phone call or
two..and we can call you Cliff 2.
Lets play!! Sure you want to?
>
>
>> Fascinating how you have absolutely no balls whatsoever. Did that happen
>> in an accident or were you the result of talidiomide?
>
>If you weren't such a clueless douchebag, Dwieber, you'd know that
>Thalidomide (not <chortle> "talidiomide" [sic]) never was approved for
>sale in the United States.
Did I claim you were not a military brat?
>
>> Fascinating how you have absolutely no balls whatsoever. Did that happen
>> in an accident or were you the result of talidiomide?
>
>If you weren't such a clueless douchebag, Dwieber, you'd know that
>Thalidomide (not <chortle> "talidiomide" [sic]) never was approved for
>sale in the United States.
Laugh laugh laugh!!!
And spelling flames..the last resort of the fucktard. Isnt that
right...Raylenne Slusser?
Laugh laugh laugh!!
Looks like we have a game of chicken going on.
Sure you are willing to pay the ultimate price?
Gunner Asch
Dec 31, 2011, 9:36:07 PM12/31/11
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Troll along widdle space cadet.....
Colanth
Dec 31, 2011, 9:33:03 PM12/31/11
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On Sat, 31 Dec 2011 16:15:57 -0800, Raylene Slusser
<kick.d...@SouthTeats.con> wrote:
<kick.d...@SouthTeats.con> wrote:
>If you weren't such a clueless douchebag, Dwieber, you'd know that
>Thalidomide (not <chortle> "talidiomide" [sic]) never was approved for
>sale in the United States.
And that it affected long bone growth, not balls (which his kind is
>Thalidomide (not <chortle> "talidiomide" [sic]) never was approved for
>sale in the United States.
usually lacking, except for the area under their noses).
--
"A stupid man's report of what a clever man says can never be
accurate, because he unconsciously translates what he hears into
something he can understand." - Bertrand Russell
Ray Keller
Dec 31, 2011, 10:16:21 PM12/31/11
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Then why does the local wallgreens have it on the shelf in the pharmacy?
Ray Keller
Dec 31, 2011, 10:36:04 PM12/31/11
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>
>
>
>
> > On Sat, 31 Dec 2011 08:57:11 -0800, Jack Skolasky
> > <kick.dwee...@SouthTeats.con> wrote:
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>
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>
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>
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> Yes, gummer, you *did* write it. You posted that on Nov. 30 at a couple
> minutes before 5:00pm PST.
>
> gummer, when people say they "closed" a house for $684,000, that means
> they bought it or sold it - either as the seller or buyer, or as an
> agent. Now, it emerges you were just helping a buddy "clean out and get
> ready" a house. Were you deliberately trying to mislead, gummer?
>
> gummer, when I wrote that I was about to sell my little house for over
> $450,000, I meant that I was the fucking owner. I pocketed a couple of
> hundred thousand on that sale, gummer. I wasn't "helping a buddy" or
> any such bullshit.
>
> I still maintain that I could buy your entire fucking block, including
> the weed-choked vacant lot across the street, with the amount of money I
> realized *after* closing. Of course, I couldn't afford the toxic waste
> cleanup from all the methamphetamine waste on your and your neighbors'
> properties, so you shan't be seeing me and my agent there any time soon.
>
>
>
> > So who are you going to be after I<plink> you this time?
>
> Some other of your friends, goober. Don't worry about it. You'll know
> it when you see it.
>
> > Fascinating how you have absolutely no balls whatsoever. Did that happen
> > in an accident or were you the result of talidiomide?
>
> If you weren't such a clueless douchebag, Dwieber, you'd know that
> Thalidomide (not <chortle> "talidiomide" [sic]) never was approved for
> sale in the United States
> =====================================================
> Then why does the local wallgreens have it on the shelf in the pharmacy?- Hide quoted text -
> Yes, gummer, you *did* write it. You posted that on Nov. 30 at a couple
> minutes before 5:00pm PST.
>
> gummer, when people say they "closed" a house for $684,000, that means
> they bought it or sold it - either as the seller or buyer, or as an
> agent. Now, it emerges you were just helping a buddy "clean out and get
> ready" a house. Were you deliberately trying to mislead, gummer?
>
> gummer, when I wrote that I was about to sell my little house for over
> $450,000, I meant that I was the fucking owner. I pocketed a couple of
> hundred thousand on that sale, gummer. I wasn't "helping a buddy" or
> any such bullshit.
>
> I still maintain that I could buy your entire fucking block, including
> the weed-choked vacant lot across the street, with the amount of money I
> realized *after* closing. Of course, I couldn't afford the toxic waste
> cleanup from all the methamphetamine waste on your and your neighbors'
> properties, so you shan't be seeing me and my agent there any time soon.
>
>
>
> > So who are you going to be after I<plink> you this time?
>
> Some other of your friends, goober. Don't worry about it. You'll know
> it when you see it.
>
> > Fascinating how you have absolutely no balls whatsoever. Did that happen
> > in an accident or were you the result of talidiomide?
>
> If you weren't such a clueless douchebag, Dwieber, you'd know that
> Thalidomide (not <chortle> "talidiomide" [sic]) never was approved for
> sale in the United States
> =====================================================
>
> - Show quoted text -
LOL at another butt stupid leftard
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thalidomide
United States
On July 16, 1998, the FDA approved the use of thalidomide for the
treatment of lesions associated with erythema nodosum leprosum (ENL).
Because of thalidomide's potential for causing birth defects, the drug
may be distributed only under tightly controlled conditions. The FDA
required that Celgene Corporation, which planned to market thalidomide
under the brand name Thalomid, establish a system for thalidomide
education and prescribing safety (STEPS) oversight program. The
conditions required under the program include limiting prescription
and dispensing rights only to authorized prescribers and pharmacies,
keeping a registry of all patients prescribed thalidomide, providing
extensive patient education about the risks associated with the drug,
and providing periodic pregnancy tests for women who take the drug.
[36] On May 26, 2006, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration granted
accelerated approval for thalidomide (Thalomid, Celgene Corporation)
in combination with dexamethasone for the treatment of newly diagnosed
multiple myeloma (MM) patients.[37] The FDA approval came seven years
after the first reports of efficacy in the medical literature[38] and
Celgene took advantage of "off-label" marketing opportunities to
promote the drug in advance of its FDA approval for the myeloma
indication. Thalomid, as the drug is commercially known, sold over
$300 million per year, while approved only for leprosy.[39]
David Lesher
Jan 1, 2012, 1:01:14 AM1/1/12
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Power off
Spin motor as fast as possible.
power on.
Once spun, the motor should continue with just the run winding.
What happens? It sounds like there's something wrong in the
starting circuit.
Wild_Bill
Jan 1, 2012, 2:42:16 AM1/1/12
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In principle, at least for a split-phase motor, this should work.. if one is
capable of understanding what's taking place.
Trouble is, if one refuses to learn what they need to know, no amount of
meter checking, paper shimming, jumpering, oiling, spinning by pull cord or
other trick will result in any worthwhile results.
One can never be too old or feeble to be able to hang onto the stubborness
that keeps them stupid.
Tens of thousands of hours spent finding, copying/pasting and spreading
distorted propaganda is only rational to a mind not based in reality.
My summation was accurate, he's shafted. That's what happens when someone is
deeply engrossed in fanaticism, nothing else is important.
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capable of understanding what's taking place.
Trouble is, if one refuses to learn what they need to know, no amount of
meter checking, paper shimming, jumpering, oiling, spinning by pull cord or
other trick will result in any worthwhile results.
One can never be too old or feeble to be able to hang onto the stubborness
that keeps them stupid.
Tens of thousands of hours spent finding, copying/pasting and spreading
distorted propaganda is only rational to a mind not based in reality.
My summation was accurate, he's shafted. That's what happens when someone is
deeply engrossed in fanaticism, nothing else is important.
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PrecisionmachinisT
Jan 1, 2012, 3:43:48 AM1/1/12
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"sbalneav" <sbal...@alburg.net> wrote in message
news:jdnk4h$slm$1...@dont-email.me...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AC_motor#Permanent-split_capacitor_motor
Addtionally, you both are dumber than a box of old door knobs.
PrecisionmachinisT
Jan 1, 2012, 3:47:37 AM1/1/12
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Gunner Asch
Jan 1, 2012, 6:38:38 AM1/1/12
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Anything else to spew about?
Gunner Asch
Jan 1, 2012, 6:50:07 AM1/1/12
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Ok..the war is on.
First blood or is it over when your heart stops beating?
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Ok..the war is on.
First blood or is it over when your heart stops beating?
Gunner Asch
Jan 1, 2012, 6:54:21 AM1/1/12
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On Sat, 31 Dec 2011 18:47:27 -0600, sbalneav <sbal...@alburg.net>
Dude..its a 110vt motor. I work on 50 hp 440 volt hardware every day at
work.
See...its really simple..I just touch this to
thZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZAAAAAAAAAAAAPPPPPPPPP!!
Thud....
work.
See...its really simple..I just touch this to
thZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZAAAAAAAAAAAAPPPPPPPPP!!
Thud....
Paul Drahn
Jan 1, 2012, 8:57:42 AM1/1/12
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> One could not be a successful Leftwinger without realizing that,
> in contrast to the popular conception supported by newspapers
> and mothers of Leftwingers, a goodly number of Leftwingers are
> not only narrow-minded and dull, but also just stupid.
> Gunner Asch
Sorry, I have been away for a day. We have a triple-wide, same age,
> in contrast to the popular conception supported by newspapers
> and mothers of Leftwingers, a goodly number of Leftwingers are
> not only narrow-minded and dull, but also just stupid.
> Gunner Asch
Coleman heat pump/ac.
I started to write a long dissertation on my similar problem, but to
make a long story short, The AC cap shorted and burned a winding on
motor. Replacement from Ebay had AC cap that worked, but low in value.
Correct new AC cap fixed all.
You are lucky not to have a shorted cap. Just replace it.
Had the unit serviced by heating co. and they check and replace the AC
cap regularly on service calls.
That is your problem.
Paul
Gunner Asch
Jan 1, 2012, 2:47:19 PM1/1/12
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On Sun, 01 Jan 2012 05:57:42 -0800, Paul Drahn <pdr...@webformixair.com>
wrote:
Replace the cap or the motor or both?
Thanks!
Gunner
wrote:
Thanks!
Gunner
sbalneav
Jan 1, 2012, 2:52:29 PM1/1/12
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switch, and makes an audible "click" when it's up to speed. Either way,
if the cap is shorted, depending on the wiring configuration, it can
lead to the "Locked up while on" condition he describes.
> Addtionally, you both are dumber than a box of old door knobs.
cap is dumb? How so?
Colanth
Jan 1, 2012, 3:26:07 PM1/1/12
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On Sun, 01 Jan 2012 03:50:07 -0800, Gunner Asch <gunne...@gmail.com>
wrote:
>Ok..the war is on.
>
>First blood or is it over when your heart stops beating?
It's already over - your head stopped a long time ago. Are you SURE
you came back from Nam?
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wrote:
>Ok..the war is on.
>
>First blood or is it over when your heart stops beating?
you came back from Nam?
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George Plimpton
Jan 1, 2012, 3:36:27 PM1/1/12
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On 1/1/2012 12:26 PM, Colanth wrote:
> On Sun, 01 Jan 2012 03:50:07 -0800, Gunner Asch<gunne...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Ok..the war is on.
>>
>> First blood or is it over when your heart stops beating?
>
> It's already over - your head stopped a long time ago. Are you SURE
> you came back from Nam?
He can't come back from a place to which he never went.
> On Sun, 01 Jan 2012 03:50:07 -0800, Gunner Asch<gunne...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Ok..the war is on.
>>
>> First blood or is it over when your heart stops beating?
>
> It's already over - your head stopped a long time ago. Are you SURE
> you came back from Nam?
George Plimpton
Jan 1, 2012, 3:59:22 PM1/1/12
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Sorry, I should have been more specific. Thalidomide was never approved
in the US as a morning sickness drug in the 1950s, and was never
dispensed here for that purpose. There is a small number of American
children with birth defects linked to Thalidomide taken by their mothers
during pregnancy while traveling or living in Europe.
Thalidomide is frequently mentioned as an example to support the testing
of drugs on animals. "Animal rights" lunatics commonly say that testing
drugs on animals "doesn't work", but in fact Thalidomide proved to be
teratogenic (causing limb defects) in every mammal species on which it
has been tested. The drug was not tested for teratogenicity by the
German drug developer. An American pharmacologist at the FDA, Frances
Oldham Kelsey, an early pioneer in detecting that drugs could pass the
placental barrier, refused to approve the drug in the US.
Colanth
Jan 1, 2012, 7:09:41 PM1/1/12
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On Sun, 01 Jan 2012 13:52:29 -0600, sbalneav <sbal...@alburg.net>
wrote:
Maybe he means that it could be a welded switch?
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Jan 1, 2012, 8:05:55 PM1/1/12
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winding of the motor to cause a phase shift, generating torque for the
motor. When either the cap or the winding is gone, the motor won't turn
under power.
Just replace the cap and you should be fine.
Paul
Paul Duca (tomservo56954@comcast.net)
Jan 1, 2012, 9:12:04 PM1/1/12
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modern-day Thalidomide...they make a new pile, and those you call
Fleabaggers are told to be grateful that pregnant females won't spend
the day throwing up, so they can continue homemaking duties until
their water breaks.
Paul
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osugeography
Jan 2, 2012, 1:36:23 AM1/2/12
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Your last line is incorrect. Thalidomide was used about 15 months ago
to treat multiple myeloma of a family member, in the USA.
If you rely entirely on Wikipedia on Thalidomide, as on many other
things, you may talk about stupid leftwards, while you are personally
ignorant of current pharmacopeia.
Marvin Sebourn
osugeo...@aol.com
pyotr filipivich
Jan 2, 2012, 3:20:23 AM1/2/12
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Gunner Asch <gunne...@gmail.com> on Sun, 01 Jan 2012 03:54:21 -0800
typed in misc.survivalism the following:
Well he's no fun, he fell right over.
Yes, and let all the magic smoke out ...
--
pyotr filipivich
Next month's Panel: Graft - Boon or blessing?
typed in misc.survivalism the following:
Yes, and let all the magic smoke out ...
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pyotr filipivich
Next month's Panel: Graft - Boon or blessing?
Gunner Asch
Jan 2, 2012, 6:51:57 AM1/2/12
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On Sun, 1 Jan 2012 22:36:23 -0800 (PST), osugeography
<osugeo...@aol.com> wrote:
>Thalidomide
As for those that claim it was never used in the US...perhaps they
should read this...from the same wiki article
In the late 1950s and early 1960s, more than 10,000 children in 46
countries were born with deformities, such as phocomelia, as a
consequence of thalidomide use.[16] The Australian obstetrician William
McBride and the German pediatrician Widukind Lenz suspected a link
between birth defects and the drug, a theory Lenz proved in
1961.[17][18] McBride was later awarded a number of honours, including a
medal and prize money by the prestigious L'Institut de la Vie in
Paris.[19]
In the United Kingdom, the drug was licensed in 1958. Of the
approximately 2,000 babies born with defects, 466 survived.[20] The drug
was withdrawn in 1961. In 1968, after a long campaign by The Sunday
Times newspaper, a compensation settlement for the UK victims was
reached with Distillers Company (now part of Diageo).[21][22] This
compensation, which is distributed by the Thalidomide Trust in the UK,
was substantially increased by Diageo in 2005.[23] The UK Government
gave survivors a grant of £20 million, to be distributed through the
Thalidomide Trust, in December 2009.[2] In Germany approximately 2,500
thalidomide babies were born.[18]
1962: FDA pharmacologist Frances Oldham Kelsey receives an award from
President John F. Kennedy for blocking sale of thalidomide in the United
States.
In the United States, pharmacologist and M.D. Frances Oldham Kelsey
refused Food and Drug Administration (FDA) approval for an application
from the Richardson-Merrell company to market thalidomide, saying
further studies were needed, which reduced the impact of thalidomide in
United States patients. Although thalidomide was never approved for sale
in the United States, millions of tablets had been distributed to
physicians during a clinical testing program. It was impossible to know
how many pregnant women had been given the drug to help alleviate
morning sickness or as a sedative.[24]
Im aware of at least one American child born of military parents in
Germany that had a "flipper" baby..and another one whose mother was
given the drug IN THE UNITED STATES by her doctor..as noted in the last
paragraph
<osugeo...@aol.com> wrote:
>Thalidomide
As for those that claim it was never used in the US...perhaps they
should read this...from the same wiki article
In the late 1950s and early 1960s, more than 10,000 children in 46
countries were born with deformities, such as phocomelia, as a
consequence of thalidomide use.[16] The Australian obstetrician William
McBride and the German pediatrician Widukind Lenz suspected a link
between birth defects and the drug, a theory Lenz proved in
1961.[17][18] McBride was later awarded a number of honours, including a
medal and prize money by the prestigious L'Institut de la Vie in
Paris.[19]
In the United Kingdom, the drug was licensed in 1958. Of the
approximately 2,000 babies born with defects, 466 survived.[20] The drug
was withdrawn in 1961. In 1968, after a long campaign by The Sunday
Times newspaper, a compensation settlement for the UK victims was
reached with Distillers Company (now part of Diageo).[21][22] This
compensation, which is distributed by the Thalidomide Trust in the UK,
was substantially increased by Diageo in 2005.[23] The UK Government
gave survivors a grant of £20 million, to be distributed through the
Thalidomide Trust, in December 2009.[2] In Germany approximately 2,500
thalidomide babies were born.[18]
1962: FDA pharmacologist Frances Oldham Kelsey receives an award from
President John F. Kennedy for blocking sale of thalidomide in the United
States.
In the United States, pharmacologist and M.D. Frances Oldham Kelsey
refused Food and Drug Administration (FDA) approval for an application
from the Richardson-Merrell company to market thalidomide, saying
further studies were needed, which reduced the impact of thalidomide in
United States patients. Although thalidomide was never approved for sale
in the United States, millions of tablets had been distributed to
physicians during a clinical testing program. It was impossible to know
how many pregnant women had been given the drug to help alleviate
morning sickness or as a sedative.[24]
Im aware of at least one American child born of military parents in
Germany that had a "flipper" baby..and another one whose mother was
given the drug IN THE UNITED STATES by her doctor..as noted in the last
paragraph
Gunner Asch
Jan 2, 2012, 7:37:35 AM1/2/12
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On Sun, 01 Jan 2012 17:05:55 -0800, Paul Drahn <pdr...@webformixair.com>
I measured the cap, after shorting it, it measured 9.25 ohm..and then
starting changing a bit. Which I assume means its charging
It starts up fine and runs for several moments..and then starts to slow
down..and down..and down..and then sits there and quivers
Im assuming the cap is leaking ?
starting changing a bit. Which I assume means its charging
It starts up fine and runs for several moments..and then starts to slow
down..and down..and down..and then sits there and quivers
Im assuming the cap is leaking ?
Shall not be infringed
Jan 2, 2012, 11:24:19 AM1/2/12
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On Jan 2, 12:11 am, Deucalion <some...@nowhere.net> wrote:
> On Sun, 01 Jan 2012 15:26:07 -0500, Colanth <cola...@pern.invalid>
> wrote:
>
> >On Sun, 01 Jan 2012 03:50:07 -0800, Gunner Asch <gunnera...@gmail.com>
> convinced that he ever served in Nam.
Some were there but never served. They spent their tour at midnight
chow, then sleeping in the back of the comm van they were supposed
pulling duty.
Ring a bell?
> On Sun, 01 Jan 2012 15:26:07 -0500, Colanth <cola...@pern.invalid>
> wrote:
>
> >On Sun, 01 Jan 2012 03:50:07 -0800, Gunner Asch <gunnera...@gmail.com>
> >wrote:
>
> >>Ok..the war is on.
>
> >>First blood or is it over when your heart stops beating?
>
> >It's already over - your head stopped a long time ago. Are you SURE
> >you came back from Nam?
>
> Some of us, who have read his drivel for over a decade, aren't
>
> >>Ok..the war is on.
>
> >>First blood or is it over when your heart stops beating?
>
> >It's already over - your head stopped a long time ago. Are you SURE
> >you came back from Nam?
>
> convinced that he ever served in Nam.
Some were there but never served. They spent their tour at midnight
chow, then sleeping in the back of the comm van they were supposed
pulling duty.
Ring a bell?
George Plimpton
Jan 2, 2012, 12:49:05 PM1/2/12
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On 1/1/2012 9:11 PM, Deucalion wrote:
convinced that he *NEVER* served there, in fact *NEVER* was in the
military at all.
> On Sun, 01 Jan 2012 15:26:07 -0500, Colanth<col...@pern.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 01 Jan 2012 03:50:07 -0800, Gunner Asch<gunne...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Ok..the war is on.
>>>
>>> First blood or is it over when your heart stops beating?
>>
>> It's already over - your head stopped a long time ago. Are you SURE
>> you came back from Nam?
>
> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 01 Jan 2012 03:50:07 -0800, Gunner Asch<gunne...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Ok..the war is on.
>>>
>>> First blood or is it over when your heart stops beating?
>>
>> It's already over - your head stopped a long time ago. Are you SURE
>> you came back from Nam?
>
> Some of us, who have read his drivel for over a decade, aren't
> convinced that he ever served in Nam.
It's not that I'm not convinced he ever served there; rather, I *am*
> convinced that he ever served in Nam.
convinced that he *NEVER* served there, in fact *NEVER* was in the
military at all.
Randal Scripter
Jan 2, 2012, 1:08:30 PM1/2/12
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On 1/2/2012 3:51 AM, Gunner Asch wrote:
> On Sun, 1 Jan 2012 22:36:23 -0800 (PST), osugeography
> <osugeo...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>> Thalidomide
>
>
> As for those that claim it was never used in the US...perhaps they
> should read this...from the same wiki article
> [...]
> On Sun, 1 Jan 2012 22:36:23 -0800 (PST), osugeography
> <osugeo...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>> Thalidomide
>
>
> As for those that claim it was never used in the US...perhaps they
> should read this...from the same wiki article
>
> Im aware of at least one American child born of military parents in
> Germany that had a "flipper" baby..and another one whose mother was
> given the drug IN THE UNITED STATES by her doctor..as noted in the last
> paragraph
The drug was never approved in the US for its originally intended use,
> Im aware of at least one American child born of military parents in
> Germany that had a "flipper" baby..and another one whose mother was
> given the drug IN THE UNITED STATES by her doctor..as noted in the last
> paragraph
gummer - as a sedative or as a morning sickness drug. Yes, some
American received the drug as part of clinical trials, and others
received it if they were in Europe where it was approved, but the drug
never was prescribed here because it never received approval. In fact,
gummer, PBS says there were only 17 Thalidomide babies born in the USA
(http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/health/july-dec98/thalidomide_8-4.html).
Just keep spinning and looking more stupid by the post, gummer.
Gunner Asch
Jan 2, 2012, 3:31:21 PM1/2/12
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born in the US who were flipper babies as well as in Europe.
That wasnt so hard now was it?
Oddly enough..I rather suspect it wasnt your intention to back up my
statement..but..you were stupid.
Thanks!!
Colanth
Jan 2, 2012, 4:08:15 PM1/2/12
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On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 00:11:49 -0500, Deucalion <som...@nowhere.net>
who had wet pants all the time he was there.
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"Don't pray in my school, and I won't think in your church" - unknown
wrote:
>On Sun, 01 Jan 2012 15:26:07 -0500, Colanth <col...@pern.invalid>
>wrote:
>
>On Sun, 01 Jan 2012 15:26:07 -0500, Colanth <col...@pern.invalid>
>wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 01 Jan 2012 03:50:07 -0800, Gunner Asch <gunne...@gmail.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>Ok..the war is on.
>>>
>>>First blood or is it over when your heart stops beating?
>>
>>It's already over - your head stopped a long time ago. Are you SURE
>>you came back from Nam?
>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>Ok..the war is on.
>>>
>>>First blood or is it over when your heart stops beating?
>>
>>It's already over - your head stopped a long time ago. Are you SURE
>>you came back from Nam?
>
>Some of us, who have read his drivel for over a decade, aren't
>convinced that he ever served in Nam.
I'm just playing the game. If he ever served, it was as a one-striper
>convinced that he ever served in Nam.
who had wet pants all the time he was there.
--
"Don't pray in my school, and I won't think in your church" - unknown
Colanth
Jan 2, 2012, 4:10:09 PM1/2/12
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Or were always somewhere else when there was anything to do.
I've heard them called "targets", and the speakers weren't referring
to AK-47 rounds.
--
"What a crowd - the Haves and the Have Mores. Some people call you the
Elite. I call you my base" - George Bush.
Randal Scripter
Jan 2, 2012, 4:15:07 PM1/2/12
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On 1/2/2012 1:08 PM, Colanth wrote:
> On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 00:11:49 -0500, Deucalion<som...@nowhere.net>
> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 01 Jan 2012 15:26:07 -0500, Colanth<col...@pern.invalid>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 01 Jan 2012 03:50:07 -0800, Gunner Asch<gunne...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Ok..the war is on.
>>>>
>>>> First blood or is it over when your heart stops beating?
>>>
>>> It's already over - your head stopped a long time ago. Are you SURE
>>> you came back from Nam?
>>
>> Some of us, who have read his drivel for over a decade, aren't
>> convinced that he ever served in Nam.
>
> I'm just playing the game. If he ever served, it was as a one-striper
> who had wet pants all the time he was there.
His entire yarn about having been in the military is wholly implausible.
> On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 00:11:49 -0500, Deucalion<som...@nowhere.net>
> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 01 Jan 2012 15:26:07 -0500, Colanth<col...@pern.invalid>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 01 Jan 2012 03:50:07 -0800, Gunner Asch<gunne...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Ok..the war is on.
>>>>
>>>> First blood or is it over when your heart stops beating?
>>>
>>> It's already over - your head stopped a long time ago. Are you SURE
>>> you came back from Nam?
>>
>> Some of us, who have read his drivel for over a decade, aren't
>> convinced that he ever served in Nam.
>
> I'm just playing the game. If he ever served, it was as a one-striper
> who had wet pants all the time he was there.
Implausible doesn't mean impossible, but the story is just far too
fanciful. I don't believe he ever was in the military.
Randal Scripter
Jan 2, 2012, 4:13:01 PM1/2/12
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On 1/2/2012 12:31 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:
> On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 10:08:30 -0800, Randal Scripter
> <kick.d...@SouthTeats.conn> wrote:
>
>> On 1/2/2012 3:51 AM, Gunner Asch wrote:
>>> On Sun, 1 Jan 2012 22:36:23 -0800 (PST), osugeography
>>> <osugeo...@aol.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thalidomide
>>>
>>>
>>> As for those that claim it was never used in the US...perhaps they
>>> should read this...from the same wiki article
>>> [...]
>>>
>>> Im aware of at least one American child born of military parents in
>>> Germany that had a "flipper" baby..and another one whose mother was
>>> given the drug IN THE UNITED STATES by her doctor..as noted in the last
>>> paragraph
>>
>> The drug was never approved in the US for its originally intended use,
>> gummer - as a sedative or as a morning sickness drug. Yes, some
>> American received the drug as part of clinical trials, and others
>> received it if they were in Europe where it was approved, but the drug
>> never was prescribed here because it never received approval. In fact,
>> gummer, PBS says there were only 17 Thalidomide babies born in the USA
>> (http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/health/july-dec98/thalidomide_8-4.html).
>>
>> Just keep spinning and looking more stupid by the post, gummer.
>
> Thank you for conforming
"Conforming" - ha ha ha ha ha!
> On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 10:08:30 -0800, Randal Scripter
> <kick.d...@SouthTeats.conn> wrote:
>
>> On 1/2/2012 3:51 AM, Gunner Asch wrote:
>>> On Sun, 1 Jan 2012 22:36:23 -0800 (PST), osugeography
>>> <osugeo...@aol.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thalidomide
>>>
>>>
>>> As for those that claim it was never used in the US...perhaps they
>>> should read this...from the same wiki article
>>> [...]
>>>
>>> Im aware of at least one American child born of military parents in
>>> Germany that had a "flipper" baby..and another one whose mother was
>>> given the drug IN THE UNITED STATES by her doctor..as noted in the last
>>> paragraph
>>
>> The drug was never approved in the US for its originally intended use,
>> gummer - as a sedative or as a morning sickness drug. Yes, some
>> American received the drug as part of clinical trials, and others
>> received it if they were in Europe where it was approved, but the drug
>> never was prescribed here because it never received approval. In fact,
>> gummer, PBS says there were only 17 Thalidomide babies born in the USA
>> (http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/health/july-dec98/thalidomide_8-4.html).
>>
>> Just keep spinning and looking more stupid by the post, gummer.
>
> Thank you for conforming
Nice try, blowjob.
Michael A. Terrell
Jan 2, 2012, 6:55:01 PM1/2/12
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Gunner Asch wrote:
>
> osugeography wrote:
>
> >Thalidomide
We can thank the Brits for damage caused the DES they developed:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diethylstilbestrol
--
You can't have a sense of humor, if you have no sense.
Shall not be infringed
Jan 2, 2012, 6:58:25 PM1/2/12
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duty.
He volunteered, then he became a pacifist at some later date.
Michael A. Terrell
Jan 2, 2012, 6:59:20 PM1/2/12
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Gunner Asch wrote:
>
> I measured the cap, after shorting it, it measured 9.25 ohm..and then
> starting changing a bit. Which I assume means its charging
>
> It starts up fine and runs for several moments..and then starts to slow
> down..and down..and down..and then sits there and quivers
>
> Im assuming the cap is leaking ?
fast. 9.25 ohms sounds like it's shorted, but not all the way to zero
ohms.
Shall not be infringed
Jan 2, 2012, 7:00:04 PM1/2/12
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On Jan 2, 4:15 pm, Randal Scripter <kick.dwee...@SouthTeats.conn>
wrote:
> > wrote:
>
> >> On Sun, 01 Jan 2012 15:26:07 -0500, Colanth<cola...@pern.invalid>
> >> wrote:
>
> >>> On Sun, 01 Jan 2012 03:50:07 -0800, Gunner Asch<gunnera...@gmail.com>
sleeping on duty.
wrote:
> On 1/2/2012 1:08 PM, Colanth wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 00:11:49 -0500, Deucalion<some...@nowhere.net>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > wrote:
>
> >> On Sun, 01 Jan 2012 15:26:07 -0500, Colanth<cola...@pern.invalid>
> >> wrote:
>
> >>> On Sun, 01 Jan 2012 03:50:07 -0800, Gunner Asch<gunnera...@gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
>
> >>>> Ok..the war is on.
>
> >>>> First blood or is it over when your heart stops beating?
>
> >>> It's already over - your head stopped a long time ago. Are you SURE
> >>> you came back from Nam?
>
> >> Some of us, who have read his drivel for over a decade, aren't
> >> convinced that he ever served in Nam.
>
> > I'm just playing the game. If he ever served, it was as a one-striper
> > who had wet pants all the time he was there.
>
> His entire yarn about having been in the military is wholly implausible.
> Implausible doesn't mean impossible, but the story is just far too
> fanciful. I don't believe he ever was in the military.
I believe Bob Brock when he admitted to eating midnight chow then
>
> >>>> Ok..the war is on.
>
> >>>> First blood or is it over when your heart stops beating?
>
> >>> It's already over - your head stopped a long time ago. Are you SURE
> >>> you came back from Nam?
>
> >> Some of us, who have read his drivel for over a decade, aren't
> >> convinced that he ever served in Nam.
>
> > I'm just playing the game. If he ever served, it was as a one-striper
> > who had wet pants all the time he was there.
>
> His entire yarn about having been in the military is wholly implausible.
> Implausible doesn't mean impossible, but the story is just far too
> fanciful. I don't believe he ever was in the military.
sleeping on duty.
Paul Duca (tomservo56954@comcast.net)
Jan 3, 2012, 12:16:50 AM1/3/12
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On Jan 2, 1:08 pm, Randal Scripter <kick.dwee...@SouthTeats.conn>
wrote:
There was a case where an American woman took thalidomide (her husband
brought it back from a trip to Europe) and went to court for the right
to terminate the pregnancy if it were deformed. She ended up going
overseas for the procedure--and the fetus was deformed.
Such things don't matter to God-freaks whose main resentment in a case
like this is the woman giving up all the pity status she'd get from
her congregation for having such a "special" child.
Paul
wrote:
> On 1/2/2012 3:51 AM, Gunner Asch wrote:
>
> > On Sun, 1 Jan 2012 22:36:23 -0800 (PST), osugeography
> > <osugeogra...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > On Sun, 1 Jan 2012 22:36:23 -0800 (PST), osugeography
brought it back from a trip to Europe) and went to court for the right
to terminate the pregnancy if it were deformed. She ended up going
overseas for the procedure--and the fetus was deformed.
Such things don't matter to God-freaks whose main resentment in a case
like this is the woman giving up all the pity status she'd get from
her congregation for having such a "special" child.
Paul
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Gunner Asch
Jan 3, 2012, 4:36:28 AM1/3/12
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On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 13:13:01 -0800, Randal Scripter
Spelling flames..the last gasp of the terminally buffoonish.
Ever look up the definiton of Buffoon btw? You really...really need to.
Its actually quite discriptive..and most applicable to you and yours.
<VBG>
Ever look up the definiton of Buffoon btw? You really...really need to.
Its actually quite discriptive..and most applicable to you and yours.
<VBG>
Gunner Asch
Jan 3, 2012, 4:37:16 AM1/3/12
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Tag..your it.
Laugh laugh laugh!!
Gunner Asch
Jan 3, 2012, 5:19:26 AM1/3/12
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On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 18:59:20 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell"
<mike.t...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>Gunner Asch wrote:
>>
>> I measured the cap, after shorting it, it measured 9.25 ohm..and then
>> starting changing a bit. Which I assume means its charging
>>
>> It starts up fine and runs for several moments..and then starts to slow
>> down..and down..and down..and then sits there and quivers
>>
>> Im assuming the cap is leaking ?
>
>
> It's defective. A cap that small should rise to 'infinity' very
>fast. 9.25 ohms sounds like it's shorted, but not all the way to zero
>ohms.
Thanks Michael. Ill pick up another one tommorow. I sold my Lincoln
<mike.t...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>Gunner Asch wrote:
>>
>> I measured the cap, after shorting it, it measured 9.25 ohm..and then
>> starting changing a bit. Which I assume means its charging
>>
>> It starts up fine and runs for several moments..and then starts to slow
>> down..and down..and down..and then sits there and quivers
>>
>> Im assuming the cap is leaking ?
>
>
> It's defective. A cap that small should rise to 'infinity' very
>fast. 9.25 ohms sounds like it's shorted, but not all the way to zero
>ohms.
Ranger 9 today, so will have a couple dollars to pay bills and pick up
some paint and cap and other stuff tommorow
Jack Skolasky
Jan 3, 2012, 10:13:55 AM1/3/12
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On 1/3/2012 1:37 AM, Gunner Asch wrote:
> On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 13:15:07 -0800, Randal Scripter
> <kick.d...@SouthTeats.conn> wrote:
>
>> On 1/2/2012 1:08 PM, Colanth wrote:
>>> On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 00:11:49 -0500, Deucalion<som...@nowhere.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sun, 01 Jan 2012 15:26:07 -0500, Colanth<col...@pern.invalid>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, 01 Jan 2012 03:50:07 -0800, Gunner Asch<gunne...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Ok..the war is on.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> First blood or is it over when your heart stops beating?
>>>>>
>>>>> It's already over - your head stopped a long time ago. Are you SURE
>>>>> you came back from Nam?
>>>>
>>>> Some of us, who have read his drivel for over a decade, aren't
>>>> convinced that he ever served in Nam.
>>>
>>> I'm just playing the game. If he ever served, it was as a one-striper
>>> who had wet pants all the time he was there.
>>
>> His entire yarn about having been in the military is wholly implausible.
>> Implausible doesn't mean impossible, but the story is just far too
>> fanciful. I don't believe he ever was in the military.
>
> I dont believe you are straight, normal and not a child molester.
No proof you ever served in the military, and your yarn is utterly
> On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 13:15:07 -0800, Randal Scripter
> <kick.d...@SouthTeats.conn> wrote:
>
>> On 1/2/2012 1:08 PM, Colanth wrote:
>>> On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 00:11:49 -0500, Deucalion<som...@nowhere.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sun, 01 Jan 2012 15:26:07 -0500, Colanth<col...@pern.invalid>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, 01 Jan 2012 03:50:07 -0800, Gunner Asch<gunne...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Ok..the war is on.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> First blood or is it over when your heart stops beating?
>>>>>
>>>>> It's already over - your head stopped a long time ago. Are you SURE
>>>>> you came back from Nam?
>>>>
>>>> Some of us, who have read his drivel for over a decade, aren't
>>>> convinced that he ever served in Nam.
>>>
>>> I'm just playing the game. If he ever served, it was as a one-striper
>>> who had wet pants all the time he was there.
>>
>> His entire yarn about having been in the military is wholly implausible.
>> Implausible doesn't mean impossible, but the story is just far too
>> fanciful. I don't believe he ever was in the military.
>
> I dont believe you are straight, normal and not a child molester.
implausible.
Verdict: you never were in the military.
Jack Skolasky
Jan 3, 2012, 10:14:32 AM1/3/12
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Colanth
Jan 3, 2012, 10:59:15 AM1/3/12
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your belly's full, especially at night. The fact that you're putting
a lot of lives (including your own) in jeopardy just doesn't occur to
some people.
--
"I heard somebody say, 'Where's Nelson Mandela?' Well, Mandela's dead.
Because Saddam killed all the Mandelas." - George W. Bush
Colanth
Jan 3, 2012, 10:57:25 AM1/3/12
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>I don't believe he ever was in the military.
reserve meetings.
Message has been deleted
Randal Scripter
Jan 3, 2012, 11:57:30 AM1/3/12
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On 1/3/2012 7:57 AM, Colanth wrote:
> On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 13:15:07 -0800, Randal Scripter
> <kick.d...@SouthTeats.conn> wrote:
>
>> On 1/2/2012 1:08 PM, Colanth wrote:
>>> On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 00:11:49 -0500, Deucalion<som...@nowhere.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sun, 01 Jan 2012 15:26:07 -0500, Colanth<col...@pern.invalid>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, 01 Jan 2012 03:50:07 -0800, Gunner Asch<gunne...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Ok..the war is on.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> First blood or is it over when your heart stops beating?
>>>>>
>>>>> It's already over - your head stopped a long time ago. Are you SURE
>>>>> you came back from Nam?
>>>>
>>>> Some of us, who have read his drivel for over a decade, aren't
>>>> convinced that he ever served in Nam.
>>>
>>> I'm just playing the game. If he ever served, it was as a one-striper
>>> who had wet pants all the time he was there.
>>
>> His entire yarn about having been in the military is wholly implausible.
>> Implausible doesn't mean impossible, but the story is just far too
>> fanciful.
>
> That's called 'tells'. There are too many of them in his stories.
I don't even play poker, and yet I know about "tells". Yep - his story
> On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 13:15:07 -0800, Randal Scripter
> <kick.d...@SouthTeats.conn> wrote:
>
>> On 1/2/2012 1:08 PM, Colanth wrote:
>>> On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 00:11:49 -0500, Deucalion<som...@nowhere.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sun, 01 Jan 2012 15:26:07 -0500, Colanth<col...@pern.invalid>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, 01 Jan 2012 03:50:07 -0800, Gunner Asch<gunne...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Ok..the war is on.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> First blood or is it over when your heart stops beating?
>>>>>
>>>>> It's already over - your head stopped a long time ago. Are you SURE
>>>>> you came back from Nam?
>>>>
>>>> Some of us, who have read his drivel for over a decade, aren't
>>>> convinced that he ever served in Nam.
>>>
>>> I'm just playing the game. If he ever served, it was as a one-striper
>>> who had wet pants all the time he was there.
>>
>> His entire yarn about having been in the military is wholly implausible.
>> Implausible doesn't mean impossible, but the story is just far too
>> fanciful.
>
> That's called 'tells'. There are too many of them in his stories.
is overflowing with them.
>
>> I don't believe he ever was in the military.
>
> He may have been, but he may never have gotten out of stateside
> reserve meetings.
implausible to have happened the way he describes it, and I don't
believe him. I can't prove he wasn't, obviously, but I don't believe he
was, and he can't supply a shred of evidence that he was. Until I see
evidence, I won't believe he ever was in the military.
Edward A. Falk
Jan 3, 2012, 1:34:32 PM1/3/12
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In article <KbednZRr59FB6GDT...@giganews.com>,
>
>'nuff said
Uncalled-for.
--
-Ed Falk, fa...@despams.r.us.com
http://thespamdiaries.blogspot.com/
Delvin Benet <DB@nbc.n�t> wrote:
>On 12/30/2011 12:07 AM, Gunner Asch wrote:
>> My double wide ...
>On 12/30/2011 12:07 AM, Gunner Asch wrote:
>
>'nuff said
Uncalled-for.
--
-Ed Falk, fa...@despams.r.us.com
http://thespamdiaries.blogspot.com/
Edward A. Falk
Jan 3, 2012, 1:36:29 PM1/3/12
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In article <bdb51a5b-7fc2-4874...@m7g2000vbc.googlegroups.com>,
dca...@krl.org <dca...@krl.org> wrote:
>
>
>It sounds to me as if the bearings have worn and when the power is on
>the rotor gets attracted to the case and rubs. Without the power on
>it spins freely.
I was thinking burned winding, in which case the motor needs to
be rebuilt.
(My first thought was burned starter winding, but do blower motors
even have those? Anyway, I would expect it would be possible to
hand-start a motor in that state.)
dca...@krl.org <dca...@krl.org> wrote:
>On Dec 30, 3:07�am, Gunner Asch <gunnera...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> That started the motor running �properly again...but tonight it started
>> humming and not turning. I try to spin the blower by hand with it in Run
>> mode..and its �being held in place electrically. ...
>
>> That started the motor running �properly again...but tonight it started
>> humming and not turning. I try to spin the blower by hand with it in Run
>
>
>It sounds to me as if the bearings have worn and when the power is on
>the rotor gets attracted to the case and rubs. Without the power on
>it spins freely.
I was thinking burned winding, in which case the motor needs to
be rebuilt.
(My first thought was burned starter winding, but do blower motors
even have those? Anyway, I would expect it would be possible to
hand-start a motor in that state.)
Chrissy Degeer
Jan 3, 2012, 2:15:04 PM1/3/12
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> Delvin Benet<DB@nbc.nýt> wrote:
>> On 12/30/2011 12:07 AM, Gunner Asch wrote:
>>> My double wide ...
>>
>> 'nuff said
>
> Uncalled-for.
It was eminently appropriate.
>> On 12/30/2011 12:07 AM, Gunner Asch wrote:
>>> My double wide ...
>>
>> 'nuff said
>
> Uncalled-for.
Paul Drahn
Jan 3, 2012, 3:33:16 PM1/3/12
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capacitor provides starting and running torque. Many have up to 4 other
windings that allow for different speeds. My blower has 4, but only two
are connected.
Paul
Michael A. Terrell
Jan 3, 2012, 10:20:16 PM1/3/12
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Gunner Asch wrote:
>
> On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 18:59:20 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell"
> <mike.t...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> >
> >Gunner Asch wrote:
> >>
> >> I measured the cap, after shorting it, it measured 9.25 ohm..and then
> >> starting changing a bit. Which I assume means its charging
> >>
> >> It starts up fine and runs for several moments..and then starts to slow
> >> down..and down..and down..and then sits there and quivers
> >>
> >> Im assuming the cap is leaking ?
> >
> >
> > It's defective. A cap that small should rise to 'infinity' very
> >fast. 9.25 ohms sounds like it's shorted, but not all the way to zero
> >ohms.
>
> Thanks Michael. Ill pick up another one tommorow. I sold my Lincoln
> Ranger 9 today, so will have a couple dollars to pay bills and pick up
> some paint and cap and other stuff tommorow
furnace I'm about to scrap. It would cost more than it's worth to ship
it to you. The firebox is cracked and badly rusted from disuse. No
parts are available for it, so I've used electric heaters on the rare
cold days. I looked at a replacement propane furnace. It was $1400, so
i can run space heaters when I need them for the rest of my life and
still be ahead. It's supposed to drop to 22 F in N Central Florida
tonight, so I have one one right now, running at 600W and it's 73 in
here. It was 64 when I turned it on four hours ago. :)
Gunner Asch
Jan 3, 2012, 11:24:43 PM1/3/12
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On Tue, 03 Jan 2012 08:57:30 -0800, Randal Scripter
<VBG>
Randal Scripter
Jan 4, 2012, 1:21:18 AM1/4/12
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to Vietnam, that you received a Purple Heart...
Waiting, and waiting, and waiting...
PrecisionmachinisT
Jan 4, 2012, 1:27:53 AM1/4/12
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"Randal Scripter" <kick.d...@SouthTeats.conn> wrote in message
news:jtidnUOpRJd9cp7S...@giganews.com...
> On 1/3/2012 8:24 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:
<snip>
>
> Still waiting for evidence that you were in the military, that you went to
> Vietnam, that you received a Purple Heart...
>
> Waiting, and waiting, and waiting...
DanielSan
Jan 4, 2012, 3:58:11 AM1/4/12
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On 1/4/2012 12:56 AM, Gunner Asch wrote:
> On Tue, 03 Jan 2012 22:21:18 -0800, Randal Scripter
> Still waiting for those pesky proofs there is no god(s)
No proof is necessary nor required. You should know this by now.
> On Tue, 03 Jan 2012 22:21:18 -0800, Randal Scripter
No proof is necessary nor required. You should know this by now.
Gunner Asch
Jan 4, 2012, 3:56:18 AM1/4/12
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On Tue, 03 Jan 2012 22:21:18 -0800, Randal Scripter
Still waiting for those pesky proofs there is no god(s)
Randal Scripter
Jan 4, 2012, 4:06:42 AM1/4/12
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ever were in the military.
Get to it, boy.
Gunner Asch
Jan 4, 2012, 4:20:51 AM1/4/12
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On Wed, 04 Jan 2012 00:58:11 -0800, DanielSan <daniel...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Your claim..your proof is necessary. You should know this by now.
Your fucktardedness is noted
Next?
wrote:
Your fucktardedness is noted
Next?
Gunner Asch
Jan 4, 2012, 4:21:24 AM1/4/12
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On Wed, 04 Jan 2012 01:06:42 -0800, Randal Scripter
You first <VBG>
get to it, boi
get to it, boi
DanielSan
Jan 4, 2012, 4:22:27 AM1/4/12
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evidence to claim that there's no undetectable dragons living in garages.
Gunner Asch
Jan 4, 2012, 5:35:47 AM1/4/12
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On Wed, 04 Jan 2012 01:22:27 -0800, DanielSan <daniel...@gmail.com>
Your attempt to be cute isnt working, nor is your fuctardedness.
Please try again.
Oh..and you really should quit molesting the neighbor kids.
Please try again.
Oh..and you really should quit molesting the neighbor kids.
DanielSan
Jan 4, 2012, 5:36:32 AM1/4/12
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It's the sound of your argument imploding.
Too bad.
Nicholas
Jan 4, 2012, 6:24:32 AM1/4/12
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On Wed, 04 Jan 2012 02:35:47 -0800, Gunner Asch <gunne...@gmail.com>
Answer the fucking question and stop playing games.
Were you Ever in the Military?
Yes
No
What was your Rank?
When did you serve?
What Unit were you assigned to?
Are there any surviving members of that Unit that can vouch for you?
Who and where are they?
How can they be contacted?
Did you receive any medals?
When and what for?
Post photos of YOU with those medals as proof.
Otherwise...you're a POSER of the worst kind, and need to get your ass
kicked by REAL Veterans all the way from CA to the East Coast.
Lg
m.s.
Were you Ever in the Military?
Yes
No
What was your Rank?
When did you serve?
What Unit were you assigned to?
Are there any surviving members of that Unit that can vouch for you?
Who and where are they?
How can they be contacted?
Did you receive any medals?
When and what for?
Post photos of YOU with those medals as proof.
Otherwise...you're a POSER of the worst kind, and need to get your ass
kicked by REAL Veterans all the way from CA to the East Coast.
Lg
m.s.
Gunner Asch
Jan 4, 2012, 6:49:57 AM1/4/12
to
Now about those cites that there are no god(s)?
Gunner Asch
Jan 4, 2012, 6:48:38 AM1/4/12
to
On Wed, 04 Jan 2012 02:36:32 -0800, DanielSan <daniel...@gmail.com>
evidence to claim that you are a child molester.
Nicholas
Jan 4, 2012, 8:01:04 AM1/4/12
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On Wed, 04 Jan 2012 03:49:57 -0800, Gunner Asch <gunne...@gmail.com>
Name
Rank
and Serial Number, POSER
Rank
and Serial Number, POSER
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