I Forgot the Real Hell That 1979 TV Was

[W/Q]

Three dozen new shows premiered in early 1979, a staggering amount for a mid-season period on just 3 networks, and virtually all of them sucked. It seems that in the end 3/4 of them kicked the bucket real quick and 2 of the half-dozen that survived barely got through the first month of a second season before getting axed themselves, and only 2 had some longevity, Real People and B.J. and the Bear, which alone should tell you how successful that mid-season was. As a jarring reminder, I don't think it ever got any worse than this, at least not before the reality TV era:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfGZOmcR-nU

[brian henke]

On Tuesday, June 27, 2017 at 11:50:17 AM UTC-4, W/Q wrote:
> Three dozen new shows premiered in early 1979, a staggering amount for a mid-season period on just 3 networks, and virtually all of them sucked. It seems that in the end 3/4 of them kicked the bucket real quick and 2 of the half-dozen that survived barely got through the first month of a second season before getting axed themselves, and only 2 had some longevity, Real People and B.J. and the Bear, which alone should tell you how successful that mid-season was. As a jarring reminder, I don't think it ever got any worse than this, at least not before the reality TV era:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfGZOmcR-nU

Ah, Supertrain...I knew this show was completely and utterly botched!

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[anim8rfsk]

In article <42d27f94-9ce7-46c3...@googlegroups.com>,

brian henke <cincy...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> On Tuesday, June 27, 2017 at 11:50:17 AM UTC-4, W/Q wrote:
> > Three dozen new shows premiered in early 1979, a staggering amount for a
> > mid-season period on just 3 networks, and virtually all of them sucked. It
> > seems that in the end 3/4 of them kicked the bucket real quick and 2 of the
> > half-dozen that survived barely got through the first month of a second
> > season before getting axed themselves, and only 2 had some longevity, Real
> > People and B.J. and the Bear, which alone should tell you how successful
> > that mid-season was. As a jarring reminder, I don't think it ever got any
> > worse than this, at least not before the reality TV era:
> >
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfGZOmcR-nU
>
> Ah, Supertrain...I knew this show was completely and utterly botched!

I tried to watch some of these recently, as a friend is building models
of the train. It's ... amazingly bad.

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[RichA]

On Tuesday, 27 June 2017 11:50:17 UTC-4, W/Q wrote:
> Three dozen new shows premiered in early 1979, a staggering amount for a mid-season period on just 3 networks, and virtually all of them sucked. It seems that in the end 3/4 of them kicked the bucket real quick and 2 of the half-dozen that survived barely got through the first month of a second season before getting axed themselves, and only 2 had some longevity, Real People and B.J. and the Bear, which alone should tell you how successful that mid-season was. As a jarring reminder, I don't think it ever got any worse than this, at least not before the reality TV era:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfGZOmcR-nU

A lot of Jewish actors, a few hold-overs from the early to mid-70's "negro poverty-worship" era, disco, frat houses, eesh! The only decent show of the lot being "The Dukes of Hazzard." But it's pretty clean all that bland pablum lead directly to the overwhelming popularity of violent horror-slashers at the movies starting around the same time.

[Ubiquitous]

i...@email.com wrote:

>Three dozen new shows premiered in early 1979, a staggering amount for a mid-season period on just 3 networks, and virtually all of them sucked. It seems that in the end 3/4 of them kicked the bucket real quick and

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfGZOmcR-nU

Why are you reposting this?

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have to audit liberals & wire tap reporters' phones.

[W/Q]

On Wednesday, June 28, 2017 at 6:15:52 AM UTC-4, Ubiquitous wrote:
> i...@email.com wrote:
>
> >Three dozen new shows premiered in early 1979, a staggering amount for a mid-season period on just 3 networks, and virtually all of them sucked. It seems that in the end 3/4 of them kicked the bucket real quick and
> >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfGZOmcR-nU
>
> Why are you reposting this?

Why are you asking a stupid question?

[Ubiquitous]

i...@email.com wrote:
>On Wednesday, June 28, 2017 at 6:15:52 AM UTC-4, Ubiquitous wrote:
>> i...@email.com wrote:

>> >Three dozen new shows premiered in early 1979, a staggering amount for a mid-season period on just 3 networks, and virtually all of them sucked. It seems that in the end 3/4 of them kicked the bucket real quick a

>> >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfGZOmcR-nU
>>
>> Why are you reposting this?
>
>Why are you asking a stupid question?

Why are you answering my question with another?

[Michael OConnor]

On Wednesday, June 28, 2017 at 2:15:10 AM UTC-4, RichA wrote:
> On Tuesday, 27 June 2017 11:50:17 UTC-4, W/Q wrote:
> > Three dozen new shows premiered in early 1979, a staggering amount for a mid-season period on just 3 networks, and virtually all of them sucked. It seems that in the end 3/4 of them kicked the bucket real quick and 2 of the half-dozen that survived barely got through the first month of a second season before getting axed themselves, and only 2 had some longevity, Real People and B.J. and the Bear, which alone should tell you how successful that mid-season was. As a jarring reminder, I don't think it ever got any worse than this, at least not before the reality TV era:
> >
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfGZOmcR-nU
>

NBC was responsible for a lot of those terrible series; I actually remember watching "Supertrain" and "The Lottery". "Hello Larry" was an awful series and MacLean Stevenson deserved much better than that.

One show that wasn't half-bad that didn't survive the mid-season was "Salvage" with Andy Griffith as the former NASA Engineer who ran a salvage yard and used surplus NASA and military gear to construct his own Apollo-type rocket. I remember the TV movie pilot was up on youtube as of a couple months ago where he used his spacecraft to land on the moon and salvage the junk the astronauts left behind.

[W/Q]

On Wednesday, June 28, 2017 at 9:21:17 AM UTC-4, Ubiquitous wrote:
> i...@email.com wrote:
> >On Wednesday, June 28, 2017 at 6:15:52 AM UTC-4, Ubiquitous wrote:
> >> i...@email.com wrote:
>
> >> >Three dozen new shows premiered in early 1979, a staggering amount for a mid-season period on just 3 networks, and virtually all of them sucked. It seems that in the end 3/4 of them kicked the bucket real quick a
> >> >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfGZOmcR-nU
> >>
> >> Why are you reposting this?
> >
> >Why are you asking a stupid question?
>
> Why are you answering my question with another?

Because you asked a stupid question, and your inability to answer my question demonstrates your own stupidity at explaining yourself. That I even had to explain that only amplifies how stupid you are.

[David Johnston]

On Wednesday, June 28, 2017 at 7:40:31 AM UTC-6, Michael OConnor wrote:
> On Wednesday, June 28, 2017 at 2:15:10 AM UTC-4, RichA wrote:
> > On Tuesday, 27 June 2017 11:50:17 UTC-4, W/Q wrote:
> > > Three dozen new shows premiered in early 1979, a staggering amount for a mid-season period on just 3 networks, and virtually all of them sucked. It seems that in the end 3/4 of them kicked the bucket real quick and 2 of the half-dozen that survived barely got through the first month of a second season before getting axed themselves, and only 2 had some longevity, Real People and B.J. and the Bear, which alone should tell you how successful that mid-season was. As a jarring reminder, I don't think it ever got any worse than this, at least not before the reality TV era:
> > >
> > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfGZOmcR-nU
> >
>
> NBC was responsible for a lot of those terrible series; I actually remember watching "Supertrain" and "The Lottery". "Hello Larry" was an awful series and MacLean Stevenson deserved much better than that.
>
> One show that wasn't half-bad that didn't survive the mid-season was "Salvage" with Andy Griffith as the former NASA Engineer who ran a salvage yard and used surplus NASA and military gear to construct his own Apollo-type rocket.

It's only accurate to say that it wasn't half-bad of the pilot. They had a distinct dearth of good ideas for the follow up epiodes.

[Ian J. Ball]

On 2017-06-28 13:40:24 +0000, Michael OConnor said:

> On Wednesday, June 28, 2017 at 2:15:10 AM UTC-4, RichA wrote:
>> On Tuesday, 27 June 2017 11:50:17 UTC-4, W/Q wrote:
>>
>>> Three dozen new shows premiered in early 1979, a staggering amount for
>>> a mid-season period on just 3 networks, and virtually all of them
>>> sucked. It seems that in the end 3/4 of them kicked the bucket real
>>> quick and 2 of the half-dozen that survived barely got through the
>>> first month of a second season before getting axed themselves, and only
>>> 2 had some longevity, Real People and B.J. and the Bear, which alone
>>> should tell you how successful that mid-season was. As a jarring
>>> reminder, I don't think it ever got any worse than this, at least not
>>> before the reality TV era:
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfGZOmcR-nU
>
> NBC was responsible for a lot of those terrible series; I actually
> remember watching "Supertrain" and "The Lottery". "Hello Larry" was an
> awful series and MacLean Stevenson deserved much better than that.
> One show that wasn't half-bad that didn't survive the mid-season was
> "Salvage" with Andy Griffith

It was actually called "Salavge 1".

> as the former NASA Engineer who ran a salvage yard and used surplus
> NASA and military gear to construct his own Apollo-type rocket. I
> remember the TV movie pilot was up on youtube as of a couple months ago
> where he used his spacecraft to land on the moon and salvage the junk
> the astronauts left behind.

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"A Kingdom Divided Against Itself" (ep. #9), "Containment" (06-21-2016)

[Adam H. Kerman]

Michael OConnor <mpoco...@aol.com> wrote:

>NBC was responsible for a lot of those terrible series; I actually
>remember watching "Supertrain" and "The Lottery". "Hello Larry" was an

>awful series and MacLean Stevenson deserved much better than that. . . .

hi seamus

McLean (spell his name correctly) Stevenson thought he was God's gift
to comedy and didn't understand that he was funny on M*A*S*H only because
he was reading words scripted by Larry Gelbart and had Gary Burghoff
to play off. The public loved Henry Blake; he didn't understand that he
was an actor, not the character he played.

That was already his second or third attempt to star in a sitcom, none
of which caught on with the viewing public.

[David Johnston]

I wouldn't say he was all that funny on MASH either. He wasn't one of the characters with the jokes and wacky antics that were actually funny. Straight man may be an under-rated job in comedy but you still need a funny character for the straight man to work with.

[anim8rfsk]

In article <oj0mlt$f2t$3...@dont-email.me>,

Laurie Hibbard on FOX AFTER BREAKFAST said he was the worst interview
she ever had to put up with, and she had to put up with Rob Schneider
naked and abusing himself.

[Adam H. Kerman]

Perhaps M*A*S*H had too many clowns. Henry was the straight man (everything's
relative) with Hawkeye, but with Radar, he was the clown and Radar was
usually the straight man.

The clowning around Henry did with Radar usually made me smile. The
scripts didn't really have him doing jokes too often that I recall, but
sometimes he'd have funny lines when on the radiophone with central
command, which always told them to expect more casualties and support
wasn't coming. He always did the scene by himself.

My favorite, of course, was Frank. Larry Linville was an extremely
talented character actor.

Anyway, seamus is an idiot if he truly thinks Stevenson "deserved"
a better career after M*A*S*H.

[A Friend]

In article <anim8rfsk-C8A17...@news.easynews.com>,

Oh, I remember that Stevenson interview. This was back in 1995, on the
FX show BREAKFAST TIME, which was broadcast live. Stevenson and
Loretta Swit were on to promote a syndicated special they were hosting
together (there was a corporate tie-in of some sort), and Stevenson was
out of control. He was very angry for some reason and complained about
everything, especially the hovering presence of the show's mascot, Bob
the Puppet. Swit tried hard to cover for Stevenson, but he wasn't
having any of that, either. The interview was cut short. After
commercials, they came back with a shot of Stevenson, in the
background, punching a wall. He died not long after this.

I'd have to agree with Laurie that it was the show's worst interview.
It was certainly the worst I ever saw on there, even worse than the one
with David Cassidy.

[anim8rfsk]

In article <280620171701147225%no...@noway.com>,

Cool. I loved that show, but I never saw this episode. The Road
Warriors did a live segment from Fox Animation while I was there, but
they didn't want any of us actual employees in the way. Fox tampered
and tampered and tampered with it until it was dead.

[junebug]

On Wednesday, June 28, 2017 at 8:40:31 AM UTC-5, Michael OConnor wrote:

> One show that wasn't half-bad that didn't survive the mid-season was "Salvage" with Andy Griffith as the former NASA Engineer who ran a salvage yard and used surplus NASA and military gear to construct his own Apollo-type rocket. I remember the TV movie pilot was up on youtube as of a couple months ago where he used his spacecraft to land on the moon and salvage the junk the astronauts left behind.

Just imagine if Elon Musk were to send a spacecraft to the moon, and salvage all the "junk" left at the Apollo 11 landing site? I wonder how much the flag and plaque would go for at auction?

[A Friend]

In article <ad105515-7e96-484e...@googlegroups.com>,

Oh, that's interesting. The U.S. would almost certainly make a claim,
the way some Titanic survivors did when they began retrieving salvage
from the wreck. (Salvage is supposed to be salvage, finders keepers,
but lawyers.) Then you've got the question about whether anyone has
the right to tamper with an historical site, especially to the extent
of removing the first flag planted on the moon. (I'm not so upset by
the plaque. The plaque was a bullshit move by the Nixon administration
to put Nixon's name on the achievement, which of course he'd had
nothing to do with. The [mis]use of "1969 A.D." was later stated by
William Safire to have been a sop to religion, a way of working God
into the thing.)

[Michael OConnor]

> Just imagine if Elon Musk were to send a spacecraft to the moon, and salvage all the "junk" left at the Apollo 11 landing site? I wonder how much the flag and plaque would go for at auction?

Not to mention if he salvaged the lower lander portion of the LEM that remained and the Moon Buggy and took them apart and started selling individual nuts and bolts and washers and cut the sheet metal and tubes and hoses and wires into one inch pieces. How much would you pay for a one inch piece of metal or a nut from the LEM lander from Apollo 11? Five Thousand dollars?

If I remember the TV show correctly, the Andy Griffith character didn't see the historical or resale value of the Apollo stuff left on the Moon. He didn't consider auctioning off the stuff he brought back, he was more interested in building the rocket just to prove he could do it, and fly in space like he always wanted to do. He just saw the stuff on the moon as junk metal he could melt down and sell for wholesale.

[A Friend]

In article <f529ba97-6df6-41aa...@googlegroups.com>,

Michael OConnor <mpoco...@aol.com> wrote:

> > Just imagine if Elon Musk were to send a spacecraft to the moon, and
> > salvage all the "junk" left at the Apollo 11 landing site? I wonder how
> > much the flag and plaque would go for at auction?
>
> Not to mention if he salvaged the lower lander portion of the LEM that
> remained and the Moon Buggy and took them apart and started selling
> individual nuts and bolts and washers and cut the sheet metal and tubes and
> hoses and wires into one inch pieces. How much would you pay for a one inch
> piece of metal or a nut from the LEM lander from Apollo 11? Five Thousand
> dollars?

Apollo 11 didn't carry a moon buggy.

> If I remember the TV show correctly, the Andy Griffith character didn't see
> the historical or resale value of the Apollo stuff left on the Moon. He
> didn't consider auctioning off the stuff he brought back, he was more
> interested in building the rocket just to prove he could do it, and fly in
> space like he always wanted to do. He just saw the stuff on the moon as junk
> metal he could melt down and sell for wholesale.

Andy just wanted to go to the moon. As things turned out, he couldn't.
(Any resemblance to the works of Robert Heinlein may have been
intentional.) The cost of the mission was covered by the salvage fees
paid by the U.S. to Andy, who'd already decided he was going to sell
only to the U.S. government.

Andy did wind up getting a moon rock from the pilot.

Good movie. The series wasn't up to the concept, unfortunately.

[RichA]

Creepy, when a story appears in the media about a year ago about NASA scavanging junk yards in an attempt to find Saturn V components in order to help them with their planned return to the moon!

[RichA]

On Wednesday, 28 June 2017 14:57:37 UTC-4, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
> David Johnston <davidjohnst...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >On Wednesday, June 28, 2017 at 10:52:48 AM UTC-6, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
> >>Michael OConnor <mpoco...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> >>>NBC was responsible for a lot of those terrible series; I actually
> >>>remember watching "Supertrain" and "The Lottery". "Hello Larry" was an
> >>>awful series and MacLean Stevenson deserved much better than that. . . .
>
> >>hi seamus
>
> >>McLean (spell his name correctly) Stevenson thought he was God's gift
> >>to comedy and didn't understand that he was funny on M*A*S*H only because
> >>he was reading words scripted by Larry Gelbart and had Gary Burghoff
> >>to play off. The public loved Henry Blake; he didn't understand that he
> >>was an actor, not the character he played.
>
> >>That was already his second or third attempt to star in a sitcom, none
> >>of which caught on with the viewing public.
>
> >I wouldn't say he was all that funny on MASH either. He wasn't one of
> >the characters with the jokes and wacky antics that were actually funny.
> >Straight man may be an under-rated job in comedy but you still need a
> >funny character for the straight man to work with.
>
> Perhaps M*A*S*H had too many clowns.

M.A.S.H.'s problem was that it went on for about 3-4 years too long. The actors were clearly aging and their delivery was horribly forced near the end. Jamie Farr was a case in point.

[Adam H. Kerman]

Jamie Farr was ALWAYS too old, and looked it. For fuck's sake, he was a
genuine Korean War veteran.

[Bill Anderson]

On 6/28/2017 8:43 PM, A Friend wrote:
> In article <f529ba97-6df6-41aa...@googlegroups.com>,
> Michael OConnor <mpoco...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>>> Just imagine if Elon Musk were to send a spacecraft to the moon, and
>>> salvage all the "junk" left at the Apollo 11 landing site? I wonder how
>>> much the flag and plaque would go for at auction?
>>
>> Not to mention if he salvaged the lower lander portion of the LEM that
>> remained and the Moon Buggy and took them apart and started selling
>> individual nuts and bolts and washers and cut the sheet metal and tubes and
>> hoses and wires into one inch pieces. How much would you pay for a one inch
>> piece of metal or a nut from the LEM lander from Apollo 11? Five Thousand
>> dollars?
>
>
> Apollo 11 didn't carry a moon buggy.

Nobody said it did. The Moon Buggy was the LRV (Lunar Roving Vehicle).
There were LRVs on three moon flights, Apollo 15-17. The LEM was the
Lunar Excursion Module, later called LM (Lunar Module), which was the
vehicle that landed on the moon. LMs had two stages -- descent and
ascent. The six descent stages that set down on the moon are basically
still right where they were when they landed, and could be salvaged.
The six ascent stages crashed into the moon after they'd delivered their
passengers back to the Command Service Module waiting for them in Lunar
orbit. We know the location of the wreckage of four of them, but if you
want to find the other two, you're on your own.

--
Bill Anderson

I am the Mighty Favog

[anim8rfsk]

In article <280620172143226558%no...@noway.com>,

A Friend <no...@noway.com> wrote:

> In article <f529ba97-6df6-41aa...@googlegroups.com>,
> Michael OConnor <mpoco...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > > Just imagine if Elon Musk were to send a spacecraft to the moon, and
> > > salvage all the "junk" left at the Apollo 11 landing site? I wonder how
> > > much the flag and plaque would go for at auction?
> >
> > Not to mention if he salvaged the lower lander portion of the LEM that
> > remained and the Moon Buggy and took them apart and started selling
> > individual nuts and bolts and washers and cut the sheet metal and tubes and
> > hoses and wires into one inch pieces. How much would you pay for a one
> > inch
> > piece of metal or a nut from the LEM lander from Apollo 11? Five Thousand
> > dollars?
>
>
> Apollo 11 didn't carry a moon buggy.

Watching SALVAGE now. TV Announcer says the lunar rover at Serenity
base is worth $1.2m. The map looks to say "Apollo 15" I think we
better assume they're not paying a lot of attention to detail here. :D

Oh dear God. As the Vulture approaches the Moon, the TV anchor says the
ship is within one half hour of Serenity base, the landing site of the
fifth Apollo moon flight. I ... can't imagine how they're counting.

> > If I remember the TV show correctly, the Andy Griffith character didn't see
> > the historical or resale value of the Apollo stuff left on the Moon. He
> > didn't consider auctioning off the stuff he brought back, he was more
> > interested in building the rocket just to prove he could do it, and fly in
> > space like he always wanted to do. He just saw the stuff on the moon as
> > junk
> > metal he could melt down and sell for wholesale.

He's a liar and con man. He's faking antiquities to swindle his
clients. Makes it kind of hard to root for him.

His goal seems to be entirely financial:

"I wanna build a spaceship, go to the moon, salvage all the junk that's
up there, bring it back, sell it."

"I'm in the scrap business, and I want to salvage the moon."

It's the big score, the one that will sweep the industry.

His spaceship uses the same constant 1G acceleration principle that TOM
SWIFT was using in the 1950s, although they claim to have invented it.
:)

They have an expandable fuel tank so they use half the fuel getting to
the moon, use the empty part of the fuel tank to fill with salvage, and
use the other half of the fuel to come home. This of course assumes the
salvage is the same mass as the fuel ...

> Andy just wanted to go to the moon. As things turned out, he couldn't.

He does seem to be awfully bummed he's not going.

> (Any resemblance to the works of Robert Heinlein may have been
> intentional.) The cost of the mission was covered by the salvage fees
> paid by the U.S. to Andy, who'd already decided he was going to sell
> only to the U.S. government.

Lt. Martin Quirk tells his superiors that we should buy the stuff to
keep it out of the hands of the godless Ruskies, because them getting
their hands on lunar rover tech would just be disastrous (rolls eyes)/

> Andy did wind up getting a moon rock from the pilot.
>
> Good movie. The series wasn't up to the concept, unfortunately.

The Moon stuff is obviously shot on a small museum display somewhere.

The Vulture ... can apparently levitate. And fly horizontally. I have
*no* idea how. :)

You used to be able to get model kits of it, but they don't seem to be
available any more.

The Hollywood street where they shoot the scene with Peter Jason as a
jerk actor who insists on doing his own stunts is the same location
where they'd later shoot an AIRWOLF sequence with the exact same plot!

The movie ends with a councilman from upstate asking them to go to the
North Pole and bring back an iceberg to alleviate drought ... I have
absolutely no idea in the world how having a private little spaceship
would possibly facilitate that.

[anim8rfsk]

In article <oj206l$hi4$1...@dont-email.me>,

"Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com> wrote:

Looks like he was 38 when he started on M*A*S*H.

[A Friend]

In article <-bOdnQ1j7YNtA8nE...@giganews.com>, Bill

Anderson <billand...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> On 6/28/2017 8:43 PM, A Friend wrote:
> > In article <f529ba97-6df6-41aa...@googlegroups.com>,
> > Michael OConnor <mpoco...@aol.com> wrote:
> >
> >>> Just imagine if Elon Musk were to send a spacecraft to the moon, and
> >>> salvage all the "junk" left at the Apollo 11 landing site? I wonder how
> >>> much the flag and plaque would go for at auction?
> >>
> >> Not to mention if he salvaged the lower lander portion of the LEM that
> >> remained and the Moon Buggy and took them apart and started selling
> >> individual nuts and bolts and washers and cut the sheet metal and tubes and
> >> hoses and wires into one inch pieces. How much would you pay for a one
> >> inch
> >> piece of metal or a nut from the LEM lander from Apollo 11? Five Thousand
> >> dollars?
> >
> >
> > Apollo 11 didn't carry a moon buggy.
>
> Nobody said it did.

He did. "Just imagine if Elon Musk were to send a spacecraft to the

moon, and salvage all the 'junk' left at the Apollo 11 landing site? I
wonder how much the flag and plaque would go for at auction? Not to
mention if he salvaged the lower lander portion of the LEM that

remained and the Moon Buggy and took them apart ... "

[A Friend]

In article <anim8rfsk-FF8DB...@news.easynews.com>,

anim8rfsk <anim...@cox.net> wrote:

> The movie ends with a councilman from upstate asking them to go to the
> North Pole and bring back an iceberg to alleviate drought ... I have
> absolutely no idea in the world how having a private little spaceship
> would possibly facilitate that.

Thanks for all of that. It's been some time since I've seen it. Andy
was more mercenary than I'd remembered.

[Ubiquitous]

no...@noway.com wrote:

>anim8rfsk <anim...@cox.net> wrote:

>> Laurie Hibbard on FOX AFTER BREAKFAST said he was the worst interview
>> she ever had to put up with, and she had to put up with Rob Schneider
>> naked and abusing himself.
>
>Oh, I remember that Stevenson interview. This was back in 1995, on the
>FX show BREAKFAST TIME, which was broadcast live. Stevenson and
>Loretta Swit were on to promote a syndicated special they were hosting
>together (there was a corporate tie-in of some sort), and Stevenson was
>out of control. He was very angry for some reason and complained about
>everything, especially the hovering presence of the show's mascot, Bob
>the Puppet. Swit tried hard to cover for Stevenson, but he wasn't
>having any of that, either. The interview was cut short. After
>commercials, they came back with a shot of Stevenson, in the
>background, punching a wall. He died not long after this.

Did the wall fall on him, killing him?

[Ubiquitous]

I never knew Jamie Farr was in the Korean War, but I remember the guy who
played RADAR had a withered hand and always hid it from the camera.

[anim8rfsk]

In article <290620170454416126%no...@noway.com>,

Yeah, me too. I *think* the idea was he was supposed to soften across
the movie and be more lovable at the end, but it didn't play very well.
One *huge* problem was that he lied to the government about his fuel
source, which was an incredibly powerful high explosive (as well as
poison gas). If he'd crashed the Vulture landing it in Los Angeles he'd
have killed hundreds or thousands ... if he'd crashed it on take off
with a full tank he'd have probably killed millions. They dispatched
fighter jets to blow it out of the sky while it was still over the
ocean, and they really really should have.

I don't recall the series at all except for snippets like for some
reason Trish Stewart had doubled her mass since the movie. I may dig in
and see if that iceberg they mentioned is one of the episodes.

[shawn]

Oh I remember that. Don't think I saw more than an episode or two, but
I do think I saw the pilot.

[Bill Anderson]

I shoulda read more and written less.