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JLU Ep 5x12 Alive! SPOILERS AHEAD!

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GregoryD

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Feb 8, 2006, 7:45:41 PM2/8/06
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Ya know, this entire season has had 2 plots running through it: Lex's plot
to regain Brainiac and become the "god" he so wants to be, and his struggle
with Grodd over control of the society. It was also fun to see Lex take a
page from Dr. Doom's book and realize that science isn't all that there is
and that if there's something like magic out there, he'd want to control it.
It was fun seeing all the villains fight each other, especially the way
Toyman was just plain owning Killer Frost with the yo-yo. And when Metron
entered the scene, you just KNEW something big was going to go down. Now,
I'm a huge fan of all things Superman, but I never got to see the episode
where Darkseid apparently met his demise, but damn, that was GREAT to see
him again and totally in character. It was also neat to see Darkseid's
minions back on Apokalips seem genuinely reverent to him, something that's
carried over from the STAS Legacy episodes. I can't wait for ep 13, and wish
this wasn't a finale, but man, it's going to be a good one!

GregoryD


iron...@earthlink.net

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Feb 9, 2006, 2:59:10 AM2/9/06
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Amen. Still a shame that Batman's villains aren't around for the finale
of the DC Animated Universe (as we can assume it is, for now) and it'd
odd that they seemed to kill so many villains, but this is shapng up
nicely.

Astrobiochemist

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Feb 9, 2006, 8:17:45 PM2/9/06
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Well, if it is the end for the series, then they may as well kill so
many villians as they will never get the chance to use them again. I'm
not saying that killing the characters for the sake of killing them is
any good but if you finally have an opportunity where it makes sense to
get rid the villian and you won't ever see them again, why not?

Of course, the bat-embargo works out here since the Batman villians
need to survive for Batman Beyond. ;)

sbe...@dowco.com

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Feb 9, 2006, 9:48:54 PM2/9/06
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Among the villains they "killed" off were the Key (who has
teleportation powers in the DCAU) and the Shade (ditto), and Weather
Wizard (who might possibly protect them against Killer Frost's powers)

It's pretty easy to justify their survival.

Scott Bennie

iron...@earthlink.net

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Feb 10, 2006, 10:52:22 AM2/10/06
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Hell, it was even implied Grodd would somehow survive being blasted
into space.

Brian Doyle

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Feb 10, 2006, 2:51:53 PM2/10/06
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<iron...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> Hell, it was even implied Grodd would somehow survive being blasted
> into space.

What? You thought Grodd's last words should have been "Argh, you've killed
me with your superior villainy"? Of course he'd going to be defiant.

Brian Doyle

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Feb 10, 2006, 2:52:21 PM2/10/06
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"Astrobiochemist" <CCSB...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Possibly my irony gland misfiring, but; "Like who?"

The only villains we ever saw alive in the future were Talia and Mr Freeze.
The rest were talked about but never seen.


Daibhid Ceanaideach

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Feb 10, 2006, 2:54:59 PM2/10/06
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Also Sprach Brian Doyle:

Harley Quinn?

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Astrobiochemist

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Feb 10, 2006, 3:26:21 PM2/10/06
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>> Of course, the bat-embargo works out here since the Batman villians
>> need to survive for Batman Beyond. ;)

> Possibly my irony gland misfiring, but; "Like who?"

> The only villains we ever saw alive in the future were Talia and Mr Freeze.
> The rest were talked about but never seen.

The ones that I can think of offhand are Harley Quinn, Bane, Talia, Mr.
Freeze, Ra's Al Ghul (he needs to survive up until 2009 or so they said
in the series), and the Joker. The Joker needs to survive long enough
for the "present day" parts of Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker to
take place (which has to take place AFTER the current season of JLU, as
Batman doesn't walk with a limp yet and the implication in the uncut
version of RotJ is that the battle with the Joker is when he get his
leg injury).

Brian Doyle

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Feb 10, 2006, 3:46:38 PM2/10/06
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"Astrobiochemist" <CCSB...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> >> Of course, the bat-embargo works out here since the Batman villians
> >> need to survive for Batman Beyond. ;)
>
> > Possibly my irony gland misfiring, but; "Like who?"
>
> > The only villains we ever saw alive in the future were Talia and Mr
Freeze.
> > The rest were talked about but never seen.
>
> The ones that I can think of offhand are Harley Quinn, Bane, Talia, Mr.
> Freeze, Ra's Al Ghul (he needs to survive up until 2009 or so they said
> in the series), and the Joker.

I stand corrected, I'd forgotten that Harley was in ROTJ, and I'm not sure I
saw an episode with Bane.. Curse the lousy UK distribution of the series...

Good catch on Ra's too.

> The Joker needs to survive long enough
> for the "present day" parts of Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker to
> take place (which has to take place AFTER the current season of JLU, as
> Batman doesn't walk with a limp yet and the implication in the uncut
> version of RotJ is that the battle with the Joker is when he get his
> leg injury).

Nice reasoning, though we know that must be due fairly soon, since Nightwing
is in Bludhaven, and he'd moved out of Gotham some time before the
flashback.

Unless, could the Nightwing we seen be Dick prior to his return to Gotham in
the first place, which would explain the absence of the Tim Drake Robin, he
hasn't shown up yet.

My head hurts....

Clell Harmon

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Feb 10, 2006, 8:39:53 PM2/10/06
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On 10 Feb 2006 07:52:22 -0800, iron...@earthlink.net wrote:

>Hell, it was even implied Grodd would somehow survive being blasted
>into space.

Not space, Hyperspace (or what ever a Hyperdrive reconfigured
from a gorilla-tech cloaking field travels through)

--
"My God, it's full of stupid!"

tphile

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Feb 10, 2006, 10:59:04 PM2/10/06
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> leg injury).-4)
>


and a Brainiac for the future to set up the events in New Kids in Town
and to conquer Colu or whatever to set up the future for the Dox family
and Brainiac 5 (as well as 1-4)

tphile

tphile

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Feb 10, 2006, 11:02:48 PM2/10/06
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Brian Doyle wrote:

at least no one was given the chance to say

"Was Beauty that killed the beast"

or

"You made a monkey out of me, now you must die"

tphile

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