Twin legged kickstand

[dave brown]

I have the single leg stand on my Hunqapillar. Are there any
negatives of the twin legged stand? I park my bike by my cars in the
garage and was looking for more stability.

[eflayer]

i used them on my long wheel base recumbent and they were great. i like em with little those little placstic foots affixed at the bottom of the legs. two legs, more weight, but just great.

[PATRICK MOORE]

One problem with them is that they don't support heavy, lopsided
loads; I found a cheap Greenfield rear-dropout kickstand worked better
for off-center, heavy rear loads.

(A trike is even better.)

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[René Sterental]

Depending on the tires your have, the double kickstand may rub them when you're riding. I couldn't fit it on my Hunqapillar with 60mm Big Apples and on my Atlantis, they barely clear the 50mm supremes. They are fine with the 50s, but I ended up removing the rubber tips as they'd force the legs a bit inwards unless I pulled them out manually. This is mainly due to the fact that I trimmed them so they wouldn't be that long and raise the rear wheel so much.

The other side effect you'll have to manage is that with any bag on the front, the wheel will tend to flop to one side or the other, going all the way past 90 degrees to the frame so your purpose might be defeated in the garage or you'll have to ensure there is something preventing the wheel from flopping and keeping it aligned with the frame.

Aside from these issues, I like the double kickstand.

Rene

[Rex Kerr]

I have one (Pleischer) on my Trek 520.  I had to grind the bottom plate to clear the rder cables, and it still rubs, though I clean and grease it now and then and it hasn't caused any problems.  It doesn't mount well w/o a kickstand plate (needs their deluxe top plate), but that shouldn't be a problem with any fairly new Riv bike.    Overall it's a big plus.  I've put far too much sideways momentum into the bike while parked in the garage w/o knocking it over, so I'm happy.

[Thomas Lynn Skean]

Agree completely. And note that having a double kickstand can make maintenance more straightforward. I can't spin pedals past the down kickstand. But I can remove either wheel, as long as the fork is restrained from flopping.

With front wheel in place, I use the PDW leather/velcro pant-leg restraint sort of like reins to lash the wheel to the downtube to prevent flop. It won't hold against off-balance fully-loaded panniers. But ~10 pounds doesn't pose a problem.

Yours,
Thomas Lynn Skean

[Marc Irwin]

I rwally like the double legged stand for my Hunq, but the kickstand
plate broke. I think it was a combination of several hundred miles of
fully loaded touring and I didn't trim the legs enough. Riv was happy
to replace it,even offered to reinstall and repaint,but I tookcare of
that locally. I've had no clearance problems, even with Schwalbe
Alberts. The double stand is great now that it's cut down and
remounted.

Marc

On Oct 1, 11:47 pm, René Sterental <orthie...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Depending on the tires your have, the double kickstand may rub them when
> you're riding. I couldn't fit it on my Hunqapillar with 60mm Big Apples and
> on my Atlantis, they barely clear the 50mm supremes. They are fine with the
> 50s, but I ended up removing the rubber tips as they'd force the legs a bit
> inwards unless I pulled them out manually. This is mainly due to the fact
> that I trimmed them so they wouldn't be that long and raise the rear wheel
> so much.
>
> The other side effect you'll have to manage is that with any bag on the
> front, the wheel will tend to flop to one side or the other, going all the
> way past 90 degrees to the frame so your purpose might be defeated in the
> garage or you'll have to ensure there is something preventing the wheel from
> flopping and keeping it aligned with the frame.
>
> Aside from these issues, I like the double kickstand.
>
> Rene
>
>
>
> On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 6:53 PM, PATRICK MOORE <bertin...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > One problem with them is that they don't support heavy, lopsided
> > loads; I found a cheap Greenfield rear-dropout kickstand worked better
> > for off-center, heavy rear loads.
>
> > (A trike is even better.)
>

[Peter Pesce]

I use one on my LHT commutility bike and love it. I cut the legs down so that one wheel is only 1/2" off the ground (it usually sits nose-down when empty, but tail-down with anything on the back. It had it almost perfectly balanced the other day, so it would rock back and forth on its Big Apples for quite a while with a little push, but I digress...). If you are going to cut the legs, be sure you adjust them for the fattest tire you plan to run.
Also, as others have said, the front tire will flop if your bike is tail heavy. I have a big chunky CETMA rack on mine, which exacerbates the problem, so I installed on of those spring stabilizer things.
Also, the bike is more stable on the 2-leg for loading, but it still will not stand up to large asymmetries. A full grocery bag on only one side of the rear rack will tip it over easily, but I can carry my briefcase pannier on only one side without a problem. I'd guess the briefcase is only about 5lbs, where the grocery bag is probably 15lbs.

-Pete