New Sugino Crank

[Mike]

Just noticed this on the Soma blog. I don't know that this looks any better or worse than an XD-2 set-up as a double. Still, it's nice that there are getting to be more options for wide-range doubles. I wonder if this will be any cheaper than the Rene Herse crank. 

http://www.somafab.blogspot.com/2012/12/sugino-ox601-cranks.html

--mike

[Jeremy Till]

I saw that too, and while they say "more affordable" than the normal OX801D (which is like, $500, right?) they don't mention a specific price point.  Wonder how much it'll be.  Probably not XD2 cheap, but hopefully not too bad.

In any case, another good option for wide range doubles...If it's cheap enough, I may finally try one of these newfangled (now 10 years old) external bottom brackets. 

[Joe Bernard]

What is the deal with that site? It freezes my computer every time.

 

Joe Bernard

Vallejo, CA.

[Garth]

Note the 145mm Q factor.  For those who it matters to, this will be a "big deal".  Note it is designed in the spirit of the TA Cyclotouriste Crank with it's low Q and small ratios, except you are no longer limited to that odd and often wobbly tiny BCD !  You can use the common 110mm BCD :)

But, if the other one costs $500 ..... hmmmm ..... prolly not going to be near XD prices ... 

[Garth]

BTW .. whatever happened to the Riv Crank proposed long ago ? 

[Garth]

It's already up on Soma website .... $360 .

http://store.somafab.com/suoxcrarwcu.html

[Mike Schiller]

the finish looks dull in the pictures, guess they saved money on polishing?

I wish IRD would do their Defiant crankset in a 94 BCD double. That would be a real big seller. There are plenty of 94 mm chain-rings around.

~mike

Carlsbad Ca.

On Wednesday, December 5, 2012 6:34:28 AM UTC-8, Mike wrote:

[William]

Among the highlights is that Soma finally is embracing the inherent flexibility of the chainring choices.  When they started offering the $500 flavor, they didn't offer it with anything smaller than a 34T small ring, which is what we all can already get with every other 110mm bcd crankset.  Now they offer all the rings as freebie configuration options.  That's pretty cool.  It'll be interesting to get a weight on it.  Remember that if Soma has it, Merry Sales also has it, so you can buy it from you LBS if they deal with Merry Sales.   

[rperks]

For what it is worth, these are in the same wholesale price league as White industry crank sets with a WI bottom bracket.  Likewise the Compass RH offering is just a bit more without a bottom bracket.  The corresponding retail prices all appear to be in the hunt as well if you shop around, and or ask your retailer of choice.  IMO the real differences come down to aesthetics, bottom bracket style, if ramped and pinned rings mean anything to you, and country of origin.  What is really good is the fact that there are finally choices in the market that allow for lower ranged well spaced doubles and triples. 

The next step is finding a front derailer made in the last 20 years that works well with a 48-44 ring and a 16-20 tooth gap between rings.  There are a few great vintage options, but new is a little harder to find.

Rob (very excited for a Christmas Roadeo project that is getting closer to done)
oceanaircycles.com
Ventura, Ca

[Ryan Watson]

Rob at Ocean Air Cycles told me $340, which I believe included rings. 

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[Garth]

I used the Shimano 105 double made in 1999-ish FD-5500 when I used 48/44/26 rings and it shifted fine between the small rings. The Dura Ace and Ultegra of that same vintage work as well :)

[reynoldslugs]

I have the earlier version of this crankset, in 26-40. It's a terrific crank. Pics here:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/41563482@N06/sets/72157629609638106/

Max

[Joe Bernard]

It looks like my favorite (and very weird) crank of all time, the Campy Record OR for mountain bikes from the early '90s.

 

Joe Bernard

[PATRICK MOORE]

Max -- congrats! First pair of Keos I've seen on this list beside mine!

Nice bike, with very interesting setup. That's also the first Italian
racing bike I've seen with 35 Kojaks!

And: how do y'all keep your bikes so clean? That drivetrain looks as
if it hasn't been ridden.

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[reynoldslugs]

that Della Santa was fairly new at the time the pics taken...simmichrome, rubbing alcohol, and bike lust ... but not always so spic and span:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/41563482@N06/sets/72157626493792020/

[PATRICK MOORE]

And Della Santa is American -- all the more interesting as that must
be a custom -- club racer with room for 35s.

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[Ken Mattina]

This crank uses an exo bottom bracket, correct?

Is that a really good idea?

Ken

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[Corwin]

Hi Ken -

Based on my experience with bottom brackets making use of outboard bearings (like the one integrated into the new Sugino crankset), it's a very good idea.

It creates an incredibly strong, stiff system. I find my cranks with the outboard bearings to be much more efficient than my cranks with square taper bottom brackets.

Thanks,



Corwin