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Adam Howarter

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> I have a weird question: has anyone attempted to convert a cruise missile
> like the tomahawk into a piloted aircraft? (without the warhead, of course!)
> I think I remember hearing once that some woman had a piloted version of the
> tomahawk.

To what end?

Zorak

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Bev Clark/Steve Gallacci

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In article <6gdl95$7kf$1...@winter.news.erols.com>,
Sounds silly. These are awfully small in section machines, no where to sit.
What you might have half-heard is the use of cruise missle engines for a
small plane. That's been done.


Zorak

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No, I'm sure I heard of a woman piloting a tomahawk.

Bev Clark/Steve Gallacci wrote in message ...

Maury Markowitz

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> Zorak <som...@somewhere.net> wrote:
>I have a weird question: has anyone attempted to convert a cruise missile
>like the tomahawk into a piloted aircraft? (without the warhead, of course!)
>I think I remember hearing once that some woman had a piloted version of the
>tomahawk.

Actually it was a V-1.

Maury


Zorak

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Yeah, that might be it.

Maury Markowitz wrote in message <6gdhtq$k3q$1...@ns3.vrx.net>...

Steven P. McNicoll

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Zorak wrote in message <6ge2up$km4$1...@winter.news.erols.com>...


>
>No, I'm sure I heard of a woman piloting a tomahawk.
>

Perhaps it was a Curtiss Tomahawk.

>Bev Clark/Steve Gallacci wrote in message ...
>>In article <6gdl95$7kf$1...@winter.news.erols.com>,

>>Zorak <som...@somewhere.net> wrote:
>>>I have a weird question: has anyone attempted to convert a cruise missile
>>>like the tomahawk into a piloted aircraft? (without the warhead, of
>course!)
>>>I think I remember hearing once that some woman had a piloted version of
>the
>>>tomahawk.
>>>
>>>

Jim Erickson

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>Bev Clark/Steve Gallacci wrote in message ...
>>In article <6gdl95$7kf$1...@winter.news.erols.com>,
>>Zorak <som...@somewhere.net> wrote:
>>>I have a weird question: has anyone attempted to convert a cruise missile
>>>like the tomahawk into a piloted aircraft? (without the warhead, of
>course!)
>>>I think I remember hearing once that some woman had a piloted version of
>the
>>>tomahawk.
>>>
>>>
>>Sounds silly. These are awfully small in section machines, no where to
sit.
>>What you might have half-heard is the use of cruise missle engines for a
>>small plane. That's been done.

Perhaps you're thinking of the WWII German V1 Buzz bomb. Some test
models were piloted and I think that the famous test pilot Hannah Reich
(sp?) flew them.

Jim Erickson

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In article <bevnsagE...@netcom.com>,

bev...@netcom.com (Bev Clark/Steve Gallacci) wrote:
>
> In article <6gdl95$7kf$1...@winter.news.erols.com>,
> Zorak <som...@somewhere.net> wrote:
> >I have a weird question: has anyone attempted to convert a cruise missile
> >like the tomahawk into a piloted aircraft? (without the warhead, of course!)
> >I think I remember hearing once that some woman had a piloted version of the
> >tomahawk.
> >
> >
> Sounds silly. These are awfully small in section machines, no where to sit.
> What you might have half-heard is the use of cruise missle engines for a
> small plane. That's been done.

Or is it possible that somehow he has gotten confused with Hannah Reich who
test-flew a piloted version of the V-1? That would be odd.

Michael

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Maury Markowitz

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In <6ge3r6$rjv$1...@winter.news.erols.com> "Zorak" claimed:

> Yeah, that might be it.

€ I'm sure it is, but my memory is hazy and my spelling worse. It was a V-1
testbed airframe that was piloted by a famous German (woman) test pilot, but
I can't remember her name - Hanna Reich or something like that.

Maury


R.T.

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em...@olypen.com wrote:

wasn't the Japanese Bakaa suicide bomber a modified version of a V-1?
...might want to check the Air Force Museum web site to see what kind of
writeup they have on their Bakaa...

R.T.

Tamela R. Germano

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> Zorak <som...@somewhere.net> wrote:
> I have a weird question: has anyone attempted to convert a cruise missile
> like the tomahawk into a piloted aircraft? (without the warhead, of course!)
> I think I remember hearing once that some woman had a piloted version of the

WWII, it was a piloted V-1.

Dino in Reno

RFKohm

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Adam Howater asked, vis-vis piloting a Tomohawk:

>To what end?

Since the good folks on the other side of the Potomac have already told us they
can hit a specific window at several hundred miles with the current version,
perhaps the new and improved pilotted version can hit an individual pane of
glass in said window ;-) And at only another $2.5 million per, such a bargain!

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Maybe it was a Tomahawk. I have flown one . Piper PA-38-112 single
engine airplane?


Bill Kambic

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Adam Howarter wrote:
>
> > I have a weird question: has anyone attempted to convert a cruise missile
> > like the tomahawk into a piloted aircraft? (without the warhead, of course!)
> > I think I remember hearing once that some woman had a piloted version of the
> > tomahawk.
>
> To what end?

Hanna Reich (sp?) in the early 1940's flew a V-1 on a short flight to
investigate some control difficulties. (I guess that goes to show that
you don't need balls to be test pilot.<g>) As a result, the V-1 was a
far more effective weapon.

I can't imagine why this would be done today except at a publicity stunt
(and not a very bright one, IMHO).

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Jarmo Lindberg

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Adam Howarter wrote:

> > I have a weird question: has anyone attempted to convert a cruise missile
> > like the tomahawk into a piloted aircraft? (without the warhead, of course!)
> > I think I remember hearing once that some woman had a piloted version of the
> > tomahawk.
>
> To what end?

Probably tryig to get the Darwinian Award? :-)

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MSmith5048

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>I have a weird question: has anyone attempted to convert a cruise missile
>like the tomahawk into a piloted aircraft? (without the warhead, of course!)
>I think I remember hearing once that some woman had a piloted version of the
>tomahawk.

The very first cruise missile, the German V1 of WW2 infamy, was piloted by
women test-pilots while under development. Obviously the production versions
weren't piloted.

Mike

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In article <352dc714...@news.newsguy.com>,

ko...@earthlink.net wrote:
>
> em...@olypen.com wrote:
>
> >In article <bevnsagE...@netcom.com>,
> > bev...@netcom.com (Bev Clark/Steve Gallacci) wrote:
> >> In article <6gdl95$7kf$1...@winter.news.erols.com>,
> >> Zorak <som...@somewhere.net> wrote:
> >> >I have a weird question: has anyone attempted to convert a cruise missile
> >> >like the tomahawk into a piloted aircraft? (without the warhead, of course!)
> >> >I think I remember hearing once that some woman had a piloted version of the
> >> >tomahawk.
> >> Sounds silly. These are awfully small in section machines, no where to sit.
> >> What you might have half-heard is the use of cruise missle engines for a
> >> small plane. That's been done.
> >Or is it possible that somehow he has gotten confused with Hannah Reich who
> >test-flew a piloted version of the V-1? That would be odd.
> >Michael
> >-----== Posted via Deja News, The Leader in Internet Discussion ==-----
> >http://www.dejanews.com/ Now offering spam-free web-based newsreading
>
> wasn't the Japanese Bakaa suicide bomber a modified version of a V-1?
> ...might want to check the Air Force Museum web site to see what kind of
> writeup they have on their Bakaa...
>
> R.T.

Not quite. I don't know exactly what its range was, but it would be too short
to classify as a true cruise missile. What it was, was an air-launched stand-
off weapon with a human guidance system. None, BTW, ever reached its target.
The few that got into the air had their mother planes shot down before they
ever got within launch range.

Bev Clark/Steve Gallacci

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>>
>> wasn't the Japanese Bakaa suicide bomber a modified version of a V-1?
>> ...might want to check the Air Force Museum web site to see what kind of
>> writeup they have on their Bakaa...
>>
>> R.T.
>
>Not quite. I don't know exactly what its range was, but it would be too short
>to classify as a true cruise missile. What it was, was an air-launched stand-
>off weapon with a human guidance system. None, BTW, ever reached its target.
>The few that got into the air had their mother planes shot down before they
>ever got within launch range.

Gosh no. The Ohka 11 was a purely Japanese design, havng nothing to do
the the V1.
I thought a very few did make hits (?)
There was an intentionally manned V1, the F1 103R4 "Reichenberg". Wasn't
used operationally, but several hundred were built. The manned V1 test
ops might be a semi-tall tale, and Hannah Reich likely(?) didn't fly one.
I'd heard that her involvement was a cover for her accidnet in a Me163
crash(?) She later became a proponent of the "Reichenberg" project.

Mary Shafer

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"Zorak" <som...@somewhere.net> writes:

> I have a weird question: has anyone attempted to convert a cruise missile
> like the tomahawk into a piloted aircraft? (without the warhead, of course!)
> I think I remember hearing once that some woman had a piloted version of the
> tomahawk.

In 1993 two employees of Scaled Composites reported on "Manned Test
Flight of an Unmanned Air Vehicle" at the SETP Symposium. However,
they didn't get a written version into the Proceedings, so that's
about all I can say specifically. The general technique involved
adding a very limited instrument panel and pilot controls, with the
pilot straddling the vehicle, I think somewhere near the cg. I
believe they provided a backrest and foot pegs for pilot stability.

Shades of Slim Pickins, which is what came to everyone's mind
immediately on seeing the picture pf the pilot riding the vehicle.

Regarding the identity of the vehicle, all I can say for sure is that
it wasn't a Tomahawk. I don't remember what it was and don't think it
was a cruise missile anyway.

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Adam Howarter

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> >> Probably tryig to get the Darwinian Award? :-)
> >
> >Ummmmmmmm....that would require _keeping_ the warhead wouldn't it?? <G>
> >
>
> Not necessarily, the individual's genes can be removed from the gene pool
> without the warhead.

Remember the JATO/Impala story.

Maiesm72

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Does anybody else picture a Star Wars Speeder Bike when they read this thread?

Hanna Reich was photographed in a Reicheburg IV, but this may well have been
just propoganda.

Tom Young

Brett Jaffee

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In article <u0n2dw3...@reseng.dfrc.nasa.gov>, Mary Shafer <sha...@reseng.dfrc.nasa.gov> wrote:
>"Zorak" <som...@somewhere.net> writes:
>
>> I have a weird question: has anyone attempted to convert a cruise missile
>> like the tomahawk into a piloted aircraft? (without the warhead, of course!)
>> I think I remember hearing once that some woman had a piloted version of the
>> tomahawk.
>
>In 1993 two employees of Scaled Composites reported on "Manned Test
>Flight of an Unmanned Air Vehicle" at the SETP Symposium. However,
>they didn't get a written version into the Proceedings, so that's
>about all I can say specifically. The general technique involved
>adding a very limited instrument panel and pilot controls, with the
>pilot straddling the vehicle, I think somewhere near the cg. I
>believe they provided a backrest and foot pegs for pilot stability.
>

I saw a picture of this, in of all places, Model Airplane News. It was a
small, prop powered UAV, and the guy was indeed stradling it like a horse.
There were foot pegs for his feet to rest on. I recall reading that he was
there to take control if something went wrong with the drones automated flight
systems, or something like that.

Brett

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Jarmo Lindberg wrote in message <352BD2E5...@sci.fi>...


>Adam Howarter wrote:
>
>> > I have a weird question: has anyone attempted to convert a cruise
missile
>> > like the tomahawk into a piloted aircraft? (without the warhead, of
course!)
>> > I think I remember hearing once that some woman had a piloted version
of the
>> > tomahawk.
>>

>> To what end?


>
> Probably tryig to get the Darwinian Award? :-)

Ummmmmmmm....that would require _keeping_ the warhead wouldn't it?? <G>

Best,
Jim

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em...@olypen.com wrote:
>In article <352dc714...@news.newsguy.com>,> ko...@earthlink.net wrote:
>>
>> em...@olypen.com wrote:
>>
>> >In article <bevnsagE...@netcom.com>,
>> > bev...@netcom.com (Bev Clark/Steve Gallacci) wrote:
>> >> In article <6gdl95$7kf$1...@winter.news.erols.com>,
>> >> Zorak <som...@somewhere.net> wrote:
>> >> >I have a weird question: has anyone attempted to convert a cruise missile
>> >> >like the tomahawk into a piloted aircraft? (without the warhead, of course!)
>> >> >I think I remember hearing once that some woman had a piloted version of the
>> >> >tomahawk.
>> >> Sounds silly. These are awfully small in section machines, no where to sit.
>> >> What you might have half-heard is the use of cruise missle engines for a
>> >> small plane. That's been done.
>> >Or is it possible that somehow he has gotten confused with Hannah Reich who
>> >test-flew a piloted version of the V-1? That would be odd.
>> >Michael
>> >-----== Posted via Deja News, The Leader in Internet Discussion ==-----
>> >http://www.dejanews.com/ Now offering spam-free web-based newsreading
>>
>> wasn't the Japanese Bakaa suicide bomber a modified version of a V-1?
>> ...might want to check the Air Force Museum web site to see what kind of
>> writeup they have on their Bakaa...
>>
>> R.T.
>
>Not quite. I don't know exactly what its range was, but it would be too short
>to classify as a true cruise missile. What it was, was an air-launched stand-
>off weapon with a human guidance system. None, BTW, ever reached its target.
>The few that got into the air had their mother planes shot down before they
>ever got within launch range.
>
>Michael
>
Ahem. I remember reading that at least one Baka hit a tanker in Okinawa waters. I think (rpt think)
BB Idaho got hit also.
FYI Baka was tiny. I don't think a standard US man would fit
in the cockpit. It had a huge AP warhead of about 2800# and was
powered by 3 smokeless powder rockets like US JATO units. The
sight (!) was a ring and bead affair like on early P40s. There is
one in the USAF museum.
BJ


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Bill Kambic <wka...@ix.netcom.com> writes:
> Hanna Reich (sp?) in the early 1940's flew a V-1 on a short flight to
> investigate some control difficulties. (I guess that goes to show that
> you don't need balls to be test pilot.<g>) As a result, the V-1 was a
> far more effective weapon.

Wasn't Hanna the _second_ to fly a V1? IIRC the first pilot died in the
attempt. Hanna was the first (and only?) person to fly a V1 and live.

Pat

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> Ahem. I remember reading that at least one Baka hit a tanker in
Okinawa waters. I think (rpt think)
> BB Idaho got hit also.
> FYI Baka was tiny. I don't think a standard US man would fit
> in the cockpit. It had a huge AP warhead of about 2800# and was
> powered by 3 smokeless powder rockets like US JATO units. The
> sight (!) was a ring and bead affair like on early P40s. There is
> one in the USAF museum.
> BJ

I think the proper name had something to do with flower petals, the
"Baka" was the name given it by the U.S. I think that "Baka" is translated
as "stupid".
The problem was that the bomber transporting it to the battle area was
easy to shoot down, once released the Baka would be hard to hit.

Dino in Reno

Bev Clark/Steve Gallacci

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In article <vxj7m4z...@goblin.pdj.renault.fr>,

Patrick Hayes <Patrick.Hay...@renault.fr> wrote:
>Bill Kambic <wka...@ix.netcom.com> writes:
>> Hanna Reich (sp?) in the early 1940's flew a V-1 on a short flight to
>> investigate some control difficulties. (I guess that goes to show that
>> you don't need balls to be test pilot.<g>) As a result, the V-1 was a
>> far more effective weapon.
>
>Wasn't Hanna the _second_ to fly a V1? IIRC the first pilot died in the
>attempt. Hanna was the first (and only?) person to fly a V1 and live.
>
You might be thinking of the movie"Operation Crossbow" whihc made that
suggestion. I'm not sure there were any manned test flights for the
initial missle , and have the
impression that Reich never flew one, and that her injuries in a Me163
crash was dis-information toward to a V1 test(?) She was later involved in
promoting the "Reichenberg" manned suicide V1 project.

Peter G.Zademack

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Zorak wrote:

> Yeah, that might be it.
>

> Maury Markowitz wrote in message <6gdhtq$k3q$1...@ns3.vrx.net>...

> >> Zorak <som...@somewhere.net> wrote:
> >>I have a weird question: has anyone attempted to convert a cruise missile
> >>like the tomahawk into a piloted aircraft? (without the warhead, of
> course!)
> >>I think I remember hearing once that some woman had a piloted version of
> the
> >>tomahawk.
> >

> > Actually it was a V-1.
> >
> >Maury
> >

the correct spelling is Reitch
zman


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The proper name for the Yokosuka MXY-7 is "Okha" (Cherry Blossom).
According to what I've been able to find on short notice (i.e. on my
bookshelf), the wingspan was just over 16 ft. 5 in. and the overall
length was 19 ft. 8 1/2 in. The three rockets delivered 588 lbs. of
thrust each, and the warhead was 2,645 lbs. of an unspecified high
explosive. These figures are for the Model 11 - subsequent models,
which never entered service, used Campini-type compressors or gas
turbines as powerplants.

Hope this helps.
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R.T.

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Jeff Noakes <jno...@chat.carleton*.ca> wrote:

For those wanting to see a color photo of the Okha, here's a link:
http://www.wpafb.af.mil/museum/air_power/ap22.htm

RSayers

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Can someone please post a picture of this or e-mail it to me?
bsa...@usa.net

Jarmo Lindberg

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Adam Howarter wrote:

> > >> Probably tryig to get the Darwinian Award? :-)
> > >
> > >Ummmmmmmm....that would require _keeping_ the warhead wouldn't it?? <G>
> > >
> >
> > Not necessarily, the individual's genes can be removed from the gene pool
> > without the warhead.
>

> Remember the JATO/Impala story.

If I recall right one of the Darwinian Award winners attached a JATO-rocket
(or something close to it) to his back and lit it up. It worked and he flew a
mile - and got the award.

Though I think the best one is still the guy with the lawnchair over LAX.

Carlo Kopp

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Jarmo Lindberg wrote:
>
> Adam Howarter wrote:
>
> > > >> Probably tryig to get the Darwinian Award? :-)
> > > >
> > > >Ummmmmmmm....that would require _keeping_ the warhead wouldn't it?? <G>
> > > >
> > >
> > > Not necessarily, the individual's genes can be removed from the gene pool
> > > without the warhead.
> >
> > Remember the JATO/Impala story.
>
> If I recall right one of the Darwinian Award winners attached a JATO-rocket
> (or something close to it) to his back and lit it up. It worked and he flew a
> mile - and got the award.
>
> Though I think the best one is still the guy with the lawnchair over LAX.
>
Or the guy who walked into a gun shop full of gun toting owners and
tried to rob the place at gunpoint ....

Cheers,

Carlo

Jarmo Lindberg

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Carlo Kopp wrote: >

> Or the guy who walked into a gun shop full of gun toting owners and
> tried to rob the place at gunpoint ....
>
> Cheers,
>
> Carlo

Or the guy who had trouble getting a Coke from the vending machine and started
shaking it with the results that the machine fell over him - and he got the 1995
award. (I know this is starting to get sidetracked from military aviation, but it
sure wouldn't be the first time in this NG :-)

A version of the lawnchair at: http://www.officialdarwinawards.com/lawnchair.html

One of the Darwin Award Home pages at: http://www.officialdarwinawards.com/

Jarmo Lindberg

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Jarmo Lindberg wrote:

> Adam Howarter wrote:
>
> > > >> Probably tryig to get the Darwinian Award? :-)
> > > >
> > > >Ummmmmmmm....that would require _keeping_ the warhead wouldn't it?? <G>
> > > >
> > >
> > > Not necessarily, the individual's genes can be removed from the gene pool
> > > without the warhead.
> >
> > Remember the JATO/Impala story.
>
> If I recall right one of the Darwinian Award winners attached a JATO-rocket
> (or something close to it) to his back and lit it up. It worked and he flew a
> mile - and got the award.

OK, It was the JATO/Impala story, but this one seems to be a myth:-
http://www.officialdarwinawards.com/uls/impala.html

Steven P. McNicoll

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Jarmo Lindberg wrote in message <352DCA14...@sci.fi>...


>Adam Howarter wrote:
>
>> > >> Probably tryig to get the Darwinian Award? :-)
>> > >
>> > >Ummmmmmmm....that would require _keeping_ the warhead wouldn't it??
<G>
>> > >
>> >
>> > Not necessarily, the individual's genes can be removed from the gene
pool
>> > without the warhead.
>>
>> Remember the JATO/Impala story.
>
> If I recall right one of the Darwinian Award winners attached a
JATO-rocket
>(or something close to it) to his back and lit it up. It worked and he flew
a
>mile - and got the award.
>

>Though I think the best one is still the guy with the lawnchair over LAX.
>


But he lived, his genes are still in the pool.

Laurence Doering

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In article <6gkukg$461$1...@news.inc.net>,

Steven P. McNicoll <ronca...@writeme.com> wrote:
>
>Jarmo Lindberg wrote in message <352DCA14...@sci.fi>...
>>
>> If I recall right one of the Darwinian Award winners attached a JATO-rocket
>>(or something close to it) to his back and lit it up. It worked and he flew
>>a mile - and got the award.

What was his name - Wile E. Coyote? I've never seen this story, even
on the websites that claim to keep track of the alleged "Darwin Awards".

>>Though I think the best one is still the guy with the lawnchair over LAX.
>
>But he lived, his genes are still in the pool.

While it's true that Larry Walters survived his aerial excursion back
in 1983, he's no longer with us. He committed suicide in the early
Nineties.

ljd

Steven P. McNicoll

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Laurence Doering wrote in message <6glilo$o...@mail.bcpl.lib.md.us>...


I didn't know that. Just the same, to be eligible for the award, I believe
the stupid act must cause the candidate's death.

Jim

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There was a guy recently who choked to death while trying to swallow a
live fish (I think it was about 5 in. long) on a dare.

Can anyone say "One neuron short of a synapse"


Adam Howarter

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>> If I recall right one of the Darwinian Award winners attached a JATO-rocket
> >>(or something close to it) to his back and lit it up. It worked and he flew
> >>a mile - and got the award.

Bad news. As much fun as this one is, its now been confirmed as an urban
legand. Sorry. But there are plenty real ones. But don't take my word
for it, go to the source http://www.officaldarwinawards.com/index.html

wal...@oneimage.com

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here's a candidate, kind of dated but honest to God true because i was there
when it happened. It was about 1956, at Naha AB, Okinawa, in the
51st Fighter Wing. An F86D returned froma rocket-firing and reported
"no fire". One of our less bright armorers went out and extracted a 2.75"
folding-fin air to air rocket from the rocket pod and decided to
check continuity of the rocket's firing leads. Instead of a special highly
sensitive gavanometer he didn;t ahve with him, he grabbed a PSM6
multimeter. A compadre said "Hey, don;t, it might go off!"
The Darwinian candidate demurred, replying "No sweat, GI; this wil do
the job just fine." He racke the rocket noseup over his shoulder and
stuck the PSM6's leads on the rocket's body and firing contact.

wal...@oneimage.com

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Adam Howarter <Ahow...@prodigy.net> wrote:
>>> If I recall right one of the Darwinian Award winners attached a JATO-rocket>> >>(or something close to it) to his back and lit it up. It worked and he flew
>> >>a mile - and got the award.
>
>Bad news. As much fun as this one is, its now been confirmed as an urban
>legand. Sorry. But there are plenty real ones. But don't take my word
>for it, go to the source http://www.officaldarwinawards.com/index.html

OOPS! Accidentally hit the wrong window... to continue, countdown was
instantaneous and the 2.75" launched from his arm and shoulder.
The 'launch pad' received major burns and a hell of a shock but
survived . . . I don;t know where he went after that because I returned
to the US before he got out fo the hospital.
- It takes all kinds . . . .
Walt Bjorneby

Phil

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I look at this site, it had me rolling on the floor. Check it out, but
don't drink anything while you're reading, 'else you'll have milk up
your nose.

Phil

wal...@oneimage.com wrote:
>
> Adam Howarter <Ahow...@prodigy.net> wrote:
> >>> If I recall right one of the Darwinian Award winners attached a JATO-rocket>> >>(or something close to it) to his back and lit it up. It worked and he flew
> >> >>a mile - and got the award.
> >
> >Bad news. As much fun as this one is, its now been confirmed as an urban
> >legand. Sorry. But there are plenty real ones. But don't take my word
> >for it, go to the source http://www.officaldarwinawards.com/index.html
>

Glenn

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For those looking for the page previously referred to in this thread, there
was a typo in the URL. Try here:

http://www.officialdarwinawards.com/index.html

141.192.83.61

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In <352DD714...@sci.fi>, Jarmo Lindberg <jarmo.l...@sci.fi> writes:
>OK, It was the JATO/Impala story, but this one seems to be a myth:-
>http://www.officialdarwinawards.com/uls/impala.html

The whole "Award" thing is a myth, but does it make the "stories" less funny?
Propably not.


Kari Kamunen


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