Thanks bud.
Deb
"Gazab Ho gaya" <gazab_...@lycos.com> wrote in message
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> This question, which I had previously assumed should go unanswered,
> because I was certain there would be no debate, is now rearing its
> ugly head.
>
> Here I was assuming that the woman who was the queen of Hindi-language
> cinema (and still holds a prominent position) could deliver a good
> performance and people agreed with me.
>
> People know that she can dance well, she has proven it again and
> again.
>
> But can she act well? Any takers?
Mamta
From Mrityudand, Pukar, etc. etc. she is the best !
The one that really sucks for me are:
Sri Devi, Rekha, Kajol and Kareena Kapoor !!!
Madhuri ROCKS !!!!
Can't wait to see her in Devdas..... may be that'll prove to you, that she
is the best since Nutan...
cheers,
Ritesh
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Madhuri and act?.. well she tries very hard. But it does not come from
within. She somehow does not convince you. She's basically a fraud.
When Madhura acts one feels there's something missing somewhere. She
only gives her 100% to her dances. Which, for people who like that
genre, are very effective. She is a good dancer and she puts her all
to her dances. Esp the sensous ones.
Ritu
I also think it takes a certain talent to pull off "cheezy" roles like
her parts in Hum Aapke Hain Koun (oops, I initially spelled 'koun' as
'korn,' that was kinda funny) and Dil To Pagal Hai, which, despite the
popular disapproval of this board, I liked a lot. *You* try
delivering a long monologue about how "someone, somewhere, is made
just for me!" and see if you can keep from breaking into laughter --
much less convince your audience that you're serious!
A lot of the time, when I hear Bollywood actresses being ridiculed, I
feel that what is actually being mocked is the nature of the parts
they are given to play. It's very difficult to establish your
thespian skills when your roles don't require you to use those skills
in acting out genuinely dramatic and *believable* situations. Even a
"serious" role doesn't hold up very well when it is set in a movie
that treats serious issues with a ludicrous lack of depth.
From Mrityudand, Pukar, etc. etc. she is the best !>>
How ridiculously funny!! "etc. etc." must be referring to HAHK, Mohabbat,
Aarzoo, Wajood, DTPH, Yaarana, Raj Kumar, and such films right? HAHA! If she
"ROCKS" as an actress, she certainly hasn't proven herself yet (and I suppose
its too late now, since she is already considered over-the-hill and out).
As far as the others you mentioned:
Sridevi: Sadma, Nagina, Mr. India, Chandni, Lamhe, Khuda Gawah, Gumrah, Laadla,
Judaai... she is the best actress of recent times.
Rekha: she is an actress before my time, but I have seen a few of her films
such as Umrao Jaan, and she has excelled at them.
Kajol: Immensely talented, however she just hasn't done many films. That is
the reason why she has failed to become as popular as Sridevi or Madhuri.
Kareena: agreed... she isn't all that yet, but give her time... look at Karisma
now... she's great to watch!
-laterz
She is in her element when she shakes and dances. Barring a few stray
performances (only Mrityudand and Lajja come to mind) she has featured
in roles that don't require her to 'act'. Moreover, the overwhelming
majority of her films are constructed as showcases of her dancing
talents, not her emoting abilities. She is the undisputed queen of
run-of-the-mill, hackneyed love triangles (witness the trailors of her
upcoming film) and her legacy will be more commercial than aesthetic.
Moreover, she is not an actress who ever identifies with risk: you
will never see her under the guise of 'risky' characterizations, even
those regularly relegated to female actors, be it prostitute,
terrorist, bitch, villainess, psychotic,or even clown, etc. She is
severely restricted as an actor because of this inability to
experiment or go against convention.
Rekha recently said of Madhuri: "Her hits apart, it's rather
unfortunate that Madhuri has yet to come up with a performance for
which she will be remembered as an actress. Now that she's married, I
don't know if it will happen." -Zee Premiere Magazine, March 2000.
It is safe to say that no one (future actors, critics, film
historians, or audiences members) will be sitting around ten, twenty,
fifty years from now waxing eloquent about her acting capabilities.
Her dances, yes, but her performances, definitely not.
Perhaps, but Madhuri has said umpteen times that she personally
*identifies* most with the character she played in HAHK of all the
roles she played in her career, a role that she repeated almost ad
verbatim in DTPH. It does take a certain talent to pull of cheezy
roles (witness most of SRK's romantic heroes) but when an actor
expresses personal identification with such cheesiness, there is no
acting talent involved.
>
> A lot of the time, when I hear Bollywood actresses being ridiculed, I
> feel that what is actually being mocked is the nature of the parts
> they are given to play. It's very difficult to establish your
> thespian skills when your roles don't require you to use those skills
> in acting out genuinely dramatic and *believable* situations. Even a
> "serious" role doesn't hold up very well when it is set in a movie
> that treats serious issues with a ludicrous lack of depth.
True again, but it's not as though she hasn't been offered good roles.
She was offered Khamoshi, but turned it down to do what? Rajkumar?
"Khamoshi" guarantees Manisha Koirala's place in the gallery of the
great performances. There is no "Khamoshi" in Madhuri's career.
> True again, but it's not as though she hasn't been offered good roles.
> She was offered Khamoshi, but turned it down to do what? Rajkumar?
> "Khamoshi" guarantees Manisha Koirala's place in the gallery of the
> great performances. There is no "Khamoshi" in Madhuri's career.
I have to agree. Madhuri does one particular "mood" extremely well: the
sexy tease. She really does light up the screen when she does that, and I
can see why people enjoy that and want more of it. But one mood does not
an actress make.
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Karen Lofstrom lofs...@lava.net
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"mamta.dhand" > You can't say 'never' when you've made an exception!
Can anyone picture Mrityudand where Madhuri holds up the gun, The hatred on
her face, and she shoots the villain.
Can anyone picture in Dil To Pagal Hai where Madhuri tapes that cassette to
Akshay Kumar to tell him she has fallen for Shahrukh!!
Can anyone picture in Beta, when Madhuri confronts Aruna Irani. The anger.
If this is not what an actress does then really!!!
I hate this. Dont discredit Madhuri unneccesarily.
And believe me her career will always be remebered not only as a dancer but
The Greatest Indian Female Superstar.
Long Live Madhuri Dixit
Aadil Moosa