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Noctur...@yahoo.com

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Jan 22, 2006, 1:07:21 AM1/22/06
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Is the food in con-suites usually free, or do you have to buy a 'food
pass' to get it? Does it depend on the con, or where it's being held,
or the people who run it?

Joe Ellis

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Jan 22, 2006, 1:31:02 AM1/22/06
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Matthew B. Tepper

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Jan 22, 2006, 1:58:43 AM1/22/06
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Noctur...@yahoo.com appears to have caused the following letters to be
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> Is the food in con-suites usually free, or do you have to buy a 'food
> pass' to get it? Does it depend on the con, or where it's being held,
> or the people who run it?

If it's a real, fan-run science fiction convention (the abbreviation you
use, while invented by a much-loved eofan, generally is disliked), all you
have to do is wear your membership badge (another feature of real, fan-run
cons; it's a membership, not a "ticket") and stroll into the con suite.
Obviously, be sensible and considerate of others -- don't scarf down
everything in site. And if the food that's there happens to be what you
like, consider it a bonus.

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Dorothy J Heydt

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Jan 22, 2006, 2:04:44 AM1/22/06
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It does depend on the con, but usually the munchies are available
to whoever wanders by.

But the terminology can vary. At DunDraCon (not an SFcon, but a
small regional RPG con held in Northern California) the con suite
is one of two suites on the top floor reserved for the con
committee and used for processing of secure data (like, the
program that determines who gets into what game) and for the
committee to meet and/or collapse in. I'm on the committee and I
can go from the beginning to the end of the con without setting
foot there, unless I have to run a message. The attendees are
not supposed to know the place even exists. And generally
there's no food in it anyway.

So ask experienced people at the con, or follow your nose and see
what others are doing.

Dorothy J. Heydt
Albany, California
djh...@kithrup.com

Tom Galloway

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Jan 22, 2006, 2:30:47 AM1/22/06
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In article <Xns9752E997F4...@207.217.125.201>,

Matthew B. Tepper <oy兀earthlink.net> wrote:
>Noctur...@yahoo.com appears to have caused the following letters to be
>> Is the food in con-suites usually free, or do you have to buy a 'food
>> pass' to get it? Does it depend on the con, or where it's being held,
>> or the people who run it?
>If it's a real, fan-run science fiction convention (the abbreviation you
>use, while invented by a much-loved eofan, generally is disliked), all you
>have to do is wear your membership badge (another feature of real, fan-run
>cons; it's a membership, not a "ticket") and stroll into the con suite.

It can vary slightly within a real fan-run sf con; I seem to recall a Midwest
con or two that at least used to have "party munchies" and soft drinks be
free, but charge a fairly small amount for a hot dog or alcoholic beverage.

tyg t...@panix.com


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Nancy Lebovitz

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Jan 22, 2006, 8:30:36 AM1/22/06
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In article <dqvcb7$aaa$1...@reader2.panix.com>,
And I've seen the intermediate case--the food is free, but there's a jar for
contributions.

Imho, the amount of protein in the con suite is a good measure of the
health of the economy.
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Dan Kimmel

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Jan 22, 2006, 9:40:54 AM1/22/06
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"Tom Galloway" <t...@panix.com> wrote in message
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When I went to the Worldcon in Chicago in 2000 I was stunned to find free
beer in the con suite, something I had never seen at an East Coast con.

It was handled incredibly responsibly: everyone (and that meant EVERYONE)
had to show both their badge and proof of age. Some people grumbled about
having to go back to their rooms to fetch an ID but my feeling was it was
FREE BEER, so play by the rules. To my knowledge this is not unusual at
some Midwest cons, and there were no problems. Indeed, I had some great
conversations with people I met while sampling the remarkable good selection
they had.


Daniel R. Reitman

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Jan 22, 2006, 4:16:53 PM1/22/06
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On Sun, 22 Jan 2006 07:30:47 +0000 (UTC), t...@panix.com (Tom Galloway)
wrote:

>It can vary slightly within a real fan-run sf con; I seem to recall a Midwest
>con or two that at least used to have "party munchies" and soft drinks be
>free, but charge a fairly small amount for a hot dog or alcoholic beverage.

And RadCon (Tri-Cities, Washington) charges, but their hospitality
includes more food than most cons because they found that their gamers
would be likely to starve themselves otherwise.

Dan, ad nauseam

Marilee J. Layman

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Jan 22, 2006, 5:43:58 PM1/22/06
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It depends, if you're worried about a particularly con, email them and
ask. And if they do have free food, don't expect to be able to get
all your food there.
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Marilee J. Layman
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Andrew Stephenson

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Jan 22, 2006, 10:34:13 AM1/22/06
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In article <1137910041.7...@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>
Noctur...@yahoo.com writes:

Just wondering which of "food", "mastication material" or "tasty
trivia" is most apposite. I would not expect even the finest of
such fodder to provide a balanced diet, so please do not hope to
survive on it (not over a long con, not without "side effects").
--
Andrew Stephenson

Cally Soukup

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Jan 23, 2006, 12:42:43 AM1/23/06
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Marilee J. Layman <mar...@mjlayman.com> wrote in article <7k28t1t3q30pe988a...@4ax.com>:

> On 21 Jan 2006 22:07:21 -0800, Noctur...@yahoo.com wrote:

> >Is the food in con-suites usually free, or do you have to buy a 'food
> >pass' to get it? Does it depend on the con, or where it's being held,
> >or the people who run it?

> It depends, if you're worried about a particularly con, email them and
> ask. And if they do have free food, don't expect to be able to get
> all your food there.

Though sometimes one can. I can think of several conventions that have
served breakfast (pastries and bagels and cereal and milk and oatmeal),
lunch (bread, cheese, lunchmeat), and dinner (chili, hot dogs, sloppy
joes). And, of course, the usual salty snacks and raw veggies. So it's
not impossible, but it's *not* something to count on. Checking with the
convention is always a good idea. Some conventions you're lucky to get
stale pretzels. It all depends.

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your right to say it." -- Beatrice Hall

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JFW Richards

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Jan 23, 2006, 4:32:29 AM1/23/06
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And please note this provision is not usual outside America.

Regards
JFWR

Marilee J. Layman

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Jan 23, 2006, 3:39:50 PM1/23/06
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On Mon, 23 Jan 2006 05:42:43 +0000 (UTC), Cally Soukup
<sou...@pobox.com> wrote:

>Marilee J. Layman <mar...@mjlayman.com> wrote in article <7k28t1t3q30pe988a...@4ax.com>:
>> On 21 Jan 2006 22:07:21 -0800, Noctur...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>> >Is the food in con-suites usually free, or do you have to buy a 'food
>> >pass' to get it? Does it depend on the con, or where it's being held,
>> >or the people who run it?
>
>> It depends, if you're worried about a particularly con, email them and
>> ask. And if they do have free food, don't expect to be able to get
>> all your food there.
>
>Though sometimes one can. I can think of several conventions that have
>served breakfast (pastries and bagels and cereal and milk and oatmeal),
>lunch (bread, cheese, lunchmeat), and dinner (chili, hot dogs, sloppy
>joes). And, of course, the usual salty snacks and raw veggies. So it's
>not impossible, but it's *not* something to count on. Checking with the
>convention is always a good idea. Some conventions you're lucky to get
>stale pretzels. It all depends.

Yeah, I can think of cons that put out good food, too. And there are
always those who survive on stale potato chips for the entire con, but
that doesn't work for most of us.

Noctur...@yahoo.com

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Jan 25, 2006, 12:01:07 AM1/25/06
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Thanks to everyone who responded.

Info much appreciated!

Gordon Dundas

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Jan 25, 2006, 12:22:19 AM1/25/06
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Sadly due provinical taxation and a near complete monopoly on booze
Cons In Canada have little choice but charge for booze or at least ask
for a donation to cover at least a bit of the cost of blog/beer.
It's further not helped at least here In the Peoples Republic Of
Manitoba by a provinical liquior commision who when there not trying to
safeguard their overpaid hides from dealing with the real world. They
tend to view any one who might just might be having anything vaguely
like a good time with the gravest of suspicion.

Keith Thompson

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Jan 25, 2006, 3:42:30 AM1/25/06
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"Karl Johanson" <karljo...@shaw.ca> writes:
> "Cally Soukup" <sou...@pobox.com> wrote

>
>>Some conventions you're lucky to get stale pretzels. It all depends.
>
> Aw... We used to dream of stale pretzels at cons. We only got saw dust
> with lard sauce. And we were happy to get it!

Oh, you had saw dust!

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Keith Stokes

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Jan 25, 2006, 6:49:15 PM1/25/06
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I'm surprised at the replies that say some conventions charge.

I've attended a couple of hundred US conventions without any charges
for food or drink in the consuite.

Keith

Seth Breidbart

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Jan 27, 2006, 1:29:16 AM1/27/06
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In article <dqvcb7$aaa$1...@reader2.panix.com>,
Tom Galloway <t...@panix.com> wrote:

>It can vary slightly within a real fan-run sf con; I seem to recall a Midwest
>con or two that at least used to have "party munchies" and soft drinks be
>free, but charge a fairly small amount for a hot dog or alcoholic beverage.

For a number of years Confusion sold hot dogs in the con suite; that
started one year that there were no convenient restaurants.

Seth

Seth Breidbart

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Jan 27, 2006, 1:30:12 AM1/27/06
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In article <113794...@deltrak.demon.co.uk>,
Andrew Stephenson <am...@deltrak.demon.co.uk> wrote:

>Just wondering which of "food", "mastication material" or "tasty
>trivia" is most apposite. I would not expect even the finest of
>such fodder to provide a balanced diet, so please do not hope to
>survive on it (not over a long con, not without "side effects").

That depends on the convention.

Seth

Pegacorn

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Jan 29, 2006, 10:57:31 PM1/29/06
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How did they get away with just serving hot dogs? How did they get away
with having no convenient restaurants? Did people have to drive, or
just walk far?
I did not attend that convention.

Pegacorn

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Jan 29, 2006, 11:07:46 PM1/29/06
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A familiar response, hallelujah! I was beginning to think that hiatus
has changed the world. But, nope. Food at con suites and food at
parties are free for the taking that I have ever seen. I've even seen
mundanes wander down halls wondering what all the activity was and
finding things to talk about and munch. But, if a convention has a
function, such as what Loscon has with their ice cream socials, for
sure, a convention badge is called for. And, if a convention is using
the banquet facilities of the hotel, for sure that it has to be paid
for. The rule of thumb is to ask. Mostly, it is mentioned in the
programs.

Seth Breidbart

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Jan 30, 2006, 4:21:07 AM1/30/06
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In article <1138593451.7...@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,

Pegacorn <ladyof...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>How did they get away with just serving hot dogs?

The hotel let them. (They had other stuff, but didn't charge for it.)

> How did they get away
>with having no convenient restaurants?

The convention has no control over what exists near the hotel.

> Did people have to drive, or just walk far?

I'm told they would have had to drive some distance (not long as
driving goes, but too far for them to walk). Remember, Confusion is
in the Detroit area in January; walking any distance may not be very
feasible.

(Remember the Death March to Sushi?)

Seth

Jenn Ridley

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Jan 30, 2006, 6:42:23 AM1/30/06
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se...@panix.com (Seth Breidbart) wrote:

>Pegacorn <ladyof...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>How did they get away with just serving hot dogs?
>
>The hotel let them. (They had other stuff, but didn't charge for it.)
>
>> How did they get away
>>with having no convenient restaurants?
>
>The convention has no control over what exists near the hotel.

And if the restaurants close between the time the hotel contract was
signed and the dates of the con, the con is SOL.

>> Did people have to drive, or just walk far?
>
>I'm told they would have had to drive some distance (not long as
>driving goes, but too far for them to walk).

And depending on which hotel, walking may be unfeasible regardless of
the distance or the weather. IIRC Confusion used to be at a hotel at
a intersection of two expressways with the only surface streets the
ones to get to the hotel, and the restaurants on the other side(s) of
the expressways.

jenn
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Pegacorn

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Jan 30, 2006, 11:06:47 PM1/30/06
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So it sounds like they made the best of a bad situation. Otherwise I
could really imagine the gripe session.

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