Riv Rally East Miraculously Escapes Weather Debacle!
Montclair BobbyB
through this weekend virtually untouched by this Nor'Easter that's
been pounding several states in the East, and in the mean time had a
fantastic ride from Cumberland, MD up to Ohiopyle, PA along the
beautiful Great Allegheny Passage Trail.
Our total rider count was 14, and folks came from as far away as
Kalamazoo, Cleveland, Washington DC, Wilmington DE, Bowling Green OH,
Princeton NJ and Syracuse. We had a great bunch, and the cross-
section of Rivs was truly stunning... We had Saluki, Hilsen,
Hillborne, Bombadil, Atlantis, Quickbeam, SimpleOne and Rambouillet...
what a variety!!
Friday night we assembled for dinner and a few beers in Cumberland,
which is nestled in the mountains of western Maryland... beautiful
country. Four of our group had ridden ahead to Frostburg, 16 miles up
the trail where we planned to meet on Saturday morning. We were
bracing for some pretty steady rain, and T-storms, according to the
local weather forecast.
Saturday morning we assembled at the Cumberland trailhead (where the
C&O Trail heads southeast to Washington, and the GAP Trail heads
northwest to Pittsburgh). There is excellent overnight parking
(covered by the highway), very close to the trail. We were wheels
down by 8 AM, and hoping to get over the Eastern Divide by Noon. The
sun was shining brightly at this point... huh??? We were puzzled, but
delighted nonetheless. The ride up to Frostburg was gradual and not
particularly difficult... but tedious. I was glad to stretch my legs
at Frostburg, where we grabbed sandwiches to go, and met up with 3 of
the 4 lead riders (one other rider, Ken Peyton was attempting an early
breakaway... and would successfully hold off the peloton clear into
Confluence, our stayover destination).
A short distance up from Frostburg we came to the (massive) Big Savage
Tunnel, which extends more than 3000 feet straight through Savage
Mountain. This was IMPRESSIVE to say the least, and it was a blast to
ride through. Shortly after the big tunnel we reached the top of the
Eastern Divide (certainly NOTHING LIKE the Western Divide, but for us
it meant our pedalling would get a subtle boost on the "downside").
The weather became cooler and more overcast, with an occasional short
spritz, but no rain as had been predicted. The scenery along the
trail was beautiful, including several high and long viaducts, the
Salisbury being the longest at around 1900 feet... these were
spectacular. As we neared Confluence, the scenery got even prettier,
and we began to follow the river more closely. As Confluence loomed a
mile or two ahead, the skies grew darker, and the last 1-2 miles to
the Paddlers Lane House (where most of us were staying) were into a
miserable headwind with steady rain. This is the first time I had to
stop and actually put on my rain gear. But once inside the house, we
dried quickly and forgot all about the rain. Our hosts were very
accommodating, and generously loaned us their car to drive into town
to pick up our other 2 riders (who were staying at 'overflow'
accommodations), grab a stack o pizzas and a few sixpacks of beer....
the perfect ending to a perfect riding day.
Sunday morning was overcast and noticeably colder, but still very good
riding conditions. After a huge breakfast in Confluence at the local
breakfast favorite, 12 of the 14 set off for Ohiopyle, while John
Philip and Tom Nezovich headed back for Cumberland, which they planned
to split into 2 days. The forecast was calling for snow Sunday night,
so there was a slight chance they would get caught in snow Monday
morning, or at least a nasty, wintry mix... I'll have to wait to hear
how they made out.
Meanwhile we rode into Ohiopyle (the veritable nerve center of the GAP
trail, and a haven for kayakers and rafters). We had arranged for a
tour of Frank Llloyd Wright's Fallingwater, which was amazing as
usual, and then decided (due to a lack of time and a nasty forecast)
to get shuttled back to Cumberland from Ohiopyle (instead of riding
the additional 16 miles to Connellsville and risk getting caught in
bad weather). It turned out to be a wise choice.
I could go on and on about this weekend, but I'll let others chime
in... GREAT GROUP OF PEOPLE, awesome bicycles, and a spectacular
route... Everything went better than expected, so I couldn't be
happier. I trust others enjoyed this as much as I. We WILL do more
of these rides, of that I'm sure.
In the mean time I have set up a Riv Rally East set of pics on Flickr,
that we will certainly add to.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/16461051@N04/sets/72157629879604519/
Thanks to all who came out for Riv Rally East (despite the ominous
threat of awful weather), and to the few who had reserved a place, but
were unable to join (for a variety of reasons), I'm very sorry you
were unable to join us... you were missed for sure.
Steve Palincsar
> Boy, somebody up there must like us... Somehow we managed to slip
> through this weekend virtually untouched by this Nor'Easter that's
> been pounding several states in the East, and in the mean time had a
> fantastic ride from Cumberland, MD up to Ohiopyle, PA along the
> beautiful Great Allegheny Passage Trail.
>
> Our total rider count was 14, and folks came from as far away as
> Kalamazoo, Cleveland, Washington DC, Wilmington DE, Bowling Green OH,
> Princeton NJ and Syracuse. We had a great bunch, and the cross-
> section of Rivs was truly stunning... We had Saluki, Hilsen,
> Hillborne, Bombadil, Atlantis, Quickbeam, SimpleOne and Rambouillet...
> what a variety!!
And two Atlantises, one with a custom silver color and the other a 650B
conversion with red Hetres! As well as this large collection of
Rivendells, we also had a Surley Long Haul Trucker and a Kogswell P/R.
>
> Friday night we assembled for dinner and a few beers in Cumberland,
> which is nestled in the mountains of western Maryland... beautiful
> country. Four of our group had ridden ahead to Frostburg, 16 miles up
> the trail where we planned to meet on Saturday morning. We were
> bracing for some pretty steady rain, and T-storms, according to the
> local weather forecast.
>
> Saturday morning we assembled at the Cumberland trailhead (where the
> C&O Trail heads southeast to Washington, and the GAP Trail heads
> northwest to Pittsburgh). There is excellent overnight parking
> (covered by the highway), very close to the trail. We were wheels
> down by 8 AM, and hoping to get over the Eastern Divide by Noon. The
> sun was shining brightly at this point... huh??? We were puzzled, but
> delighted nonetheless. The ride up to Frostburg was gradual and not
> particularly difficult... but tedious.
And hot! I was ready for almost anything but hot. Still, it was
delightful while it lasted... but it didn't last, and we got almost all
the weather we bargained for (fortunately, the cold driving rain part
only lasted a couple of miles).
> I was glad to stretch my legs
> at Frostburg, where we grabbed sandwiches to go, and met up with 3 of
> the 4 lead riders (one other rider, Ken Peyton was attempting an early
> breakaway... and would successfully hold off the peloton clear into
> Confluence, our stayover destination).
>
> A short distance up from Frostburg we came to the (massive) Big Savage
> Tunnel, which extends more than 3000 feet straight through Savage
> Mountain. This was IMPRESSIVE to say the least, and it was a blast to
> ride through. Shortly after the big tunnel we reached the top of the
> Eastern Divide (certainly NOTHING LIKE the Western Divide, but for us
> it meant our pedalling would get a subtle boost on the "downside").
>
> The weather became cooler and more overcast, with an occasional short
> spritz, but no rain as had been predicted. The scenery along the
> trail was beautiful, including several high and long viaducts, the
> Salisbury being the longest at around 1900 feet... these were
> spectacular. As we neared Confluence, the scenery got even prettier,
> and we began to follow the river more closely. As Confluence loomed a
> mile or two ahead, the skies grew darker, and the last 1-2 miles to
> the Paddlers Lane House (where most of us were staying) were into a
> miserable headwind with steady rain. This is the first time I had to
> stop and actually put on my rain gear.
You were the smart one. The rest of us thought our destination was but
a quarter mile or so down the road and kept on going. Turned out to be
2 miles, the last 0.4 on a rough gravel track. I put on my rain gear
when we reached Paddler's Lane - didn't want to get even more rained on
just getting the gear off the bike and into the house!
> But once inside the house, we
> dried quickly and forgot all about the rain.
Especially after a few hits off that "sample" Belgian ale. That, and a
hot shower and change of clothes, really took the edge off.
> Our hosts were very
> accommodating, and generously loaned us their car to drive into town
> to pick up our other 2 riders (who were staying at 'overflow'
> accommodations), grab a stack o pizzas and a few sixpacks of beer....
> the perfect ending to a perfect riding day.
>
> Sunday morning was overcast and noticeably colder, but still very good
> riding conditions. After a huge breakfast in Confluence at the local
> breakfast favorite,
Sisters Cafe -- if you're in Confluence, don't miss it!
> 12 of the 14 set off for Ohiopyle, while John
> Philip and Tom Nezovich headed back for Cumberland, which they planned
> to split into 2 days. The forecast was calling for snow Sunday night,
> so there was a slight chance they would get caught in snow Monday
> morning, or at least a nasty, wintry mix... I'll have to wait to hear
> how they made out.
>
> Meanwhile we rode into Ohiopyle (the veritable nerve center of the GAP
> trail, and a haven for kayakers and rafters). We had arranged for a
> tour of Frank Llloyd Wright's Fallingwater, which was amazing as
> usual, and then decided (due to a lack of time and a nasty forecast)
> to get shuttled back to Cumberland from Ohiopyle (instead of riding
> the additional 16 miles to Connellsville and risk getting caught in
> bad weather). It turned out to be a wise choice.
Smart choice indeed. As the van pulled out of the Fallingwater parking
lot, the rain began.
>
> I could go on and on about this weekend, but I'll let others chime
> in... GREAT GROUP OF PEOPLE, awesome bicycles, and a spectacular
> route... Everything went better than expected, so I couldn't be
> happier. I trust others enjoyed this as much as I. We WILL do more
> of these rides, of that I'm sure.
It was a marvelous time, an enormous amount of fun. Full marks to our
organizer, MontclairBobbyB, who took care of everything.
>
> In the mean time I have set up a Riv Rally East set of pics on Flickr,
> that we will certainly add to.
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/16461051@N04/sets/72157629879604519/
My photos from Day 1 are up on Flickr as well:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/97916047@N00/sets/72157629882288771/show/
I haven't gotten to the pictures from Day 2 yet, but will be adding them
soon.
Jim
cyclot...@gmail.com
Steve Palincsar
> through this weekend virtually untouched by this Nor'Easter that's
> been pounding several states in the East, and in the mean time had a
> fantastic ride from Cumberland, MD up to Ohiopyle, PA along the
> beautiful Great Allegheny Passage Trail.
I've been listening to today's weather reports, hearing about the 4-5
inches of snow at Frostburg today, squealing with delight like a Geico
piggy... Wheeeeee!!!
I've added photos from Day 2 to my set of Riv Rally East 2012 photos
http://www.flickr.com/photos/97916047@N00/sets/72157629882288771/show/
Say, Bobby, do you think we might set up a group pool for everyone's
photos, the way we did with last year's? As many cameras as were in
evidence, I can hardly wait to see what everyone else captured.
Rambouilleting Utahn
ask, how are the milkshakes at Falls Market? Are they still the best
shakes in the East?
All those beautiful bikes look really good overlooking the falls.
Steve Palincsar
> Having lived in Ohiopyle when I was a paddler not a peddler I have to
> ask, how are the milkshakes at Falls Market? Are they still the best
> shakes in the East?
None of us had milkshakes. Many of us got hoagies there, but we were in
a huge hurry to get back to the shuttle site (rafting place over the
bridge), didn't want to miss the ride to Fallingwater, and ate there.
Montclair BobbyB
Speaking of the snow, John Philip sent me an email at 1:30 AM this
morning... he had just arrived home in Syracuse after a long and
grueling day. When he and Tom Nezovich awoke in Rockwood, there was
some 6+ inches of wet, heavy snow on the ground. They slogged through
up to a foot of snow (in places) to the Divide, after which things
started to improve... (like having gravity in their favor, but also
the snow began to thin out). But it was still in the low 30s with
sleet, rain and high winds, mostly from the NW (fortunately at their
backs)...
Wow...Kudos to John and Tom for toughing it out.
MEANWHILE (and sorry I FORGOT to mention), MARC IRWIN CAMPED OUT in
Ohiopyle overnight... I'm looking to hear back from him as to how he
fared... (but then again, he's from Michigan, and an experienced Boy
Scout.. this to him was probably little more than a Spring squall).
Peace,
BB
On Apr 23, 6:53 pm, Steve Palincsar <palin...@his.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 2012-04-23 at 07:21 -0700, Montclair BobbyB wrote:
> > Boy, somebody up there must like us... Somehow we managed to slip
> > through this weekend virtually untouched by this Nor'Easter that's
> > been pounding several states in the East, and in the mean time had a
> > fantastic ride from Cumberland, MD up to Ohiopyle, PA along the
> > beautiful Great Allegheny Passage Trail.
>
> I've been listening to today's weather reports, hearing about the 4-5
> inches of snow at Frostburg today, squealing with delight like a Geico
> piggy... Wheeeeee!!!
>
Allingham II, Thomas J
Done.
Peace,
BB
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We awoke to a slight covering of wet snow and around 34 degrees. Light snow was falling: not too bad. After a great breakfast we left expecting it to be worse when we got higher near the Divide. It did get gradually snowier and windier. The stretch between Meyersdale and Deal to the Divide was very snowey with probably 6 inches of snow on the ground. It was very slow going in the snow: 5 or 6 mph with moderate falling snow but a tail wind. Curiously, when we got through the Big Savage Mountain tunnel there was much less snow on the ground, less falling out of the sky and different winds. The snow soon disappeared, the trail was gravel again and the tail wind returned. Our new problem then was we were cold. The little downgrade allowed us to make 14 to 16 mph on the way back to Cumberland but we were pretty damp from the efforts to reach the tunnel. We made it back to the cars and managed to enjoy it and make it back home the same day.
I had some concerns about ride Hetres in the snow but they were not too bad. The snow riding was slow and level or slightly up hill though. The snow was gone by the time we were zipping downhill.
As Manny says, "Pictures prove it happened", but you will need to wait for John Philip's post because I forgot my camera.
AndyBikeman
LHTrucker rider) feel welcome. I had a wonderful time was so glad to
be bitten by the Riv-Bug. Also thanks to all of the posters with the
great photos. Nice panoramas Steve! I enjoyed meeting and riding with
you all. I look forward to the next time we can all ride together
again.
> > Boy, somebody up there must like us... Somehow we managed to slip
> > through this weekend virtually untouched by this Nor'Easter that's
> > been pounding several states in the East, and in the mean time had a
> > fantastic ride from Cumberland, MD up to Ohiopyle, PA along the
> > beautiful Great Allegheny Passage Trail.
>
> I've been listening to today's weather reports, hearing about the 4-5
> inches of snow at Frostburg today, squealing with delight like a Geico
> piggy... Wheeeeee!!!
>
Marc Irwin
Steve Palincsar
> Thanks to Bobby and all the rest of the guys for making me (a borrowed
> LHTrucker rider) feel welcome. I had a wonderful time was so glad to
> be bitten by the Riv-Bug. Also thanks to all of the posters with the
> great photos.
Nice collection. If you haven't seen the Group Pool, I encourage you to
do so. http://www.flickr.com/groups/1923867@N25/pool/show/
> Nice panoramas Steve!
Thanks! Hand held, stitched with Hugin then worked over with Gimp.
Sometimes even 16:9 just doesn't show it the way I see it. Both Hugin &
Gimp are free, too.
> I enjoyed meeting and riding with
> you all. I look forward to the next time we can all ride together
> again.
Absolutely. It was a tremendous amount of fun.
Thomas Nezovich
ascpgh
surroundings, collected riders & bicycles, and particularly Bobby for
the rare January motivation to get the wheels rolling on this great
weekend.
Initial crop of untagged photos:
https://picasaweb.google.com/asc.pgh/RivRallyEast2012?authuser=0&authkey=Gv1sRgCKeJm-Lc1_fzEA&feat=directlink
I rode on, after a long break in Ohiopyle, to meet my shuttle in
Connellsville. Bobby: it is a good bit less than an hour in the rain.
which was amazing as
> usual, and then decided (due to a lack of time and a nasty forecast)
> to get shuttled back to Cumberland from Ohiopyle (instead of riding
> the additional 16 miles to Connellsville and risk getting caught in
> bad weather). It turned out to be a wise choice.
Pittsburgh
Montclair BobbyB
Bobby
On Apr 24, 9:13 pm, ascpgh <asc....@gmail.com> wrote:
> Reinterations for all praise deserved for the whole event,
> surroundings, collected riders & bicycles, and particularly Bobby for
> the rare January motivation to get the wheels rolling on this great
> weekend.
>
> Initial crop of untagged photos:
>
Steve Palincsar
took and said would be posted on Facebook?
Montclair BobbyB
ascpgh
wilderness last weekend.
I'm feeling like I need more clearance for bigger tires, more braze-
ons, a kick stand plate, and a generator hub/light set up. The
symptoms of my illness seems to have come back after ten years
remission.
ANDY
Pittsburgh
Steve Palincsar
8=)
ascpgh
Steve:
I am a Riv-aholic.
At first it was a numbered Bridgestone here and there, then there was
a Rambouillet... Now the issues swirl; wide range double 110 BCD vs
triple, generator hubs/logs vs battery units, rack/bag combos, bars,
etc.
I'm going to have to make some steady progress on the house renovation
to reach the level of rationalization this may require.
ANDY
Pittsburgh
Steve Palincsar
> Steve:
>
> I am a Riv-aholic.
First Step, right?
> At first it was a numbered Bridgestone here and there, then there was
> a Rambouillet... Now the issues swirl; wide range double 110 BCD vs
> triple, generator hubs/logs vs battery units, rack/bag combos, bars,
> etc.
>
> I'm going to have to make some steady progress on the house renovation
> to reach the level of rationalization this may require.
list.
Allingham II, Thomas J
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Montclair BobbyB
Fortunately there IS help... We have a support group, called the RBW
Owners Forum... where those with similar addictions support each other
(or at least fuel these addictions with photos, stories, items for
sale, and always pointing out the latest and greatest stuff available
from RBW)...
Lean on us, brother... together we'll take this one pedal-stroke at a
time.
Peace,
BB
On Apr 26, 11:02 am, "Allingham II, Thomas J"
> Resistance is futile.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 7:44 AM
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> I think I caught something after being out in all the cold and in the wilderness last weekend.
>
> I'm feeling like I need more clearance for bigger tires, more braze- ons, a kick stand plate, and a generator hub/light set up. The symptoms of my illness seems to have come back after ten years remission.
>
> ANDY
> Pittsburgh
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Ablejack
Beautiful photos and bikes along the best trail I've ever ridden. Also I really hate the idea of a Riv Rally.
RJM
On Friday, April 27, 2012 12:17:56 PM UTC-5, Ablejack wrote:
Steve Palincsar
> Beautiful photos and bikes along the best trail I've ever
> ridden. Also I really hate the idea of a Riv Rally.
it has been a great pleasure to meet them in real life and ride with
them. This year's and last year's rallies were tremendous fun and I'm
very glad I attended both.
> Good thing there was a Kogswell and Surly (both fine bikes) with you
> to dilute the pretension.
-- but if you think the folks attending were poseurs and pretenders then
all I can say is you have some very wrong ideas about us. In fact, come
down to it, if you feel that way, why are you here?
Michael Hechmer
Ablejack
Steve Palincsar
> I guess I simply prefer a more egalitarian theme for a ride. Inclusive
> rather than exclusive that's all.
Rivendells, a Trek and a Gunnar. This year in addition to several
Rivendells there were a Surly and a Kogswell. Any "exclusivity" is
strictly in your perception, not in reality.
> I just didn't like the idea that on a "Riv Rally" someone might feel
> having a fancy bike is necessary to come along with the group.
have ever been posted, except for the obvious needs that if you're going
to be riding on gravel you need a bike suitable for doing so, and if
you're going to be carrying gear for an overnight you need a bike
suitable for that.
> I suppose "pretension" was the wrong way to put it. Truly sorry.
> /Still, gorgeous bikes all, and perhaps the best trail in America.
and especially about the towns it goes through. The Greenbrier River
Trail in West Virginia is similar, although not nearly as long and the
top 1/2 inch of surface is a lot looser, but there are few towns along
the way; and the one I stayed at (famous for the "Roadkill Cookoff") is
sorely deficient in terms of food compared to the likes of Confluence,
which has both top notch pizza and the justly famous Three Sisters.
robert zeidler
Minh
ascpgh
dressed and outfitted alike for a club ride on a Tuesday evening;
carbon fiber this or that, twelve spoke wheels, alien-looking
cranksets, garish graphics and matching team kit Lycra.
Funny how a make developed from utility and the material of choice
being one least destructive to the environment and beneficial in
qualities in use would be accused of being the opposite of
egalitarian. Reminds me of the writer wondering about all the carbon
fiber bikes in Manhattan. I am amused that my bike, held together with
brazed lugs and with the vertical tubes a different color than the
others equates pretense. In the face of all of the aerospace
technology CF rigs sporting garish graphics and component sets more
expensive than my first three cars I don't see it that way.
But what do I know is that I was there, carried all my needs for a
couple days on my bike with temps between 81 and 32, sunny skies to
overcast and rain. Pretense to be prepared? That wasn't my first bike
ride and all I came with was a product of past, or egalitarian
experiences. But then that collected experience gives me the knowledge
and respect not to walk into a biker bar and berate Harley Davidsons
for being playtoys of the affluent. An opinion which discretion ought
to curb one from voicing, no matter what you chose to ride in on,
until you are not likely to offend the collected group who share a
different one.
ANDY
Pittsburgh
Bruce Herbitter
And Minh, compared to crabon plastique bikes by many paceline weekend riders, riv and riv style build bikes are much less expensive. Compare a Sam to a Madone or Dogma for instance.
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Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Riv Rally East Miraculously Escapes Weather Debacle!
I will give you the benefit of the doubt that there was nothing implied, but i think you're reading into the title too much. This is a Rivendell Owners Group, but there is no requirement that you have to own or ride a Rivendell. In the same way it was a Riv Rally because we organized it through the list, but never at any point did anyone say you needed to have a Riv to ride. We could have called it the GAP 12 ride, but that doesn't capture how we all met--which is through the Riv owners group.As Steve points out, by nature of the ride Rivs were the natural type of bike, but other bikes showed up, and the over-riding commonality was that they were all built up in a similiar way (because the route/nature of the ride required that), but no-one said anything about the non-riv bikes. In fact i found it interesting to see a Surly built up or a Kogswell (which are not made anymore so it's rare for me to see one). After the first 20 minutes of ogling and looking over the bikes i think everyone just rode and focused on getting to know everyone. The bikes just 'broke the ice' for all of us to meet.--
On Saturday, April 28, 2012 1:45:22 AM UTC-4, Ablejack wrote:I guess I simply prefer a more egalitarian theme for a ride. Inclusive rather than exclusive that's all.I don't think anything negative about the folks and certainly did not mean to insinuate that.There are about ten Riv owners in my club and sometimes it's all Rivs on a ride. No problem, ride whatever you want.I just didn't like the idea that on a "Riv Rally" someone might feel having a fancy bike is necessary to come along with the group.I suppose "pretension" was the wrong way to put it. Truly sorry./Still, gorgeous bikes all, and perhaps the best trail in America.
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Philip Williamson
I won't apologize for making auto connections in a bike forum, since I think it's a valid comparison. We are into something that's outside the mainstream, and we have every right to celebrate it and enjoy it, come together and share it.
I got great vicarious pleasure out of both the past Riv Rallies, and hope they continue.
Philip
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Steve Palincsar
> I think the Riv Rally is a fantastic idea, and I'm amazed at Bobby's ability to bring an idea like that to fruition. I associate it in my mind with classic auto rallies, like the Austin Healey rally that came through my town a few years ago, or the dozens of MGs I saw on my drive down the East side of the Sierras last Summer. As an outsider, I thought that was cool. I talked to one guy on the AH rally who was driving something else, but he came out to see his friends and the countryside. I used to be into hearses, and the Professional Car Socieuses would put on rallies and meets. I didn't consider it pretentious - it was a way to meet people you only knew online, check out their amazing stuff, and do something together.
Marc Irwin
I had a great time, thought Bobby did an amazing job putting this together, will be at the next one and don't see anything pretentious or exclusive about wanting to meet like minded people to hang out for a weekend!
Montclair BobbyB
Rally will always be Riv Rally (I promise), and it will remain open TO
ALL who embrace the Riv philosophy, REGARDLESS of whether you own a
Riv or some other bike. In fact, at the next rally I plan to ride
either my '85 Stumpy, my 86 Cimarron or my 80-something Mongoose. I'm
lucky to own some pretty awesome Non-RIV bikes, but I CAN tell you
(with no hesitation) that RBW has had a profound impact on how I built
up these bikes as well as fueling my passion for the bicycling
lifestyle, in general. I suspect this is probably true of many Riv
owners.
I'm proud to be a Rivendell Owner, not just for owning and riding one
of their extraordinary bicycles, but also for embracing the Rivendell
philosophy of supporting all that is good and worthwhile in
bicycling.
Peace,
Bobby
ascpgh
Also for the commonality which can come from mutual appreciation of
cycling that Rivendell promotes among individuals.
> I'm proud to be a Rivendell Owner, not just for owning and riding one
> of their extraordinary bicycles, but also for embracing the Rivendell
> philosophy of supporting all that is good and worthwhile in bicycling.
"great pumpkin" (but not a replacement) lead me to seek input on 650b
wheel size benefits, they look like you can ride a wider tire with
less angular acceleration burdens than a 700c/29er. Looking over the
650b Kogswell and Atlantis on RRE '12 planted that seed. An e-mail
with Grant following several days of reading cleared this up by me
opinion; it answers no problems for me. Any frame I fit can be chosen
for clearance to run as wide a tire as I deem necessary.
That certainly clears the field somewhat.
ANDY
Pittsburgh
Allingham II, Thomas J
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Peter Pesce
Great job Bobby (and all the other riv-ish ride planners elsewhere)!
-Pete
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