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School of Rock (season 3 and series finale) (7:30 pm,
Nickelodeon)




Twin Betrayal (movie) (8 pm, Lifetime Channel)

A struggling single mother, in the midst of a fierce custody battle, is
framed for the murder of her wealthy father by her ambitious identical
twin. Jen Lilley stars.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt7197298/ [as "The Duplicate"]

https://www.mylifetime.com/movies/twin-betrayal




Howards End [new to US] (8 pm, Starz)

Previously adapted into a widely acclaimed 1992 movie by the
Merchant-Ivory team, E.M. Forster's novel now comes to the small screen
in a highly anticipated four-part series written by Manchester by the
Sea's Kenneth Lonergan and directed by Hettie Macdonald (Fortitude,
Doctor Who). Hayley Atwell and Philippa Coulthard head the cast as
sisters in early 20th century England, and they're joined by Matthew
MacFayden, Julia Ormond, Tracey Ullman, and Joseph Quinn. The series
already aired on the BBC in the UK, where it earned much praise for the
performances and the surprising modern-day relevance of the
Edwardian-era story.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2577192/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Howards_End_(miniseries)

https://www.rottentomatoes.com/tv/howards_end/s01/

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b09g9nr8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3o4t9ATM6w

http://www.metacritic.com/tv/howards-end [Metacritic score 87]




Killing Eve [new] (8 pm, BBC America)

The next series from Fleabag creator Phoebe Waller-Bridge is very
different from her previous, critically acclaimed comedy. For one thing,
it's not a comedy, for the most part; it's a tense, twisted,
action-filled thriller pitting a normally desk-bound MI5 agent (Sandra
Oh, in her first regular role since leaving Grey's Anatomy), who is
bored with her job, against a female assassin (Jodie Comer, The White
Princess). The eight-episode series (which has already been renewed for
a 2nd season) is based on the books by Luke Jennings.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WxeXWgXtN0

http://www.metacritic.com/tv/killing-eve [Metacritic score 83]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_Eve

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt7016936/

http://www.bbcamerica.com/shows/killing-eve




Aerial Cities [new] (8 pm, Smithsonian Channel)

They tower over hills and lakes, turn the night into a feast of lights,
and lure people in by the millions. These are America's most prominent
cities, all captured from breathtaking heights. From the creators of
Aerial America, this adventure takes you on epic, sky-high journeys over
Las Vegas, Chicago, Seattle, Miami, San Francisco, and Los Angeles.
Celebrate the nation's most treasured and bustling metropolises and the
people who keep them running.

https://www.smithsonianchannel.com/shows/aerial-cities/1005269




Long Island Medium (season 10 spring premiere) (8 pm, TLC)




Saints & Sinners (season 3 premiere) (9 pm, Bounce TV)

http://www.bouncetv.com/show/saints-and-sinners/29035/




Unforgotten [new to US] (9 to 10:30 pm, PBS)

British crime series about a pair of detectives (Nicola Walker, Sanjeev
Bhaskar) who attempt to solve cold cases from ITV. Series one and two
(from 2015 and 2017) will air back-to-back. ITV has ordered series
three, which is currently filming, while according to Deadline in
October 2017 ABC ordered a US remake tentatively titled Suspects. ITV
broadcast each series as six hour-long episodes; these are being shown
by PBS as three 90-minutes episodes (reflecting the removal of ITV's
commercial time), so the two series will be broadcast over six weeks.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt4192812/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unforgotten

https://www.npr.org/sections/monkeysee/2018/04/07/599456443/unforgotten-is-the-detective-show-you-didnt-know-you-needed

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/masterpiece/shows/unforgotten/




Jeremy Wade's Mighty Rivers [new] (9 pm, Animal Planet)

In this new six-part series, Jeremy sets out to examine and explore some
of the planet’s largest waterways with the same immersive style that
made River Monsters a global success.

https://www.animalplanet.com/tv-shows/jeremy-wades-mighty-rivers/




Caribbean Life (season 11 premiere) (9 pm, HGTV)




God Code (documentary) (9-11 pm, History Channel)

Behind locked doors in St. Petersburg, Russia is the Leningrad Codex,
the world’s oldest complete text of the Hebrew Bible. Because of its
ancient origins, it is a purer version of the Bible­containing words and
characters lost in later translations. Timothy Smith, an antiquities
expert, believes he’s found an intricate code hidden within its text,
one that may not show up in later translations. This two-hour special
takes viewers on a journey across the globe to find out if the hidden
code is real. If it is, could this be the actual word of God? A code
written into his own divine work. A master plan for history? The code is
said to point to a diverse variety of historical events from the rise of
Hitler to the threat of North Korea and it may even point to the
location of one of the greatest treasures of all, the lost Arc of the
Covenant.

https://www.history.com/specials/god-code




Aerial Africa [new] (9 pm, Smithsonian Channel)

A flight over Southern Africa is unlike anything else on Earth, offering
breathtaking sights of ancient canyons, modern skyscrapers, and
colliding oceans. This aerial adventure whisks you over some of the
continent's most magnificent natural and manmade wonders, across tawny
savannas teeming with wildlife, and into its deep history and earliest
civilizations. From the Western Cape to the Wild South Coast, Namibia,
Botswana, and Zambia, enjoy a first-class tour of this wild and
wonderful world.

https://www.smithsonianchannel.com/shows/aerial-africa/1004518




Rock & Roll Road Trip With Sammy Hagar (season 3 premiere)
(9 pm, AXS)

http://www.axs.tv/programs/sammy-hagar/




Private Eyes (season 1 finale) (9 pm, Ion)




Real Money [new] (9:30 pm, AXS)

Multi-platinum rock superstar Eddie Money takes viewers into his home
every Sunday night on AXS TV’s all-new original reality series Real
Money. Each episode captures the daily lives of the Money family,
including Eddie, Laurie, his wife of over 30 years; their five kids,
Zach, Joe, Jesse, Dez, and Julian, as they live, laugh, bicker, and
rock! Hilarity and hijinks ensue as Eddie and Laurie struggle to keep
everyone in line, on time, and out of trouble.

http://www.axs.tv/programs/real-money/




Long Lost Family (season 4 premiere) (10 pm, TLC)




Deadly Intelligence [new] (10 pm, Science Channel)

An upcoming Science Channel series will explore the suspicious deaths of
scientific geniuses. Deadly Intelligence (8 x 60 minutes) will take a
closer look at the circumstances surrounding the fatalities to determine
if the deaths of these geniuses were unfortunate mishaps, or if they
were perhaps murdered for knowing too much. The premiere episode will
examine the death of Frank Olson (pictured) — a CIA-employed biological
warfare scientist who died after falling out of the window of a New York
City hotel. While reports note that Olson jumped, his family believes he
was murdered after having developed misgivings about his work, leading
the CIA to kill him.

https://www.sciencechannel.com/tv-shows/deadly-intelligence/




An American Murder Mystery (season 7) (10 pm,
Investigation Discovery)

The death of Kathleen Peterson startled a nation in 2001 when her body
was discovered covered in blood at the foot of a staircase in the
Durham, North Carolina, home she shared with husband Michael Peterson.
Now, nearly 17 years later, the Investigation Discovery network is
revisiting the details of the suspicious acts that led to Kathleen’s
death. A three-night special subtitled "The Staircase."

https://www.investigationdiscovery.com/tv-shows/an-american-murder-mystery-the-staircase/




Ballmastrz: 9009 [new] (midnight, Adult Swim)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4OaHcvzPh8



Comic Book Men (season 7 finale) (12:30 am, AMC)




Tomorrow's advance notes:


AMO [new; complete season 1] (3:01 am, Netflix)

Despite the Philippine government's crackdown on narcotics, high
schooler Joseph expands his drug running while his cop uncle profits
from corruption. 12 episodes. Language?

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-43551255

http://www.interaksyon.com/brillante-mendoza-amo-netflix-narcos-drug-war/

https://www.netflix.com/title/80218962




Mary Kills People (season 2 finale) (8 and 9 pm, two
episodes, Lifetime Channel)



DC's Legends of Tomorrow (season 3 finale) (8 pm, CW)

Renewed for season 4.




Waco: The Longest Siege (documentary) (8 pm, Smithsonian
Channel)

It began as a raid, turned into a 51-day standoff, and ended with the
destruction of a five-story building and 75 people dead. The 1993 Waco
siege of the compound belonging to the Branch Davidians riveted the
nation and drew swarms of media from around the globe. Now, a quarter
century later, we revisit the American tragedy through rarely seen
footage and interviews with local journalists, federal agents, and
former and current members of the sect.

https://www.smithsonianchannel.com/shows/waco-the-longest-siege/0/3458247



Big Beach Builds (season 2 premiere) (9 pm, DIY)



Shotmakers [new] (9 pm, Golf Channel)

An innovative new golf competition where precision shotmaking meets
intense strategy in a fast-paced format, was announced today. Feature
the fun, social experience for which Topgolf is known, blending
entertainment, golf and technology throughout the competition. Airs on
Monday and Tuesday nights for seven episodes concluding Monday, April 30.



Sled Dogs (documentary) (9 pm, Starz)

Sled Dogs is the first documentary to look at what happens at sled dog
operations and the Iditarod once the tourists go home.

https://www.facebook.com/SledDogsFilm/

https://www.facebook.com/SledDogsFilm/



X Company (season 1 finale) (10 pm, Ovation)

Season 2 commences on Monday, May 7.



--Robin

Obveeus

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Apr 8, 2018, 4:20:43 PM4/8/18
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On 4/8/2018 3:54 PM, Robin Miller wrote:
> Killing Eve       [new]         (8 pm, BBC America)
>
> The next series from Fleabag creator Phoebe Waller-Bridge is very
> different from her previous, critically acclaimed comedy. For one thing,
> it's not a comedy, for the most part; it's a tense, twisted,
> action-filled thriller pitting a normally desk-bound MI5 agent (Sandra
> Oh, in her first regular role since leaving Grey's Anatomy), who is
> bored with her job, against a female assassin (Jodie Comer, The White
> Princess). The eight-episode series (which has already been renewed for
> a 2nd season) is based on the books by Luke Jennings.

I intend to sample this.

anim8rfsk

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Apr 8, 2018, 6:45:00 PM4/8/18
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In article <fivabr...@mid.individual.net>,
Robin Miller <robin....@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> DC's Legends of Tomorrow (season 3 finale) (8 pm, CW)
>
> Renewed for season 4.

Thanks for the bad news> --Robin

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anim8rfsk

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Apr 8, 2018, 6:45:46 PM4/8/18
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In article <padtin$c6k$1...@dont-email.me>, Obveeus <Obv...@aol.com>
wrote:
One assumed 'fleabag' is an earlier show she created, and not a
descriptive term?

Capricorne

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Apr 8, 2018, 8:35:07 PM4/8/18
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Robin Miller wrote :
>
>
>
> Unforgotten [new to US] (9 to 10:30 pm, PBS)
>
> British crime series about a pair of detectives (Nicola Walker, Sanjeev
> Bhaskar) who attempt to solve cold cases from ITV. Series one and two (from
> 2015 and 2017) will air back-to-back. ITV has ordered series three, which is
> currently filming, while according to Deadline in October 2017 ABC ordered a
> US remake tentatively titled Suspects. ITV broadcast each series as six
> hour-long episodes; these are being shown by PBS as three 90-minutes episodes
> (reflecting the removal of ITV's commercial time), so the two series will be
> broadcast over six weeks.
>
> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt4192812/
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unforgotten
>
> https://www.npr.org/sections/monkeysee/2018/04/07/599456443/unforgotten-is-the-detective-show-you-didnt-know-you-needed
>
> http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/masterpiece/shows/unforgotten/
>
>
>
>
If you like police procedurals, it is remarkable. Two seasons so far.
A very solid 8.

Ian J. Ball

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Apr 8, 2018, 8:42:35 PM4/8/18
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I'm also intrigued. But I think I will wait for it to show up on one of
the streamers (helps with "binging"!), as I'm too busy with other stuff
right now to bother with a BBCA show.

--
"Three light sabers? Is that overkill? Or just the right amount
of "kill"?" - M-OC, "A Perilous Rescue" (ep. #2.9), LSW:TFA (08-10-2017)

suzeeq

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Apr 8, 2018, 8:47:45 PM4/8/18
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anim8rfsk wrote:
> In article <fivabr...@mid.individual.net>,
> Robin Miller <robin....@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
>> DC's Legends of Tomorrow (season 3 finale) (8 pm, CW)
>>
>> Renewed for season 4.
>
> Thanks for the bad news> --Robin
>
I think it's good news.

Ubiquitous

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Apr 8, 2018, 9:39:01 PM4/8/18
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robin....@invalid.invalid wrote:

>God Code (documentary) (9-11 pm, History Channel)
>Behind locked doors in St. Petersburg, Russia is the Leningrad Codex,
>the world’s oldest complete text of the Hebrew Bible. Because of its
>ancient origins, it is a purer version of the Bible­containing words and
>characters lost in later translations. Timothy Smith, an antiquities
>expert, believes he’s found an intricate code hidden within its text,
>one that may not show up in later translations. This two-hour special
>takes viewers on a journey across the globe to find out if the hidden
>code is real. If it is, could this be the actual word of God? A code
>written into his own divine work. A master plan for history? The code is
>said to point to a diverse variety of historical events from the rise of
>Hitler to the threat of North Korea and it may even point to the
>location of one of the greatest treasures of all, the lost Arc of the
>Covenant.

Wasn't this gawddamn nonsense debunked YEARS ago?

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have to audit liberals & wire tap reporters' phones.

Obveeus

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Apr 8, 2018, 10:26:18 PM4/8/18
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On 4/8/2018 6:45 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
> In article <padtin$c6k$1...@dont-email.me>, Obveeus <Obv...@aol.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On 4/8/2018 3:54 PM, Robin Miller wrote:
>>> Killing Eve       [new]         (8 pm, BBC America)
>>>
>>> The next series from Fleabag creator Phoebe Waller-Bridge is very
>>> different from her previous, critically acclaimed comedy. For one thing,
>>> it's not a comedy, for the most part; it's a tense, twisted,
>>> action-filled thriller pitting a normally desk-bound MI5 agent (Sandra
>>> Oh, in her first regular role since leaving Grey's Anatomy), who is
>>> bored with her job, against a female assassin (Jodie Comer, The White
>>> Princess). The eight-episode series (which has already been renewed for
>>> a 2nd season) is based on the books by Luke Jennings.
>>
>> I intend to sample this.
>
> One assumed 'fleabag' is an earlier show she created, and not a
> descriptive term?

An earlier show she created and starred in...and a descriptive term for
the character. It is on AmazonPrime if you are looking to sample it.

Obveeus

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Apr 8, 2018, 10:27:48 PM4/8/18
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On 4/8/2018 8:42 PM, Ian J. Ball wrote:
> On 2018-04-08 20:20:41 +0000, Obveeus said:
>
>> On 4/8/2018 3:54 PM, Robin Miller wrote:
>>> Killing Eve       [new]         (8 pm, BBC America)
>>>
>>> The next series from Fleabag creator Phoebe Waller-Bridge is very
>>> different from her previous, critically acclaimed comedy. For one
>>> thing, it's not a comedy, for the most part; it's a tense, twisted,
>>> action-filled thriller pitting a normally desk-bound MI5 agent
>>> (Sandra Oh, in her first regular role since leaving Grey's Anatomy),
>>> who is bored with her job, against a female assassin (Jodie Comer,
>>> The White Princess). The eight-episode series (which has already been
>>> renewed for a 2nd season) is based on the books by Luke Jennings.
>>
>> I intend to sample this.
>
> I'm also intrigued. But I think I will wait for it to show up on one of
> the streamers (helps with "binging"!), as I'm too busy with other stuff
> right now to bother with a BBCA show.

If only you had some sort of recording device you could store the 8
episodes with.

Ian J. Ball

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Apr 8, 2018, 10:32:43 PM4/8/18
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And, again, people around here assume that all of us can watch TV 24/7.

Some of us are teaching 5 classes this semester. Right now, I'm not even streaming a 1-hour show off Netflix, and I probably won't start for another week or two.

I'm certainly not going to waste time recording something I'm not going to watch for ages...

Obveeus

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Apr 8, 2018, 10:40:27 PM4/8/18
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I didn't know it took a significant amount of time to record something.

anim8rfsk

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Apr 8, 2018, 11:48:58 PM4/8/18
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In article <paej08$hm2$2...@dont-email.me>, Obveeus <Obv...@aol.com>
Yeah, they shoved an ad down my throat. Pass, thank you.

Robin Miller

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Apr 9, 2018, 1:44:59 AM4/9/18
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I'm recording it. I've seen Nicola Walker in a couple of other shows. I
like that they're short seasons.

--Robin


Robin Miller

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Apr 9, 2018, 1:48:07 AM4/9/18
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Right now I'm recording several shows to watch with my mother when we
have time, and I'm just letting those pile up so that we can watch a
season straight through. These are generally 8-10 episode cable shows.
OTOH, most of the shows I record for myself I watch right away.

--Robin

anim8rfsk

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Apr 9, 2018, 2:03:19 AM4/9/18
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In article <fj0d4k...@mid.individual.net>,
I'm up to 395 episodes of CASH CAB. The ones yet to be recorded
suddenly have descriptions.

Adam H. Kerman

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Apr 9, 2018, 3:17:18 AM4/9/18
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Is it the smart Nicola Walker from Spooks/MI-5, or the self-destructive
idiot from Last Tango in Halifax?

Ian J. Ball

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Apr 9, 2018, 9:42:05 AM4/9/18
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On 2018-04-09 06:03:16 +0000, anim8rfsk said:

> In article <fj0d4k...@mid.individual.net>,
> Robin Miller <robin....@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> Ian J. Ball wrote:
>>> On Sunday, April 8, 2018 at 7:27:48 PM UTC-7, Obveeus wrote:
>>>> On 4/8/2018 8:42 PM, Ian J. Ball wrote:
>>>>> On 2018-04-08 20:20:41 +0000, Obveeus said:
>>>>>> On 4/8/2018 3:54 PM, Robin Miller wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Killing Eve       [new]         (8 pm, BBC America)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I intend to sample this.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm also intrigued. But I think I will wait for it to show up on one of
>>>>> the streamers (helps with "binging"!), as I'm too busy with other stuff
>>>>> right now to bother with a BBCA show.
>>>>
>>>> If only you had some sort of recording device you could store the 8
>>>> episodes with.
>>>
>>> And, again, people around here assume that all of us can watch TV 24/7.
>>>
>>> Some of us are teaching 5 classes this semester. Right now, I'm not even
>>> streaming a 1-hour show off Netflix, and I probably won't start for
>>> another week or two.
>>>
>>> I'm certainly not going to waste time recording something I'm not going
>>> to watch for ages...
>>
>> Right now I'm recording several shows to watch with my mother when we
>> have time, and I'm just letting those pile up so that we can watch a
>> season straight through. These are generally 8-10 episode cable shows.
>> OTOH, most of the shows I record for myself I watch right away.
>>
>> --Robin
>
> I'm up to 395 episodes of CASH CAB. The ones yet to be recorded
> suddenly have descriptions.

Yeah, see, I refuse to do that! ;p

On my end, I'd rather wait for marginal shows like "Killing Eve" or
"Mary Kills People" to show up on a streamer where I can then binge
them at my leisure on a lazy Saturday afternoon. I'd rather reserve the
DVR for stuff I am certain to watch within a week...

suzeeq

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Apr 9, 2018, 10:03:37 AM4/9/18
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I've seen S1, maybe last year. Looking forward to S2 in a few weeks.

suzeeq

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Apr 9, 2018, 10:04:22 AM4/9/18
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The smart one.

Obveeus

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Apr 9, 2018, 10:31:14 AM4/9/18
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On 4/9/2018 9:42 AM, Ian J. Ball wrote:
> On 2018-04-09 06:03:16 +0000, anim8rfsk said:
>
>> In article <fj0d4k...@mid.individual.net>,
>>  Robin Miller <robin....@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>> Ian J. Ball wrote:
>>>> On Sunday, April 8, 2018 at 7:27:48 PM UTC-7, Obveeus wrote:
>>>>> On 4/8/2018 8:42 PM, Ian J. Ball wrote:
>>>>>> On 2018-04-08 20:20:41 +0000, Obveeus said:
>>>>>>> On 4/8/2018 3:54 PM, Robin Miller wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Killing Eve       [new]         (8 pm, BBC America)
You have no tine for TV and yet you can fill your DVR with stuff you
intend to watch within the week?

Obveeus

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Apr 9, 2018, 10:32:39 AM4/9/18
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So then, not the one from COLLATERAL.

anim8rfsk

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Apr 9, 2018, 10:54:25 AM4/9/18
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In article <paftff$o2v$2...@dont-email.me>, Obveeus <Obv...@aol.com>
wrote:
He should be able to tell his DVR to delete CASH CAB within X amount of
time so he always has only the fresher ones.

Obveeus

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Apr 9, 2018, 11:04:50 AM4/9/18
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On 4/9/2018 10:54 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:
> In article <paftff$o2v$2...@dont-email.me>, Obveeus <Obv...@aol.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On 4/9/2018 9:42 AM, Ian J. Ball wrote:
>>> On 2018-04-09 06:03:16 +0000, anim8rfsk said:
>>>
>>>> In article <fj0d4k...@mid.individual.net>,
>>>>  Robin Miller <robin....@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>>> Ian J. Ball wrote:
>>>>>> On Sunday, April 8, 2018 at 7:27:48 PM UTC-7, Obveeus wrote:
>>>>>>> On 4/8/2018 8:42 PM, Ian J. Ball wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 2018-04-08 20:20:41 +0000, Obveeus said:
>>>>>>>>> On 4/8/2018 3:54 PM, Robin Miller wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Killing Eve       [new]         (8 pm, BBC America)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I intend to sample this.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm also intrigued. But I think I will wait for it to show up on
>>>>>>>> one of the streamers (helps with "binging"!), as I'm too busy with
>>>>>>>> other stuff right now to bother with a BBCA show.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If only you had some sort of recording device you could store the 8
>>>>>>> episodes with.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And, again, people around here assume that all of us can watch TV 24/7.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Some of us are teaching 5 classes this semester. Right now, I'm not
>>>>>> even
>>>>>> streaming a 1-hour show off Netflix, and I probably won't start for
>>>>>> another week or two.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm certainly not going to waste time recording something I'm not
>>>>>> going to watch for ages...
>>>>>
>>>>> Right now I'm recording several shows to watch with my mother when we
>>>>> have time, and I'm just letting those pile up so that we can watch a
>>>>> season straight through. These are generally 8-10 episode cable shows.
>>>>> OTOH, most of the shows I record for myself I watch right away.
>>>>>
>>>>> --Robin
>>>>
>>>> I'm up to 395 episodes of CASH CAB.  The ones yet to be recorded
>>>> suddenly have descriptions.
>>>
>>> Yeah, see, I refuse to do that!  ;p
>>>
>>> On my end, I'd rather wait for marginal shows like "Killing Eve" or
>>> "Mary Kills People" to show up on a streamer where I can then binge them
>>> at my leisure on a lazy Saturday afternoon. I'd rather reserve the DVR
>>> for stuff I am certain to watch within a week...
>>
>> You have no tine for TV and yet you can fill your DVR with stuff you
>> intend to watch within the week?
>
> He should be able to tell his DVR to delete CASH CAB within X amount of
> time so he always has only the fresher ones.

If he only puts stuff on the DVR that he intends to watch within the
week AND he has no time to watch TV this week, then shouldn't he delete
all his recordings?

anim8rfsk

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Apr 9, 2018, 11:28:29 AM4/9/18
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In article <pafvef$6g3$1...@dont-email.me>, Obveeus <Obv...@aol.com>
So we're back to "why does he have a DVR at all?"?

Ian J. Ball

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Apr 9, 2018, 11:28:37 AM4/9/18
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On 2018-04-09 14:31:15 +0000, Obveeus said:

> On 4/9/2018 9:42 AM, Ian J. Ball wrote:
>> On 2018-04-09 06:03:16 +0000, anim8rfsk said:
>>
>>> In article <fj0d4k...@mid.individual.net>,
>>>  Robin Miller <robin....@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>> Ian J. Ball wrote:
>>>>> On Sunday, April 8, 2018 at 7:27:48 PM UTC-7, Obveeus wrote:
>>>>>> On 4/8/2018 8:42 PM, Ian J. Ball wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2018-04-08 20:20:41 +0000, Obveeus said:
>>>>>>>> On 4/8/2018 3:54 PM, Robin Miller wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Killing Eve       [new]         (8 pm, BBC America)
You're being deliberately obtuse, Obveeus. I'm not going to bother with
you when you're being stubbornly thick...

Obveeus

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On 4/9/2018 11:28 AM, Ian J. Ball wrote:
> On 2018-04-09 14:31:15 +0000, Obveeus said:
>
>> On 4/9/2018 9:42 AM, Ian J. Ball wrote:
>>> On 2018-04-09 06:03:16 +0000, anim8rfsk said:
>>>
>>>> In article <fj0d4k...@mid.individual.net>,
>>>>  Robin Miller <robin....@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>>> Ian J. Ball wrote:
>>>>>> On Sunday, April 8, 2018 at 7:27:48 PM UTC-7, Obveeus wrote:
>>>>>>> On 4/8/2018 8:42 PM, Ian J. Ball wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 2018-04-08 20:20:41 +0000, Obveeus said:
>>>>>>>>> On 4/8/2018 3:54 PM, Robin Miller wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Killing Eve       [new]         (8 pm, BBC America)
You are the one who set all these strange rules. Most people would do
the opposite and figure out that if they were busy right now that it
would be the perfect time to DVR a show like KILLING EVE so that they
could watch all 8 episodes this summer when they are not busy.

Obveeus

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On 4/9/2018 11:28 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:
> In article <pafvef$6g3$1...@dont-email.me>, Obveeus <Obv...@aol.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On 4/9/2018 10:54 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:
>>> In article <paftff$o2v$2...@dont-email.me>, Obveeus <Obv...@aol.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 4/9/2018 9:42 AM, Ian J. Ball wrote:
>>>>> On 2018-04-09 06:03:16 +0000, anim8rfsk said:
>>>>>
>>>>>> In article <fj0d4k...@mid.individual.net>,
>>>>>>  Robin Miller <robin....@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>> Ian J. Ball wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Sunday, April 8, 2018 at 7:27:48 PM UTC-7, Obveeus wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 4/8/2018 8:42 PM, Ian J. Ball wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 2018-04-08 20:20:41 +0000, Obveeus said:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 4/8/2018 3:54 PM, Robin Miller wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Killing Eve     ÂÂÂ
>>>>>>>>>>>> [new]         (8 pm, BBC America)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I intend to sample this.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'm also intrigued. But I think I will wait for it to show up on
>>>>>>>>>> one of the streamers (helps with "binging"!), as I'm too busy with
>>>>>>>>>> other stuff right now to bother with a BBCA show.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If only you had some sort of recording device you could store the 8
>>>>>>>>> episodes with.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And, again, people around here assume that all of us can watch TV
>>>>>>>> 24/7.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Some of us are teaching 5 classes this semester. Right now, I'm not
>>>>>>>> even
>>>>>>>> streaming a 1-hour show off Netflix, and I probably won't start for
>>>>>>>> another week or two.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm certainly not going to waste time recording something I'm not
>>>>>>>> going to watch for ages...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Right now I'm recording several shows to watch with my mother when we
>>>>>>> have time, and I'm just letting those pile up so that we can watch a
>>>>>>> season straight through. These are generally 8-10 episode cable shows.
>>>>>>> OTOH, most of the shows I record for myself I watch right away.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --Robin
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm up to 395 episodes of CASH CAB.  The ones yet to be recorded
>>>>>> suddenly have descriptions.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yeah, see, I refuse to do that!  ;p
>>>>>
>>>>> On my end, I'd rather wait for marginal shows like "Killing Eve" or
>>>>> "Mary Kills People" to show up on a streamer where I can then binge them
>>>>> at my leisure on a lazy Saturday afternoon. I'd rather reserve the DVR
>>>>> for stuff I am certain to watch within a week...
>>>>
>>>> You have no tine for TV and yet you can fill your DVR with stuff you
>>>> intend to watch within the week?
>>>
>>> He should be able to tell his DVR to delete CASH CAB within X amount of
>>> time so he always has only the fresher ones.
>>
>> If he only puts stuff on the DVR that he intends to watch within the
>> week AND he has no time to watch TV this week, then shouldn't he delete
>> all his recordings?
>
> So we're back to "why does he have a DVR at all?"?

He apparently just uses it for same day viewing...perhaps as a way to
cull commercial content?

anim8rfsk

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In article <pag5l3$gho$3...@dont-email.me>, Obveeus <Obv...@aol.com>
wrote:

> On 4/9/2018 11:28 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:
> > In article <pafvef$6g3$1...@dont-email.me>, Obveeus <Obv...@aol.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> On 4/9/2018 10:54 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:
> >>> In article <paftff$o2v$2...@dont-email.me>, Obveeus <Obv...@aol.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On 4/9/2018 9:42 AM, Ian J. Ball wrote:
> >>>>> On 2018-04-09 06:03:16 +0000, anim8rfsk said:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> In article <fj0d4k...@mid.individual.net>,
> >>>>>> Ő‚Ś Robin Miller <robin....@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> >>>>>>> Ian J. Ball wrote:
> >>>>>>>> On Sunday, April 8, 2018 at 7:27:48 PM UTC-7, Obveeus wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> On 4/8/2018 8:42 PM, Ian J. Ball wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> On 2018-04-08 20:20:41 +0000, Obveeus said:
> >>>>>>>>>>> On 4/8/2018 3:54 PM, Robin Miller wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Killing EveŐńČŘšŐ‚Ś ŐńČŘšŐ‚Ś ŐńČŘšŐ‚Ś ŐńČŘšŐ‚Ś ŐńČŘšŐ‚Ś ŐńČŘšŐ‚Ś
> >>>>>>>>>>>> [new]ŐńČŘšŐ‚Ś ŐńČŘšŐ‚Ś ŐńČŘšŐ‚Ś ŐńČŘšŐ‚Ś ŐńČŘšŐ‚Ś ŐńČŘšŐ‚Ś ŐńČŘšŐ
> >>>>>>>>>>>> ‚Ś ŐńČŘšŐ‚Ś  (8 pm, BBC America)
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> I intend to sample this.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> I'm also intrigued. But I think I will wait for it to show up on
> >>>>>>>>>> one of the streamers (helps with "binging"!), as I'm too busy with
> >>>>>>>>>> other stuff right now to bother with a BBCA show.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> If only you had some sort of recording device you could store the 8
> >>>>>>>>> episodes with.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> And, again, people around here assume that all of us can watch TV
> >>>>>>>> 24/7.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Some of us are teaching 5 classes this semester. Right now, I'm not
> >>>>>>>> even
> >>>>>>>> streaming a 1-hour show off Netflix, and I probably won't start for
> >>>>>>>> another week or two.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I'm certainly not going to waste time recording something I'm not
> >>>>>>>> going to watch for ages...
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Right now I'm recording several shows to watch with my mother when we
> >>>>>>> have time, and I'm just letting those pile up so that we can watch a
> >>>>>>> season straight through. These are generally 8-10 episode cable
> >>>>>>> shows.
> >>>>>>> OTOH, most of the shows I record for myself I watch right away.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> --Robin
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I'm up to 395 episodes of CASH CAB.Ő‚Ś  The ones yet to be recorded
> >>>>>> suddenly have descriptions.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Yeah, see, I refuse to do that!Ő‚Ś  ;p
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On my end, I'd rather wait for marginal shows like "Killing Eve" or
> >>>>> "Mary Kills People" to show up on a streamer where I can then binge
> >>>>> them
> >>>>> at my leisure on a lazy Saturday afternoon. I'd rather reserve the DVR
> >>>>> for stuff I am certain to watch within a week...
> >>>>
> >>>> You have no tine for TV and yet you can fill your DVR with stuff you
> >>>> intend to watch within the week?
> >>>
> >>> He should be able to tell his DVR to delete CASH CAB within X amount of
> >>> time so he always has only the fresher ones.
> >>
> >> If he only puts stuff on the DVR that he intends to watch within the
> >> week AND he has no time to watch TV this week, then shouldn't he delete
> >> all his recordings?
> >
> > So we're back to "why does he have a DVR at all?"?
>
> He apparently just uses it for same day viewing...perhaps as a way to
> cull commercial content?

A friend of mine's wife controlled their VCR, and would never preset it,
'cause she wanted to make sure they were showing the right thing, to
which ends she also wouldn't hit 'record' until, while watching it live,
she confirmed to her satisfaction that it was the show she wanted to
record. So none of their recordings *ever* had the beginning of
anything.

Ian J. Ball

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On Monday, April 9, 2018 at 10:13:18 AM UTC-7, anim8rfsk wrote:

> A friend of mine's wife controlled their VCR, and would never preset it,
> 'cause she wanted to make sure they were showing the right thing, to
> which ends she also wouldn't hit 'record' until, while watching it live,
> she confirmed to her satisfaction that it was the show she wanted to
> record. So none of their recordings *ever* had the beginning of
> anything.

For a while, Time Warner seemed to have tech that would "back-fill" (to the beginning!) recordings that were started late.

Unfortunately, they seemed to have dropped that over the last couple of years... :/

anim8rfsk

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In article <9e05aba5-5238-4979...@googlegroups.com>,
We have that tech but it only goes back as far as to when the DVR was
tuned to the current channel and powered on. So if you're, say,
watching a recording, and it ends, and the live show comes on in
progress, and you hit record, it will back-fill up to an hours worth.
But the buffer empties any time you change the channel or cycle the
power.

Robin Miller

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Apr 9, 2018, 2:22:46 PM4/9/18
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I saw a smart one in River and MI-5. Didn't watch Last Tango, but
Collateral is on my list. She's in a lot of British crime dramas. She's
good.

--Robin

Adam H. Kerman

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Apr 9, 2018, 2:25:33 PM4/9/18
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anim8rfsk <anim...@cox.net> wrote:

>A friend of mine's wife controlled their VCR, and would never preset it,
>'cause she wanted to make sure they were showing the right thing, to
>which ends she also wouldn't hit 'record' until, while watching it live,
>she confirmed to her satisfaction that it was the show she wanted to
>record. So none of their recordings *ever* had the beginning of
>anything.

That's not the way it works! If the channel she wished to record from is
tuned in, then the cached portion of the program can be saved. In HD, at
least 15 minutes is cached, back to the beginning of the start time in
the program guide or at the point at which the channel was tuned in.

The Comcast DVR is difficult about some of these things. It doesn't
allow pre-set recordings at the last moment, especially if it's not set
up more than a minute before it must change channels. If it's too close
to the start of the program, then yeah, I'll tune in the channel first,
then hit record, but that saves the cached portion of the program.

Adam H. Kerman

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Ian J. Ball <ijb...@mac.com> wrote:
That's a possible advantage of Switched Digital Video, actually.

Neill Massello

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anim8rfsk <anim...@cox.net> wrote:

> A friend of mine's wife controlled their VCR, and would never preset it,
> 'cause she wanted to make sure they were showing the right thing, to
> which ends she also wouldn't hit 'record' until, while watching it live,
> she confirmed to her satisfaction that it was the show she wanted to
> record. So none of their recordings *ever* had the beginning of
> anything.

What a wonderful world this will be when STEM is dominated by women!

anim8rfsk

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In article <pagb6q$kvh$2...@dont-email.me>,
"Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com> wrote:

> anim8rfsk <anim...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> >A friend of mine's wife controlled their VCR, and would never preset it,
> >'cause she wanted to make sure they were showing the right thing, to
> >which ends she also wouldn't hit 'record' until, while watching it live,
> >she confirmed to her satisfaction that it was the show she wanted to
> >record. So none of their recordings *ever* had the beginning of
> >anything.
>
> That's not the way it works! If the channel she wished to record from is
> tuned in, then the cached portion of the program can be saved. In HD, at
> least 15 minutes is cached, back to the beginning of the start time in
> the program guide or at the point at which the channel was tuned in.

Please note I said "VCR" - old tech. :)

> The Comcast DVR is difficult about some of these things. It doesn't
> allow pre-set recordings at the last moment, especially if it's not set
> up more than a minute before it must change channels. If it's too close
> to the start of the program, then yeah, I'll tune in the channel first,
> then hit record, but that saves the cached portion of the program.

Adam H. Kerman

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anim8rfsk <anim...@cox.net> wrote:
>"Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com> wrote:
>>anim8rfsk <anim...@cox.net> wrote:

>>>A friend of mine's wife controlled their VCR, and would never preset it,
>>>'cause she wanted to make sure they were showing the right thing, to
>>>which ends she also wouldn't hit 'record' until, while watching it live,
>>>she confirmed to her satisfaction that it was the show she wanted to
>>>record. So none of their recordings *ever* had the beginning of
>>>anything.

>>That's not the way it works! If the channel she wished to record from is
>>tuned in, then the cached portion of the program can be saved. In HD, at
>>least 15 minutes is cached, back to the beginning of the start time in
>>the program guide or at the point at which the channel was tuned in.

>Please note I said "VCR" - old tech. :)

My error. Never mind

Obveeus

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I agree she is good. Also, in COLLATERAL, it isn't that she is stupid,
but rather than lets her heart make the decisions.

Obveeus

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On 4/9/2018 1:13 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:

> A friend of mine's wife controlled their VCR, and would never preset it,
> 'cause she wanted to make sure they were showing the right thing, to
> which ends she also wouldn't hit 'record' until, while watching it live,
> she confirmed to her satisfaction that it was the show she wanted to
> record. So none of their recordings *ever* had the beginning of
> anything.

Why would she need to record the beginning? She already watched the
beginning while determining for herself that it was something that she
wanted to record.

anim8rfsk

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In article <pagh5f$vaa$3...@dont-email.me>, Obveeus <Obv...@aol.com>
wrote:
LOL, 'cause she was recording stuff for other people. Like me.

anim8rfsk

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In article <pagh07$vaa$2...@dont-email.me>, Obveeus <Obv...@aol.com>
wrote:
I watched Collateral over the weekend. Man, Sally Sparrow looks bad.
Who does Walker play?

Obveeus

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On 4/9/2018 4:09 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
> In article <pagh5f$vaa$3...@dont-email.me>, Obveeus <Obv...@aol.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On 4/9/2018 1:13 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
>>
>>> A friend of mine's wife controlled their VCR, and would never preset it,
>>> 'cause she wanted to make sure they were showing the right thing, to
>>> which ends she also wouldn't hit 'record' until, while watching it live,
>>> she confirmed to her satisfaction that it was the show she wanted to
>>> record. So none of their recordings *ever* had the beginning of
>>> anything.
>>
>> Why would she need to record the beginning? She already watched the
>> beginning while determining for herself that it was something that she
>> wanted to record.
>
> LOL, 'cause she was recording stuff for other people. Like me.

Ah, well, that would be annoying.

Obveeus

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On 4/9/2018 4:10 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
> In article <pagh07$vaa$2...@dont-email.me>, Obveeus <Obv...@aol.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On 4/9/2018 2:22 PM, Robin Miller wrote:
>>> Obveeus wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 4/9/2018 10:04 AM, suzeeq wrote:
>>>>> Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>>>>>> Robin Miller  <robin....@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>> Capricorne wrote:
>>>>>>>> Robin Miller wrote :
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Unforgotten       [new to US]          (9 to 10:30 pm, PBS)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> British crime series about a pair of detectives (Nicola Walker,
>>>>>>>>> Sanjeev Bhaskar) who attempt to solve cold cases from ITV. Series
>>>>>>>>> one and two (from 2015 and 2017) will air back-to-back. ITV has
>>>>>>>>> ordered series three, which is currently filming, while according
>>>>>>>>> to Deadline in October 2017 ABC ordered a US remake tentatively
>>>>>>>>> titled Suspects. ITV broadcast each series as six hour-long
>>>>>>>>> episodes; these are being shown by PBS as three 90-minutes
>>>>>>>>> episodes (reflecting the removal of ITV's commercial time), so
>>>>>>>>> the two series will be broadcast over six weeks.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt4192812/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unforgotten
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.npr.org/sections/monkeysee/2018/04/07/599456443/unforgotten-
>>>>>>> is-the-detective-show-you-didnt-know-you-needed
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/masterpiece/shows/unforgotten/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If you like police procedurals, it is remarkable.  Two seasons so
>>>>>>>> far. A very solid 8.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm recording it. I've seen Nicola Walker in a couple of other
>>>>>>> shows. I like that they're short seasons.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is it the smart Nicola Walker from Spooks/MI-5, or the self-destructive
>>>>>> idiot from Last Tango in Halifax?
>>>>>
>>>>> The smart one.
>>>>
>>>> So then, not the one from COLLATERAL.
>>>
>>>
>>> I saw a smart one in River and MI-5. Didn't watch Last Tango, but
>>> Collateral is on my list. She's in a lot of British crime dramas. She's
>>> good.
>>
>> I agree she is good. Also, in COLLATERAL, it isn't that she is stupid,
>> but rather than lets her heart make the decisions.
>
> I watched Collateral over the weekend. Man, Sally Sparrow looks bad.
> Who does Walker play?

She plays the priest.
>

suzeeq

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Obveeus wrote:
>
> On 4/9/2018 10:04 AM, suzeeq wrote:
>> Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>>> Robin Miller <robin....@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>> Capricorne wrote:
>>>>> Robin Miller wrote :
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Unforgotten      [new to US]         (9 to 10:30 pm, PBS)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> British crime series about a pair of detectives (Nicola Walker,
>>>>>> Sanjeev Bhaskar) who attempt to solve cold cases from ITV. Series
>>>>>> one and two (from 2015 and 2017) will air back-to-back. ITV has
>>>>>> ordered series three, which is currently filming, while according
>>>>>> to Deadline in October 2017 ABC ordered a US remake tentatively
>>>>>> titled Suspects. ITV broadcast each series as six hour-long
>>>>>> episodes; these are being shown by PBS as three 90-minutes episodes
>>>>>> (reflecting the removal of ITV's commercial time), so the two
>>>>>> series will be broadcast over six weeks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt4192812/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unforgotten
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>> https://www.npr.org/sections/monkeysee/2018/04/07/599456443/unforgotten-is-the-detective-show-you-didnt-know-you-needed
>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/masterpiece/shows/unforgotten/
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> If you like police procedurals, it is remarkable. Two seasons so
>>>>> far. A very solid 8.
>>>> I'm recording it. I've seen Nicola Walker in a couple of other shows.
>>>> I like that they're short seasons.
>>> Is it the smart Nicola Walker from Spooks/MI-5, or the self-destructive
>>> idiot from Last Tango in Halifax?
>> The smart one.
>
> So then, not the one from COLLATERAL.

I didn't see Collateral. I did watch Last Tango and though her character
is not very bright, she's a good actress. I also saw the one where she
plays the dead partner.

anim8rfsk

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In article <pagio9$edp$4...@dont-email.me>, Obveeus <Obv...@aol.com>
TY

Dimensional Traveler

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VCR, not DVR.

--
Inquiring minds want to know while minds with a self-preservation
instinct are running screaming.

anim8rfsk

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In article <pagm18$uv7$2...@dont-email.me>,
Mmmm, time-shifted ice cream for me!

Dimensional Traveler

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Deliver was time-shifted to before you posted.

Obveeus

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VCR era ice cream might not be all that safe to eat at this point.
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