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Hunter
May 28, 2012, 1:05:02 PM5/28/12
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During one of the commercial breaks a promo for a new movie came on.
It seemed to be about Abraham Lincoln. Then it turned into a movie
about vampires then back to Lincoln again and then vampires again.
Then I heard Lincoln and Vampire Hunter I could've swore I heard it
together in the same sentence.
Was I imagining things or is movie a sort of "Abraham the Vampire
Slayer"?
I am gasted with flabber. Never mind how the movie got made, how did
this survive the initial pitch?
No, I must have made a mistake. I have to take my own advice and
rewatch to make sure. I can barely conceive of a Kung Fu Marco Polo, a
movie from last year.
Abraham Lincoln as a Vampire Hunter? I can't deal with it.
------>Hunter
"No man in the wrong can stand up against
a fellow that's in the right and keeps on acomin'."
-----William J. McDonald
Captain, Texas Rangers from 1891 to 1907
It seemed to be about Abraham Lincoln. Then it turned into a movie
about vampires then back to Lincoln again and then vampires again.
Then I heard Lincoln and Vampire Hunter I could've swore I heard it
together in the same sentence.
Was I imagining things or is movie a sort of "Abraham the Vampire
Slayer"?
I am gasted with flabber. Never mind how the movie got made, how did
this survive the initial pitch?
No, I must have made a mistake. I have to take my own advice and
rewatch to make sure. I can barely conceive of a Kung Fu Marco Polo, a
movie from last year.
Abraham Lincoln as a Vampire Hunter? I can't deal with it.
------>Hunter
"No man in the wrong can stand up against
a fellow that's in the right and keeps on acomin'."
-----William J. McDonald
Captain, Texas Rangers from 1891 to 1907
Horace LaBadie
May 28, 2012, 12:08:14 PM5/28/12
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Dano
May 28, 2012, 12:11:27 PM5/28/12
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"Hunter (Hunter)" wrote in message
news:4fc3b01d...@news.optonline.net...
During one of the commercial breaks a promo for a new movie came on.
It seemed to be about Abraham Lincoln. Then it turned into a movie
about vampires then back to Lincoln again and then vampires again.
Then I heard Lincoln and Vampire Hunter I could've swore I heard it
together in the same sentence.
Was I imagining things or is movie a sort of "Abraham the Vampire
Slayer"?
I am gasted with flabber. Never mind how the movie got made, how did
this survive the initial pitch?
No, I must have made a mistake. I have to take my own advice and
rewatch to make sure. I can barely conceive of a Kung Fu Marco Polo, a
movie from last year.
Abraham Lincoln as a Vampire Hunter? I can't deal with it.
==============================================
Well then I suppose you didn't care for Bubba Ho-Tep either?
news:4fc3b01d...@news.optonline.net...
During one of the commercial breaks a promo for a new movie came on.
It seemed to be about Abraham Lincoln. Then it turned into a movie
about vampires then back to Lincoln again and then vampires again.
Then I heard Lincoln and Vampire Hunter I could've swore I heard it
together in the same sentence.
Was I imagining things or is movie a sort of "Abraham the Vampire
Slayer"?
I am gasted with flabber. Never mind how the movie got made, how did
this survive the initial pitch?
No, I must have made a mistake. I have to take my own advice and
rewatch to make sure. I can barely conceive of a Kung Fu Marco Polo, a
movie from last year.
Abraham Lincoln as a Vampire Hunter? I can't deal with it.
Well then I suppose you didn't care for Bubba Ho-Tep either?
EGK
May 28, 2012, 12:39:00 PM5/28/12
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On Mon, 28 May 2012 17:05:02 GMT, Hunter <buffh...@my-deja.com> (Hunter)
wrote:
>No, I must have made a mistake. I have to take my own advice and
>rewatch to make sure. I can barely conceive of a Kung Fu Marco Polo, a
>movie from last year.
>
>Abraham Lincoln as a Vampire Hunter? I can't deal with it.
>
>------>Hunter
Surely given your history of fanwanking every crappy bit of TV writing that
comes down the pike, you can do the same for one movie? :D
wrote:
>No, I must have made a mistake. I have to take my own advice and
>rewatch to make sure. I can barely conceive of a Kung Fu Marco Polo, a
>movie from last year.
>
>Abraham Lincoln as a Vampire Hunter? I can't deal with it.
>
>------>Hunter
comes down the pike, you can do the same for one movie? :D
Barry Margolin
May 28, 2012, 12:47:15 PM5/28/12
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> During one of the commercial breaks a promo for a new movie came on.
> It seemed to be about Abraham Lincoln. Then it turned into a movie
> about vampires then back to Lincoln again and then vampires again.
> Then I heard Lincoln and Vampire Hunter I could've swore I heard it
> together in the same sentence.
>
> Was I imagining things or is movie a sort of "Abraham the Vampire
> Slayer"?
>
> I am gasted with flabber. Never mind how the movie got made, how did
> this survive the initial pitch?
>
> No, I must have made a mistake. I have to take my own advice and
> rewatch to make sure. I can barely conceive of a Kung Fu Marco Polo, a
> movie from last year.
>
> Abraham Lincoln as a Vampire Hunter? I can't deal with it.
Yes, you saw right. It's based on a book, by the same author as "Pride
> It seemed to be about Abraham Lincoln. Then it turned into a movie
> about vampires then back to Lincoln again and then vampires again.
> Then I heard Lincoln and Vampire Hunter I could've swore I heard it
> together in the same sentence.
>
> Was I imagining things or is movie a sort of "Abraham the Vampire
> Slayer"?
>
> I am gasted with flabber. Never mind how the movie got made, how did
> this survive the initial pitch?
>
> No, I must have made a mistake. I have to take my own advice and
> rewatch to make sure. I can barely conceive of a Kung Fu Marco Polo, a
> movie from last year.
>
> Abraham Lincoln as a Vampire Hunter? I can't deal with it.
and Prejudice and Zombies". It was #4 on the NY Times bestseller list
its first week out, and #15 the second week. Movie studios are always
looking for popular books to turn into movies, so there may not even
have been a pitch -- the studio may have initiated it themselves.
--
Barry Margolin
Arlington, MA
Adam H. Kerman
May 28, 2012, 1:20:39 PM5/28/12
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Rhino
May 28, 2012, 1:54:04 PM5/28/12
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"Hunter (Hunter)" <buffh...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
news:4fc3b01d...@news.optonline.net...
> During one of the commercial breaks a promo for a new movie came on.
> It seemed to be about Abraham Lincoln. Then it turned into a movie
> about vampires then back to Lincoln again and then vampires again.
> Then I heard Lincoln and Vampire Hunter I could've swore I heard it
> together in the same sentence.
>
> Was I imagining things or is movie a sort of "Abraham the Vampire
> Slayer"?
>
> I am gasted with flabber. Never mind how the movie got made, how did
> this survive the initial pitch?
>
> No, I must have made a mistake. I have to take my own advice and
> rewatch to make sure. I can barely conceive of a Kung Fu Marco Polo, a
> movie from last year.
>
> Abraham Lincoln as a Vampire Hunter? I can't deal with it.
>
I saw a trailer for the film - whose title escapes me - in the theatre last
> It seemed to be about Abraham Lincoln. Then it turned into a movie
> about vampires then back to Lincoln again and then vampires again.
> Then I heard Lincoln and Vampire Hunter I could've swore I heard it
> together in the same sentence.
>
> Was I imagining things or is movie a sort of "Abraham the Vampire
> Slayer"?
>
> I am gasted with flabber. Never mind how the movie got made, how did
> this survive the initial pitch?
>
> No, I must have made a mistake. I have to take my own advice and
> rewatch to make sure. I can barely conceive of a Kung Fu Marco Polo, a
> movie from last year.
>
> Abraham Lincoln as a Vampire Hunter? I can't deal with it.
>
weekend. I had the same reaction as you did.
There is very VERY little worth seeing at movie theatres any more at least
if you're an adult who has outgrown comic books, superheroes and
vampires....
It's hard to believe that theatres used to show really GOOD films quite
regularly....
--
Rhino
David Johnston
May 28, 2012, 2:30:58 PM5/28/12
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On Monday, May 28, 2012 11:54:04 AM UTC-6, Rhino wrote:
> It's hard to believe that theatres used to show really GOOD films quite
> regularly....
> --
> Rhino
I don't actually believe it.
> It's hard to believe that theatres used to show really GOOD films quite
> regularly....
> --
> Rhino
JRStern
May 28, 2012, 3:18:27 PM5/28/12
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>Abraham Lincoln as a Vampire Hunter? I can't deal with it.
And only forty-three more presidents to go in the series.
J.
Adam H. Kerman
May 28, 2012, 4:56:48 PM5/28/12
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Rhino <no_offline_c...@example.com> wrote:
>There is very VERY little worth seeing at movie theatres any more at least
>if you're an adult who has outgrown comic books, superheroes and
>vampires....
>It's hard to believe that theatres used to show really GOOD films quite
>regularly....
Well, there are smaller pictures with limited budgets in limited distribution
>There is very VERY little worth seeing at movie theatres any more at least
>if you're an adult who has outgrown comic books, superheroes and
>vampires....
>It's hard to believe that theatres used to show really GOOD films quite
>regularly....
that aren't aimed at teenage boys and aren't romantic crap aimed at
pre-teen girls. Some are foreign, some are domestic. You may have to go
to specialty theaters or college campuses or go to a theater in a specific
chain that's also the distributor.
If you don't attend movies that you might enjoy in theaters, well, they
won't get made.
In the 1930's, horror movies were clearly aimed at adults, not pre-teen
girls.
I don't see a lot of movies adapted from comic books in theaters, but
if I'm selective, I can attend the movies that have something to offer
that I'd find entertaining. I liked the Dark Knight series of Batman
movies, had to see the sequel set in Chicago and filmed on location here.
As far as recent Marvel adaptations, Iron Man and The Avengers. I skipped
Iron Man 2, which sounded stupid. I probably should have seen Captain
America, since the 1940's nostalgia sounded fun.
I didn't want to see Thor as the guy looked had hair like a surfer dude
(with bigger muscles, granted) and not a Viking. Besides, I thought the
Asgaard were consciousness stuck into four foot tall artificial bodies.
I saw the second Hulk movie because I liked the actor, but the movie
wasn't very good. I've tried to watch the first Hulk movie on tv
and simply can't. It's dreadful.
I'd point out that it's certainly possible to adapt a comic book as a movie
that entertains adults and teenage boys. It's a matter of not having a
truly stupid script. There was plenty of stupid stuff in The Avengers,
which just dragged the movie down, especially the intramural fighting
that went on and on and on, but I really don't see why that made it
more marketable to teenage boys.
I know anim wants to see Iron Man versus SpiderhyphenMan, squish.
Adam H. Kerman
May 28, 2012, 4:57:47 PM5/28/12
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JRStern <JRS...@foobar.invalid> wrote:
>Hunter <buffh...@my-deja.com> (Hunter) wrote:
>>Abraham Lincoln as a Vampire Hunter? I can't deal with it.
>And only forty-three more presidents to go in the series.
Must resist making obvious Clinton punch line
>Hunter <buffh...@my-deja.com> (Hunter) wrote:
>>Abraham Lincoln as a Vampire Hunter? I can't deal with it.
>And only forty-three more presidents to go in the series.
Seapig
May 28, 2012, 6:05:02 PM5/28/12
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On May 28, 10:54 am, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact_ple...@example.com>
wrote:
> "Hunter (Hunter)" <buffhun...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
I don't know how much of it is going to make it into the movie, but
the book was actually pretty smart. It incorporated a lot of
Lincoln's actual biography, and bits and pieces of US and world
history. Knowing what I do know about history increased my enjoyment
of it, and the stuff I didn't know led me to read up on it to figure
out where the history ended and the fiction began.
wrote:
> "Hunter (Hunter)" <buffhun...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
the book was actually pretty smart. It incorporated a lot of
Lincoln's actual biography, and bits and pieces of US and world
history. Knowing what I do know about history increased my enjoyment
of it, and the stuff I didn't know led me to read up on it to figure
out where the history ended and the fiction began.
JRStern
May 28, 2012, 7:22:58 PM5/28/12
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J.
anim8rFSK
May 28, 2012, 8:24:19 PM5/28/12
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In article <jq0oqg$p4h$4...@news.albasani.net>,
problems.
what was real and what was a delusion.
original comics.
There was plenty of stupid stuff in The Avengers,
> which just dragged the movie down, especially the intramural fighting
> that went on and on and on, but I really don't see why that made it
> more marketable to teenage boys.
>
> I know anim wants to see Iron Man versus SpiderhyphenMan, squish.
Iron Man should squish Spider-Man just as quickly as Thor *should* have
flattened Iron Man.
--
NETFLIX is befouling the ends of shows with text & graphics and shrinkage
> Rhino <no_offline_c...@example.com> wrote:
>
> >There is very VERY little worth seeing at movie theatres any more at least
> >if you're an adult who has outgrown comic books, superheroes and
> >vampires....
>
> >It's hard to believe that theatres used to show really GOOD films quite
> >regularly....
>
> Well, there are smaller pictures with limited budgets in limited distribution
> that aren't aimed at teenage boys and aren't romantic crap aimed at
> pre-teen girls. Some are foreign, some are domestic. You may have to go
> to specialty theaters or college campuses or go to a theater in a specific
> chain that's also the distributor.
>
> If you don't attend movies that you might enjoy in theaters, well, they
> won't get made.
>
> In the 1930's, horror movies were clearly aimed at adults, not pre-teen
> girls.
>
> I don't see a lot of movies adapted from comic books in theaters, but
> if I'm selective, I can attend the movies that have something to offer
> that I'd find entertaining. I liked the Dark Knight series of Batman
> movies, had to see the sequel set in Chicago and filmed on location here.
> As far as recent Marvel adaptations, Iron Man and The Avengers. I skipped
> Iron Man 2, which sounded stupid. I probably should have seen Captain
> America, since the 1940's nostalgia sounded fun.
Iron Man 2 wasn't nearly as good as 1. Cap ... is adequate. No more.
>
> >There is very VERY little worth seeing at movie theatres any more at least
> >if you're an adult who has outgrown comic books, superheroes and
> >vampires....
>
> >It's hard to believe that theatres used to show really GOOD films quite
> >regularly....
>
> Well, there are smaller pictures with limited budgets in limited distribution
> that aren't aimed at teenage boys and aren't romantic crap aimed at
> pre-teen girls. Some are foreign, some are domestic. You may have to go
> to specialty theaters or college campuses or go to a theater in a specific
> chain that's also the distributor.
>
> If you don't attend movies that you might enjoy in theaters, well, they
> won't get made.
>
> In the 1930's, horror movies were clearly aimed at adults, not pre-teen
> girls.
>
> I don't see a lot of movies adapted from comic books in theaters, but
> if I'm selective, I can attend the movies that have something to offer
> that I'd find entertaining. I liked the Dark Knight series of Batman
> movies, had to see the sequel set in Chicago and filmed on location here.
> As far as recent Marvel adaptations, Iron Man and The Avengers. I skipped
> Iron Man 2, which sounded stupid. I probably should have seen Captain
> America, since the 1940's nostalgia sounded fun.
>
> I didn't want to see Thor as the guy looked had hair like a surfer dude
> (with bigger muscles, granted) and not a Viking. Besides, I thought the
> Asgaard were consciousness stuck into four foot tall artificial bodies.
Well, THOR is a lousy movie, but the look of him is the least of it's
> I didn't want to see Thor as the guy looked had hair like a surfer dude
> (with bigger muscles, granted) and not a Viking. Besides, I thought the
> Asgaard were consciousness stuck into four foot tall artificial bodies.
problems.
>
> I saw the second Hulk movie because I liked the actor, but the movie
> wasn't very good. I've tried to watch the first Hulk movie on tv
> and simply can't. It's dreadful.
Very much so. I suffered through the entire thing and never figured out
> I saw the second Hulk movie because I liked the actor, but the movie
> wasn't very good. I've tried to watch the first Hulk movie on tv
> and simply can't. It's dreadful.
what was real and what was a delusion.
>
> I'd point out that it's certainly possible to adapt a comic book as a movie
> that entertains adults and teenage boys. It's a matter of not having a
> truly stupid script.
And you could have adapted a perfectly workable script for THOR from the
> I'd point out that it's certainly possible to adapt a comic book as a movie
> that entertains adults and teenage boys. It's a matter of not having a
> truly stupid script.
original comics.
There was plenty of stupid stuff in The Avengers,
> which just dragged the movie down, especially the intramural fighting
> that went on and on and on, but I really don't see why that made it
> more marketable to teenage boys.
>
> I know anim wants to see Iron Man versus SpiderhyphenMan, squish.
flattened Iron Man.
--
NETFLIX is befouling the ends of shows with text & graphics and shrinkage
Stan Brown
May 28, 2012, 8:43:33 PM5/28/12
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On Mon, 28 May 2012 17:05:02 GMT, Hunter wrote:
> Was I imagining things or is movie a sort of "Abraham the Vampire
> Slayer"?
No, and Yes, respectively. It's based on the novel by Seth Grahame-
> Was I imagining things or is movie a sort of "Abraham the Vampire
> Slayer"?
Smith.
--
Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA
http://OakRoadSystems.com
Shikata ga nai...
Adam H. Kerman
May 28, 2012, 9:19:10 PM5/28/12
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anim8rFSK <anim...@cox.net> wrote:
>"Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com> wrote:
>>I don't see a lot of movies adapted from comic books in theaters, but
>>if I'm selective, I can attend the movies that have something to offer
>>that I'd find entertaining. I liked the Dark Knight series of Batman
>>movies, had to see the sequel set in Chicago and filmed on location here.
>>As far as recent Marvel adaptations, Iron Man and The Avengers. I skipped
>>Iron Man 2, which sounded stupid. I probably should have seen Captain
>>America, since the 1940's nostalgia sounded fun.
>Iron Man 2 wasn't nearly as good as 1. Cap ... is adequate. No more.
Thanks.
>"Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com> wrote:
>>I don't see a lot of movies adapted from comic books in theaters, but
>>if I'm selective, I can attend the movies that have something to offer
>>that I'd find entertaining. I liked the Dark Knight series of Batman
>>movies, had to see the sequel set in Chicago and filmed on location here.
>>As far as recent Marvel adaptations, Iron Man and The Avengers. I skipped
>>Iron Man 2, which sounded stupid. I probably should have seen Captain
>>America, since the 1940's nostalgia sounded fun.
>Iron Man 2 wasn't nearly as good as 1. Cap ... is adequate. No more.
>>I didn't want to see Thor as the guy looked had hair like a surfer dude
>>(with bigger muscles, granted) and not a Viking. Besides, I thought the
>>Asgaard were consciousness stuck into four foot tall artificial bodies.
>Well, THOR is a lousy movie, but the look of him is the least of it's
>problems.
middle was fun.
>>I know anim wants to see Iron Man versus SpiderhyphenMan, squish.
>Iron Man should squish Spider-Man just as quickly as Thor *should* have
>flattened Iron Man.
evil plot or just goes out of his way not to kill the hero or not to
supervise his execution.
Thor must have forgotten he has god-like powers. But I did love Hulk
versus Thor. Hulk spoke for me about the idiocy of those fighting scenes.
You know, Loki wasn't much of a villain.
anim8rFSK
May 29, 2012, 12:46:52 AM5/29/12
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In article <jq186e$7e8$3...@news.albasani.net>,
for America, or at least the era, over the years. The whole "Yay, the
Rocketeer is posing in front of the American flag and is about to kick
some Nazi ass" attitude is missing.
the parts in Asgard. I didn't like the Earthbound stuff for a lot of
reasons, not the least of which was Natalie Portman, but I didn't like
the Asgardian stuff either, which took almost nothing from the comics
and was more like the 1980 Flash Gordon or something. Still, I thought
Asgard was better than Earth.
Thor had the same problem that Kevin Sorbo used to complain about on
Hercules; in one scene he's fighting a giant, and in another he's
struggling with a couple of villagers. Either the giant should kill
Hercules instantly, or Hercules should kill a couple of villagers
instantly; the power level differences are just too great.
he's pretty much dead. In the comics they'd have had something like
Loki being afraid of Odin, and Odin barring Loki from killing humans,
but still being enough of a rat bastard that he didn't care if Loki's
non Asgardian minions killed humans.
Also, what was the point of that stupid trap on the helicarrier? They
drop the Hulk 30,000 feet? Who freaking cares? You can't possibly drop
the Hulk far enough to hurt him; he routinely jumps higher than terminal
velocity altitude. Maybe if the thing launched him into orbit ... I
can't imaging that trap would hurt Loki either, and I don't understand
why it depowered Thor for as long as it did. In fact, I'm not really
sure what Loki's plan was on board the helicarrier at all. Or why he's
mad at Earth; you'd think he'd be mad at Asgard. But Joss is such a
good director I didn't care.
him from the comics. The guy at the end that Wesley Wyndam Price is
sucking up to is Thanos, the God of Death. He's probably somebody you
don't want taking notice of you.
"Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com> wrote:
> anim8rFSK <anim...@cox.net> wrote:
> >"Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com> wrote:
>
> >>I don't see a lot of movies adapted from comic books in theaters, but
> >>if I'm selective, I can attend the movies that have something to offer
> >>that I'd find entertaining. I liked the Dark Knight series of Batman
> >>movies, had to see the sequel set in Chicago and filmed on location here.
> >>As far as recent Marvel adaptations, Iron Man and The Avengers. I skipped
> >>Iron Man 2, which sounded stupid. I probably should have seen Captain
> >>America, since the 1940's nostalgia sounded fun.
>
> >Iron Man 2 wasn't nearly as good as 1. Cap ... is adequate. No more.
>
> Thanks.
Cap felt like Johnston, who also directed The Rocketeer, lost his love
> anim8rFSK <anim...@cox.net> wrote:
> >"Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com> wrote:
>
> >>I don't see a lot of movies adapted from comic books in theaters, but
> >>if I'm selective, I can attend the movies that have something to offer
> >>that I'd find entertaining. I liked the Dark Knight series of Batman
> >>movies, had to see the sequel set in Chicago and filmed on location here.
> >>As far as recent Marvel adaptations, Iron Man and The Avengers. I skipped
> >>Iron Man 2, which sounded stupid. I probably should have seen Captain
> >>America, since the 1940's nostalgia sounded fun.
>
> >Iron Man 2 wasn't nearly as good as 1. Cap ... is adequate. No more.
>
> Thanks.
for America, or at least the era, over the years. The whole "Yay, the
Rocketeer is posing in front of the American flag and is about to kick
some Nazi ass" attitude is missing.
>
> >>I didn't want to see Thor as the guy looked had hair like a surfer dude
> >>(with bigger muscles, granted) and not a Viking. Besides, I thought the
> >>Asgaard were consciousness stuck into four foot tall artificial bodies.
>
> >Well, THOR is a lousy movie, but the look of him is the least of it's
> >problems.
>
> I kept hearing the beginning was dull, and the end was dull, but the
> middle was fun.
Sounds like somebody liked the parts on Earth (the middle) better than
> >>I didn't want to see Thor as the guy looked had hair like a surfer dude
> >>(with bigger muscles, granted) and not a Viking. Besides, I thought the
> >>Asgaard were consciousness stuck into four foot tall artificial bodies.
>
> >Well, THOR is a lousy movie, but the look of him is the least of it's
> >problems.
>
> I kept hearing the beginning was dull, and the end was dull, but the
> middle was fun.
the parts in Asgard. I didn't like the Earthbound stuff for a lot of
reasons, not the least of which was Natalie Portman, but I didn't like
the Asgardian stuff either, which took almost nothing from the comics
and was more like the 1980 Flash Gordon or something. Still, I thought
Asgard was better than Earth.
Thor had the same problem that Kevin Sorbo used to complain about on
Hercules; in one scene he's fighting a giant, and in another he's
struggling with a couple of villagers. Either the giant should kill
Hercules instantly, or Hercules should kill a couple of villagers
instantly; the power level differences are just too great.
>
> >>I know anim wants to see Iron Man versus SpiderhyphenMan, squish.
>
> >Iron Man should squish Spider-Man just as quickly as Thor *should* have
> >flattened Iron Man.
>
> Just like the bad guy should always win, except he has to talk about his
> evil plot or just goes out of his way not to kill the hero or not to
> supervise his execution.
Loki meeting with Stark ... I mean, come on, if Loki wants a human dead,
> >>I know anim wants to see Iron Man versus SpiderhyphenMan, squish.
>
> >Iron Man should squish Spider-Man just as quickly as Thor *should* have
> >flattened Iron Man.
>
> Just like the bad guy should always win, except he has to talk about his
> evil plot or just goes out of his way not to kill the hero or not to
> supervise his execution.
he's pretty much dead. In the comics they'd have had something like
Loki being afraid of Odin, and Odin barring Loki from killing humans,
but still being enough of a rat bastard that he didn't care if Loki's
non Asgardian minions killed humans.
Also, what was the point of that stupid trap on the helicarrier? They
drop the Hulk 30,000 feet? Who freaking cares? You can't possibly drop
the Hulk far enough to hurt him; he routinely jumps higher than terminal
velocity altitude. Maybe if the thing launched him into orbit ... I
can't imaging that trap would hurt Loki either, and I don't understand
why it depowered Thor for as long as it did. In fact, I'm not really
sure what Loki's plan was on board the helicarrier at all. Or why he's
mad at Earth; you'd think he'd be mad at Asgard. But Joss is such a
good director I didn't care.
>
> Thor must have forgotten he has god-like powers. But I did love Hulk
> versus Thor. Hulk spoke for me about the idiocy of those fighting scenes.
Hulk smashing rag doll Loki was worth the price of admission.
> Thor must have forgotten he has god-like powers. But I did love Hulk
> versus Thor. Hulk spoke for me about the idiocy of those fighting scenes.
>
> You know, Loki wasn't much of a villain.
It's hard for me to judge what you'd think of Loki if you didn't know
> You know, Loki wasn't much of a villain.
him from the comics. The guy at the end that Wesley Wyndam Price is
sucking up to is Thanos, the God of Death. He's probably somebody you
don't want taking notice of you.
Adam H. Kerman
May 29, 2012, 2:09:06 AM5/29/12
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anim8rFSK <anim...@cox.net> wrote:
>"Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com> wrote:
>>anim8rFSK <anim...@cox.net> wrote:
>>>"Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com> wrote:
>Also, what was the point of that stupid trap on the helicarrier? They
>drop the Hulk 30,000 feet? Who freaking cares? You can't possibly drop
>the Hulk far enough to hurt him; he routinely jumps higher than terminal
>velocity altitude. Maybe if the thing launched him into orbit ... I
>can't imaging that trap would hurt Loki either, and I don't understand
>why it depowered Thor for as long as it did. In fact, I'm not really
>sure what Loki's plan was on board the helicarrier at all. Or why he's
>mad at Earth; you'd think he'd be mad at Asgard. But Joss is such a
>good director I didn't care.
I agree with what you wrote here. Hell, I have no idea what Loki's
>"Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com> wrote:
>>anim8rFSK <anim...@cox.net> wrote:
>>>"Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com> wrote:
>Also, what was the point of that stupid trap on the helicarrier? They
>drop the Hulk 30,000 feet? Who freaking cares? You can't possibly drop
>the Hulk far enough to hurt him; he routinely jumps higher than terminal
>velocity altitude. Maybe if the thing launched him into orbit ... I
>can't imaging that trap would hurt Loki either, and I don't understand
>why it depowered Thor for as long as it did. In fact, I'm not really
>sure what Loki's plan was on board the helicarrier at all. Or why he's
>mad at Earth; you'd think he'd be mad at Asgard. But Joss is such a
>good director I didn't care.
plan was at any point, except he was nuts.
>>Thor must have forgotten he has god-like powers. But I did love Hulk
>>versus Thor. Hulk spoke for me about the idiocy of those fighting scenes.
>Hulk smashing rag doll Loki was worth the price of admission.
>>You know, Loki wasn't much of a villain.
>It's hard for me to judge what you'd think of Loki if you didn't know
>him from the comics.
written better than parts of this movie.
>The guy at the end that Wesley Wyndam Price is sucking up to is Thanos,
>the God of Death. He's probably somebody you don't want taking notice
>of you.
anim8rFSK
May 29, 2012, 3:46:42 AM5/29/12
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In article <jq1p62$6ff$5...@news.albasani.net>,
story about how he got found and mixed up with Thanos that we're not
privy to. Thanos is most definitely nuts; as I recall he's in a one
sided love affair with Lady Death herself or something (or thinks he is)
and woos her by killing, well, anything and everything.
"Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com> wrote:
> anim8rFSK <anim...@cox.net> wrote:
> >"Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com> wrote:
> >>anim8rFSK <anim...@cox.net> wrote:
> >>>"Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com> wrote:
>
> >Also, what was the point of that stupid trap on the helicarrier? They
> >drop the Hulk 30,000 feet? Who freaking cares? You can't possibly drop
> >the Hulk far enough to hurt him; he routinely jumps higher than terminal
> >velocity altitude. Maybe if the thing launched him into orbit ... I
> >can't imaging that trap would hurt Loki either, and I don't understand
> >why it depowered Thor for as long as it did. In fact, I'm not really
> >sure what Loki's plan was on board the helicarrier at all. Or why he's
> >mad at Earth; you'd think he'd be mad at Asgard. But Joss is such a
> >good director I didn't care.
>
> I agree with what you wrote here. Hell, I have no idea what Loki's
> plan was at any point, except he was nuts.
At the end of THOR Loki was lost in the abyss. Presumably there's some
> anim8rFSK <anim...@cox.net> wrote:
> >"Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com> wrote:
> >>anim8rFSK <anim...@cox.net> wrote:
> >>>"Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com> wrote:
>
> >Also, what was the point of that stupid trap on the helicarrier? They
> >drop the Hulk 30,000 feet? Who freaking cares? You can't possibly drop
> >the Hulk far enough to hurt him; he routinely jumps higher than terminal
> >velocity altitude. Maybe if the thing launched him into orbit ... I
> >can't imaging that trap would hurt Loki either, and I don't understand
> >why it depowered Thor for as long as it did. In fact, I'm not really
> >sure what Loki's plan was on board the helicarrier at all. Or why he's
> >mad at Earth; you'd think he'd be mad at Asgard. But Joss is such a
> >good director I didn't care.
>
> I agree with what you wrote here. Hell, I have no idea what Loki's
> plan was at any point, except he was nuts.
story about how he got found and mixed up with Thanos that we're not
privy to. Thanos is most definitely nuts; as I recall he's in a one
sided love affair with Lady Death herself or something (or thinks he is)
and woos her by killing, well, anything and everything.
>
> >>Thor must have forgotten he has god-like powers. But I did love Hulk
> >>versus Thor. Hulk spoke for me about the idiocy of those fighting scenes.
>
> >Hulk smashing rag doll Loki was worth the price of admission.
>
> That too.
>
> >>You know, Loki wasn't much of a villain.
>
> >It's hard for me to judge what you'd think of Loki if you didn't know
> >him from the comics.
>
> I figured the comic has been around for 45 to 50 years and must be
> written better than parts of this movie.
Certainly if you cherry pick. :)
> >>Thor must have forgotten he has god-like powers. But I did love Hulk
> >>versus Thor. Hulk spoke for me about the idiocy of those fighting scenes.
>
> >Hulk smashing rag doll Loki was worth the price of admission.
>
> That too.
>
> >>You know, Loki wasn't much of a villain.
>
> >It's hard for me to judge what you'd think of Loki if you didn't know
> >him from the comics.
>
> I figured the comic has been around for 45 to 50 years and must be
> written better than parts of this movie.
>
> >The guy at the end that Wesley Wyndam Price is sucking up to is Thanos,
> >the God of Death. He's probably somebody you don't want taking notice
> >of you.
>
> Ah. I've already gotten on Darla's bad side, so what's one more?
Thanos makes Angelus seem like a piker.
> >The guy at the end that Wesley Wyndam Price is sucking up to is Thanos,
> >the God of Death. He's probably somebody you don't want taking notice
> >of you.
>
> Ah. I've already gotten on Darla's bad side, so what's one more?
Hunter
May 29, 2012, 3:00:49 PM5/29/12
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Funny thing is that since some people don't pay attention close
enough to scenes to relate them accurately.it may not be "crappy
writing" at all.
Adam H. Kerman
May 29, 2012, 4:13:43 PM5/29/12
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Hunter <buffh...@my-deja.com> wrote:
>On Mon, 28 May 2012 12:39:00 -0400, EGK <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
>>Hunter <buffh...@my-deja.com> (Hunter) >wrote:
>>>No, I must have made a mistake. I have to take my own advice and
>>>rewatch to make sure. I can barely conceive of a Kung Fu Marco Polo, a
>>>movie from last year.
>>>Abraham Lincoln as a Vampire Hunter? I can't deal with it.
>On Mon, 28 May 2012 12:39:00 -0400, EGK <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
>>Hunter <buffh...@my-deja.com> (Hunter) >wrote:
>>>No, I must have made a mistake. I have to take my own advice and
>>>rewatch to make sure. I can barely conceive of a Kung Fu Marco Polo, a
>>>movie from last year.
>>>Abraham Lincoln as a Vampire Hunter? I can't deal with it.
>>Surely given your history of fanwanking every crappy bit of TV writing that
>>comes down the pike, you can do the same for one movie? :D
>>comes down the pike, you can do the same for one movie? :D
>Funny thing is that since some people don't pay attention close
>enough to scenes to relate them accurately.it may not be "crappy
>writing" at all.
Remember: There is no bad writing. It's always the viewer's fault.
>enough to scenes to relate them accurately.it may not be "crappy
>writing" at all.
Hunter has spoken.
William George Ferguson
May 29, 2012, 9:03:54 PM5/29/12
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On Tue, 29 May 2012 06:09:06 +0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com>
that the cage was made for the Hulk, and tells them it wouldn't have
worked. The SHIELD guys say they had already realized that. That's when
Banner tells them about him trying to eat a gun barrel and actually
shooting the bullet into his mout ("...and then the other guy spat it
out."). Everything I've seen in the second Hulk movie and the Avengers
says that the movie Hulk is as indestructible as the comic book Hulk, and
the comic book Hulk has survived the near proximity explosion of a
thermonuclear bomb.
>Maybe if the thing launched him into orbit ... I
>>can't imaging that trap would hurt Loki either, and I don't understand
>>why it depowered Thor for as long as it did. In fact, I'm not really
>>sure what Loki's plan was on board the helicarrier at all. Or why he's
>>mad at Earth; you'd think he'd be mad at Asgard. But Joss is such a
>>good director I didn't care
>
the Helicarrier as a 'prisoner'. The trap was designed to stand up against
hulk-level force, and, of course, Loki ultimately showed that he could walk
out of it any time he wanted, with magic. His plan on the Helicarrier was
to disrupt and drive apart the really powerful trio, and as a major part of
that getting Banner to Hulk uncontrolled. That actually resonates fairly
well with his plan in Avengers #1, which was to trick Thor and Hulk into
fighting each other (Iron Man, Ant-Man and the Wasp were just sucked in as
unintended collateral)
Over-all, Loki wanted to cause chaos and damage on Earth because Thor
wanted to protect Earth. It was a way of hurting his step-brother. If
Thor wasn't proclaiming himself the protector of Earth, then Loki wouldn't
care about Earth (that's also pretty much true in the comics.
--
I have a theory, it could be bunnies
wrote:
>anim8rFSK <anim...@cox.net> wrote:
>>"Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com> wrote:
>>>anim8rFSK <anim...@cox.net> wrote:
>>>>"Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com> wrote:
>
>>Also, what was the point of that stupid trap on the helicarrier? They
>>drop the Hulk 30,000 feet? Who freaking cares? You can't possibly drop
>>the Hulk far enough to hurt him; he routinely jumps higher than terminal
>>velocity altitude.
They actually covered that in the movie. Banner calls them on the fact
>anim8rFSK <anim...@cox.net> wrote:
>>"Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com> wrote:
>>>anim8rFSK <anim...@cox.net> wrote:
>>>>"Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com> wrote:
>
>>Also, what was the point of that stupid trap on the helicarrier? They
>>drop the Hulk 30,000 feet? Who freaking cares? You can't possibly drop
>>the Hulk far enough to hurt him; he routinely jumps higher than terminal
>>velocity altitude.
that the cage was made for the Hulk, and tells them it wouldn't have
worked. The SHIELD guys say they had already realized that. That's when
Banner tells them about him trying to eat a gun barrel and actually
shooting the bullet into his mout ("...and then the other guy spat it
out."). Everything I've seen in the second Hulk movie and the Avengers
says that the movie Hulk is as indestructible as the comic book Hulk, and
the comic book Hulk has survived the near proximity explosion of a
thermonuclear bomb.
>Maybe if the thing launched him into orbit ... I
>>can't imaging that trap would hurt Loki either, and I don't understand
>>why it depowered Thor for as long as it did. In fact, I'm not really
>>sure what Loki's plan was on board the helicarrier at all. Or why he's
>>mad at Earth; you'd think he'd be mad at Asgard. But Joss is such a
>>good director I didn't care
>
>I agree with what you wrote here. Hell, I have no idea what Loki's
>plan was at any point, except he was nuts.
Well, his plan, initially, was to let them capture him and bring him aboard
>plan was at any point, except he was nuts.
the Helicarrier as a 'prisoner'. The trap was designed to stand up against
hulk-level force, and, of course, Loki ultimately showed that he could walk
out of it any time he wanted, with magic. His plan on the Helicarrier was
to disrupt and drive apart the really powerful trio, and as a major part of
that getting Banner to Hulk uncontrolled. That actually resonates fairly
well with his plan in Avengers #1, which was to trick Thor and Hulk into
fighting each other (Iron Man, Ant-Man and the Wasp were just sucked in as
unintended collateral)
Over-all, Loki wanted to cause chaos and damage on Earth because Thor
wanted to protect Earth. It was a way of hurting his step-brother. If
Thor wasn't proclaiming himself the protector of Earth, then Loki wouldn't
care about Earth (that's also pretty much true in the comics.
--
I have a theory, it could be bunnies
William December Starr
May 29, 2012, 11:59:15 PM5/29/12
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In article <9oj7s7h7ieq3ab84e...@4ax.com>,
to have secretly been a clone of the other or something.
-- wds
JRStern <JRS...@foobar.invalid> said:
>> Abraham Lincoln as a Vampire Hunter? I can't deal with it.
>
> And only forty-three more presidents to go in the series.
Forty-two, I think, unless one of the Grover Clevelands turns out
>> Abraham Lincoln as a Vampire Hunter? I can't deal with it.
>
> And only forty-three more presidents to go in the series.
to have secretly been a clone of the other or something.
-- wds
anim8rFSK
May 30, 2012, 12:54:08 AM5/30/12
to
In article <7gqas7hjgi12990vg...@4ax.com>,
though. :D
That's when
> Banner tells them about him trying to eat a gun barrel and actually
> shooting the bullet into his mout ("...and then the other guy spat it
> out."). Everything I've seen in the second Hulk movie and the Avengers
> says that the movie Hulk is as indestructible as the comic book Hulk, and
Yeah, although one difference is, people apparently die from this Hulk's
shenanigans ... is Marvel still keeping up the idiotic conceit that
nobody dies when Hulk smashes?
> the comic book Hulk has survived the near proximity explosion of a
> thermonuclear bomb.
Sometimes. Didn't he get get vaporized in the Maestro version?
Loki's not on stage in the comic version, but in the movie ... he has to
be able to kill Stark with a shrug, and maybe even Banner too.
much a protector of Earth as a guy that dropped by one time.
William George Ferguson <wmgf...@newsguy.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 29 May 2012 06:09:06 +0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com>
> wrote:
>
> >anim8rFSK <anim...@cox.net> wrote:
> >>"Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com> wrote:
> >>>anim8rFSK <anim...@cox.net> wrote:
> >>>>"Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com> wrote:
> >
> >>Also, what was the point of that stupid trap on the helicarrier? They
> >>drop the Hulk 30,000 feet? Who freaking cares? You can't possibly drop
> >>the Hulk far enough to hurt him; he routinely jumps higher than terminal
> >>velocity altitude.
>
> They actually covered that in the movie. Banner calls them on the fact
> that the cage was made for the Hulk, and tells them it wouldn't have
> worked. The SHIELD guys say they had already realized that.
K, I missed that, thanks. Dumb of them to have every considered it
> On Tue, 29 May 2012 06:09:06 +0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com>
> wrote:
>
> >anim8rFSK <anim...@cox.net> wrote:
> >>"Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com> wrote:
> >>>anim8rFSK <anim...@cox.net> wrote:
> >>>>"Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com> wrote:
> >
> >>Also, what was the point of that stupid trap on the helicarrier? They
> >>drop the Hulk 30,000 feet? Who freaking cares? You can't possibly drop
> >>the Hulk far enough to hurt him; he routinely jumps higher than terminal
> >>velocity altitude.
>
> They actually covered that in the movie. Banner calls them on the fact
> that the cage was made for the Hulk, and tells them it wouldn't have
> worked. The SHIELD guys say they had already realized that.
though. :D
That's when
> Banner tells them about him trying to eat a gun barrel and actually
> shooting the bullet into his mout ("...and then the other guy spat it
> out."). Everything I've seen in the second Hulk movie and the Avengers
> says that the movie Hulk is as indestructible as the comic book Hulk, and
shenanigans ... is Marvel still keeping up the idiotic conceit that
nobody dies when Hulk smashes?
> the comic book Hulk has survived the near proximity explosion of a
> thermonuclear bomb.
>
> >Maybe if the thing launched him into orbit ... I
> >>can't imaging that trap would hurt Loki either, and I don't understand
> >>why it depowered Thor for as long as it did. In fact, I'm not really
> >>sure what Loki's plan was on board the helicarrier at all. Or why he's
> >>mad at Earth; you'd think he'd be mad at Asgard. But Joss is such a
> >>good director I didn't care
> >
> >I agree with what you wrote here. Hell, I have no idea what Loki's
> >plan was at any point, except he was nuts.
>
> Well, his plan, initially, was to let them capture him and bring him aboard
> the Helicarrier as a 'prisoner'. The trap was designed to stand up against
> hulk-level force, and, of course, Loki ultimately showed that he could walk
> out of it any time he wanted, with magic. His plan on the Helicarrier was
> to disrupt and drive apart the really powerful trio, and as a major part of
> that getting Banner to Hulk uncontrolled. That actually resonates fairly
> well with his plan in Avengers #1, which was to trick Thor and Hulk into
> fighting each other (Iron Man, Ant-Man and the Wasp were just sucked in as
> unintended collateral)
But given the legions Loki is commanding here, why does he *care*?
> >Maybe if the thing launched him into orbit ... I
> >>can't imaging that trap would hurt Loki either, and I don't understand
> >>why it depowered Thor for as long as it did. In fact, I'm not really
> >>sure what Loki's plan was on board the helicarrier at all. Or why he's
> >>mad at Earth; you'd think he'd be mad at Asgard. But Joss is such a
> >>good director I didn't care
> >
> >I agree with what you wrote here. Hell, I have no idea what Loki's
> >plan was at any point, except he was nuts.
>
> Well, his plan, initially, was to let them capture him and bring him aboard
> the Helicarrier as a 'prisoner'. The trap was designed to stand up against
> hulk-level force, and, of course, Loki ultimately showed that he could walk
> out of it any time he wanted, with magic. His plan on the Helicarrier was
> to disrupt and drive apart the really powerful trio, and as a major part of
> that getting Banner to Hulk uncontrolled. That actually resonates fairly
> well with his plan in Avengers #1, which was to trick Thor and Hulk into
> fighting each other (Iron Man, Ant-Man and the Wasp were just sucked in as
> unintended collateral)
Loki's not on stage in the comic version, but in the movie ... he has to
be able to kill Stark with a shrug, and maybe even Banner too.
>
> Over-all, Loki wanted to cause chaos and damage on Earth because Thor
> wanted to protect Earth. It was a way of hurting his step-brother. If
> Thor wasn't proclaiming himself the protector of Earth, then Loki wouldn't
> care about Earth (that's also pretty much true in the comics.
Which doesn't really play with Bifrost being gone and all; Thor's not so
> Over-all, Loki wanted to cause chaos and damage on Earth because Thor
> wanted to protect Earth. It was a way of hurting his step-brother. If
> Thor wasn't proclaiming himself the protector of Earth, then Loki wouldn't
> care about Earth (that's also pretty much true in the comics.
much a protector of Earth as a guy that dropped by one time.
~consul
May 30, 2012, 12:46:12 PM5/30/12
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'tis on this 5/28/2012 9:11 AM, wrote Dano thus to say:
> "Hunter (Hunter)" wrote in message news:4fc3b01d...@news.optonline.net...
> "Hunter (Hunter)" wrote in message news:4fc3b01d...@news.optonline.net...
> Abraham Lincoln as a Vampire Hunter? I can't deal with it.
> Well then I suppose you didn't care for Bubba Ho-Tep either?
hah! I haven't watched it yet, but I recorded it when I saw the description.
--
"... respect, all good works are not done by only good folk. For here, at the end of all things, we shall do what needs to be done."
--till next time, consul -x- <<poetry.dolphins-cove.com>>
~consul
May 30, 2012, 12:47:33 PM5/30/12
to
'tis on this 5/28/2012 10:05 AM, wrote Hunter (Hunter) thus to say:
> During one of the commercial breaks a promo for a new movie came on.
> It seemed to be about Abraham Lincoln. Then it turned into a movie
> about vampires then back to Lincoln again and then vampires again.
> Then I heard Lincoln and Vampire Hunter I could've swore I heard it
> together in the same sentence.
>
> Was I imagining things or is movie a sort of "Abraham the Vampire
> Slayer"?
I was suprised when I saw the trailor on tv as well. I didn't know if was becoming a movies.
> During one of the commercial breaks a promo for a new movie came on.
> It seemed to be about Abraham Lincoln. Then it turned into a movie
> about vampires then back to Lincoln again and then vampires again.
> Then I heard Lincoln and Vampire Hunter I could've swore I heard it
> together in the same sentence.
>
> Was I imagining things or is movie a sort of "Abraham the Vampire
> Slayer"?
> Abraham Lincoln as a Vampire Hunter? I can't deal with it.
David Johnston
May 30, 2012, 12:49:19 PM5/30/12
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On Tuesday, May 29, 2012 10:54:08 PM UTC-6, anim8rfsk wrote:
> In article <7gqas7hjgi12990vg...@4ax.com>,
> William George Ferguson <wmgf...@newsguy.com> wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 29 May 2012 06:09:06 +0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >anim8rFSK <anim...@cox.net> wrote:
> > >>"Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com> wrote:
> > >>>anim8rFSK <anim...@cox.net> wrote:
> > >>>>"Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >>Also, what was the point of that stupid trap on the helicarrier? They
> > >>drop the Hulk 30,000 feet? Who freaking cares? You can't possibly drop
> > >>the Hulk far enough to hurt him; he routinely jumps higher than terminal
> > >>velocity altitude.
> >
> > They actually covered that in the movie. Banner calls them on the fact
> > that the cage was made for the Hulk, and tells them it wouldn't have
> > worked. The SHIELD guys say they had already realized that.
>
> K, I missed that, thanks. Dumb of them to have every considered it
> though. :D
They were probably working on inadequate information.
> In article <7gqas7hjgi12990vg...@4ax.com>,
> William George Ferguson <wmgf...@newsguy.com> wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 29 May 2012 06:09:06 +0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >anim8rFSK <anim...@cox.net> wrote:
> > >>"Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com> wrote:
> > >>>anim8rFSK <anim...@cox.net> wrote:
> > >>>>"Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >>Also, what was the point of that stupid trap on the helicarrier? They
> > >>drop the Hulk 30,000 feet? Who freaking cares? You can't possibly drop
> > >>the Hulk far enough to hurt him; he routinely jumps higher than terminal
> > >>velocity altitude.
> >
> > They actually covered that in the movie. Banner calls them on the fact
> > that the cage was made for the Hulk, and tells them it wouldn't have
> > worked. The SHIELD guys say they had already realized that.
>
> K, I missed that, thanks. Dumb of them to have every considered it
> though. :D
>
> That's when
> > Banner tells them about him trying to eat a gun barrel and actually
> > shooting the bullet into his mout ("...and then the other guy spat it
> > out."). Everything I've seen in the second Hulk movie and the Avengers
> > says that the movie Hulk is as indestructible as the comic book Hulk, and
>
> Yeah, although one difference is, people apparently die from this Hulk's
> shenanigans ... is Marvel still keeping up the idiotic conceit that
> nobody dies when Hulk smashes?
> > Well, his plan, initially, was to let them capture him and bring him aboard
> > the Helicarrier as a 'prisoner'. The trap was designed to stand up against
> > hulk-level force, and, of course, Loki ultimately showed that he could walk
> > out of it any time he wanted, with magic. His plan on the Helicarrier was
> > to disrupt and drive apart the really powerful trio, and as a major part of
> > that getting Banner to Hulk uncontrolled. That actually resonates fairly
> > well with his plan in Avengers #1, which was to trick Thor and Hulk into
> > fighting each other (Iron Man, Ant-Man and the Wasp were just sucked in as
> > unintended collateral)
>
> But given the legions Loki is commanding here, why does he *care*?
> >
> > Over-all, Loki wanted to cause chaos and damage on Earth because Thor
> > wanted to protect Earth. It was a way of hurting his step-brother. If
> > Thor wasn't proclaiming himself the protector of Earth, then Loki wouldn't
> > care about Earth (that's also pretty much true in the comics.
>
> Which doesn't really play with Bifrost being gone and all; Thor's not so
> much a protector of Earth as a guy that dropped by one time.
David Johnston
May 30, 2012, 12:50:24 PM5/30/12
to
Hunter
May 30, 2012, 4:03:38 PM5/30/12
to
On Mon, 28 May 2012 12:08:14 -0400, Horace LaBadie
<hwlab...@nospam.highstream.net> wrote:
>In article <4fc3b01d...@news.optonline.net>,
> Hunter <buffh...@my-deja.com> (Hunter) wrote:
>
<hwlab...@nospam.highstream.net> wrote:
>In article <4fc3b01d...@news.optonline.net>,
> Hunter <buffh...@my-deja.com> (Hunter) wrote:
>
>> During one of the commercial breaks a promo for a new movie came on.
>> It seemed to be about Abraham Lincoln. Then it turned into a movie
>> about vampires then back to Lincoln again and then vampires again.
>> Then I heard Lincoln and Vampire Hunter I could've swore I heard it
>> together in the same sentence.
>>
>> Was I imagining things or is movie a sort of "Abraham the Vampire
>> Slayer"?
>>
>> It seemed to be about Abraham Lincoln. Then it turned into a movie
>> about vampires then back to Lincoln again and then vampires again.
>> Then I heard Lincoln and Vampire Hunter I could've swore I heard it
>> together in the same sentence.
>>
>> Was I imagining things or is movie a sort of "Abraham the Vampire
>> Slayer"?
>>
>> I am gasted with flabber. Never mind how the movie got made, how did
>> this survive the initial pitch?
>>
>> this survive the initial pitch?
>>
>> No, I must have made a mistake. I have to take my own advice and
>> rewatch to make sure. I can barely conceive of a Kung Fu Marco Polo, a
>> movie from last year.
>>
>> rewatch to make sure. I can barely conceive of a Kung Fu Marco Polo, a
>> movie from last year.
>>
>> Abraham Lincoln as a Vampire Hunter? I can't deal with it.
>>
>>
>> ------>Hunter
>>
>> "No man in the wrong can stand up against
>> a fellow that's in the right and keeps on acomin'."
>>
>> -----William J. McDonald
>> Captain, Texas Rangers from 1891 to 1907
>
>2010 novel, the basis for a new movie.
>>
>> "No man in the wrong can stand up against
>> a fellow that's in the right and keeps on acomin'."
>>
>> -----William J. McDonald
>> Captain, Texas Rangers from 1891 to 1907
>
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Maybe because I am a history buff and had a particular interest in the
American Civil War and Abe Lincoln and a "Buffy the Vampire Slayer"
fan is why I find it so bizzare. I mean there is mixing penutbutter
and choclate and there is mixing vanilla icream with Fried Chicken.
Great on their own but not so mixed togther. I mean from the trailer
it looks like tha guy has superpowers for gods sake. If so how the
helll did John Wilkes Booth sneak up on him. Was he a vampire? I going
to do some reearch on this bizzarre combination.
David Johnston
May 30, 2012, 4:13:08 PM5/30/12
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On Wednesday, May 30, 2012 2:03:38 PM UTC-6, Hunter wrote:
> Maybe because I am a history buff and had a particular interest in the
> American Civil War and Abe Lincoln and a "Buffy the Vampire Slayer"
> fan is why I find it so bizzare. I mean there is mixing penutbutter
> and choclate and there is mixing vanilla icream with Fried Chicken.
> Great on their own but not so mixed togther. I mean from the trailer
> it looks like tha guy has superpowers for gods sake.
Lincoln isn't a bad choice as far that goes. He was reputed to be ridiculously strong.
> Maybe because I am a history buff and had a particular interest in the
> American Civil War and Abe Lincoln and a "Buffy the Vampire Slayer"
> fan is why I find it so bizzare. I mean there is mixing penutbutter
> and choclate and there is mixing vanilla icream with Fried Chicken.
> Great on their own but not so mixed togther. I mean from the trailer
> it looks like tha guy has superpowers for gods sake.
If so how the
> helll did John Wilkes Booth sneak up on him. Was he a vampire?
Arthur Lipscomb
May 31, 2012, 4:10:50 PM5/31/12
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>> Just like the bad guy should always win, except he has to talk about his
>> evil plot or just goes out of his way not to kill the hero or not to
>> supervise his execution.
>
> Loki meeting with Stark ... I mean, come on, if Loki wants a human dead,
> he's pretty much dead. In the comics they'd have had something like
> Loki being afraid of Odin, and Odin barring Loki from killing humans,
> but still being enough of a rat bastard that he didn't care if Loki's
> non Asgardian minions killed humans.
>
> Also, what was the point of that stupid trap on the helicarrier? They
> drop the Hulk 30,000 feet? Who freaking cares?
You can't possibly drop
> the Hulk far enough to hurt him;
possible. Assuming of course you can get Bruce inside of it before he
changes.
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