> >http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/cw-developing-deadman-proj...
> > CW Developing 'Deadman' Project With 'Supernatural' Creator Eric
> > Kripke
> > by Philiana Ng
>
> > The CW is getting back into business with Supernatural creator Eric
> > Kripke.
>
> > The network is developing an adaptation of DC Comics' Deadman, by
> > Arnold Drake and Carmine Infantino, with Kripke writing and executive
> > producing.
>
> > Deadman centers on the spirit of a trapeze artist, Boston Brand, who
> > is murdered, and continues to live on by inhabiting other people's
> > bodies and helping them resolve conflicts and issues in their lives.
> > He first appeared in October 1967. Deadman will be produced by Warner
> > Bros. TV.
>
> > Kripke exited his day-to-day duties as showrunner on Supernatural at
> > the end of the fifth season, with executive producer Sera Gamble
> > taking over. Supernatural is entering into Season 7 this fall.
>
> > Earlier this year at PaleyFest, Kripke told The Hollywood Reporter
> > that the TV adaptation of Neil Gaiman's comic book series The Sandman
> > was "not in the works, at least for this season" but he hoped that "we
> > can do it again in the future." In September 2010, WBTV named him its
> > top choice to develop the series.
>
> They better not screw this up.
Can't see any way they couldn't.
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Kinda seems to me that people are going to think of it more as Quantum
Leap maybe mixed with The Fugitive if they have him tracking down the
(oh, WOW) one armed man. If memory serves, the guy who shot Boston
Brand had a mechanical hook for a hand.
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Lilith
I don't doubt that they used that line to sell the idea.
I can't see the costume working and without that you might as well
just call it an original idea.
> If memory serves, the guy who shot Boston
> Brand had a mechanical hook for a hand.
Don't we all?
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The powers. The costume is explainable but a little silly looking.
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You are correct. But the story branched out from there. Boston
Brand is also a ally of Batman (being a ghost helps). His fight to
reach Namba Parbat, his missions for Kama Rushnu. His time in hell
(where he met DB Cooper), there are a lot of good stories to be told.
I doubt they'll keep that.
> His fight to
> reach Namba Parbat, his missions for Kama Rushnu. His time in hell
> (where he met DB Cooper),
Did he ask him who he really was?
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He's Adam West, isn't he?
+1
Tom
Nanda Parbat
Rama Kushna
Keep trying... you'll get something right someday.
Tom
So Rama Kushna fills the role of Al?
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Lilith
The costume could be modified to something less exotic. I'm wondering
if the mask would be part of the image if a series does develop.
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Lilith
>The costume could be modified to something less exotic. I'm wondering
>if the mask would be part of the image if a series does develop.
Mask? His head is pretty much a skull, he doesn't wear a mask.
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Captain Infinity
or do the emaciated Deadman as CGI; most of the time he's gonna be in
somebody else anyway.
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"Please, I can't die, I've never kissed an Asian woman!"
Shego on "Shat My Dad Says"
>In article <ve2g57hm12g4urj71...@4ax.com>,
> Lilith <lili...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 26 Aug 2011 01:09:04 -0700 (PDT), Duggy
>> <p.allan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >On Aug 26, 2:23 pm, Anim8rFSK <ANIM8R...@cox.net> wrote:
>> >> I'm amazed it took this long; Deadman is one of the few costumed comic
>> >> characters that can reasonably translate to the screen.
>> >
>> >The powers. The costume is explainable but a little silly looking.
>>
>> The costume could be modified to something less exotic. I'm wondering
>> if the mask would be part of the image if a series does develop.
>
>or do the emaciated Deadman as CGI; most of the time he's gonna be in
>somebody else anyway.
True...and that could be cool...but I think it's unlikely they would
do the main character of a series that way...probably not even with a
mask unless it was something he didn't wear most of the time.
I beg to differ. Boston Brand was a trapeze artist who performed
under the name of Deadman because he presented the fact that every
time he performed he was risking his life. His trapeze act included
the red costume with the high collar. And it also included him
wearing a mask designed to look like a skull. Because he was killed
while wearing the costume, complete with mask, it became his default
presentation. On the very rare occasions that he became corporeal he
was wont to remove the mask and expose his human face.
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Lilith
You're right, of course, but there are times when he is shown as
basically a skeleton in the costume...I assume that's what he's
talking about.
>On Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:14:15 -0400, Captain Infinity
><Infi...@captaininfinity.us> wrote:
>
>>Once Upon A Time,
>>Lilith wrote:
>>
>>>The costume could be modified to something less exotic. I'm wondering
>>>if the mask would be part of the image if a series does develop.
>>
>>Mask? His head is pretty much a skull, he doesn't wear a mask.
>
>I beg to differ. Boston Brand was a trapeze artist who performed
>under the name of Deadman because he presented the fact that every
>time he performed he was risking his life. His trapeze act included
>the red costume with the high collar. And it also included him
>wearing a mask designed to look like a skull. Because he was killed
>while wearing the costume, complete with mask, it became his default
>presentation. On the very rare occasions that he became corporeal he
>was wont to remove the mask and expose his human face.
Cool, thank you for educating me.
**
Captain Infinity
That only came about in the late '80s with the Deadman: Love After
Death miniseries drawn by Kelley Jones. Jones was the first to draw
Boston as an emaciated skeleton man; for the two decades before then,
he was always depicted with normal human (or quasi-superheroic human)
musculature.
Also, I always saw the pre-Jones Deadman mask as being more like a
ghoulish undead type than a skull. But nontheless, Lilith's larger
point is correct, Boston's facial appearance as Deadman was originally
identical to that of the cloth mask he wore as a trapeze artist.
I was actually thinking more of Kingdom Come than the Kelley Jones
version.
>Also, I always saw the pre-Jones Deadman mask as being more like a
>ghoulish undead type than a skull. But nontheless, Lilith's larger
>point is correct, Boston's facial appearance as Deadman was originally
>identical to that of the cloth mask he wore as a trapeze artist.
Which is why I said she was right.
Right -- Ross took the Jones interpretation all the way and made
Deadman an actual skeleton. I forgot about that.
>>Also, I always saw the pre-Jones Deadman mask as being more like a
>>ghoulish undead type than a skull. But nontheless, Lilith's larger
>>point is correct, Boston's facial appearance as Deadman was originally
>>identical to that of the cloth mask he wore as a trapeze artist.
>
>Which is why I said she was right.
Which would make you right too -- that was more for the poster who
insisted that Deadman did not wear a mask. (Not only did he wear a
real mask before dying, he called himself Deadman and wore the D even
as a mortal trapeze artist!) But I guess the actual point is how they
will depict him in this new TV series if it ever gets off the ground,
and that could go in almost any direction. However, I think they will
try to make him look as human as possible, to boost audience
identification, while still getting across that he is a ghost. I
personally prefer the Bronze Age "superhero" look for Boston
(especially when drawn by Neal Adams or Matt Wagner) but that's just
me.
My guess...if they go with him dieing while doing his act, he'll be
wearing his aerialist costume--which probably won't look like the one
in the comics.
To be fair, Jones makes all his characters look that way.
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I'm wondering also if the actor would have trouble with wearing a full
face mask, much like Toby Maguirre did as Spider-Man. Not much screen
time for the actor to be recognized and associated with the part let
alone potential future professional hires.
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Lilith
I agree...and I pretty much already said that too.
Even though it's presented as a rubber mask when he pulls it off, it's
really more like white greasepaint. And don't forget, Deadman always
had lots of flashbacks to living Boston. And there's always Cleveland.
I do remember the panel where Boston is sitting at a vanity while
prepping for his act just before he was killed. There *was* a stick
that he was applying to his face gut I always assumed that that was
just him either gluing down the eye edges of the mask or filling in
with black on his real flesh to blend in with the black-ringed eye
holes of the mask.
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Lilith
Do you really believe that there was anyone in Hollywood who mattered in
this context who was unaware that it was Maguire beneath the mask?
--
Jim G.
Waukesha, WI
Yeah. I always thought it was a baldcap over the hair and ears and
greasepaint, but I'm sure we've seen him pull it off as one big over the
head rubber mask (apparently reusable) in later issues. Hmm. Maybe he
only did that after he was dead when it didn't count. :D
Maguire's concern was that we wouldn't be able to see his facial
expressions under the mask. Of course, Peter Parker got more face
time than Spider-Man got mask time in any of the movies. Not the Emo
Parker was great acting.
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Lilith
Maguire has facial expressions? I must have missed that part.
Depends.
If they go the Quantum Leap way and have the Boston actor playing the
person he's in then it's a big role for the actor... if not it's a
smaller role than the normal lead anyway.
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Gift horse ... mouth ...
> Of course, Peter Parker got more face
> time than Spider-Man got mask time in any of the movies. Not the Emo
> Parker was great acting.
IMO, the reason his career didn't take off after Spidey was precisely
because there weren't a lot of other roles that would allow him to mask
his various shortcomings.
True. Then again, IMS, most of what Boston did was to research things
from the spirit world and usually took over someone's body for a
relatively brief amount of time, either to get them out of trouble,
get someone else out of trouble or get information in a more expedient
manner. He seldom occupied a body for too long. Of course, a TV
series doesn't need to be written to the same formula.
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Lilith
True... but I thought about it if you were doing the QL thing he'd
still be in costume or white/mask faced at least.
And for a TV show you'd want to reduce costs... FX skull face would
cost a lot more than white face/mask.
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There were a lot of scenes with Toby as Peter Parker (no costume on) in
each Spider-Man film.
They did in Quantum Leap -- but they showed the somebody-else as Sam
Beckett while Beckett was in them...
Only when he saw his reflection. Everyone else saw him as the other person.
The audience saw him as Sam Beckett, and only saw the other person in the
mirror, or if they did a scene back in the "present".
That's what I said -- the audience saw him as Beckett.
If that's what you were saying, all I can say is, your sentence structure is
confusing. Rereading it, I see you were talking about back in the "present"
when you said they showed "somebody-else as Sam Beckett while Beckett was in
them..."?
???
No, in the past, obviously, is when Beckett is in somebody else, who is
shown as Beckett ...
Well, that just makes your sentence structure more confusing.
Because he was Beckett... but there image of the real person that he
and everyone else could see. Except small children, the mentally ill
and animals.
This means he could swim as a monkey and walk with no legs.
Of course that didn't make much sense and all the problems that would
have occured because of that weren't shown.
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And I should care about your opinion because ... ?
*grin* Didn't say you should. Any more than I should care about yours. As
far as I can tell, you don't generally have any trouble communicating.
As compared to ... ?
> On Sep 1, 5:12�am, kensi <kensi kensing...@zoonoses.de> wrote:
> > On 31/08/2011 1:49 PM, Dragon Lady wrote:
> >
> > > "kensi" <kensi kensing...@zoonoses.de> wrote in message
> > >news:j3kk30$lu9$2...@speranza.aioe.org...
> > >> They did in Quantum Leap -- but they showed the somebody-else as Sam
> > >> Beckett while Beckett was in them...
> >
> > > Only when he saw his reflection. Everyone else saw him as the other
> > > person. The audience saw him as Sam Beckett, and only saw the other
> > > person in the mirror, or if they did a scene back in the "present".
> >
> > That's what I said -- the audience saw him as Beckett.
>
> Because he was Beckett... but there image of the real person that he
> and everyone else could see. Except small children, the mentally ill
> and animals.
>
> This means he could swim as a monkey and walk with no legs.
>
> Of course that didn't make much sense and all the problems that would
> have occured because of that weren't shown.
>
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> = DUG.
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Of course, different writers had different takes on this. Some of the
writers thought Sam was really in the future chamber and some thought he
was really taking the other person's place (hence the walking without
legs). There were two women that wrote the tie in novels and each based
them on a different theory.
Yeah... he was in Seabiscuit and... um... yeah he was quite big after.
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I note that you 1. waited almost 20 days to answer this and 2. deleted the
part that I would have used to explain why I couldn't parse the sentence.
Yes, I've seen Quantum Leap. That has nothing to do with whether or not I
could understand what the original poster (who was not you, I remember that
much) was saying.
That actually makes no sense at all. Either the bodies were exchanged, or
the spirits were exchanged. In either case, Sam did not disappear, and his
body was not lifeless. His place was taken by whoever he exchanged with, so
either that person's body was in the chamber, or that person's spirit was
inhabiting Sam's body in the chamber.
>
> So does that mean some people thought Sam's body was lying there in
> the QL lab, lifeless? Waiting for Sam to leap back in? I'm not sure
> how that'd explain Al appearing. Hopefully QL fans are as obsessive as
> I am, and there's a really good FAQ somewhere.
>
> Also, I wonder what happened to the people while Sam was leaping into
> them. Did they remember what had happened?
>
> --
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> "There's nothing like eating hay when you're faint," the White King
> remarked to Alice, as he munched away.
> "I should think throwing cold water over you would be better," Alice
> suggested: "--or some sal-volatile."
> "I didn't say there was nothing better," the King replied. "I said there
> was nothing like it."
> Which Alice did not venture to deny.
>
>
That's not the way I remember it. How did they get the baby back to the
past once it was separated from the mother? I could have sword the baby
appeared in the delivery room.
And those all came BEFORE Spiderman, didn't they? He's talking about
afterwards.
That was all before Spider-man, though.
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OK. I guess that was more for greenaum who said "before Spiderman,
nothing".
(although it warms my heart to see you and grinningdemon in accord on
something)
Gawds am I going to have to get my tape of that episode out and quote
from it?
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Lilith