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MIKE BLAKE

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Jan 1, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/1/96
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GF> I don't dare mention "ROFL" coming from apas.

Well, Gary, we're probably better off that a lot of that stuff
hasn't come over. Imagine the wasted bandwidth if the concept of
messages that said just "RAE, BNC" caught on in newsgroups....

___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12

David E Romm

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Jan 2, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/2/96
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In article <8B80564.1ECB...@enest.com>, mike....@enest.com
(MIKE BLAKE) wrote:

That's what e-mail is for. (He says on a newsgroup and not in e-mail...)
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Gary Farber

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Jan 2, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/2/96
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MIKE BLAKE (mike....@enest.com) wrote:
: GF> I don't dare mention "ROFL" coming from apas.

: Well, Gary, we're probably better off that a lot of that stuff
: hasn't come over. Imagine the wasted bandwidth if the concept of
: messages that said just "RAE, BNC" caught on in newsgroups....

You don't read the right newsgroups, with the standard AOL usage:

"Me too!"
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-- Gary Farber gfa...@panix.com
Copyright 1995 Brooklyn, NY, USA

Dr Gafia

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Jan 3, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/3/96
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(MIKE BLAKE) writes:

>Well, Gary, we're probably better off that a lot of that stuff
> hasn't come over. Imagine the wasted bandwidth if the concept of
> messages that said just "RAE, BNC" caught on in newsgroups....

The net equivalent is to quote EVERYTHING said on the thread over the past
three months just to add the line: "What he said."

--rich brown

lmac...@greenheart.com

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Jan 3, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/3/96
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What he said.

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Loren J. MacGregor -- lmac...@greenheart.com
--Technical & Fictional Writing and Editing--

David E Romm

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Jan 3, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/3/96
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In article <4cdkp6$k...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, drg...@aol.com (Dr Gafia) wrote:

> In article <8B80564.1ECB...@enest.com>, mike....@enest.com
> (MIKE BLAKE) writes:
>
> >Well, Gary, we're probably better off that a lot of that stuff
> > hasn't come over. Imagine the wasted bandwidth if the concept of
> > messages that said just "RAE, BNC" caught on in newsgroups....
>
> The net equivalent is to quote EVERYTHING said on the thread over the past
> three months just to add the line: "What he said."

What he said.


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http://www.winternet.com/~romm

Er, raebnc

Arthur Hlavaty

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Jan 4, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/4/96
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MIKE BLAKE (mike....@enest.com) wrote:
: # N3

: I often wonder how different apas would have been if we could have
: as easily inserted large chunks of what we were writing mailing
: comments on with just a few keystrokes.

: Back then, I'd get a mailing comment that said "Mike Blake:
: you're wrong, I never said that." And have to go back to the
: previous mailing to find I wrote "Joe Phan: You're saying it's not
: true?" and go to the mailing before =that= to see Joe tell me
: "Mike: I totally disagree." Argh.

: The alternative, to write a summary into the comment, could be
: slanted towards what I wanted to say in reply. Easy quoting might
: be useful, but I can just see people going the "net quivalent"
: route, and running minac of MCs composed mostly of quotations....

What he said.

Excuse me, I mean:
I remember when I first got into apas (late 70s) thinking how that was
the one thing missing from apas.

If the net kills apas, as I suspect it's doing, that'll be a major reason
why.

--
Arthur D. Hlavaty hla...@panix.com
Church of the SuperGenius In Wile E. We Trust
\\\ E-zine available on request. ///

MIKE BLAKE

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Jan 4, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/4/96
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The mad Rommanian quipped:

DER> What he said.

I knew you were going to say that.

DER> Er, raebnc

Ook. HHOK. etc.

MIKE BLAKE

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Jan 4, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/4/96
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# N3

me> Imagine the wasted bandwidth if the concept of messages
me> that said just "RAE, BNC" caught on in newsgroups....

Dr.G> The net equivalent is to quote EVERYTHING said on the
Dr.G> thread over the past three months just to add the line:
Dr.G> "What he said."

You are right, of course. Which wastes more bandwidth and drive
space than lots of RAE, BNC messages.

Dr Gafia

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Jan 5, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/5/96
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In article <lB15w8m9...@netcom.com>, abos...@netcom.com (Alan
Bostick) writes:

>Perhaps it would be more accurate to say that Art Widner founded the N3F
>on Damon Knight's inspiration. Knight wrote a fanzine article; Widner
>did the real work.
>
>(Knight then went on to found SFWA, which I suppose one could describe as
>life imitating Art.)

Oog.

I was going to give you a citation on being fanhistorically inaccurate.
But then the pun justified all.

--rich brown a.k.a. DrGafia

Ken Josenhans

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Jan 8, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/8/96
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MIKE BLAKE (mike....@enest.com) wrote:

> I often wonder how different apas would have been if we could have
> as easily inserted large chunks of what we were writing mailing
> comments on with just a few keystrokes.

"Would have been?" Heh. ALPS still exists; next deadline January 10.

> Back then, I'd get a mailing comment that said "Mike Blake:
> you're wrong, I never said that." And have to go back to the
> previous mailing to find I wrote "Joe Phan: You're saying it's not
> true?" and go to the mailing before =that= to see Joe tell me
> "Mike: I totally disagree." Argh.

Way back in my neohood, Fred Haskell impressed upon me the importance
of providing a context for mailing comments, so that the apazine
could be read as a standalone piece, without the need to refer back
to previous mailings.

-- Ken Josenhans
k...@netsun.cl.msu.edu

Dr Gafia

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Jan 12, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/12/96
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In article <4cs6ip$1a...@msunews.cl.msu.edu>, k...@netsun.cl.msu.edu (Ken
Josenhans) writes:

>Way back in my neohood, Fred Haskell impressed upon me the importance
>of providing a context for mailing comments, so that the apazine
>could be read as a standalone piece, without the need to refer back
>to previous mailings.

Absolutely; a good MC should read like a mini-essay.

--rich brown

Dr Gafia

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Jan 12, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/12/96
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In article <DKz1t...@world.std.com>, kee...@world.std.com (Morris M.
Keesan) writes:
>Dr Gafia, Gary Farber, Morris M. Keesan, Gary Farber, and Avedon Carol
wrote:
>>>: >: Anyone remember that sign for the exit off the Baltimore beltway
>>>: >: that said:
>>>: >: FUTURE
>>>: >
>>>: >I think we took that exit.
>>>: >
>>>: >Where do we go now?
>>>
>>>: Back.
>>>
>>>It's against the law. I think there's a sign.
>>
>>No. Back to the Future's a film by Robert Zemekis.
>
>But watch out. Backing up to the Future can cause severe tired damage.

Well, that's understandable. The original film made plenty of money for
the backers, but the sequels didn't do as well and caused them real
headaches. I can see it. Even with both hands over my eyes and my eyes
closed REAL TIGHT.

--rich brown a.k.a. DrGafia

Andi Shechter

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Jan 15, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/15/96
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Sure, nobody wants to just see rows and rows of RAEBNC staring at them.

Stu Shiffman
ros...@halcyon.com

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Andi - Ros...@Halcyon.com

Gary Farber

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Jan 16, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/16/96
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Andi Shechter (ros...@halcyon.com) wrote:
: Sure, nobody wants to just see rows and rows of RAEBNC staring at them.

You *know* what someone (or more) is going to post as a response to this,
of course?
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-- Gary Farber Middlemiss gfa...@panix.com
Copyright 1996 for DUFF Brooklyn, NY, USA

David E Romm

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Jan 16, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/16/96
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In article <4dh0s6$h...@panix2.panix.com>, gfa...@panix.com (Gary Farber) wrote:

> Andi Shechter (ros...@halcyon.com) wrote:
> : Sure, nobody wants to just see rows and rows of RAEBNC staring at them.
>
> You *know* what someone (or more) is going to post as a response to this,
> of course?

That's what she gets for not appending a HHOK.


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Dr Gafia

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Jan 19, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/19/96
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In article <4dh0s6$h...@panix2.panix.com>, gfa...@panix.com (Gary Farber)
writes:

>Andi Shechter (ros...@halcyon.com) wrote:
>: Sure, nobody wants to just see rows and rows of RAEBNC staring at them.
>
>You *know* what someone (or more) is going to post as a response to this,

>of course?

What he said.

RAEBNC.

--rich brown

)right?(

Fred A Levy-Haskell

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Jan 19, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/19/96
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ros...@halcyon.com (Andi Shechter) writes:

>In article <4d63o3$i...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, drg...@aol.com (Dr Gafia) wrote:

>> In article <4cs6ip$1a...@msunews.cl.msu.edu>, k...@netsun.cl.msu.edu (Ken
>> Josenhans) writes:
>>
>> >Way back in my neohood, Fred Haskell impressed upon me the importance
>> >of providing a context for mailing comments, so that the apazine
>> >could be read as a standalone piece, without the need to refer back
>> >to previous mailings.

*blush* I peek my nose in to r.a.sf.f for the first time in ages, and
get a BINGO on the egoscan! Wowie zowie!

(I believe this, Ken, although I don't remember it. Did I do it by example,
or did we sit and have an explicit discussion about it?)

>> Absolutely; a good MC should read like a mini-essay.
>>
>> --rich brown

Yeah, rich, that'd be the hippest. Unfortunately, I'm (lazy? not very good
at paraphrasing? whatever...), so I just quoted the context and then
replied. I've always admired people who could actually paraphrase well
and generate MC's that read like mini-essays.

>Sure, nobody wants to just see rows and rows of RAEBNC staring at them.
>

>Stu Shiffman

OOK OOK SLOBBER DROOL
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fa...@maroon.tc.umn.edu | -- Cole Porter

Fred A Levy-Haskell

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Jan 19, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/19/96
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gfa...@panix.com (Gary Farber) writes:

>Stu Shiffman (ros...@halcyon.com) wrote:
>: Sure, nobody wants to just see rows and rows of RAEBNC staring at them.

>You *know* what someone (or more) is going to post as a response to this,
>of course?

Yep. "'"'"'"'"'"'Your distinction between acoustic and electric....

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