Dalton Lathes

[Dennis Turk]

To all Dalton owners and people interested in Dalton equipment. My
name is Dennis Turk and I own seven Dalton lathes, one lot 3 and six
lot 4 machines. The range of age is before 1914 and to after 1925. I
do not use the lathes as they are for restoration and display.

There is a group of Dalton owners that share pictures information and
in some cases replacement parts. There is I believe 13 people in this
group. We are known as just the Dalton Gang.:-) Two of the people
live in England, as it seems Daltons ended up over there also.

There are no multi function machines in the group. The group is
comprised of one lot 2 lathe two lot 3 lathes sixteen lot 4 lathes and
one lot 6. The lot number is just in front of your serial number and
denotes the model. B-4 or B-6.

Not all lathes especially the early ones have model tags on them only
a lot #. We keep a record of all Lot and Serial numbers and this way
we can gestimate the approximate age or year of build for the lathes.

In this group there is also one very original peddle or foot powered
lathe that has the hand lever on the tailstock. Really interesting
machine. Devil to run though.

I would be interested in communicating with anyone that owns a Dalton
lathe for the purpose of tracking serial numbers and helping others
with problems with their lathes. There are a very small number of
replacement parts available. These are used but serviceable.

In some of the postings there was a question as to the age of Dalton
tool works. We know that Herbert Dalton started the company some time
before 1912 and it failed in the stock market crash of 1929. In 1930
Elecrolux purchased the property and built vacuum cleaners there

Thanks and I hope to hear form all Dalton owners.

[Ed Rannou]

I have a dalton lathe that needs professional attention. It is missing a
tooth from the back gear and the large gear on the spindle. I do not
need that reduction gearing to function. I do need help with the
selection of a new chuck. I have quite a few spare parts I don't need
for my use. I will only be turning wood and plastic on it via direct
drive from the leather belt. I don't see the model or serial # info you
are looking for. I may part this out or sell whole if I can't use it for

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Ed Rannou

[Bunny]

Hi, I have a Dalton Lathe and would be interested if you have any photos
of a
lot 4 lathe. I am renovating the lathe and would appreciate finding out
if
any parts are missing, and the arrangement options of the cogs etc.

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Bunny

[steve...@gmail.com]

On Friday, December 26, 2003 11:31:32 AM UTC-5, Dennis Turk wrote:
> To all Dalton owners and people interested in Dalton equipment. My name is Dennis Turk and I own seven Dalton lathes, one lot 3 and six lot 4 machines. The range of age is before 1914 and to after 1925. I do not use the lathes as they are for restoration and display.There is a group of Dalton owners that share pictures information and in some cases replacement parts. There is I believe 13 people in this group. We are known as just the Dalton Gang.:-) Two of the people live in England, as it seems Daltons ended up over there also.There are no multi function machines in the group. The group is comprised of one lot 2 lathe two lot 3 lathes sixteen lot 4 lathes and one lot 6. The lot number is just in front of your serial number and denotes the model. B-4 or B-6.Not all lathes especially the early ones have model tags on them only a lot #. We keep a record of all Lot and Serial numbers and this way we can gestimate the approximate age or year of build for the lathes.In this group there is also one very original peddle or foot powered lathe that has the hand lever on the tailstock. Really interesting machine. Devil to run though.I would be interested in communicating with anyone that owns a Dalton lathe for the purpose of tracking serial numbers and helping others with problems with their lathes. There are a very small number of replacement parts available. These are used but serviceable.In some of the postings there was a question as to the age of Dalton tool works. We know that Herbert Dalton started the company some time before 1912 and it failed in the stock market crash of 1929. In 1930 Elecrolux purchased the property and built vacuum cleaners thereThanks and I hope to hear form all Dalton owners.

Hi Dennis
Need your email steve from florida a friend of mine Milton Burnett found a dalton lathe you may be interested in. His contact info is Sup...@homesc.com
Steve from Florida

[mpl...@gmail.com]

On Friday, December 26, 2003 11:31:32 AM UTC-5, Dennis Turk wrote:

> To all Dalton owners and people interested in Dalton equipment. My name is Dennis Turk and I own seven Dalton lathes, one lot 3 and six lot 4 machines. The range of age is before 1914 and to after 1925. I do not use the lathes as they are for restoration and display.There is a group of Dalton owners that share pictures information and in some cases replacement parts. There is I believe 13 people in this group. We are known as just the Dalton Gang.:-) Two of the people live in England, as it seems Daltons ended up over there also.There are no multi function machines in the group. The group is comprised of one lot 2 lathe two lot 3 lathes sixteen lot 4 lathes and one lot 6. The lot number is just in front of your serial number and denotes the model. B-4 or B-6.Not all lathes especially the early ones have model tags on them only a lot #. We keep a record of all Lot and Serial numbers and this way we can gestimate the approximate age or year of build for the lathes.In this group there is also one very original peddle or foot powered lathe that has the hand lever on the tailstock. Really interesting machine. Devil to run though.I would be interested in communicating with anyone that owns a Dalton lathe for the purpose of tracking serial numbers and helping others with problems with their lathes. There are a very small number of replacement parts available. These are used but serviceable.In some of the postings there was a question as to the age of Dalton tool works. We know that Herbert Dalton started the company some time before 1912 and it failed in the stock market crash of 1929. In 1930 Elecrolux purchased the property and built vacuum cleaners thereThanks and I hope to hear form all Dalton owners.

Hello, I just purchased a Dalton lathe, but don't know what model it is. Can I post a photo somewhere? Thanks.

[James Waldby]

On Sat, 14 Dec 2013 15:14:09 -0800, mplieb1 wrote:
> On Friday, December 26, 2003 11:31:32 AM UTC-5, Dennis Turk wrote:
>> To all Dalton owners and people interested in Dalton equipment.

[snip Dennis Turk 2003 post re Dalton lathe S/N's etc]

> Hello, I just purchased a Dalton lathe, but don't know what model
> it is. Can I post a photo somewhere? Thanks.

The metalworking dropbox accepts photos emailed to it. See
instructions at <http://www.mwdropbox.com/dropbox.html> and see
uploaded files at <http://www.mwdropbox.com/dropbox/>. If you
upload some pictures, wait and get the dropbox's reply that tells
you the picture URL's before announcing the upload, so you can
include them in future posts..

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[memor...@gmail.com]

On Friday, December 26, 2003 11:31:32 AM UTC-5, Dennis Turk wrote:

dennisyesterday sunday 2/16/2014
i bought a dalton lot 4 lathe. says lot 4 on end of bed left on the right says #4065. on the gear cover says model b. change gears are held on with pins... the lathe is nice and tight i have it reassembled (h it had to carry it down the steps it is covered with saw dust , it looks cared for and i will clean it off ,oil it and run it later to day..
tony z

[zee...@gmail.com]

Hi all,
just purchased a good looking Dalton Six, Lot4 # 2304. Any idea what year it was manufactured?
Thanks.
Vadim
NYC

[drpott...@gmail.com]

I recently obtained a Dalton lathe. It is in realitive excelent condition. I am trying to identify it as to the age and model. It apears to be a 3 1/2" by about 11"to 12" center to center bed. It looks very much like the 1918 B2 from California that I have seen on the web. On the gear change cover it list the type as Type "B" and made in New York. There is no identifing name on the side of the Bed, The both feet have Dalton made in New York cast into them also in the carage front. there is a small name plate on the front side of the gear cover about 2" by 2" with what apears to be paten information on it it is very hard to read cant tell if it has a serial no. As I said before the machine is in excelent condition and apears to be all original. I know where it has bee for the past 20 or so years. It was used by a friend of mine for a few years prior to that. Phil, Vicksburg MS.

[drpott...@gmail.com]

> i bought a dalton lot 4 lathe. says lot 4 on end of bed left on the right says #4065. on the gear cover says model b. change gears are held on with pins... the lathe is nice and tight i have it reassembled (h it had to carry it down the steps it is covered with saw dust , it looks cared for and i will clean it off ,oil it and run it later to day..
> tony z

I also just obtained a Dalton lathe, lot 4 #4004 built not too long before your #4065 I think. Philip

[stephenj...@gmail.com]

I have a Dalton Six B4, I am looking for documentation, Manual and a picture(s) of a complete original lathe.
I am trying to figure out if it is worth it to restore to an original condition or modify it to a modern power plant condition, using a dirrect dc drive w/ a riding lawn mower transmission.
I have other working lathes.
Any ignorance anyone wishes to cure please act.

[glenn.b...@gmail.com]

So is this group inactive?? There appear to be no replies from anyone in the group to new members? I have a dalton lot 5 and am looking for some tooling.

Thanks

[Jim Wilkins]

<glenn.b...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:722c4932-22c4-45f5...@googlegroups.com...

Which "this" group, r.c.m. or the Yahoo one? Several of us in r.c.m.
pointed to the Yahoo group and lathes.co.uk.

My Usenet server has been responding slowly and erratically.

-jsw

[Bob Engelhardt]

On 3/17/2015 12:24 PM, glenn.b...@gmail.com wrote:
> So is this group inactive?? There appear to be no replies from anyone in the group to new members? I have a dalton lot 5 and am looking for some tooling.

Dalton is not a common lathe, to my knowledge, and I suspect that there
is just not anyone here (RCM) that has anything to offer.

A search of RCM in Google Groups for "Dalton lathe" returns 59 hits,
most more than 10 years old. Out of 100's of 1000's of RCM posts.

Bob

[DoN. Nichols]

On 2015-03-17, glenn.b...@gmail.com <glenn.b...@gmail.com> wrote:

> So is this group inactive?? There appear to be no replies from anyone
> in the group to new members?

You are apparently reading this in googlegroups, but is is
really a reflection of the usenet newsgroup rec.crafts.metalworking, and
certainly the main users in usenet have no way of knowing about "new
members". I don't know whether the googlegroups members have such a
way, and whether it works only on the groups which are not mirrors of
usenet newsgroups.

> I have a dalton lot 5 and am looking for
> some tooling.

I can be of no help there.

Good Luck,
DoN.

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[gull...@gmail.com]

Hello Dennis, today I bought a lathe that I believe you looked at. It was in the corner at the cabin Fever Expo. I understand you looked it over. I intend to clean it up and display it. What can you tell me? Thanks Peter. Bmwm...@hotmail.com

[miller....@gmail.com]

Hello,
I have a dalton Lot 4 Type"B" #4336 Lathe and I am trying to get some information on it. please respond. Missing auto feed gear i believe.

[nangi...@googlemail.com]

Hi all. Mark here in the UK. I recently bought a Dalton Lot 4 # 747 (cool #!). Does anyone know where to get further information on the lathe. I'd love to be able to use it to make the missing items from the changeover gear set. It's my first lathe. Am I aiming too high? Kind regards...

[John B.]

On Fri, 12 Jun 2015 18:28:41 -0700 (PDT), nangi...@googlemail.com
wrote:

>Hi all. Mark here in the UK. I recently bought a Dalton Lot 4 # 747 (cool #!). Does anyone know where to get further information on the lathe. I'd love to be able to use it to make the missing items from the changeover gear set. It's my first lathe. Am I aiming too high? Kind regards...

There used to be a yahoo? group for Dalton lathes -
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/daltonlathes/conversations/topics/866
And there was a discussion regarding "change Gears".
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cheers,

John B.

[geoffjm.de...@gmail.com]

On Fri, 12 Jun 2015 18:28:41 -0700 (PDT), nangi...@googlemail.com
wrote:

>Hi all. Mark here in the UK. I recently bought a Dalton Lot 4 # 747 (cool #!). Does anyone know where to get further information on the lathe. I'd love to be able to use it to make the missing items from the changeover gear set. It's my first lathe. Am I aiming too high? Kind regards...

Have you tried Tony' lathe site (www.lathes.co.uk) for information.
G

[mtzr...@yahoo.com]

Dennis are you still monitoring this post? I just picked a B4 #2383 that is very dirty but looks functional with exception to motor and associated drive bits. I'm looking for guidance in that area.

[hdobr...@gmail.com]

I have had a lathe I found in a scrap yard in Seymour Texas for about 12 years.
It has a broken base and was in need of tepair. I disassembled it and took inventory of what it needed. Cleaned all the parts and put it in the attic.
I just pulled it down to go over again and was trying to find another base.
It appears to be one of the most rare models of the Dalton line.
It is a Lot-2-No 19.
I was planning on using it to neck turn rifle brass. I am using my Summit lathe for this and was hoping to find a more size appropriate lathe for it.
It's a neat looking little unit.
Just seems to be very very rare and it looks like I should approach with caution.

[John B.]

You may know this but there is a Dalton Lathe group at
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/daltonlathes/info
It is a restricted group that seems fairly active with 33 messages in
the past week.
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cheers,

John B.

[glenaar...@gmail.com]

I have a Dalton Lot 6 s/n 131. I am starting to it get operational again after a couple decades of storage.

[wayne...@gmail.com]

I have lot 4 number 2087 in great condition.

[pilg...@gmail.com]

Hello. I just found your post. As of tomorrow I will be taking possession of a Dalton T-L with a 1924 date and a whole bunch of extras including live and dead centers, 3 and 4 jaw chuck, some change gears and in need of re-assembly (its in pieces), a new drive belt, and about a month or two of elbow grease to remove rust and re-paint. I am a Machinist virgin having only played so far with a Grizzly micro-lathe which has gotten me hooked (I have found so far anyone who owns a lathe seems to have 2 or 3 or 4 or... I know... its a disease) I ordered what literature was available from that UK fellow so we will see if sales brochures are enough info to rebuild this beast. I may be back to ask some (I am sure really really dumb) questions.

[jordie field]

replying to Dennis Turk, jordie field wrote:
hello: I just picked up a Dalton 4 lathe that is complete. Most interesting
is a very small rectangular thread counter. Was wondering if anyone has
sienna like it? I have tried to email Mr. Turk recently and his mail box is
full. would love to contact anyone who would like to talk on the phone as I
have many questions and find typing to clumsy. Hello...is their anyone out
there. Also my Dalton has the motor mounted above the leather step pulleys.
Part of the set looks factory, other part does not. I can load pictures, I
just want to do it at the best location. My e-mail is jordie....@gmail.com

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[bvsj...@gmail.com]

[r.za...@web.de]

Hi Dennis,

since some Days i own a MetalLathe , maybe a Dalton Lot 2-
Unfortunetly i find no SerialNumber or other things for a Identifikation.

Some Pictures are here:

http://www.chaski.org/homemachinist/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=104833

It would help, if you can help.

If it is a Dalton Lot2, you know one more in the World...

You Re-Build a very nice Champions Blower Forge 9L

Regards from Germany,

Rainer

[Rainer]

replying to Dennis Turk, Rainer wrote:
Hi Dennis, since One Week I own a Dalton Metal Lathe. It is a Lot 2, NO 477. A
Picture Can Seen unser
Http://chaski.org/homemachinist unser the Lathe-Topic. Eben there are some
more Information about the lot2-machines, I'm Interesse on them. Regards from
Germany, Rainer

[arrmo...@gmail.com]

Dennis,

I've spoken with you a few years back about my lathe, I have a decent restoration thread going on now here:

http://www.hobby-machinist.com/threads/dalton-b4-restoration.34943/

I'm still interested in a threading dial if there is ever another batch run :)

Rainer,

Guten morgen! Euer Drehbank is sehr nett! Da ist ein webseite von England du soll sehen. ummm...Hier: http://www.lathes.co.uk/dalton/page2.html. Ich kenne mein Deutch is besten nicht, aber woll ich zu helfen mit euer Dalton, oder englisch wann ich kan :).

[TLouisJ]

replying to Dennis Turk, TLouisJ wrote:
Hi, I just received a Dalton Six lathe. The Patent tag ends in 1922 and the
tags all have New York so I think it was built between 1922-1925. ?? It
looks like an 8" x 16" so it's not very long. There are no model numbers or
other ID tags. Can you tell me what it is?
https://www.polytechforum.com/img/5b

[Ron Clark]

replying to Dennis Turk, Ron Clark wrote:
I just bought a dalton 7" lathe im not certain of the lot #. The forward /
reverse planetary is broke. Im looking fir a used one. If u could help. Thank
u.

[Jordief123]

replying to Dennis Turk, Jordief123 wrote:
Hello: thank you for getting back! I inquired about your group over a year
ago. I posted my lathe info and pictures on the OWWM site: dalton lathe and
jordie field. It be would wonderful if you could look at it and let me know
what you think. All the best ! And thank you. Jordie field

[matt...@rocketmail.com]

Hello,

My name is Matt and I live in Illinois. I have recently come across an opportunity to obtain a “Dalton Six” B-4 Lathe. It is in working condition and seems like a pretty sturdy lil Lathe and perfect for my little garage. The guy wants $215.00 for it. Is that a fair price considering it is so hard to get replacement parts?

[goodsoldi...@google.com]

On Tue, 12 Dec 2017 16:59:52 -0800 (PST), matt...@rocketmail.com
wrote:

>Hello,
>
>My name is Matt and I live in Illinois. I have recently come across an opportunity to obtain a “Dalton Six” B-4 Lathe. It is in working condition and seems like a pretty sturdy lil Lathe and perfect for my little garage. The guy wants $215.00 for it. Is that a fair price considering it is so hard to get replacement parts?

The real value of these "Garage Lathes" is quite often determined by
the attachments and accessories that come with it. 3 jaw chuck? 4
jawed chuck? Taper turning attachment? Tool holders? Boring bar
holder? Tail stock drill chuck? Tool bits (to fit)? A boring bar or
maybe two? The list goes on and on...
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Cheers,

Schweik

[Jon Anderson]

Price doesn't sound too bad even for a fairly stripped machine, so long
as it's in good condition. Check ways front ways near headstock for
wear. At minimum, you'll want a 3 jaw, 4 jaw, faceplate, drill chuck,
lantern tool post, and a live center to do much. With that, you could
make a lot of accessories. If you plan to do any threading, you'll want
a set of change gears. If not, you could get by with putting a variable
speed DC motor on the far end of the lead screw. I modified a friend's
Craftsman thus. If it's missing most of the above, be aware that without
some serious bargain hunting, they'll likely cost at least double the
price of the lathe.

Jon

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[Colin Campbell]

replying to Dennis Turk, Colin Campbell wrote:
I have just purchased a Dalton 6 lathe. I need to replace one of the gears
in the gear train, do you know the specificactions for these gears?

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[Gunner Asch]

On Wed, 27 Dec 2017 03:18:03 GMT, Colin Campbell
<0f8503901d844703ee...@example.com> wrote:

>replying to Dennis Turk, Colin Campbell wrote:
>I have just purchased a Dalton 6 lathe. I need to replace one of the gears
>in the gear train, do you know the specificactions for these gears?

Which gear?

[Rex]

14 year old zombie thread!


I hope alla y’all realize Dennis wants you to join the Dalton Yahoo group

[john333]

replying to Dennis Turk, john333 wrote:
Hello, I just picked up a 1922 lot 4 dalton, how do you get all the sludge
and rust removed ? i hope this gets out there as i am new to metal working
Thanks..

[Clare Snyder]

On Sun, 31 Dec 2017 14:18:04 GMT, john333
<0f8503901d844703ee...@example.com> wrote:

>replying to Dennis Turk, john333 wrote:
>Hello, I just picked up a 1922 lot 4 dalton, how do you get all the sludge
>and rust removed ? i hope this gets out there as i am new to metal working
>Thanks..

You could try oven cleaner, or lye, to start.

[co...@tprex.com]

Just purchased Dalton lathe lot #5 No 248. The lathe is missing most of the gears for the lead screw. Is there a source for these gears or if not, perhaps drawings and list gears/numbers of teeth.

Thanking you in advance.

Colin Campbell

[mccullou...@gmail.com]

I just found a Dalton, short bed, and has a box of change gears etc. It has been exposed for a few years but as I do restoration on machines, this should be a doable restoration. I am going to have it in my shop in a few days but I believe if is missing the gear cover (the hinged housing) and from pctures on the internet, there is also a pulley cover missing. I am sorry that do not know the names of all the parts yet. How unobtainable are these covers as I would like to make it complete if at all possible. I will post a serial number once I have the lathe on my bench and can locate it or any other identifying features. I am excited!

[co...@tprex.com]

I realize now that there are several gears missing. i have a double gear at the top which mates to the spindle plus a 48 tooth and a 96 tooth.

[WubWub]

replying to Dennis Turk, WubWub wrote:
Hi Dennis. I might be England's number three! I have a Dalton lathe no. 747 as
I remember it. Think it is a B4. I stored it away, but got it out the other
day to clean and sell it. After assembling it and cleaning it, I knew that I
could not sell it and that I need to finish what I started and to make the
change gears that it lacked (I bought a Clarke CLM500M and a Vertex Dividing
Head from a friend just to do that). Anyway, send me an email and I'll pop
some pictures to you. I imagine that it's nearly all there. I'm not 100% sure
on the setup, although I did have it running long enough to make two brass
spinners!

[mccullou...@gmail.com]

Dennis,
I would like to get in touch with you regarding my Dalton. I saved it from the scrapper, but I am fully committed to bringing it back. I would like to learn more about parts, potential parts machines or ideas. I thank you kindly,Adrian
415 418-9112

[Matt]

replying to Dennis Turk, Matt wrote:
My son is restoring a Dalton lathe for his engineering for his HS project. He
will need some help identifying it. It doesn’t appear to have a visible
serial number, just patent plates etc on front and side. Shows patent number
and 1922 as last patent listed. Engine actually works, most parts are there.
Trying to identify and run down owners manual etc. He hopes to restore it by
end of this school year for a Maker’s Fair exhibit. Can you help out?

[chris...@gmail.com]

I just acquired a Dalton from my father. I believe he acquired it from a local school.

It's a short lot 5, I think the s/n is 275 but I will confirm.

Has a roughly made table and a couple of pails of parts.

Some light rust and it's obviously not been used in awhile. Unfortunately the gear cover and part of the end support were broken and then crudely welded. I'll have to see what I can do to make them more presentable.

I have a small Chinese lathe in running condition, so I plan on taking the Dalton apart and basically rebuilding it. Dalton has a slightly larger swing and longer ways and I suspect it will be a better machine once I get it running again.

Curious if there's any information on what colors these originally came in. Mine's covered in sloppy grey paint but I suspect it's been repainted numerous times.

I'm a little sore from moving this thing by myself and I have a stack of other projects pending, but I hope to make the Dalton a winter project.

[bill...@gmail.com]

Hi All, I've just retrieved a Dalton lot 5, 7inch with 30" bed from my father-in-law's basement, which was originally purchased by his grandfather from the Reeve-Fritts Co in Chicago (their plate is on the bed). It is in pretty good shape - a few missing bolts and in need of cleaning up. back gear shaft might need some work. Has the original countershaft and motor, although not the original mounts, or gear sets. I should have it running in a couple weeks, thanks to help from Dennis and Tony. I do not see a lot or model number stamped anywhere, but the serial number 6175 stamped on right end of the bed. I emailed some photos to Dennis.
cheers,
Bill

[Roger]

replying to Dennis Turk, Roger wrote:
I have a Dalton lathe with a 4 " 3 jaw chuck made by The D.E. Whiton Co. New
London Con.
The jaws are marked; AK1, AK2, AK3. The # 3 jaw has several teeth missing. Is
there a
way to repair the jaw or replace it?

[aaron...@gmail.com]

Ok so I bought one off an elderly lady back in 2005. It has quite a few extra parts including all the gears. I really just use it as a hobby lathe for small project. I repaired the motor/spindle mount and electrics when I bought it. The headstock has
Ex’s than 0.003” runout shttps://imgur.com/gallery/VvpLbZo I’m happy. Recently I was chatting on Reddit and was encouraged to make contact with you. I have no idea what I have other than it’s a dalton six. Here’s a video of it in operation.

https://imgur.com/gallery/VvpLbZc

Call or text me at(260) 750-0609

[Gunner Asch]

What are you planning on doing with this nice old lathe?

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"Poor widdle Wudy...mentally ill, lies constantly, doesnt know who he is, or even what gender "he" is.

No more pathetic creature has ever walked the earth. But...he is locked into a mental hospital for the safety of the public.

Which is a very good thing."

Asun rauhassa, valmistaudun sotaan.

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[roke...@sonic.net]

I just purchased a dalton lathe that plan to use for small bike projects. The end of the bed is 24" from the chuck and the # on the end of bed is 6186. I would appreciate an y information on this machine, also what weight machine oil do you use in the spindle oilers. Thanks.

ray

[rtlawr...@gmail.com]

[Roger]

replying to Dennis Turk, Roger wrote:

I have a Dalton Lathe 6 with a 3 jaw chuck marked "The D.E. Whiton Co." The
number 3 Jaw has three teeth
missing. Where might i get a replacement jaw? ( Chuck is 4" dia. )

[bill...@gmail.com]

Hello,

From what I can tell, these parts are not generally interchangeable. I have a Dalton 7" (number 6125) and the three jaw chuck that isn't running true (after 100 years, no surprise...) and have been looking around for jaws or chuck to replace it. Nothing I've found fits - even the 1.25" - 12 spindle thread seems to be bespoke. Let me know if you find something!

[Jim Wilkins]

<bill...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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You buy a blank, unthreaded, chuck backplate and use the lathe to
thread it to fit the spindle. Then you match the front of the
backplate to the back of the new chuck.
http://www.lathes.co.uk/latheparts/page7.html

You could practice threading a pipe fitting before risking the
backplate.

[John B. Slocomb]

Back when I was an apprentice boy no 3 jawed chuck was considered to
be perfectly centered and one always chucked up a larger piece of
stock to allow for a "truing cut" to ensure the work was running true.
Things shore have changed but a 4 jawed, independent chuck and a dial
indicator was the only method of ensuring that a work piece was
"centered".

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Cheers,
John B.

[DoN. Nichols]

On 2019-02-21, bill...@gmail.com <bill...@gmail.com> wrote:

[ ... ]

> Hello,

> From what I can tell, these parts are not generally interchangeable.
> I have a Dalton 7" (number 6125) and the three jaw chuck that isn't
> running true (after 100 years, no surprise...) and have been looking
> around for jaws or chuck to replace it.

Hmm ... first find out where the runout is coming from. One
possible place in a 3-jaw (or the rare universal 4-jaw) is the scroll
plate. It normally is held on center by a boss into the center of the
plate, and over the years, the ID wears and allows the plate to shift
off center -- thus carrying the jaws with it.

To add to the fun -- if there are multiple key holes, the
direction of the offset depends on the key hole used for the last
tightening. Some chucks have a marker beside one of the (typically
three) key holes, and when new, this was the one which would give
minimum runout.

So -- take the back plate off (assuming that there is a separate
back plate) and whatever else is necessary to access the back of the
scroll plate.

Then clean it all with a reasonable grease solvent, and with the
jaws removed, see whether the scroll plate can be slid around a bit. If
so, slide it to one side, and at the point opposite the contact point,
get your index gages and find which one is the thickest that you can
slide into the gap.

Divide that thickness by two, and get some shim stock of that
thickness, and cut a piece long enough to wrap around the boss in the
chuck, and wide enough to match the thickness of the scroll place, and
put it in the gap between the boss and the scroll plate hub.

Once this is done, try each of the key holes to see which gives
the least runout. Hopefully, this is the one marked by the maker.

Using this one, tighten the jaws onto a ring -- ideally one made
to fit behind the gripping surface of the jaws -- and then mount a
toolpost grinder (or adapt a Dremel or the like to act as one) and
re-grind the inside end of the jaws until all three are clean fresh
grinding. At this point, you will probably have better centering at all
sizes with the reground jaws -- except if the scroll in the plate has
worn at a particular angle of setting, or has had the scroll teeth bent
by overtightening at a particular size. The wearing could be if it was
at one time used in production, almost always tightened on the same
diameter of stock. If that has happened, it really needs a new scroll
plate -- somewhat tricky to make, unless you have a universal mill with
an index head geared to the X-axis leadscrew.

> Nothing I've found fits - even
> the 1.25" - 12 spindle thread seems to be bespoke. Let me know if you
> find something!

1.25" x 12TPI spindle suggests that you need to make your own
backplate for a new chuck, rather than trying to find one which you can
buy.

Good Luck,
DoN.

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[DoN. Nichols]

On 2019-02-21, John B Slocomb <sloc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 21 Feb 2019 17:59:54 -0500, "Jim Wilkins"
><murat...@gmail.com> wrote:

[ ... ]

>>You buy a blank, unthreaded, chuck backplate and use the lathe to
>>thread it to fit the spindle. Then you match the front of the
>>backplate to the back of the new chuck.
>>http://www.lathes.co.uk/latheparts/page7.html
>>
>>You could practice threading a pipe fitting before risking the
>>backplate.
>>
>
> Back when I was an apprentice boy no 3 jawed chuck was considered to
> be perfectly centered and one always chucked up a larger piece of
> stock to allow for a "truing cut" to ensure the work was running true.
> Things shore have changed but a 4 jawed, independent chuck and a dial
> indicator was the only method of ensuring that a work piece was
> "centered".

Absolutely! Though you can get fairly close for many purposes
with an "Adjust-Tru" style chuck.

Best to Re-True it each time you change the size of stock held
in the chuck.

Enjoy,

[turn...@googlemail.com]

Hi, my father owns a Dalton Lathe that he has owned for around 50 years and is now trying to identify the model. We cannot see any identification plates on the lathe at all. Would you be able to identify it from pictures? If you could send me an e-mail address, then I can We Transfer them to you.

Many thanks,

Nigel

[kodiake...@gmail.com]

[kodiake...@gmail.com]

Hi my name is Brian Denny, I bought a Dalton a while back, I believe it is a lot 4. It came to me without a tailstock and had been out side here in Oregon for a long time. I will eventually get to work on it. Anybody have a tailstock?

[ggloor]

replying to turnern67, ggloor wrote:
Hi Nigel,
On Daltons the model number is usually stamped on the right hand end of the
ways.

I would like to see any pictures you have: guy....@chesilton.com
https://www.polytechforum.com/img/6d

[rgmoo...@gmail.com]

Hello i have a Dalton nine x four and im looking for the end gear cover and top gear covers

[aru...@gmail.com]

I just un packed my fathers dalton lathe after 11 years in storage. All cleaned up . A few minor repairs. I have tones of tooling with it . And gear sets etc.
9x3 . Where is the serial number normally located?
Also I need instruction about how to use the gears etc and thread cut.

It has two drives. One threaded , one slotted. There is a thread counter/ index my father made. As a kid I remember using this lathe and cutting threads using the counter. But I can’t remember enough... are manuals available?

[Jim Wilkins]

<aru...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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In general, if the spindle and leadscrew are geared together 1:1 the
lathe cuts the same pitch as the leadscrew. For other pitches you need
gear ratios the same as the pitch ratios. For example to cut 16 TPI
with an 8 TPI leadscrew the leadscrew has to be reduced to 1/2 of
spindle speed. Gears can't have too few teeth, so the gear for 13 TPI
has 13 * 4 = 54 teeth and would be matched with 8 * 4 = 32 teeth.

A spreadsheet can be useful if you are reconstructing the gear train
ratios.

The thread counter dial on my South Bend allows disengaging the half
nuts to move the carriage quickly back to the thread start, without
stopping the lathe. It's not really necessary, you can back out the
bit and reverse the lathe instead.

The 1942 edition of "How to Run a Lathe" may be better than newer
editions for a lathe from the 1920's: My 1965 South Bend preserves
many relics of that age such as the option for overhead leather belt
drive.

[allan canfield]

replying to Dennis Turk, allan canfield wrote:
Dennis i recently bought one of these dalton lathes i know nothing about this
item i would love to get some info on it if i could and would like to know
where i can get parts for it. It is a lot 5 #480. I need a bit holder and a
center for it. you can reach me at allanca...@gmail.com
https://www.polytechforum.com/img/6q
https://www.polytechforum.com/img/6r
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[sveinl...@gmail.com]

Hi. Got me å Dalton lathe no3391 oktober 06 1917 b4 in very god kondisjon i live in Norway.

[Chuck]

replying to Dennis Turk, Chuck wrote:
Hi my name is Chuck I have an old Dalton I think may be a lot 4 but not 100%
sure I'm gona have a look though tomorrow !!

[Matt]

replying to Dennis Turk, Matt wrote:
Hi got a b4 dalton no. 102 I think it's not been touched seems all original
apart for motor so what age does lot 102 fall in to how many are left in UK
mine I was told came of battle ship? So thare at least one in Scotland cheers.
Matt

[Matt]

replying to Dennis Turk, Matt wrote:

Hi I have a Dolton b4 nice old lathe information on it would be great could
you tell me what oil I should be using and drops per minute all info on this
would b good I live in Scotland UK look forward to hearing from you. Cheers.

[Roger]

replying to Dennis Turk, Roger wrote:

Hellow; my name is Roger Lawrence in Newfield Me USA. I have a Dalton lathe,
Circa 1922, Type B-4, Dalton 6,
Lot -5, No. 547, Swing- 7 1/4" . The 4" - 3Jaw chuck is made by the D.E.
whiten Co. New London Con. the
jaws are marked,AK1, AK2, AK3. The no. 3 Jaw has several teeth missing. Is
there a way to repair or replace
the jaw?

[cam...@gmail.com]

Just purchased a dalton lathe it has no lot number that I can find just seven in.lathe it needs alot of cleaning and polishing.
Has a copyright March 1922 and at the end of the bed it has 5188 stamped in the metal.

Regards
Jean

[warren]

replying to Dennis Turk, warren wrote:
I was given a Dalton Lot4 #3001 It has a few issues. Is there anyone in the
New England, midcoast Maine, to be more precise, area? I'd like to swap it for
Southbend 9 stuff.

[warren]

replying to Dennis Turk, warren wrote:

I have a lot 4 #3001. Located in midcoast Maine. I would swap it for some

[Jonathan mccoy]

replying to Dennis Turk, Jonathan mccoy wrote:
I'm in bad need of a dalton owners manual I need to learn how to slow the feed
down and I'm looking for a dalton thread counter

[Greg Sanchez]

replying to Dennis Turk, Greg Sanchez wrote:
My name is Greg, just picked a Dalton Six, b-4 and wanting to sell. Looks
complete and was being used. Any interest?
https://www.polytechforum.com/img/75
https://www.polytechforum.com/img/76

[Paul]

replying to Dennis Turk, Paul wrote:
Hello I have taken ownership of a Dalton lathe that needs some serious TLC can
you help me with some info

[Tomas]

replying to Dennis Turk, Tomas wrote:
I have a Dalton lathe (lot 5 serial # 14 ), I plan to restore this lathe. The
lathe is mostly complete although a couple parts are missing. I would be
interested in being part of your group.

[John Finch]

replying to Dennis Turk, John Finch wrote:
Mr Turk
Do you a thread dial you made for dalton lathes for sale?
John Finch__

[Michael Terrell]

He posted 17 years ago. Do you really think that he will respond?

[jasperboy]

replying to Dennis Turk, jasperboy wrote:
Mr. Turk you and I have talked before but it has been years. I have a Dalton
6 that is apart now. It was fairly complete and I was going to restore it but
I lost the friend I was doing it with. I hope you can find someone that can
complete it. I will gift it to the person you recommend I trust your
judgement that it will go where it belongs. Thanks Michael Young. I live
down east of Eugene

[Joe]

I am dalton owner and have an issue maybe u can help me with my email jaxs...@gmail.com my number text or call 6672318349

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[Tomas]

Hi Dennis,
This is Tomas. I have a Dalton lot 5 serial No 14 that I want to restore.I do have some missing parts I’m looking for. I did get manny things from EBay.
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